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Pat

everyday I think it cannot get any worse but each day something new & stupider comes up. governent & PC run amok & we the people must stop it or kiss our butts good bye if it is not already too late

Katie2011

USAF is government sponsored. This is government sponsoring paganism. This puts all of us in DEEP Doo Doo.
Eternal Damnation. We must ALL pray for revival of Christianity in this Country. We must ALL repent for our Country and do all we possibly can to stop this insanity.
Call your Representatives in Washington and DEMAND changes.

Ted

Disgusting

daves

Why?

Do you oppose the freedom to worship guaranteed in our Constitution.
- Linda F.
  
  It's disgusting because, first of all, paganism is an abomination in the eyes of God. So obviously, the people of God are disgusted by it. (Or, at the very least, we SHOULD be.)
  
  Second of all: it wasn't that long ago that the Air Force Academy caved into the demands of Mikey Weinstein (of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation) to stop promoting Operation Christmas Child, a program designed to send holiday gifts to impoverished children around the world. Why did "Whiney" Weinstein complain? Because Operation Christmas Child is a Christian charity.
  
  So apparently, it's perfectly fine for the Air Force Academy to openly endorse paganism. But can it endorse a Christian charity that provides Christmas gifts to needy children? Oh, no! Nope. That's out of the question, according to "Whiney" Weinstein and the people who agree with him.
  
  And people wonder why we Christians believe that there is a level of Christian persecution in the United States? Hmm … Let's think about that one. Shall we?!
- heath3435
  
  Yes It is Dave, The First amendment, Freedom of Speech and freedom of religion.
  No where it say freedom from.
  - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
    
    As usual, you fail to read or comprehend anything. daves asked if they opposed the freedom to worship. That is the freedom of religion.
    - heath3435
      
      Again Jeff your twisting, And starting something.
      
      op·pose
      [uh-pohz] Show IPA verb, -posed, -pos·ing.
      
      verb (used with object)
      1. to act against or provide resistance to; combat.
      2. to stand in the way of; hinder; obstruct.
      3. to set as an opponent or adversary.
      4. to be hostile or adverse to, as in opinion: to oppose a resolution in a debate.
      5. to set as an obstacle or hindrance
      
      Just was answering a question Jeff with the truth, unlike you that twist and trun from the truth and insert Lies.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      daves agrees with the concept of freedom of religion. You truly are completely clueless.
    - heath3435
      
      No Jeff You are the one who is clue less, You are for freedom from religion, I am for freedom of religion.
      Your the one Jeff who opposed to faith of something GREATER than you.
      
      I was Just clearify what Daves question is, So many people twist words like you Jeff to make your opinion of lies sound Good.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      Freedom of religion and freedom from religion are two sides of the same coin. If there was a national religion of Catholicism, Mormonism or Islam, you would be wanting to be free from having to follow that religion.
      
      Given how many times I have had to correct your inability to express yourself correctly, it is humorous to hear you say you were trying to clarify anything.
    - heath3435
      
      Jeff again the ability to express myself is with Facts, NOT OPINIONS!! Like yourself you express your opinion by ywisting the truth or Lie.
      
      Like the twist you just commented about. Never said anything against other religion other than about my faith. Freedom from or Of is NOT the same coin, That where your SO VERY WRONG!!

Thomas Stevens

Are these people really that stupid.No wonder our country is in the shape it is.Yes Major Duncan,your setting a standard
alright,a,I don't have a brain in my head standard

http://aol.com Ed from Florida

Satan's way of desensitizing moral people to his religion to come. Satan's one world religion that people are already talking about. This is the reason that we are seeing an all out attack on Christianity world wide. US Government entities are all participating in these attacks while promoting alternatives to Christianity. Evil is every where in the world today in this is just the tip of the iceberg. It will get much worse.

george

Amen .. agreed . # And why didn't I have the opportunity to vote .. FOR … Or .. AGAINST … this misuse of tax money? …… Fairness, Fairness, Fairness …… Waste, Waste, Waste …..
Sherry from TN

Ed I think you are 100% correct! We ARE being desensitized! And sad to say lots of good moral Christian people are fallling right into his trap!! Politically correctness is disgusting! What abour Christians beliefs and rights? After all Christianity is what this country was founded upon! No wonder we are in such o mess wiht all these other religiions being glorified! One day every knee will bow and declare that Jesus IS Lord!!!
- Rita in MT
  
  Prayer is more powerful than anything that Satan could do. The awesome power that God has! His love is far beyond our understanding. We have been conditioned for many generations now to be lukewarm Christians. I am alarmed at how many of my christian friends thinks Harry Potter books and movies are cute and harmless. That was the very motive for producing Harry Potter. Witchcraft has taken a foothold. But when our hearts cry out to the Lord, he will answer and send the Holy Spirit to convict and bring us back to purity, holiness and righteousness.

Mike Brown

I read an article that says Witchcraft is the fastest growing religion in America today. The article said many lesbians are attracted to it, the worship of Mother Earth, blah, blah, blah. Just another prophecy being fulfilled. It just occurred to me that that $80,000 could have fed a lot of starving people on the planet. Then a larger thought Satan is diverting our resources to destroy the people on this planet. MJB

Jack

obama is your Satan,he is behind all of this.
- Mike Brown
  
  Not sure what you meant by that comment. Obama is not my Satan. I have been saying for a long time that he is the anti-christ. I jump over hoops, drove 600 miles to Tucson, was met by friends that whisked me the 25 miles to get me to my polling site. I was met by a lady outside that asked me to vote for her, a democrat. I asked her if she voted for Obama. When she said she did, I told her I couldn't vote for her because of her lack of judgement. I drive a semi over 100,000 miles a year and this year I have only seen one Obama sticker on a car. I have not seen any others. MJB
daves

It is only a drop in a bucket compared to what has been spent by the air force on Christian churches.

Just think of the people that could have been fed with that money.
- Robin from Arcadia, IN
  
  daves… Are you opposed to Christianity? Our nation is founded on Christian principles. When I was kid growing up, it was always majority rules. I don't know when that stopped being the norm. Probably when all the PC trash started.
  - daves
    
    Absolutely not. I am a Christian.
    
    I can see how important it is to my religious freedom to keep the Government out of Religion. There should never be one faith held higher by the Government. I just may not be our faith.
    
    I also disagree that our country that our nation was founded on Christian principles.
    
    The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was the first treaty concluded between the United States of America and Tripoli, signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796 and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797 and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797.
    
