‘Doomsday Clock’ a Minute Closer to Midnight
The “Doomsday Clock,” a clock face used as a symbol of imminent apocalypse, has been moved one minute closer to midnight because of “inadequate progress” on stopping the spread of nuclear weapons and continuing inaction on climate change.
The “Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist” (BAS) announced on Tuesday that it has moved the “Doomsday Clock” to five minutes before midnight (11:55 p.m.). The closer the clock gets to midnight, the closer we are to global disaster, says BAS. It was last moved one minute back in 2010, BBC reported.
Earlier, the clock analogy represented the threat of global nuclear war. But since 2007, it has also been representing climate-changing technologies and “new developments in the life sciences that could inflict irrevocable harm.”
According to BAS, the group of scientists who have been maintaining the clock since 1947, it was believed 2 years ago “that world leaders might address the truly global threats we face. In many cases, that trend has not continued or been reversed.”
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The doomsday clock should somehow represent how far society has fallen and how arrogant we are and what that means in terms of God's judgement. That's the data that really matters
-ScarfaceWho cares about this silly clock crap?
-Bo KassaThose that are concerned about the Earth blowing up in a fiery flameout, jerkweed.
-Mike_ShieldsIf we had a clock showing how socialist this nation has become since Obama came to town, we could use the bloody thing for a ceiling fan.
-Karl SnarxWhat has changed to make us more Socialist? The health care bill comes to mind but that is just a requirement to buy private insurance so it is not really Socialist.
-davesIt is silly. Silly for man to think he still has that long. Silly to think that what's caused doomsday to be so close is nuclear arms and the climate cycles, instead of sin.
-PaulHaving overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to all, everywhere, to repent and come to the knowledge of the Truth.
What makes you think the end is near?
-davesThe Star of Bethleham movie is the best example of an accurate clock to date. It is an hour long an very interesting.
-WillyWhen I am taken up with Jesus that will be the time of 1 min. to the Judgment of GOD. I should say when the Church is taken up . all who truly believe in Jesus
-waynePre-trib rapture, that's a lie, we're all going through the Great Tribulation together. Read Matthew chapter 24, slowly with thought and ask God for wisdom to understand what His Son is saying in that chapter. They wouldn't "deliver you to tribulation" (v. 9 being one example) if your pre-trip rapture were true.
-KalevKalev, there is one thing certain for those who believe pre-rapture, mid-term and end-term rapture (I forget the terms used for these events) everyone of us self righteous people will learn the truth. What is this truth? I only know what my opinion is, like everybody else. My opinion may be just as wrong as your's be wrong. I sincerely hope my opinion is correct, then I will not have to live through the tribulation.
-MyrtlelinderDid you read Matthew 24 before you posted?
-KalevNo, not just before I posted, but I have read it many times. It is one that I have recommended, many times and in many posts on different sites. I think I'll just go and read it again, now. By the way Luke 21 follows closely Matt 24.
-MyrtlelinderYou can find a good reference in I Thes 4:13-18. Personally I think the great point is to be ready, GOD will take care of the rest, I accept HIS will for me.
As I read 1 Thess 4:13-18 it is a "what" wiil happen not a "when" it will happen.
-KalevKalev,,, I can see Paul telling the Thessalonians,,,,, by the way Thessalonians, most, if not all of you will have your heads cut off during this time of Wrath, wherefore comfort one another with these words!!! Please don't confuse the tribulation saints with the church already in heaven for a seven year period!!! We are told several times we will not go through the Wrath of God 1 thes 5 : 9 ""For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ""!!! In other words salvation from the tribulation! Mt 24 : 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened , and the moon shall not give her light , and the stars shall fall from heaven , and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken : Vs. 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven ………………. Kalev Nobody knows when Jesus is going to return ,,, 1Thes. 5 : 2 ……. the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night . When the tribulation saints see the sun dark, the moon not giving her light, the stars falling , the powers of heaven shaken ….. they will know his return is immediate, not as a thief Vs 31. The angels gathering His elect is purely , and only the tribulation saints !
