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The Failure of Communism in Pilgrim Plymouth

In grade school, we’re taught that the story of the First Thanksgiving illustrates the importance of teamwork and charity. That’s true, so far as it goes. But on this Thanksgiving Day, it’s worth pondering the other moral of the holiday of thanks: capitalism works.

In March of 1621, an American Indian named Samoset — who had learned English by interacting with other colonists — reportedly walked into the settlement and proclaimed, “Welcome, Englishmen!” Shortly thereafter, the settlers established a formal peace treaty with a delegation from the Wampanoag tribe. Delegates included Squanto, who had learned English as a slave in Europe — and who, as spring came to New England, showed the Pilgrims how to catch eel, grow corn, and otherwise procure food.

But what is often left out of the popular account is that one reason the Pilgrims were in such peril during these first few seasons was that they were trying communal farming: During the first two and a half years, there was neither private property nor division of labor at the Plymouth Colony. No one was permitted to own any particular plot of land. Food was grown collectively and distributed equally.

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32 Responses

  1. Guess Ole barry and his Socialist Cronies don;t know their HISTORY!! The INCOMPETENT MORON is doing the same to the US and DAILY Destroying it! IMPEACH NOW!!

    -jim
  2. Thank you for this information concerning the first thanksgiving and the problems they encountered, everyone should should be made aware of the problems that communism, socialism and welfare creates which indeed takes away our initiative and our desire to work and be creative.

    -David Manning
  3. That is a good thought to keep in mind on this Thanksgiving Day. Sharing the wealth did not work for the Pilgrims at Plymouth.
    , what in the world would make you think that type of philosophy would work today?

    -Dale
    • Hey clueless – the Indian SHARED. Even after the so called "Christians" killed hundreds of his countrymen.

      The military is a socialist enterprise as is the Internet. You people are clueless.

      -Chris P
      • Sorry, Chris, but no Indians had been killed yet in Plymouth. And Americans did not start seriously killing Indians except in self defense until after the French taught the Indians terrorist tactics in the French and Indian War. And the internet is not Socialist. It was invented by capitalist and is paid for by advertising and other capitalist activities. Actually communist ideas failed in both the first English colonies, Jamestown being the first. Both were probably inspired by Thomas More's book, Utopia, which predicated a communist state.

        The problem with most people's ideas of American history is that they learned them in a 'government' school whose basic intention was to train folks for factory jobs as imagined by the first 'progressives' such as the education theorist, Dewey. The men who wrote the American Constitution learned to read and write at their mother's knee and read the classics of Western Civilization with their pastors who were generally also school masters. The government propoganda and indoctrination center had yet to be invented. And sorry the day that it was!

        -Lee Poteet
      • I realize truth does not always fit into the liberal agenda but most freedom loving adults and conservative young people know the true and many others are learning after seeing the BS from OWS so the don't fly as far as it use to.

        You better go back to preaching to your PC crowd. And we all know Al Gore started the internet when he discovered man made global warming and needed a way to reach his audience but who really cares who started the internet it would not be nearly so relevant without capitalism.

        -Not So PC From Texas
  4. Communism/socialism is based in the atheism of Marx and the Jacobin murderers of the French "Revolution"; it is, therefore, evil from its very inception. These systems are based on the lie that all humans are basically good and productive, a belief that is niave at best, moronic a worst and has been proven time and time again to be false. Communism/socialism are really nothing more than systems that create two groups of parasites – the slothful who parasitize the productive and the greedy, elist, megalomaniacs who always end up running things and who also parasitize the productive using the slothful as their power base. We can see this in the democrat party – the loyal democrats are the slothful – union drones, government employees, welfare cheats; those who votes keep the money-hungry elitists like maobama, pelosi, gore, and the rest of the greedy, power-hungry democrat aristocracy in power. The pursuit of collectivism will eventually sink the West and will either ring in another dark age or will doom the West to domination by those nations such as China that are wise enough to be abandoning collectivism.

    -Bobseeks
  5. I just love how modern-day liberals are so desperate to promote their Communist ideals that they would accuse the rest of us of being revisionists, while THEY are the ones who are doing the revising. Their desperate attempts are laughable and entertaining. :)

    -Linda F.
    • I'm not advocating for communism – that's just a made up slam by you clowns. Basically lying about other people's goals.

      Christians lie a lot.

      -Chris P
      • “Libertariansim is based on the lie that all people are basically good and productive.”

        So, you hate conservatives, you think libertarians are suckers and and you don’t advocate for communism. Chris just what the hell do you believe? What is your end goal or hope?

        -Dntmkmecmoverther
      • He craves attention so he posts those outrageous comments, ignore the foolish athiest.

        -Kalev
      • So you made up lies to slam Christians because we lie. And was that a lie to hide your ignorance, either way it shows who and what you really are at heart.

        The end does not justify the means and your agenda is pretty diluted to say the least. What is your purpose and justification for being a liar?

        And you would be the clown in comments above from a common sense point of view. If would be laughable except for the fact that your mentors know the truth and are using people like you and others that have little factual understanding in depth of what all this means for them.

        -Not So PC From Texas
  6. And again, a "smarter-than-the-rest-of-us" lib accuses the conservatives of revisionist history, when the conservative account is supported by first-hand, eye-witness accounts, while the lib ignores the hard data because it doesn't say what she wants.