    The Treaty is much discussed in the 21st century because of the text of article 11, as ratified by the Senate:
    
    As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.[3]
    - Buddy
      
      If you are a Christian as you claim, daves, it's time you start acting like one. Otherwise, you are only fooling yourself. You are certainly not fooling anyone here.
    - Buddy
      
      daves: The language of one treaty, in which the US government kowtowed to muslims, just as we do today, does not override the hundreds of thousands of documents which clearly show this country was founded on Christian principles by the founding fathers, who were nearly all Christians with very few exceptions.
      
      The Mayflower Compact states that the reason for their coming to the new world was "for the glory of God and for the advancement of the Christian religion". You need to read the book, "The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States, a very thick volume that was written in 1864. That's no typo–1864, not 1964 or 2004.
    - heath3435
      
      Dave you need to take a history Class, The people that came here and started this country were puriton Christian. All but 2 of the founders were Christians, When the first foot landed on this land it was deigated to God.ECT, That is in history.
      
      Now that in your article 11 was form of a opinion but NOT base on Facts.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      Article 11 was written and confirmed by Congress. Amazing that such a devote group of Christians was willing to offer up such language.
    - heath3435
      
      Of course, It is a treaty, it is going to say anything, and ofcourse it was a opinion of congress to denounce Christians faith and the fear of war with muslim, but look what happen after. IT WAS RETRACTED and broken in 1801 because of the language against our faith and tripoli wanted more money. Which then lead
      Then the barbery wars were 1812 to 1815
      
      So again trying to twist the facts and create lies.

JDH

The USAF is right. It has set a new standard for stupidity and political correctness. Political correctness is the only offense I feel should be sentenced under Sharia law by the amputation of the offending organ.

Norman Dyche

I just wonder ; The oversite committes of our government, especially for spending, is a wash. They talk about. who selects them and what do they do? This was really oversite in action. They must have missed it completely.

Sarastro

I thought that in a democracy the majority won — how can t he Air Force build a worship center for such a (non-existing) minority?

JoJo

We don't live in a democracy, the US is a republic. The sleeping public allowed the likes of the communist ACLU and progressives to infiltrate every aspect of our lives. In their pea-sized brains, if there are two witches, then they must construct a monument for them to worship at instead of treating them like the christains and jews where they use the same buildings, but change out the symbols depending on the service. Next the AF will have satan worship centers. What I can't figure out is why constuct anything since witches worship "mother earth" let them prance around in their shrouds outside.
Bryan76016

Can you say, "REPUBLIC?" ….and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands. Our forefathers gave us a republic not a democracy. Other nations should be able to tell which God we serve. I guess a million abortions a year does blur the line somewhat. We need to get our country back.
- daves
  
  Since it is Mark Twain's birthday:
  
  When you set aside mere names & come down to realities, you find that we are ruled by a King just as other absolute monarchies are. His name is The Majority. He is mighty in bulk & strength … He rules by the right of possessing less money & less brains & more ignorance than the other competitor for the throne, The Minority. Ours is an Absolute Monarchy.
  - unsent letter to Bayard Taylor, June 10, 1878. Published in Mark Twain at Large by Arthur L. Scott
CELewis

We are a republic even though every politician calls USA a democracy. Most Americans don't even realize this or even know the difference

Buyerbwear

Thankfully, my nephew is in the Coast Guard Academy–a branch of the military that would never stoop this low (shocks me to think the USAF would do something this stupid).

Pat

don't hold your breath that they also will stoop to PC
Linda F.

Never say, "never," Buyerbwear.
Curry, USMC Vet

It is a known fact among the Army, Navy and the Marines that the USAF is not a branch of the armed forces of the United States…no joke, these people get paid extra money if their quarters don't have air conditioning…

Jim

Just getting in line for the One World Government. I guess if Major Duncan is a Christian then he forgot to read the passages about witchcraft in the Bible. The time is here in this country to where you are on GOD's side or you are on Satan's side. There is no middle ground. We have not seen anything yet on what they will be allowing in the military and other places. Especially if Obozo gets reelected, then we will see all evil unleashed.

Bob

AMEN Jim You are right

Vern

America is circleing the drain.

RUBIN

the leader of Iran is completely right about this country!

Dave Reinhart

Rubin,

The leader of Iran is a muslim. The religion that says you will be killed if you leave the muslim faith. The same religion that says it is OK to beat women and that a women cannot press charges for rape unless there are 7 male witnesses. Yes this country is messed up but so is Iran.

TedRWeiland

Why not? This is what comes from Amendment 1's polytheistic promoting provision for the freedom of religion. There will no overcoming such seditious acts against Yahweh until Christians wake up and STOP promoting the First Amendment as if there is some great Christian principle found therein. For more, see "Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut…

Find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to Yahweh's moral law (His commandments, statutes, and judgments). Take our Constitution Survey (http://www.missiontoisrael.org/constitutionsurvey/constitutionsurvey.php) and receive a free copy of the "Primer" (an 85 page book, normally $7 plus shipping) of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective."

http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville

Find out what is the proper distinction between OT law and NT Grace by reading NT and particularly The Letter to Galatians.
Judaizing is equal with purveying death and condemnation and this is what you do Ted.

Randy131

Chaplain Major Darren Duncan is setting a standard all right, but the wrong one, and by the way, what faith is he, because the GOD of Christianity and Judaism forbids the worship of false Gods and demands under the threat of retribution, that He be considered the one and only true GOD. If this Chaplain is a Christian, then he's a heretical Christian, and should be drummed out of our military and never allowed to preach in a Church to other Christians. Let him join the wiccans, druids, and earth-worshippers he cares so much for by going against the Christian and Judaism belief of only one true GOD.

virginia stith

I WAS IN THE AIR FORCE. I WORKED A LOT WITH THE CHAPLAINS IN THE BASE CHAPEL. THE AIR FORCE WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE IN OPERATION CHILD BUT THEY WILL BUILD A PAGAN CHAPEL . THIS ISD S DISGRACE. IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE UNLAWFUL INFILTRATION OF MUSLIMS IN OUR GOVERNMENT AND OUR MILITARY. USED TO YOU COULD COUNT ON SOMEONE WATCHING YOUR BACK, BUT WITH ALL THE MUSLIMS IN OUR MILITARY, EVEN THE MILITARY IS NOT SAFE. NO ONE TO WATCH THEIR BACK, DON;T KNOW WHO YOU CAN TRUST. GOD HELP US ALL.

Linda F.

First: I would like to thank you for serving our country, Virginia. Your service is greatly appreciated.