-Pastor DwayneI am open to discussion from any but from the gospel according to ,"" Desparteville""
" In other words salvation from the tribulation!"
Try to use GOD's words and no "other" words i.e. yours and your traditions words… That would actually be of much help when discussing the Word of God otherwise you should refer to it as "word of Dwayne"
'For God did not destine us for wrath but for gaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ."
~ 1 Thessalonians 5:9 NET
The WRATH above refers to the outpouring of God's judgment on the last day – the day of judgment and not to easy ticket out of suffering as you have been duped to believe by your traditions…
Translating committeemen of NET rightly recognize this and here it a textual note from them:
"sn God did not destine us for wrath. In context this refers to the outpouring of God’s wrath on the earth in the day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2-4)."
Can you make any intelligent, substantiated and biblical case that they are wrong and you are right FROM THIS TEXT ITSELF without 'carpet bombing" of your dispensational proof texts?
We all know it… You cannot. Traditions of men is all you got.
-DespevilleThank you for that perspective, being of the Berean spirit I'm going to consider what you wrote and I agree also "I am open to discussion from any but from the gospel according to ,"" Desparteville"" ".
-KalevWhat a theological bully, like his incendiary reply to you, individual has no tact whatsoever.
Can you actually touch factually and in substantiated fashion anything that I said?
-DespevilleOf course you cannot. All you can do is your childish mockery of my nick.
Such is the power of your Judaism Kalev… Sad indeed.
Des,,,,, just one time, reply to , if the angels don't even know when Jesus is coming, and when the signs of a dark sun, no light moon , stars falling , powers shaken , the saints at that time "KNOW Jesus' return is immediate" , and look who is coming with him when he returns, who are they ??? Rev 19 : 14 armies dressed in the vs 8. clothes of the saints, returning with Jesus , from heaven!!!
-Pastor DwayneBefore the return to earth with Jesus, Vs 7 tells us the lamb's marriage supper is immediate with his bride the church
Again , no one knows when Jesus is returning , the , I'll call them the tribulation saints, KNOW when Jesus is coming!!!
I am sorry I am either tired or you are not making sense. Rephrase it please and and stop this graffiti with punctuation marks. I
-DespevilleHumpty, you must be tired a lot, for your comprehension skills are pathetic.
-Jeff DixonReally Pastor Dwayne–I was reading it carefully–I really want to understand it. Can you re-write it?
-Joe AnzilottiOk Joe, If no knows when Jesus is going to return, how , according to Mt 24 : 29-30, does the saints know when His immediate return is
-Pastor DwayneSo, you think that some saints know something that Jesus himself says he does not know? So, your belief is that Jesus, who is god knows less than the some saints who are not god? (Of course, since Jesus does not know, it also shows he is not all knowing and therefore, cannot be a god)
-Jeff DixonJeff ,,,,You are just like Des ,, refusing to look at the issue at hand, then go off on a rant and rave on how wrong it is , blame it on tradition, not scientific and what all else that will appease your position . And you not knowing the Lord can only speculate what scripture says
-Pastor DwayneDo not flatter yourself Dwayne. I do not refuse anything of substance but you are not producing it nor are you communicating it… I too have been duped by Pentecostalism and Dispensationalism and what it is that you think that you can offer? You spin on Matthew 24:29-30 is not actually supported by the text itself.
Where do saints know here?
'“Immediately after the suffering of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven will be shaken.Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man arriving on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."
"all the tribes of the earth" is referring to all of humanity and "They will see…: refers to His second coming being CONSUMMATED.
By the way where is your 170 year old "rapture" in all of this???
-Despevilledoesn't fit the gospel according to des, so,,,, SIGH
-Pastor DwayneYou just smeared me with assertion that I "refuse to look at the issue at hand"… I did looked at the issue. I quoted the asserted texts I pointed to specific information within it and I asked you specific questions…
And what did you do in return "pastor"? Al you did us offer me your platitude and your attitude. So who really is REFUSING TO LOOK AT THE FACTS???
