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		<title>By: M Potts</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>M Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to separation of church and state.  Where&#039;s the ACLU when they &#039;re needed? </description>
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		<title>By: rance carpenter</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>rance carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats next - re-write the pledge of allegiance and  dishonor all veterans who served and died for ONE NATION UNDER GOD because they believedI IN GOD WE TRUST..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats next &#8211; re-write the pledge of allegiance and  dishonor all veterans who served and died for ONE NATION UNDER GOD because they believedI IN GOD WE TRUST&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Geary</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Geary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We hav e so many people coming into our Country besides mexicans coming across our borders. Why does our government give green cards to Muslims, and never again check to see if their still here  until the attack us! I feel if  the people of this Country doesn&#039;t change their immoral practices, get down on their knees and  pray God will heal our land. I think it&#039;s a terrible mus-justice for our  people on the left to only inoke God&#039;s name  for their own selfish purpose and that includes illegal immigration, Fear God for He is not mocked. 
                                                   Carol Geary, Pensacola, Fl. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We hav e so many people coming into our Country besides mexicans coming across our borders. Why does our government give green cards to Muslims, and never again check to see if their still here  until the attack us! I feel if  the people of this Country doesn&#039;t change their immoral practices, get down on their knees and  pray God will heal our land. I think it&#039;s a terrible mus-justice for our  people on the left to only inoke God&#039;s name  for their own selfish purpose and that includes illegal immigration, Fear God for He is not mocked.</p>
<p>                                                   Carol Geary, Pensacola, Fl.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I hope this doesn&#039;t appear twice, but it hasn&#039;t shown up.)
The only immigration problem we have is caused by people who enter this country illegally - that includes people from So. Am., Central Am., Europe, the Middle East, potential terrorists, those who want the privileges and benefits this country has to offer, but not the responsibilities. I didn&#039;t separate the families. I didn&#039;t cause their problems, and I am not obliged to solve them. Would they want this country back if everything the Gringos built were destroyed, and the land they got back was as it was in 1845: sand, horned toads, sidewinder rattlesnakes, sagebrush, tumble weeds, and  s Spanish mission every few hundred miles, or do they just want to steal what someone else has worked and sacrificed and died for? What have they done with the land they&#039;ve got called Mexico ?  Look at Maywood, Calif., if you want to see what they would do with America if they had it. Enforce the immigration laws, and the problem will solve itself. Richard Land does not speak for So. Baptists; he has over-reached his authority and assumed that  his position is more influential than it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I hope this doesn&#8217;t appear twice, but it hasn&#8217;t shown up.)<br />
The only immigration problem we have is caused by people who enter this country illegally &#8211; that includes people from So. Am., Central Am., Europe, the Middle East, potential terrorists, those who want the privileges and benefits this country has to offer, but not the responsibilities. I didn&#8217;t separate the families. I didn&#8217;t cause their problems, and I am not obliged to solve them. Would they want this country back if everything the Gringos built were destroyed, and the land they got back was as it was in 1845: sand, horned toads, sidewinder rattlesnakes, sagebrush, tumble weeds, and  s Spanish mission every few hundred miles, or do they just want to steal what someone else has worked and sacrificed and died for? What have they done with the land they&#8217;ve got called Mexico ?  Look at Maywood, Calif., if you want to see what they would do with America if they had it. Enforce the immigration laws, and the problem will solve itself. Richard Land does not speak for So. Baptists; he has over-reached his authority and assumed that  his position is more influential than it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnye Dean</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnye Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegal immigrants are ILLEGAL and have broken our U.S. law by coming here ILLEGALLY.  Many people have done it the right way by obeying our laws and going through the immigration system.  We must stop the stream of illegals at the border before we can do anything about the ones already here. 
Bonnye </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal immigrants are ILLEGAL and have broken our U.S. law by coming here ILLEGALLY.  Many people have done it the right way by obeying our laws and going through the immigration system.  We must stop the stream of illegals at the border before we can do anything about the ones already here.</p>
<p>Bonnye</p>
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		<title>By: Katt</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Holy Bible specifically states that we were NEVER to allow those who worship foreign gods behind our gates !  It does NOT support DIVERSITY of breeds either.  IT STATES FOR YOU TO STAY WITH YOUR OWN KIND/BREED OF HUMAN !  That is a SPECIFIC reason the WHITE forefathers conquered this nation and called it America !   DIVERSITY DESTROYS NATIONS AND BREEDS OF HUMANS ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Holy Bible specifically states that we were NEVER to allow those who worship foreign gods behind our gates !  It does NOT support DIVERSITY of breeds either.  IT STATES FOR YOU TO STAY WITH YOUR OWN KIND/BREED OF HUMAN !  That is a SPECIFIC reason the WHITE forefathers conquered this nation and called it America !   DIVERSITY DESTROYS NATIONS AND BREEDS OF HUMANS !</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie R.</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  feel  if  God  is  not  welcome  in  Washington  DC.   any  other  time  ,  then  his name  should not  be brought up  now,   They  set  up  there  on  the hill  and  deny  GOD   then  try  to  push  him  with  their  own  evil,that  is  wrong   They  took  God  out  of the school,s  and  court  rooms ,  deny  him  and then  call on  him,  God  said  is  you  deny my  Son  I  will  deny  you  at the Judgement,  Obama  only  want,s  what  he  want,s,  nothing  for  America  or it,s people,and the news  media  run,s around  and  hide,s  what  Obama  has done  like  a kid  lie,s  to  stay  out  of  trouble,  they  are no better  than  Obama,,if  we  the  people stand  and bid  him  God,s  speed  we  are  no  better  than  him,,we  have  the power  to  put  him  out  of  office 
and all  the dumbbama,s  on  the  hill  with  him,  if  we  do  not  do  it  we  have  no  one to blame  but ourself,s,,,and believe  me  another  3 year,s 
and we will be  under  Obam,s rule  in  religion,,banking, housing,,church,s,,,,,,he  will  ber  a king on his  thrown  and  America  will be  no  more 
so  it,s  our  call  to  eat  it or spit it  out,,and he  has  left  a real  bad  taste  in  my  mouth, </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  feel  if  God  is  not  welcome  in  Washington  DC.   any  other  time  ,  then  his name  should not  be brought up  now,   They  set  up  there  on  the hill  and  deny  GOD   then  try  to  push  him  with  their  own  evil,that  is  wrong   They  took  God  out  of the school,s  and  court  rooms ,  deny  him  and then  call on  him,  God  said  is  you  deny my  Son  I  will  deny  you  at the Judgement,  Obama  only  want,s  what  he  want,s,  nothing  for  America  or it,s people,and the news  media  run,s around  and  hide,s  what  Obama  has done  like  a kid  lie,s  to  stay  out  of  trouble,  they  are no better  than  Obama,,if  we  the  people stand  and bid  him  God,s  speed  we  are  no  better  than  him,,we  have  the power  to  put  him  out  of  office</p>
<p>and all  the dumbbama,s  on  the  hill  with  him,  if  we  do  not  do  it  we  have  no  one to blame  but ourself,s,,,and believe  me  another  3 year,s</p>
<p>and we will be  under  Obam,s rule  in  religion,,banking, housing,,church,s,,,,,,he  will  ber  a king on his  thrown  and  America  will be  no  more</p>
<p>so  it,s  our  call  to  eat  it or spit it  out,,and he  has  left  a real  bad  taste  in  my  mouth,</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this useless yapping about illegal aliens can be solved by a new law; Let mexican families sign up IN MEXICO for a TRADE  with Progressive socialists, black panthers, Obamazombies, and others who hate America, and are willing to immigrate to Mexico, and we will have PEACEFUL, legal immigration. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this useless yapping about illegal aliens can be solved by a new law; Let mexican families sign up IN MEXICO for a TRADE  with Progressive socialists, black panthers, Obamazombies, and others who hate America, and are willing to immigrate to Mexico, and we will have PEACEFUL, legal immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2010/07/20/congress-debates-biblical-stance-on-immigration/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: &quot;What does the Bible say about illegal immigration?&quot; 
 