Second: Please don't yell at us. Thank you.
Kalev

Yes, turn of the Caps.
Capt Gene

Yes, God help us all, HOWEVER, this Nation has forgotten her God as witnessed by this and all the other crapola (no National Day of Prayer, no thanks given to God on Thanksgiving, communist priest and nuns protesting the Military, special treatment for various fluff of the lunatic fringe groups (atheists and "enviro's" come immediately to mind)). Unless we, as a NATION, get on our knees in prayer and fasting, God will not help us, rather, he will continue to turn His back on us. And knowing this might offend some, the so-called "silent majority" is the biggest offender here. By remaining silent the past 50+ years, they allowed evil to triumph. Today I seriously doubt the Republic will be saved.

Did you know the VA will even pay for me to see a tribal shauman?
Dave Reinhart

Never mind all the muslims in our military. Our president is a muslim who is lying about his birth certificate and social security number.

jerry

Throw a switch and the building becomes a mosque! Look for islam to be destroying our country with corruption at every level.

Joyce Roberts Lott

A chaplain explains?? Think of all the lives who have defended this country, the country Under God! No one would have thought this during WWII or even since then. Is it their money? No, it is the taxpayers' money. Let's pay our taxes under protest.

thornapplej

Hey Joyce, better yet how about let's just "not" pay our taxes at all. They can't put all of us in jail.

SeaDragon

Hmmm First Ammendment "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; …" How can those idiots think spending $80K to build a pagan chapel is not giving Government approval (establishing a religion) when they scream at even having Christian prayers. It is time someone sued the US Air Force for violating the first ammendment, and make them give $80K for a Christian Cross. Equal money for all, to PROVE they are not establishing a religion. The ONLY way to stop this idiocy is to hit them in the pocketbook. The only thing these PC kooks understand is money.

heath3435

Promblem with that SeaDragon, their pocket Book is our pocket Book.
- SeaDragon
  
  True, but the ONLY way politicians will quit spending money is if enough people yell at them for it, or better yet vote them out of office. One good way to do that is push hard for equal money, AND publicize the waste of this. The more people that know what they are spending for the more outrage will be generated. Post this article, and any others like it (stupid spending) or forward a link to it (them) to everyone you know. If enough people are upset about it just maybe something will be done.
  - heath3435
    
    Your right SeaDragon, but here is the promblem, they are either are affraid or just NOT willing to listen to the FACTS.

Bryan76016

One Nation under God. Like it or leave it. The God that this nation was founded upon is the God of Abraham, ISAAC, and JACOB. We should serve NO OTHER GOD. (Seems like I read that in a COMMANDMENT) Those who spend tax dollars for the un-Godly should make restitution and serve jail time.

TedRWeiland

Bryan, you're correct that 17th-century America was essentially founded under the God of the Bible. That all ended with the ratification of Amendment 1and its polytheistic provision for the worship of any and all gods. We ceased being one nation under one God in 1789 and very quickly became one nation under many gods. For more, see "Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut…

Find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to Yahweh's moral law (His commandments, statutes, and judgments). Take our Constitution Survey (http://www.missiontoisrael.org/constitutionsurvey/constitutionsurvey.php) and receive a free copy of the "Primer" (an 85 page book, normally $7 plus shipping) of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective."
- http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
  
  If you are alive to the Law you are dead to God. If you are dead to the law through law you are alive to God…
  - TedRWeiland
    
    Despeville, I'm not sure what your remark has to do with what I replied to Brian but it would seem your understanding of the law under the New Covenant is erroneous. I recommend you read "Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/law-kingdom.php.
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      "it would seem your understanding of the law under the New Covenant is erroneous."
      
      Appearances are deceiving Ted and my understanding of relationship of Law and Gospel are straight from from and subordinated to New Testament and particularly to Pauline exposition of this relationship as in the Letter to Galatians or Romans and other places in the New Testament. This is also were I will refer you to understand "my views" which are not my per say but of God the Holy Spirit instead to someones write up. If you want to discuss this here further and deeper I will take you up on it but solely and exclusively based on the Word of God and with prominence of greater light of the New Testament given by the Lord.
    - TedRWeiland
      
      Great! Please answer the following passages, all of which are excerpted from the book I recommended:
      
      “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” (Mathew 5:18)
      
      “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:19)
      
      “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity [anomian – lawlessness].” (Matthew 7:21-23)
      
      “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” (John 14:15)
      
      “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love….” (John 15:10)
      
      “…truth [is] in the law.” (Romans 2:20)
      
      “…by the law is the knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20)
      
      “Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.” (Romans 3:31)
      
      “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.” (Romans 7:12)
      
      “For we know that the law is spiritual….” (Romans 7:14)
      
      “That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” (Romans 8:4)
      
      “Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” (Romans 8:7)
      
      “Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.” (1 Corinthians 7:19)
      
      “But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully.” (1 Timothy 1:8)
      Do not believe in the New Covenant.
      
      “For this is the [New] covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts….” (Hebrews 8:10)
      
      “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.” (1 John 2:3)
      
      “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.” (1 John 3:4)
      
      “By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.” (1 John 5:2)
      
      “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” (1 John 5:3)
      
      “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” (Revelation 12:17)
      
      “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” (Revelation 14:12)
      
      “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.” (Revelation 22:14)
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      Mr.Weiland,
      
      Of course I cannot in one response give appropriate answer to you quoting 23 verses from 8 different books. That would be irresponsible and not honoring to the text itself given the time and and space limitations here nor 23 quotes of 46 or 69 can multiple anything but rather crease their understanding if one forgets or sets ASIDE their contexts…
      
      Interestingly and tellingly you have completely bypassed and omitted the Letter to Galatians whose one and solely purpose is to clarify what you and I want to discuss – The relationship between the Law and Grace. Isn't that strange? Not if one understand as I think I do that you are NOT willing to go the text that is most concerned about this subject and written SPECIFICALLY to address it and clarify for confused by it believers.
      
      But to begin to address what you have posted in honest and factual manner let's look at how even more tellingly you not only bypassed ENTIRE BOOK OF GALATIANS but also parts of verses that belong to the parts you quote but you do not quote entire verses for one and simple reason – TO OMIT the parts that are not conductive to your isogesis. Here is one example. You quote or rather MISQUOTE like this:
      
      “…by the law is the knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20)
      
      When the verse in its entirety says this:
      
      "For no one is declared righteous before him by the works of the law, for through the law comes the knowledge of sin."
      ~ Romans 3:20 NET
      
      You have INTENTIONALLY and PURPOSEFULLY LEFT OUT super important half of the verse and the half that QUALIFIES the half you have misquoted i.e.
      
      "For no one is declared righteous before him by the works of the law…"
      
      Why? Why would you do such a thing? Because you are not interested to hear what the voice of the Scripture actually says. You want to force it to the cacophony of your Judaizing law only or law first imbalanced and anti Grace and anti Gospel agenda. You do the same crude mutilation of the text several more times as if you quoting all this scripture APART of its context and stringing it on your Judaizing rope was not bad enough.
      