-DespevilleThe Gospel is not your opinion versus somebody else that is for sure. As far as eschatology dealing with the future and last things there is a great deal of discussions going in the church as simply to the things we are not completely certain about in a absolute sense. Yet if you look in the past and historic facts the teaching of so called "rapture" or "translation"as it was known for first 80 or so years and the rest of dispensationalism is no more than 170 years old and completely alien to the teaching of Christian church for over 1830 years…
Do you really thing that Christian Faith is continuous discoveries and continuous revelation???
-DespevilleAbsolutely if what you are asking what I think you are asking!
-Myrtlelinder"Absolutely? ??? Then the canon is open. And if so all of the wackos that came forth with new additions to the Gospel must be gaining ground with your view for you grant them continuous revelation…
-DespevilleInteresting question: "has God revealed all He will ever reveal"? "Continuious discoveries and continious revelation?" Why not? The heavens are closed and the God who said, "I am the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow" who always spoke through prophets or apostles no longer does so, now remains captive to your machinations concerning interpretations of the Bible. Really? Your gospel has splintered and broken into 50K different and diffused groups, all claiming the truth. All based on the Bible. Can they all be right, given their different interpretations? Of course not.
Paraphrased:
"Do not add to or take away from these revelations or the plagues, etc will be added to you and your name removed from the Book of Life."
Why would God put such promises/threats in the Bible? Has anyone had plagues etc added to their lives? Has anyone had their name removed from the Book of Life? Unknown, but such threats would not be there unless the possibility existed. Why then the threat?
-Esteban CafeReading what you posted leads me to believe you put as much attention to the "Old" Testament as you do the "New" Testament, something those "50K different and diffused groups" refuse to accept. And maybe we shouldn't view it as "revealed revelation" but people who actually have "eyes to see and ears that hear" that the Prophets and Yeshua said would happen prior to His return.
-Kalev"Why not?"
Let me answer your above assertion with your own words:
" The heavens are closed and the God who said, "I am the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow" "
'Your gospel has splintered and broken into 50K different and diffused groups, all claiming the truth. All based on the Bible"
Is it 50K already? There must be a serious inflation in Roman Catholic demagogy then… For the source which stated 30K i.e. "World Christian Encyclopedia: A Comparative Survey of Churches and Religions in The Modern World" by David B. Barrett , George T. Kurian and Todd M. Johnson states 30k and in it counts thousands of Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Unitarians, all kinds of Spiritists as "Protestant denominations" of course none of that says a thing to a clueless and ignorant Roman Catholic who wants to count all kinds of heretics as "Protestant" for the purposes of poisoning the well and driving gullible across the Tiber as resident Roman indoctrinator DeMelon does and you after him.
Never mind that the source falsely asserts a bogus number of 30K. That is not enough for Roman Catholic lies… Now it is 50K or soon 100K or why not a million of "denominations"? Anything works for the whore of Rome. Well perhaps you should learn that the very same source from which your Roman demagogy is spun off states that THERE ARE 242 ROMAN CATHOLIC DENOMINATIONS WORLDWIDE and that ROMAN CHURCH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF 5 MILLION CHRISTIANS.
Will you assert that too? Will that stop you from lying? I doubt it will. DeMelon did not even flinched and continue to lie about that while mumbling about "dear Lord" Jesus…
-Despeville"…All based on the Bible"
And by the way that is a big and ignorant LIE too. If Sola Scriptura would be truly respected and not given mainly a lip service there would be much less denominations from at most 20 truly biblical that are there.
By the way do not "paraphrase" the Word of God. Would you "paraphrase" a specific law in the court? I do not think so yet this is infinitely more important and higher than man made stuff.
ROME DOES NOT HAVE GOSPEL. Only lies about it.