Answer: Romans 13:1-7 makes it abundantly clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception to this is when a law of the government forces you to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29). Illegal immigration is the breaking of a governmental law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts a nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is a sin, rebellion against God, to illegally enter into another country. 
 
Illegal immigration is definitely a controversial issue in the United States (and some other countries) today. Some argue that the immigration laws are unfair, unjust, and even discriminatory -- giving individuals justification to immigrate illegally. However, Romans 13:1-7 does not give any permission to violate a law just because it is unjust. Again, the issue is not the fairness of a law. The only biblical reason to violate a governmental law is if that law violates God&#039;s Word. When Paul wrote the Book of Romans, he was under the authority of the Roman Empire, led by perhaps the most evil of all the Roman emperors, Nero. Under that reign, there were many laws that were unfair, unjust, and/or blatantly evil. Still, Paul instructed Christians to submit to the government. 
 
Are the immigration laws of the United States unfair or unjust? Some think so, but that is not the issue. All developed countries in the world have immigration laws, some more strict that the USA and some less strict than the USA. There is nothing in the Bible to prohibit a country from having completely open borders, or to have completely closed borders. Romans 13:1-7 also gives the government the authority to punish lawbreakers. Whether the punishment is imprisonment and/or deportation, or even something more severe, it is within the rights of the government to determine. 
 