      The way you have carved, butchered and massacred Romans 2:20 is even more telling and testifying to your agenda Ted. Let us look what have you done to and with the Word of God. This is how you have cut it up:
      
      "“…truth [is] in the law.” (Romans 2:20)"
      
      This is not even a part of the verse but you cutting up parts of the Word and artificially gluing it together for your Judaizing agenda. Unbelievably NEFARIOUS and POISONOUS doing and practice. Here is the correct text unedited and in full from two very good translations:
      
      ' a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth"
      Romans 2:20 NASB
      
      "an educator of the senseless, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the essential features of knowledge and of the truth "
      Romans 2:20 NET
      
      Tell us Ted why do you have to do such a things with the Word of God? Why do you have to cut it, omit it parts and then reassemble it according to your Law agenda??? If you explain that and then proceed to discuss with me the true meaning of Romans 2:20 or 3:20 in their CONTEXT then I will move on to discuss what you did or do to the other verses that you quoted or misquoted in your "carpet bombing" of isogesis.
      
      T B C…
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      CONTINUED for Mr.Weiland and those who bother to understand the proper distinction between Law and Grace and the Judaizing tendencies which destroy and blur this proper distinction and relationship to advance a yoke of self righteousness.
      
      PART 2.
      
      Going back to ABSOLUTELY FOUNDATIONAL for this issue Letter to Galatians written with this purpose and mainly this purpose – that is to set a proper distinction and balance between Law and Grace which Ted purposefully avoided.
      I will just quote one verse in in sharp contrast to you in its ENTIRETY and I will strongly encourage you and the reader to read it in its immediate context and the context of entire Letter to Galatians.
      I will not move on to anything else unless you respond and respond properly and factually to this truth. That is just basics of honest, factual and civilized discussion which is what I want from you if you can commit to it.
      
      " yet we know that NO ONE is justified by the works of the law BUT by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ. And we have come to believe in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified BY the faithfulness of Christ and NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW because by the works of the law NO ONE will be justified."
      
      ~ Galatians 2:16
      
      We cannot nor can we afford to ignore this truth as it ties to many if not all verses you have cut up Ted and ripped out of their context including this for this is also their context albeit a broader one but still given and inspired by God the Holy Spirit.
      
      Sir if you teach law as you do you are a minister of sin, condemnation and death for that is what the Law is designed to do even though holy and righeouss. If you teach the law as you do your "savior" is Moses and not Christ and that is a sentence of death.
      
      Looking forward to your factual, substantiated and concrete answers to the passages and issues I have presented before I will move on to take apart your remaining part of your "carpet bombing".
      
      The truth sets us free.
    - TedRWeiland
      
      Despeville, while I did not quote Galatians 2:16, the following is what you will find in the book, immediately after the partial Scriptures that I provided you:
      
      "None of this is to say that Christians are under the law as were the Israelites during the Old (or Mosaic) Covenant. The Bible is very clear that New Covenant Christians are not under the law, but under grace (Romans 6:14). We are no longer required to perfectly keep all of Yahweh’s moral laws for righteousness as were the Israelites under the Mosaic Covenant:
      
      'And YHWH commanded us [Old Covenant Israelites] to do all these statutes, to fear YHWH our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before YHWH our God, as he hath commanded us.' (Deuteronomy 6:24-25)
      
      'For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.' (Galatians 3:10)
      
      "It was specifically this aspect of the Mosaic Covenant that Jesus fulfilled on our behalf and then abolished:
      
      'For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.' (Romans 10:4)
      
      "In Galatians 3:11, the Apostle Paul wrote, 'no man is justified by the law in the sight of God' and in Galatians 5:4, 'you [are] severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law, you have fallen from grace.' Justification (our legal standing before Yahweh) is what provides us our righteousness (our moral standing before Him). Justification, and thereby righteousness, is only attainable through Jesus’ propitiating sacrifice on our behalf.
      
      "Having fulfilled the Old Covenant requirement of perfect righteousness – perfect obedience to Yahweh’s laws, which equates with sinlessness – Jesus became our righteousness (1 Corinthians 1:26-31). Consequently, 'every one that believeth' is justified by the blood-atoning sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus the Christ and is no longer under the law, but under grace.
      
      "That Christians are not under the law has been perverted to mean that Yahweh’s laws have been abolished. If this were true, Jesus would have put an end to Yahweh’s morality, which would mean an end to Yahweh. What a horrific concept!…."
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      "Despeville, while I did not quote Galatians 2:16, the following is what you will find in the book, immediately after the partial Scriptures that I provided you: "
      
      No Sir this you have not provided in your posts here. That might be in you pamphlet via you link but not in your posts and everyone can verify that. I want to discuss Scripture one by one as referenced by me in response to you and not your pamphlets.
      
      Obviously you like quantity over quality and tellingly and again and effectively you have not said a word of substance DIRECTLY about:
      
      "" yet we know that NO ONE is justified by the works of the law BUT by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ. And we have come to believe in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified BY the faithfulness of Christ and NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW because by the works of the law NO ONE will be justified."
      
      ~ Galatians 2:16
      
      Despite my direct call and condition to move forward:
      
      " will not move on to anything else unless you respond and respond properly and factually to this truth. That is just basics of honest, factual and civilized discussion which is what I want from you if you can commit to it. "
      
      I was not kidding and Deuteronomy is not a commentary on Galatians. I am waiting for a factual response and when you quote or attempt to quote anything provide reference for it and do not mix Word of God with some commentaries.
      
      YOUR OWN WORDS about Galatians 2:16…
    - TedRWeiland
      
      Despeville,did you even read what I just sent you? Except where I'm quoting Scripture, the words are mine and they are nearly identical to what you've said about there being no justification by the law. Because of your erroneous presumption of what I believe, you are incapable of comprehending where we are in agreement. How sad.
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      YOUR OWN WORDS here and now. Which part you cannot understand?
      If you can comment here and now then what does this mean>
      
      "" yet we know that NO ONE is justified by the works of the law BUT by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ. And we have come to believe in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified BY the faithfulness of Christ and NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW because by the works of the law NO ONE will be justified."
      
      ~ Galatians 2:16
    - TedRWeiland
      
      I wrote the book, I'm quoting myself. You have my own words.
      
      Enough of your foolishness – (Proverbs 18:13). I have no more interest in continuing any more with you – (Proverbs 26:4).
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      ""I wrote the book, I'm quoting myself. You have my own words."
      