-DespevilleOk, let's step through this. You slant the rapid growth of differing Biblical views towards "major denominations" instead of the actual dividing differences which account for my claim of 50K. Answer the reasoning and don't hide behine your quibble over numbers. Let's hear your version of the truth. BTW, how many churches have YOU belonged to over your life? That's right: the first one was correct, then it wasn't; then the 2nd one was correct, then it wasn't, Ad nauseum. BUT! your current belief is now correct, right?
-Esteban CafeThe additional points:
1. I am not Catholic, sir.
-Esteban Cafe2. You seem to place yourself squarely in judgement of other denominations, based on your current understanding of the Gospel. Say it with me: "I. Don't. Know" There, that wasn't so hard was it?
3. Paraphraasing the Bible is what all the various versions of the Bible end up doing, is it not? But you have the correct version, right? And who are you to tell me not to paraphrase the Bible? You know God's mind on this subject? Me thinks you're more a "law unto yourself" than a guide.
4. In your citations you point to other flawed men's work as the most current understanding–which was different from the understanding you had last year–"ever learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth"?
"1. I am not Catholic, sir. "
You like them and just because you do not have a parish record it does not mean you are not in your beliefs.
"3. Paraphraasing the Bible is what all the various versions of the Bible end up doing, is it not? "
Nope. It is called translating. That's entirely different.
"But you have the correct version, right? "
Nope, I use about five different ones but translations.
"You know God's mind on this subject?"
Nope, only insofar as He said it in His word and that is sufficient.
"you point to other flawed men's work as the most current understanding–which was different from the understanding you had last year"
Do you actually have any substance for this canard of yours?
-Despeville5. From your chair the lack of God's authority (a prophet or some other authority) on earth promotes more division! Incredible. A single unifying voice from God is what He always had on earth. Why He removed it I do not know, but clearly the jumble of confused religions, each espousing their own creed and differing to the point of anger causes many of us to cry out for the truth. But all we've gotten are creeps predicting the end of the world or mega church slicks in it for the $. Or, we're left to read the scriptures, seek the Spirit and come to our own conclusions.
-Esteban CafeAnd what would be your "true religion"? You lie like Roman Catholics and hallucinate like a Mormon.
-DespevilleWhich one is it?
That would be pre-, mid- and post-trip. Based on my Bible study I believe post-trib and believers and unbelievers will go through it together. And these rapture doctrines, as defined by men is less than 200 years old.
-KalevBut that is the point: "Based upon MY Bible study I believe…" And how, Sir, do you know that your interpretation of the Bible is correct? With over 50K Bible-based religions (cults?) who divide over the smallest of differences, how is it possible to know the truth without some authority to say "Thus saith the Lord God" or some other claim to authority? By the Spirit? I suppose that's a start…but a lot of the biblically charged differences are supported by such claims.
The cat fights I see on this site make the above point poignantly, led by those with the most glib Biblical tongues, Despeville foremost. Where is the truth?? I feel like this site is populated with blind guides with just as many 'gotchas' as the Pharisees of NT times. To ask such questions is a blasphamous now as it was to question the Sanhedrin back then: "You simply do not understand the scriptures! is their retort.
-Esteban Cafe"With over 50K Bible-based religions (cults?)"
You are a victim of a massive and butchered spiritual lobotomy…. Sad.
Educate yourself a bit: http://www.justforcatholics.org/a86.htm
-DespevilleI am in no way any part of those 50K you mention. My post was an honest view of what my last 8 years of serious Bible study had led me to. Once upon a time I was a pre-trib because the crowd said it was the correct view. I no longer adhere to the beliefs of Christendom, that 50K you refer to, and have been in a study based on the Hebraic perspective of the "faith once delivered". I am no "expert" just a simple man that loves the LORD and seeks after His wisdom, and willing to share what I have discovered in Him. Take it or leave, that's up to you and if you have something to share I'll take a look , not out right reject it because it conflicts with my doctrines of men, as some do per your "cat fight" comment.
-Kalev'…what I have discovered in Him."