    -Siu Lam
  7. Communism is based in the atheist beliefs of marx and is, therefore, evil from its very inception. It is based on the lie that all people are basically good and productive – beliefs that are proven to be false every minute of every day. Communism is embraced by two groups of parasites: The slothful, who parasitize the productive, and the greedy, power-hungry elitists who use the slothful to gain power and who then also parasitize the productive. We see this at work in the USA; the slothful (union members, welfare cheats, government employees) parasitize the productive and, in turn, vote for the greedy elitists of the democrat party who then use the power of government to reward the slothful and to parasitize the productive through taxation. Eventually, the West will fall because the collectivists control the mis-education system and the media, guaranteeing that the young will be indoctrinated with collectivist "ideals". This will doom the West to anarchy and poverty or, perhaps, domination by other nations. If we do not stop the collectivists in the next, and subsequent, elections, we deserve to fall.

    -Bobseeks
    • Libertariansim is based on the lie that all people are basically good and productive. Atheism has nothing to do with it.

      -Chris P
      • Libertarian people believe in individual responsibility. Liberals believe in gov run everything. Libertarians are not Liberals.

        -Dandy
  8. To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, "Socialism fails when you run out of other people's money." Another expression comes from The Gondoliers, by Gilbert and Sullivan, "When everyone is somebody then no one's anybody." That is why socialism must be run by a dictator! And Obama is trying his best to get himself into that position. No, he's not a moron, he's an evil, sly and shifty self promoter with absolutely no scruples!

    -A. Reginald
    • Like Thatcher was good for England.

      -Chris P
      • Yes, Chris, Thatcher was good for England. A whale of a lot better than the socialist who preceeded and the one who followed her. From what I read in your posts you are an historical ignoramus!

        -A. Reginald
  9. William Bradford the Govennor of the time abolished the communal way of living and instead gave individual plots of land and had them farm seperately.Claiming you dont work you dont eat.They soon began to prosper and on August 9th had a day of thanksgiving to celebrate.Thats right.Thanksgiving was on August 9th not Nov 26th.The communal way of thinking and living didnt work then and it wont work now.May you all give thanks this day for what GOD(YAHWEH) has given you and us as a nation

    -Dennis
  10. Exaggeration seems to be a popular sport of Republicans. Completely omitting any discussion that these people killed vast numbers of American Indians.

    Obama is not a communist or advocating anything like that – This is just a bunch of nasty right wing people playing to the gullible. This same story is on other sites.

    It's total BS – but then you guys like that.

    -Chris P
    • Isn't it strange that every now and then when someone happens to try to relate factual information to people, there are those that immediately jump up and attempt to defend any referrence to the dumbest disgrace that has ever happened to the United States of America in the form of a president……Can't anyone realize he is a Muslim and read just a few chapters of the koran and see what the part they have decided to follow —-world domination…..WAKE UP…His ideas and demonstration thereof are to destroy this country ASAP, and prepare it for muslim/Islam domination.

      -Ed37
    • Republicans killed Indians??? Regarding Obama he is/was a card carrying communist.

      -Dandy
  11. The most ludricrous thing in this story is that of a socialist complaining of rewriting history , which the socialists and communists , (read progressives ) , have rewritten so much of American history that you can't distinguish it from the history of the USSR . I personally believe the last real member of the democratic party died in 1970 and the progressives took over with no one becoming aware of the change .

    -buck
  12. This rendition of how Pilgrim's live is yet another figment of imagination. In the first place, early settlers had no conception of 'communism,' which is something more akin to modern man (and modern man begins in the 19th century, not yesterday) and his notion of what is considered for the 'good of the group.' There were simply too few men to adequately farm the crops; many of the Pilgrims were already ill when they landed. What the Pilgrims did was to betray those who helped them by disenfranchising the Natives and then murdering them or enslaving them. As for the communal life-style, that was already in place in many areas of Europe where these folks came from, so this was nothing new to them. Since everyone was expected to contribute towards their survival, it made sense to remind the settlers that if you don't work you don't eat. What some writers need to learn is to study early colonialism as it really was and quit imposing modernistic views and lifestyles upon them. If a Pilgrim from the 1600s were to return and you accused them of living as communists, they would view you as rather stupid.

    -CJM
    • They profess to be wise but are fools. Its not the name its a the definition of what they were doing and like King Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun. To few men to adequately farm the crops, really how did you come up with this considering throughout the history people have supplied plenty of food for there families.

      Instead of telling other writers what they need to do maybe you should drop your agenda and stick to the facts. You sir are a l— well what do you call some some that does not tell the truth, when you blame the pilgrims in general for what others probably liberals inflicted on natives and others in early america.

      -Not So PC From Texas
  13. Why talk about politics/parties etc. knowing there are differences in ideologies when each side wants to WIN? How do we expect to ever have "peace" on earth if human beings can't even agree on past history let alone the present? Who really cares? "Not so PC from Texas" just said it to ALL ….Quote (Solomon) THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN! So – enjoy the life God gave us for HE ONLY knows TRUTH! Quit trying to explain truth of men or call them liars …

    -eva
    • Yea let us just embraced mother earth agree that there is no possible way to know the truth. Disregard perspicuity of the Scriptures and sing ecumenicistic kumbaya and even perhaps call ourselves Wicca… Sure.

      -Despeville
      • SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST SILLY – YOU LIKE TO JUMP FROM ONE SUBJECT TO ANOTHER? NO SENSE OF HUMOR OR COMMON SENSE? mOTHER eARTH I CALLED CREATION – GOD'S CREATION – SO QUIT IT …WITH FANCY WORDS WITHOUT MEANING!

        -eva
  14. you`ll have your turn one day with the eyewalldo`s…just wate…..it want be as funny as you think….

    -walldo
  15. Thank you for sharing the story that was never taught in my history books.

    -@Deepizzaguy
  16. Too funny – communal living at its most fundamental – a great lesson on so many levels that still resonates today.

    -Gringo Infidel

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