      Then do not quote me your book but answer to me in your own word here and now.
      Which part of "here and now" you do not understand? You can quote Proverbs until cows come home but your evasions of my straight on questions, mutilations of the Word of God for the purpose of your Judaizing agenda and lack of systematic and reasonable approach to the arguments presented by me do not qualify you to do so. All of that just shows your tactic of "carpet bombing" with verses that you brutishly rip out of their contextual meaning or cut in half or cut in parts all of that to drive on your cart with legalism and Judaizing.
      
      Sir you teaching and preaching the law are a minister of sin, a purveyoor of condemnation and an agent of DEATH. Your "savior" is not Jesus Christ and Him crucified but Moses and your performance of works by which you have condemned yourself to the second death for there is no justification in law or by law but condemnation and death only.
      
      You need to repent from your Judaizing and self righteousness and believe upon the Gospel of Christ. You need to stop crawling on your belly while dying and biting others with your eyes in your dung of works and dust self pride but lift up your eyes to the bronze snake for that is where the life is.
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      As far as foolishness Ted here is a sample of yours and only a fool would take your sloppy cut up jobs and brutish butchery you do with the Bible as anything else but a self induced and self propelled phantom ship of deadly Judaizing self righteousness.
      
      "“…by the law is the knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20)
      ~ Ted R Weiland cut up "version" of convenience
      
      The actual Word of God:
      
      NASB© Romans 3:20 "because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin."
      
      ESV© Romans 3:20 "For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin."
      
      NET© Romans 3:20 "For no one is declared righteous before him 1 by the works of the law, 2 for through the law comes 3 the knowledge of sin.
      
      OR THIS AGAIN:
      
      "“…truth [is] in the law.” (Romans 2:20)"
      Ted R Weiland butcher's "version" for Judaizing 101
      
      NASB© Romans 2:20 "a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth"
      
      ESV© Romans 2:20 "an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth"
      
      NET© Romans 2:20 an educator of the senseless, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the essential features of knowledge and of the truth
      
      In the end Ted you end up with the same tactics as every cultist does…
    - TedRWeiland
      
      Nehemiah 9:8
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      :)
      
      Ted, I did not know that Nehemiah was a commentary on Letter to Galatians.
      
      Do yourself a favor and read this PDF "Scripture Twisting: 20 Ways the Cults Misread the Bible" which I offer to you for free and which is a jest of the book with the same title offered on Amazon via enclosed in PDF link for 9.99 on Kindle and 11.55 in print. It will really help you but the PDF will jolt your thinking and I do know that you are an intelligent man.
      
      LINK: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22306708/20%20Scripture%2…
      
      PS Do you always plus your posts like you do here :) You think that makes them more convincing? Common, I know you are intelligent man.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      "Stupid is as stupid does"
      - Forest Gump
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      Fictional characters with fictional aphorisms for fiction based worldview of really and realistically confused and lost people. Any quotes from comic books tonight Jeff? By the way how is the mortgage business. Did you re-qualify to something else?
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      Ooops, here is a link again and I shortened it especially for you and your convenience:
      http://bit.ly/s2YlKJ
    - TedRWeiland
      
      Despeville: "Interestingly and tellingly you have completely bypassed and omitted the Letter to Galatians whose one and solely purpose is to clarify what you and I want to discuss – The relationship between the Law and Grace. Isn't that strange? Not if one understand as I think I do that you are NOT willing to go the text that is most concerned about this subject and written SPECIFICALLY to address it and clarify for confused by it believers." if you had gone and checked out the book I recommended you would have seen that I have a entire section addressing Galatians 3, which is absolutely key to correctly understanding Yahweh's law as it applies under the New Covenant. I think even you would agree.
      
      As for the following accusation: "You have INTENTIONALLY and PURPOSEFULLY LEFT OUT…." That is a judgment of my heart, which only Yahweh knows. I advise for you to stick to the facts of what you can know (or think you know.) Anything else is a usurpation of Yahweh's place as God.
      
      As for your presumptions for why I did not quote certain portions of Scriptures and passages: First, be careful, how you judge me is very likely how you will be judged (Matthew 7;1-4). I wonder, have you ever quoted certain verses and passages only in part? Or whenever you quote a verse, do you quote the entire book from which it comes?
      
      Now as to you erroneous conclusion: If you had gone and read the book I recommended, you would have found that I believe in the left out portions as much as you do. For the audience to whom I was writing (including you), I didn't need to include the parts that we agree upon. The question to you is: Do you agree with the portions I did quote?
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      "if you had gone and checked out the book I recommended you would have seen that I have a entire section addressing Galatians 3, which is absolutely key to correctly understanding Yahweh's law as it applies under the New Covenant. I think even you would agree."
      
      I am not interested in going to any books or pamphlets. I want your clear and succinct word here and now. I can send you to hundreds of links with entire works in volumes written by people 10 more educated than me and you combined but I will not for I can stand here and now with fairly simple words.
      
      "As for the following accusation: "You have INTENTIONALLY and PURPOSEFULLY LEFT OUT…." That is a judgment of my heart, which only Yahweh knows. I advise for you to stick to the facts of what you can know (or think you know.) Anything else is a usurpation of Yahweh's place as God. "
      
      NONSENSE and emotionally targeting evasion. I do not care about your heart I know what is there – SIN just like in my or anyone else's here and if you think it is not you are fooling yourself beyond my rescue. I am speaking about THE FACTS and the FACTS ARE:
      
      YOUR CUT CULTIST JOB on the Word of GOD:
      
      "“…truth [is] in the law.” (Romans 2:20)"
      
      And the actual truth of the Word of God that you cannot and will not fully and honestly present for it destroys your agenda in its fullness:
      
      ' a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth"
      Romans 2:20 NASB
      
      "an educator of the senseless, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the essential features of knowledge and of the truth "
      Romans 2:20 NET
      
      That is a judgment of my heart…" ??? You wish :) How about a judgment of your mutilation of the Word DOCUMENTED?
      
      As for your presumptions for why I did not quote certain portions of Scriptures and passages: First, be careful, how you judge me is very likely how you will be judged (Matthew 7;1-4).
      
      I am judging your abuse and distortions of the Word and not your heart. I know what is in your heart – same as in my and everyone else's – SMELLY SIN.
      
      "I wonder, have you ever quoted certain verses and passages only in part? Or whenever you quote a verse, do you quote the entire book from which it comes? "
      
      Never a cut job and a bloody butcher like abuse you have done with Romans 2:20 when you cut out parts out that are not even in sequence and then put them together to attempt to fool me. This is so bad that you make Jehovah Witnesses who are notorious abusers of the Word look really scholastic and orthodox.
      
      "Now as to you erroneous conclusion: If you had gone and read the book I recommended, you would have found that I believe in the left out portions as much as you do."
      