Or perhaps and more correctly what AVRAM YEHOSHUA (which is a fake name and a nick really) and his group discovered?
-DespevilleKalev, Mr. Despeville's attitude is common in my country too. Mr. Despeville does not reflect the soft heart of one who wishes to learn but, rather, to instruct. I doubt he can be taught anything by the humble–only by those with scholarly letters after their names…and whose scholarship will be contradicted in several years. He seeks the lofitest seat at this feast. "I Don't Know" is not in his vocabulary–only Pharisaical diatribes meant to bend the will of others to his own. Not a sheperd but more of a sheep herder, and possibly a ravaning wolf within. Temper yourself, Mr. Despeville.
-Esteban CafePerhaps you should attempt to address any of the Scriptural arguments presented by Mr.Despeville instead of addressing Mr.Despeville himself. It is called ad hominem evasion and something all of you cultists specialize in.
What country that would be? Mormonia?
-Despeville" I feel like this…"
YOU FEEL? YOU FEEL? Really? So reality is subject or perhaps based on your feelings? WOW!
-DespevilleOpen the Word of God and subjugate your feelings to the truth…
Feelings are great slaves but terrible masters.
As documented in your emotional rant.
"…did not our hearts burn within us?" Do not fully reject your heart in matters of God. I'm starting to pitty you, sir. Pithy posts that do not lead us to light are self extinguishing. Say it with me, sir: "I do not know" and set down that heavy load you're carrying.
-Esteban CafeI could care less about your pity as I care less about the rest of your rubbish rant? Do you have nay facts to offer or your personal whining is it?
-DespevilleNo man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means. — George Bernard Shaw
-Jeff DixonImam Dixon,
Do you have any quotes about Qu'ran or assertions that you make constantly?
-DespevilleConstantly? None constantly. One that I made a mistake on. I am hardly the first person to make a mistake, and I will not be the last person to make a mistake. However, one difference is that I am willing to own up to mistakes. Unlike you with your propensity to lie.
-Jeff DixonImam Dixon,
You have repeated that urban myth many, many times and I have seen it. It is just that got fed up with it and addressed it this time. That's all. Yes, I do mistakes too and have no problem stating that. The things is there is nothing to be learned from you in terms of truth.
-DespevilleUrban myth? There is no urban myth being discussed here.
However, you have a huge problem admitting mistakes. Lying about that is comical.
-Jeff DixonDon't play stupid with your "here"… Remember double negative?
-DespevilleRest is your irrational rant as usual 13th imam of ignorance Dixon.
His Most Inane Poster, Defender of the Delusion, Protector of the Rabbit Hole, Sovereign of the Most Ancient and Most Ignoble Order of the Big Lie, Sovereign of the Order of the Companions of Deceit, Sovereign of the Most Venerable Order of the Windbag.
-Jeff DixonThanks Jeff for tying up that idiot Despeville, I usually like most everyone on these blogs, even though I may disagree but he is one that I absolutely abhor. He's a Christian legalist of the Calvinist persuasion. He has not a clue as to what my beliefs and theology are and he denigrates me and my fellows in the Hebraic perspective of the Christian faith. His comments about my friend and mentor are slanderous and could get him sued in a court of law if Avram felt complelled to do so.
-KalevIn my humble opinion Despeville is a true slime-ball.
"He's a Christian legalist …"
HAhahahaha coming from a Judaizer like you who drives everyone under Mosaic law is really special. That's how darkness works though, a classic.
"He has not a clue as to what my beliefs and theology are …"
Au contraire I know very well and everyone can know too. Here is your rubbish: http://www.seedofabraham.net/
"could get him sued in a court of law if Avram felt complelled to do so."
That would be a new one 
and it further shows how childless clueless you are even in the matters of law. Go ahead you can contact my law firm and the first consultation will be on me: http://www.bakerdonelson.com
ask for John Shapiro.
-DespevilleHe is just an old dog that growls but has no bite left in him.
-Jeff DixonI bet you $500 that I am younger than you are and I do not bite indeed.