The vast majority of illegal immigrants in the United States have come for the purpose of having a better life, providing for their families, and escaping from poverty. These are good goals and motivations. However, it is not biblical to violate a law to achieve something &quot;good.&quot; Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do (Galatians 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2-15). However, the biblical fact that we are to care for the misfortunate does not mean we should violate the law in doing so. Supporting, enabling, and/or encouraging illegal immigration is, therefore, also a violation of God&#039;s Word. Those seeking to immigrate to another country should always obey the immigration laws of that country. While this may cause delays and frustrations, these reasons do not give a person the right to violate a law. 
 
What is the biblical solution to illegal immigration? Simple...don&#039;t do it; obey the laws. If disobedience is not a biblical option, what can be done in regards to an unjust immgration law? It is completely within the rights of citizens to seek to change immigration laws. If it is your conviction that an immigration law is unjust, do everything that is legally within your power to get the law changed: pray, petition, vote, peacefully protest, etc. As Christians, we should be the first to seek to change any law that is unjust. At the same time, we are also to demonstrate our submission to God by obeying the government He has placed in authority over us. 
 
&quot;Be subject for the Lord&#8217;s sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God&quot; (1 Peter 2:13&#8211;16). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: &quot;What does the Bible say about illegal immigration?&quot;</p>
<p>Answer: Romans 13:1-7 makes it abundantly clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception to this is when a law of the government forces you to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29). Illegal immigration is the breaking of a governmental law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts a nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is a sin, rebellion against God, to illegally enter into another country.</p>
<p>Illegal immigration is definitely a controversial issue in the United States (and some other countries) today. Some argue that the immigration laws are unfair, unjust, and even discriminatory &#8212; giving individuals justification to immigrate illegally. However, Romans 13:1-7 does not give any permission to violate a law just because it is unjust. Again, the issue is not the fairness of a law. The only biblical reason to violate a governmental law is if that law violates God&#039;s Word. When Paul wrote the Book of Romans, he was under the authority of the Roman Empire, led by perhaps the most evil of all the Roman emperors, Nero. Under that reign, there were many laws that were unfair, unjust, and/or blatantly evil. Still, Paul instructed Christians to submit to the government.</p>
<p>Are the immigration laws of the United States unfair or unjust? Some think so, but that is not the issue. All developed countries in the world have immigration laws, some more strict that the USA and some less strict than the USA. There is nothing in the Bible to prohibit a country from having completely open borders, or to have completely closed borders. Romans 13:1-7 also gives the government the authority to punish lawbreakers. Whether the punishment is imprisonment and/or deportation, or even something more severe, it is within the rights of the government to determine.</p>
<p>The vast majority of illegal immigrants in the United States have come for the purpose of having a better life, providing for their families, and escaping from poverty. These are good goals and motivations. However, it is not biblical to violate a law to achieve something &quot;good.&quot; Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do (Galatians 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2-15). However, the biblical fact that we are to care for the misfortunate does not mean we should violate the law in doing so. Supporting, enabling, and/or encouraging illegal immigration is, therefore, also a violation of God&#039;s Word. Those seeking to immigrate to another country should always obey the immigration laws of that country. While this may cause delays and frustrations, these reasons do not give a person the right to violate a law.</p>
<p>What is the biblical solution to illegal immigration? Simple&#8230;don&#039;t do it; obey the laws. If disobedience is not a biblical option, what can be done in regards to an unjust immgration law? It is completely within the rights of citizens to seek to change immigration laws. If it is your conviction that an immigration law is unjust, do everything that is legally within your power to get the law changed: pray, petition, vote, peacefully protest, etc. As Christians, we should be the first to seek to change any law that is unjust. At the same time, we are also to demonstrate our submission to God by obeying the government He has placed in authority over us.</p>
<p>&quot;Be subject for the Lord&rsquo;s sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God&quot; (1 Peter 2:13&ndash;16).</p>
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		<title>By: S in Az</title>
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		<dc:creator>S in Az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with seallilly.  They throw GOD out of everything in our Govt, schools, etc. Then they all of a sudden decide they will invoke the Bible to find a solution or reason there, to do what they are wanting to do and say it is per the Bible.  What a bunch of near do wells.  They really make me sick.The whole bunch.  We need to remember every single episode come November and show them the road. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with seallilly.  They throw GOD out of everything in our Govt, schools, etc. Then they all of a sudden decide they will invoke the Bible to find a solution or reason there, to do what they are wanting to do and say it is per the Bible.  What a bunch of near do wells.  They really make me sick.The whole bunch.  We need to remember every single episode come November and show them the road.</p>
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