      I am only interested in collection of 66 Books called the Bible can you grasp that? Stop sending me to your spin. I WANT TO STAY IN THE WORD OF GOD AND DISCUSS THE WORD OF GOD ONLY. Can you do that?
      
      "…Do you agree with the portions I did quote?"
      
      Portions and misaligned as you distort them are not instructive or conductive to honest discussion of the doctrines of truth. Can you have a higher view of the Word of God instead of this cut up job and collage you are making with it? Did you practice that with Roman Catholics and JWs?
      
      I WANT TO STAY IN THE WORD OF GOD AND DISCUSS THE WORD OF GOD ONLY. Can you do that?
      
      Yes or No…?
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      "“…truth [is] in the law.” (Romans 2:20)"
      TedRWeiland "version"
      
      NASB© Romans 2:20 "a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth"
      
      ESV© Romans 2:20 "an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth"
      
      NET© Romans 2:20 an educator of the senseless, a teacher of little children, because you have in the law the essential features of knowledge and of the truth
      
      Anyone see the difference or is it just me "unable" to accept Ted's cut up jobs?
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      We have been subjected to your cut up jobs for months now. Why do you complain when someone else does the same thing?
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      I know you cannot understand any of this but I assume you can count. Looks like you cannot. For if you would then you could tell the difference between 4 words and say 22 words…
      
      How did you manage to stay that long in mortgage business? Lots of secretaries?

eva

Today it is fashionable to WASTE more money than ever before …. but this is more than a waste – it is disloyal and sick!

Kalev

Another sign of the decline of our Republic.
Stupid Americans not willing to stand up and literally fight for their country.
Obama and his pals are laughing and have bigger plans up next.
Can you say National Socialism?

http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville

Are you American?

ORB

Does it occur to anybody that this country may be under the judgment of God for the slaughter of more than 50,000,000 unborn babies?

http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville

It did… and few years back and this slaughter is just one of the things on the list that we can see which is not by anyl means a complete list.
Linda F.

It has occurred to me. Several times, in fact. I am ashamed of the things my home country has done. At the top of the list are endorsing false religions while spitting on the one true God, and endorsing the murders of millions of unborn children.
Dave Reinhart

We are under judgement for more than killing unborn children. We have turned our back to God on many things. There are plenty examples of what has happened to people who have done that throughout the bible.

Mike

This whole "Political Correct" movement is ruining our country. It total bull crap. It doesn't make sense to make major or
expensive changes to appease such a small number of people. When are we going to start listening to logic?

Chris

You people are total clowns. The government spent MILLIONS of dollars on the main chapel. The AFA forces Christanity on its cadets. Go to the MRFF site to see what a bunch of religious morons run the place.

It's an evangelical recruiting center. The Commandant's wife even forces religion on the cadets. They allow Christian recruiters on base even though regualr mortals aren't even allowed to access the government funded library.

http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville

"You people…"

Reading the way you address everybody here and consistently so would be really funny if not the historical fact that this was also a favorite address of Bolsheviks, Communists and Fascists… The rest of your mumblings is in line with their ideology as well.
Linda F.

"You people are total clowns."

Says the court jester himself.

Thanks for entertaining us with your never-ending hypocrisy and laughable remarks, Chris. :)
- Kalev
  
  Ignore this fool, you give him opportunity to spout off his idiocy when you reply.
heath3435

Chris, No One is forcing anyone a religion on them. Yes Christian are all around and rightfully.
To be force is either by Gun point like muslims or twisting your arms or threaten you family. There is NO Christians doing that, Now there might be a small group that does but they are NOT True Christians. To be a Christian and right with God is your choice. But have to remember that we are here on this earth for a very short time and when it is that time when we pass away. Are you willing to recieve the consquences of your belief when it has been clearly been proven that there is a heaven and a hell?
- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
  
  Stuff and nonsense. Just what proof of heaven and hell is there?
  - heath3435
    
    Millions of people that have gone there and witness both heaven and hell, But you do not believe because you never have experience it LIKE I HAVE. Yes I have. That Is when I became a Christian from a athiest because I did see both and as the angel explain to me ,If I continue the direction that I was going I would be in the fireriy Pitt.
    
    So again Jeff you have NO clue what your talking about, until you either open your eyes or experience what I have, You will never know and continue to lie what YOU think you know.

Rudi

The USAF is dumping chemicals in the sky on a daily basis over Lake LBJ in Texas and you are really surprised they would stoop this low. Do you know what is in the chemicals they dump daily. It threatens everything from our weather, our crops and even the air we breathe. Give me a freakin break. Wake the FU.

Kalev

So what IS in the chemicals?
- http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
  
  BARIUM and a lot of other life decreasing and lethal crap.
  Read and watch: http://www.infowars.com/geoengineering-our-enviro…
  - Kalev
    
    Thank you. Our own government, maybe it's time for a little "blood of patriots and tyrants".

Rodney

The authors of the Constitution Amendment 1 meant freedom of Christian religion, the only true religion. They didn't want a national denomination, but freedom to choose a denomination within the Christian religion. When we violate God's Word and worship other God's of other religions, we are inviting God's judgment.

TedRWeiland

Rodney, I know that what you've stated is what we've always been told, but it just ain't so:

"Christian Constitutionalists claim the word 'religion' in the Establishment Clause was exclusive to Christian denominations. At best, this is wishful thinking, the result of exploiting the historical record. The framers, while perhaps not rejecting Christianity (and in many instances even seeming to prefer it), rejected a Christian state in favor of a polytheistic one. In reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom, enacted one year before the federal Constitutional Convention, Thomas Jefferson wrote:

'Where the preamble [of the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom] declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word [sic] 'Jesus Christ,' so that it should read, “A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;” the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mahometan, the Hindoo, and the Infidel of every denomination.'(Thomas Jefferson, Albert Ellery Bergh, ed., The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, 19 vols. (Washington, DC: The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1907) vol. 1, p. 67.)

"Jefferson employed the word 'denomination,' not for the various Christian denominations, but for any religion or non-religion."

For more, see "Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut….
- heath3435
  
  Ted why do everybody goes after Thomas Jefferson, there were many other autors to the constitution. They also had journals and letters state their frame of Mind. Also what you have here is also out of context, How about putting the rest out. Along with other letters from Washington,Franklin Ect?
  - TedRWeiland
    
    Heath, if you will go to "Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut… and the other 34 chapters (from Chapter 3 forward), you will find that I quote many of framers and their compatriots such as Jefferson. More important, you find that I compare each and every article and amendment of the Constitution with Yahweh's morality as found in His commandments, statutes, and judgments, demonstrating that the Constitution is anything but Biblical or Christian.
    