-DespevilleWhat I can do is provide a mighty and expensive headache if pressed and ask for it.
Humpty, if you feel the need to sue someone for posts on this site, you are even more pathetic than I thought was possible.
You exhibit a bitter old personality, your actual age is irrelevant.
-Jeff DixonSchizoid Imam Dixon,
Your schizophrenia is acting up badly and you do not even register who brought what up.
If you can catch up at some point you will see it was Caleb also known as Kalev fan of Judaizer. Here is a quote from him for your lazy eyes:
"His comments about my friend and mentor are slanderous and could get him sued in a court of law if Avram felt complelled to do so."
-DespevilleI saw his post. I saw you decided to one up him and throw in a name of your attorney. I see you also repeated it at least once. But if you think there was actually any threat of a real lawsuit, you really are delusional.
-Jeff DixonOf course there would not be until Kalev and his Judaizers would actually file something. Then it would be and I hope you are intelligent enough to know that…
-DespevilleHumpty, no one even knows your real name. Just who would they be serving this lawsuit to?
-Jeff DixonAs with everything Schizo there are work arounds. There are those things called IP addresses fairly easy to get from this site or any board site like this. Then if you really want it there are ways to to get a real address and name but who would bother for this nonsense here?
-DespevilleSchizo,
Do you want me to post your IP?
-DespevilleIf you like. I already post my blog site.
-Jeff DixonYea, you do with 2 members…
-DespevilleYep
-Jeff DixonFrom Bible to Bungee… ? And you call this "Rational Responses"…? Hmmm. Very special Jeff could you please expound for us this special rational connection you have found that prompted you to comment on both? Any special themes?
-DespevilleMy introductory heading explains it all very well.
"In a world that is full of misinformation and outright lies, I have tried to create a site that can provide accurate and rational responses to questions about life. We can explore the pressing questions about science, religion, government and society together. Of course, we can have some fun doing this as well."
Bungee jumping was one of the fun ones.
-Jeff DixonHmmm, So you actually find it funny when a woman went down 111 meters?
-DespevilleFun and funny are different concepts, Humpty. When I went to my sons rugby game that was fun. Reading your posts is funny.
When the woman fell 111 meters that was not funny, but it was fun to post the information about the dangers of the sport.
-Jeff DixonSo now back to your standard sematic games. You know what that means imam? That means you are depleted for tonight. Although I must say that it was not fun to hear from you what you find as funny and described as fun on your blog… Joe is right. You are sometimes disclosing your complete lack of human like feelings which is one of the very core traits of every single psychopath. Hmmm, you are dangerous to society I think Jeff.
-DespevilleSince you have a bad habit of making up new definitions for words, it is hard to know what you really mean much of the time.
But drink up and enjoy your wine. It makes your postings even more funny.
-Jeff Dixon"Bungee jumping was one of the fun ones."
Hmmm, Do you find it enjoyable when you hear about terrified of suffering people? Share on that Jeff.
-DespevilleOf course not. I share information to help others avoid similar problems. Which is why I engage you, Humpty.
Actually, all my posts show a pattern of helping others. I help gays when they are attacked. I help children when they are attacked. I help women when they are attacked.
You might try starting to help people instead of spending your time attacking others.
-Jeff DixonYou help by posting your rumblings? How is that of any help imam? Besides this is not what you have confessed. This is what you said about a terrifying fall of a woman:
'"Bungee jumping was one of the fun ones."
Having fun is help? Hmmm perhaps but for whom Jeffo? It looks like this kind of "fun" that you find helps you somehow…
-DespevilleYes, my posting help combat the delusion of religion.
Bungee jumping was one of the fun ones. But that does not mean it was funny. I have already explained this to you Humpty. I know your game. You try to twist words to make it seem as if I mean something other than what I have said they mean. I expect no less, it is all part of your pathological mindset.
-Jeff DixonOk let us go with this explanation. I can see that you were not precise with your words.
-DespevilleSo you write about Bible only to proceed to Bungee jumping?
-DespevilleYes, that is definitive and distinct characteristics of schizophrenia imam Dixon…
"just an old dog"
"your actual age is irrelevant."
Then your assertion above was obviously too…
-DespevilleCertainly the rapture idea is a myth, but how do you see Jesus speaking to us, 2000 years later, when He is telling them, the first century audience, about the things that they would see and hear in their lifetime?
-EricThe idea of The Rapture is not a myth, as we've seen it written down in multiple sources. We can't know whether or not something is true, if it hasn't happened yet. What Jesus spoke of in their lifetime, as you state, may not necessarily be the case, simply because he's speaking to all of us, today.
Read the you as plural. Or as my good friend from Texas would say, "Y'all!"
-Mike_Shields"The idea of The Rapture is not a myth, as we've seen it written down in multiple sources."
So I suppose that reincarnation is not a myth as well, since it is "written down in multiple sources."
"What Jesus spoke of in their lifetime, as you state, may not necessarily be the case, simply because he's speaking to all of us, today."
Really? How do you know that Jesus is "speaking to all of us, today"? Where do you get this knowledge from the context of Matthew 24?
"Read the you as plural."
I do. Jesus was speaking to "them," as it clearly states in Matthew 24:2 and 24:4. But it doesn't state that He was speaking to many generations with his Olivet Discourse. Read Matt. 24:33-34 to know which audience He had in mind for His words (remembering that He was speaking privately to the disciples at this point). I don't deny that these words have meaning for us today, but they don't have prophetic significance in the sense of warning of events in our future. These events have long been completed.
-EricYes, Eric, and the purpose of the “Olivet Discourse” is to brief Tribulation believers (especially Jews in Southern Palestine) with regards to the events of the Tribulation and how to stay alive through them.
-msjallenBelievers in the Church Age will NOT go through the Tribulation.
Just because a Bible Doctrine was only discovered just so many years ago does not mean it is wrong. There were not enough Bible scholars who knew Hebrew or Greek to discover a lot of things in the Bible because of the RCC. It is NOT adding to the Canon of Scriptures; it is explaining them.
Right, so even though Jesus was telling His disciples to be aware of these things, He really was directing it to future believers, thousands of years later. In essence, the Olivet Discourse is meaningless to believers until AFTER the "tribulation." Is that really what you are saying?
-EricYes, that is what she is saying and implying after "rapture theology" "discovered" in XIX century…
-DespevilleEric, I believe that everything in God's Word is meaningful but not all of it applies to the way we are to live the spiritual way of life in the Church Age. There are principles we follow written in the Law but we don't live under the Law but under grace; the Law of Spirituality. As Jesus lived in the power of the Holy Spirit we as believers in the Church Age are to do the same. The Tribulational believers will be living in the final 7 years of the Age of Israel and they will be living under the Law again. They will need instructions on what to do as there will be signs for them to follow. The OD gives us confidence as to what will help them as the Church Age doctrines give us confidence.
-msjallenHow is any of this general and loose talk proves any of what you trying to prove about "rapture"?
It does not. Anyone can see that you just imply, assert, give opinion and imply some more with ZERO of biblical substance for there is none that could be presented by you apart from your men made traditions.
By the way your "seven ages" are bogus and made up as well. The word knows covenants of God and not your ages.
-DespevilleAt the Rapture we meet the Lord in the air and at His 2nd Advent He will touch down at the Mt. of Olives.
-msjallenI Corinthians 15:51-53 Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.
I Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
•Then the Tribulation of 7 years when the Anti-Christ and Satan rule and control all the Nations.
Those passages describe the RESURRECTION on the Last Day – The Day of Judgment. Can you disprove that? For that is what you have to do to hijack them for your "rapture" as you think you can do.
-DespevilleMy comments ARE the answer to your questions. Read all comments before speaking; especially the beginning sentences.