    The complete book ("Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective" – 37 chapters, aprox. 600 pages) will, Lord willing, be published in January or February. In the meantime, take our Constitution Survey (http://www.missiontoisrael.org/constitutionsurvey/constitutionsurvey.php) and you will receive a free copy of the "Primer" (an 85 page book, normally $7 plus shipping) of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective."
    - heath3435
      
      Oh I see, So it is another opinionated Book you have written? And Now your promoting it Now?
      
      I would if it is allowed on this site to promote your own Books?
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      Given how you mutilate and distort the Scriptures which is documented here by comparing your cut up and collage jobs NONE should even approach your book unless he is firm enough in faith and doing some kind of research on cults.
    - TedRWeiland
      
      Nehemiah 6:8 & Proverbs 26:4
    - http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville
      
      Again to all who even give a zilch more to Ted's Judaizing efforts and massive butchery of the Word of God for the sake of his pseudo salvation in Moses and mosaic law please do yourself a favor and read this short two pager of a document on PDF describing 20 most common Scripture abuses and if deem worthy perhaps a book that is linked in the document. Ted is engaging in most of described errors and abuses.
      Just as he does again above slapping the Scripture on anyone who does not allow and does not agree with his damning Judaizing.
      
      LINK: http://bit.ly/s2YlKJ
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      Yep, every Christian who disagrees with another Christians view believes that they are twisting and butchering scripture. And, of course, the other believes that of the first. So very odd how a book written by the most intelligent entity in the universe cannot be understood by the people who claim to follow his word. How do you follow something you can even understand in the first place? The delusional mind is a wonder to behold in action.
CJM

Rodney: You desparately need a course in Political Science – Understanding the US Constitution. The First Amendment does NOT apply to the CHRISTIAN RELIGION. All it tells us is that we have the freedom of choice, (whether it be atheism, hindi, christian, pagan, or some other group) to worship as we desire and that the government shall NOT create (establish) a national religion. To create a national religion would mean that the Republic of the United States of America would become a theocracy (a nation governed by its religious choice, not democracy or republicanism) such as the UK and the sister nations of the Middle East. And by the way, christianity is NOT the "only true religion;" there are other denominations that believe in God and Christ—and they are just as worthy of recognition in His eyes as your 'christian' church is.

Grant

Worshipping another god(s), you might want to step aside….I see something ready to drop on that place. Hurricane, fire, bad storms, whatever…you name it :( Blasphemy to God, he won't allow other idols before HIM…woohoo

maryallen

Psalm 37:1-10 Do not fret because of evildoers, be not envious toward wrongdoers. 2For they will wither quickly like the grass and fade like the green herb. 3Trust in the LORD, and do good;
Dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness. 4 Delight yourself in the LORD; And He will give you the desires of your heart. 5Commit your way to the LORD, Trust also in Him, and He will do it. 6And He will bring forth your righteousness as the light and your judgment as the noonday. 7Rest in the LORD and wait patiently for Him; Do not fret because of him who prospers in his way, Because of the man who carries out wicked schemes. 8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath; Do not fret, it leads only to evildoing. 9 for evildoers will be cut off, but those who wait for the LORD, they will inherit the land. 10Yet a little while and the wicked man will be no more; and you will look carefully for his place and he will not be there.

buck

The chaplain that says they are setting astandard is an idiot . The Air Force has apparently got themselves a progressive leader , progressive bing a term of endearment for a lunatic liberal communist .I can't believe my brother gave his life to this organization of scumsucking whales–t . May every plane they fly turn to lead !

Linda F.

Buck: I happen to know someone who is a graduate of the Air Force Academy, and he is a Christian. Shame on you for cursing the men and women who risk their lives flying Air Force planes to keep YOU and your big mouth safe.
Chris P

The Commandant at the AFA is a religious zealot – as is his wife.

Curry, USMC Vet

Given the usury nature of the cost of goods sold to the military, I am guessing that this "Pagan worship center" erected at a cost of $80K amounts to one toilet seat bolted to a pile of rocks stuck somewhere on a hillside where these officious self-righteous do-gooders can be one with nature…hope that hillside is in the middle of an Air Force bombing range.

ONTIME

The road to hell is paved with good intention……..Maybe PC ought to stand for Possibly Crap.

Hard to believe that holloween has become a religion.

Chris P

Hard to believe that an adult doesn't understand the basis for Halloween.
http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

Hey, Christianity, Islam, Mormonism and Scientology have become religions with just as little to support them.
- ONTIME
  
  Yep and cultism has been around a long time too……

revman

yeah right Let's build a skyscraper in the Pacific Ocean

http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

At least everyone would get an ocean view.

Dave Reinhart

Scales on Our Eyes. Do you ever wonder why people cannot see what is happening to this country? The Bible talks about scales falling from Paul's eyes? Have you heard the christian hym Amazing Grace which is a ballad about a slave trader who said he was blind but now he sees?

Poor education and mass media have effectively placed "scales" over our people's eyes so the majority can't see that they are becoming slaves to people who do not love the one true God; Jesus. Just like the Bible says.

JingoBets

Pay attetion to the leaders we elect, they are the ones that push for and/or allow
these things to take place. Elect leaders like Obama and Pelosi, Barney Frank,
Harry Reid and this is what you can expect.

Carol Goodwin

Since when does one civilian have any sayso over what kind of 'worship' facility exists at any military establishment? As for the reservist, I think $80,000 for these 2 individuals is way to many tax dollars! What if we all demanded this kind of money from the government?? Our country is virtually bankrupt and I truly hope no one wonders why. It would take only a few sticks of wood and a good fire the fix the problem here! Didn't they burn withches at the stake at one time? Well these thieves should at least be in prison for extortion of $80,000!

Chris P

Then why is the Army building mega churches on their bases if we are so broke?

George

Take you political correctness and stick it. It is a shame that when a majority are christian and have to pay for something that is against what is right. Get a handle on what is important in this country, we are losing this great country to political correctness and not enough faith in the Creator. Open you eyes America before you lose what you got.

maryallen

My daughter and I went to a graduation ceremony many years ago when we lived in Colorado and it was a wonderful experience. It made me very sad to read what they are doing. Didn't anyone know that this was going on before it was too late to stop it?
Jude 1:17-19 But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, that they were saying to you, “In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.” These are the ones who cause divisions, worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit.

Chris P

A wonderful experience? Really – I though Christians were against killing people?

mexseiko

US is going down hard.

Larry G. 1 vote 1

It is Time. It is Time. It is Time. Time to organize another branch of the Tea Party. There are other organizations out there that are starting to put things in order. Everyone here on this site needs to get in touch with the Tea Party and join, become active and multiply. There are literally millions of people against this kind of thing and believe me , we will over come these IDIOTS. Remember, It is Time, It is Time, It is Time! please join some of these organizations, starting with the Tea Party.
Our government & branches of military have lost their way and we WILL show them how to find it. While getting rid of some of the running csared so called leaders. GOD BLESS!

Richard

"The USAF agreed to the project to accommodate “a civilian” and an “Air Force reservist” who demanded equal treatment for their faith." Once again Americans bow to the tyranny of the individual. As far as I know the USA is the only country where one person can hold the entire country in a grip of fear and submission because of PC.

"Does it occur to anybody that this country may be under the judgment of God for the slaughter of more than 50,000,000 unborn babies?" What do you mean 'may be under' How can anyone doubt that America is already under God's judgment?

Chris P

I think, according to you, that your god has slaughtered far more. With all those spontaneous abortions that were "god's will". I think he holds the record as the worlds largest abortionist.

LouiseCA

I predict that our days of winning wars are over. This has to be the final straw for Almighty God. No Operation Christian Child. No mentioning of the Name of Jesus for chaplains. The country is broken, people are struggling to feed their families, taking two and three jobs to stay afloat. But they spend 80 thousand taxpayer dollars to honor the devil? Nice going, America, nice going. Why don't we just spit in God's eye and get over with? Oh. I guess we just did.

Janis

some so-called Christian preachers are calling for a "CHRISLIM" religion…. you know christians and MUSLIMS to unite. God fornid but then again God is a gentleman…He will let us all make choices…even though it will be our own un-doing. We must all be viligent and not let the GREAT deceiver S**** get a complete hold on our great USA. We must pray and take action!

TedRWeiland

Heath, everyone on this site is opinionated and are promoting their opinions. I just happen to have additional information for my opinions for those who would like to check it out. Furthermore, the "Primer" is free – what do you have to lose? You don't even have to take our survey if you're not so inclined – just let me know and I'll be pleased to send you a complimentary copy simply for the asking. The complete book is also free – all thirty-seven chapters are available online (as are all but one of our books). I'm not trying to sell anything, just trying to get information I happen to believe in and believe is part of the answer for our nation into the hands of others.

http://tnij.org/visinvictus Despeville

"Heath, everyone on this site is opinionated and are promoting their opinions. I just happen to have additional information for my opinions for those who would like to check it out."

Hahhahahahaha and you are not opinionated Ted? And what is that "additional information" that you have? Did you receive or receive continuous "extra canonical" revelation? How? Do you hear voices or have you discovered manuscripts that none ever heard before and they just happened to land in your lap? Or is that "additional information" your butchery of God's Word where you cut, rip and combine Words of the Bible according to your Judaizing agenda?

"Furthermore, the "Primer" is free – what do you have to lose? "

Hmmmmm, like EVERYTHING? Like the truth? Like proper understanding of what is Law and what is Grace and how a sinful man like you and me can be saved before Holy God? Like following Moses instead of Jesus which is exactly what you do?
- TedRWeiland
  
  Nehemiah 6:8 and Proverbs 26:4

HARALD RET

What is Happining to OUR Country? Who is Running it? Why are We folling apart? WE are A Christion Nation, Under GOD, WE Believe! We are NOT United for some reason, WE are ALL saying the same thing , But it is not going out: to OUR Leader, Why! is He Not Lissening TO the People.? WE need (ONE United Front), WE are NOT Being Heard IN the WHITE-HOUSE .
GOD BLESS AMERICA UNITED *WE* STAND. WE are IN the "NOW" World, Don't Blame Yesterday, IT is Gone…….

Army Retired in SA

First – $80K on a government construction project? Couldn't have been much of project. For $80K it means they simply reseeded the chapel lawn, installed a park bench and maybe one tree, and then paid $70K for the mandatory environmental study to go with it.
Second, before you spout off about the Founding Fathers, etc., you might want to do a little research, such as reading such books as The Faiths of Our Fathers – What America's Founders Really Believed by Alfred J. Mapp, Jr. You may be very surprized to learn what they believed, said, and wrote about religion and government.
Third, before you sling around the word pagan, stop to consider that at least one other religion (besides Islam) considers Christians to be pagans as well. Just ask any rabbi about that.

migtex1234

WHOM EVER (PERSONS) INVOLVED IN THIS TRAVESTY, SHOULD BE FIRED AND FINED THE ENTIRE AMOUT.

TOTAL DISGUST.

retiredcoach

Why isn't the ACLU filing suit over this? A Christian display brings minions of dissenters and law suits!

GUEST

This Is Another Example Why I'M Losing Respect For My Country'! Idiot's Running The Government And Ruining The Morals Of America. (an Ex Air Force Viet-Nam Era Vet)

buck

Has anyone told the Air Force leadership that Satanists were not covered under the freedom of religion law . How do I know this ? Because at this time in history they would have been burned at the stake or drowned . There are no one more ignorant of the facts than the politically correct crowd , because they are ostriches with their head in the sand ( or somewhere else ) .

Mike

I joined the Air Force in 1977 but I only stayed until the end of my first enlistment because, even back then, the Air Force was just a bunch of candy-assed pussies. We have the best aircraft and areal weapons in the world but the Air Force personnel are pretty worthless. Even the Navy has more intestinla fortitude than the Air Force and they are mostly pole smokers. The Army and the Marines are the only true warriors we have. Maybe my opinion is just slanted because I spent an additional 18 years as an Infantryman in the Army. Don't hate me because I'm hardcore, not that I would care.

Tom Lamberth

I am military retired. However, if I was on active duty, there is no way in hell I would ever attend services conducted by Major (Pagan) Duncan. Furthermore, I would NOT want him administering my last rites…..Tom Lamberth, Freeport, Florida

Chris P

But you were quite happy for the military to force cadets and other to be subjected to Christian rights. Still happening to day at that Marine base.

CJM

First of all, this is OLD NEWS….it was printed several months ago so why even print it now? Secondly, the military has always built chapels for the troops; if setting aside a small area for those who are professed Pagans provides a meaningful place of worship for them so what. Quite frankly, the amount provided ($80K) is a bit overblown–there isn't that much material in the project. I'll bet if every military installation CLOSED the existing chapels, there would be such an outcry the echo would be heard around the world. The unvarnished truth is this: Neither God, Christ, the Archangels, prophets, or ANY entity associated with the Holy Father EVER said: build me a church. According to Christ, He can be worshipped any place, any time, and any hour. Since the military gave a building to the so-called Christians, why not to the Pagans…..So what's the beef here?

Dennis

The desires of 1 person cost the American taxpayers 80K, yet those of millions are totally ignored. Good Grief !!!!!!!