-msjallenNo they are not any answer whatsoever. They are only you misapplications of texts that do not teach what you imply they teach Anyone who can understand the Word by the Grace of God knows that what you have quoted speaks about Second Coming. Why then do you quote those Scriptures in the thread and exchange where you propose "rapture"????
What is that if not a crude manipulation?
-DespevilleThe 2nd Coming or Advent is when Jesus’ feet will touch down to the Mt. of Olives and sets up His Kingdom after defeating Satan at the end of the Tribulation.
-msjallenZechariah 14:3-4 Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle. 4 In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.
•Jesus Christ will then reign on the earth for 1000 years on the Throne of David and restoring Israel to their promised land.
This info barely scratches the surface of so much more information in the Word of God and no space to include here. I don’t study from the internet and get my information from people I know nothing about but from my pastor-teacher who is extremely knowledgeable in Bible Doctrine from the original languages of the Bible (Taught for 53 years). I have many notes and scriptures to back up what I believe and would never take advice from people with less knowledge.
Sure, how about you submit to men in your life who tell you otherwise which you refuse to do and violate the Word that prohibits you to assert your "teacher's" role over them? Somehow those passages are not that literal nor important for you…
Passage from Zechariah that you misapplied speaks about SECOND COMING and not about the so called "rapture". Are you really that forgone in your traditions that you can take so clearly visible attestation to the Second coming and read into it your 1.5 "coming" i.e. man made rapture?
You should listen to men in your life and do not argue with them that you know "better" for you do not.
-DespevilleDes, you are totally out of line. I am not trying to teach anyone just answering your questions. In my spiritual life I am under the authority of God and my pastor-teacher; not you or anyone else since I no longer have a husband. I have the right to make comments here just like you or anyone else so get over it. When Paul wrote about women keeping silent in church it was IN the Local Church and this is not the assembly of the local church. We can argue until we are blue in the face but you are not worth it so go argue with Jeff because I again have to remind myself not to respond to your ignorance.
-msjallen'…you are not worth it so go argue with Jeff because I again have to remind myself not to respond to your ignorance."
Sure oh worthy one. So your brother must be ignorant too? Unless of course he would jump on dispensational tug boat. You speak to many men here who are Christian and you assert your "knowledge" and "authority" to THEM while you have none of any.
-DespevilleExactly what I now do, Despeville is a Calvinistic legalist and an idiot. I have found it is best to ignore idiots and imbeciles and he is both.
-Kalev"…a Calvinistic legalist"
Coming from Mosaic Judaizer who looks up more to Moses than to Jesus and denies Trinity is really special.
-Despevillehttp://gracethrufaith.com/ikvot-hamashiach/no-one…
-heath3435You will NOT know the hour or the day.
Now you could believe or not. But my opinion(yes opinion) is to be ready anyway.
I see a lot of bickering ,I got caught up in as well and the lord spoke to me and said what are you doing? Not My respondability.So I am just going to sit back and watch and have the will of God work through me when HE wants me too.
Right Now I feel his tears while watching his children fight.
He spoke to you? Hmmm. Interesting but I can assure you that He actually speaks in His Word…
-DespevilleLike I said,You can believe or Not.
I am just going to be prepared, study and worship and praise.
-heath3435and LOOK forward for my relationship to grow with God.
Good on you matey.
-DespevilleAs they say down under.
Indeed Praise Him for He is worthy.
BTW, Des, why would anyone want to follow your way of belief when you are so belligerent towards those of us who do not believe the way you do? As I have said before, it does not matter whether one believes in the Rapture or not; the issue is does one believe in Jesus Christ as their savior. If I were not a believer, I would not want to listen to what you have to say about anything in the Bible because of your arrogant attitude.
-msjallenI do not have "my way" nor I want anyone to follow me for I am a sinner in the need of Grace.
People need to follow The Savior Jesus as He is the only hope for their sins. That would include your sins as well.
The rant about me and your ad hominem is completely and utterly besides the point that you should be making and that is a BIBLICAL CASE for "rapture" and your dispensationalism.
Do not discuss me but arguments that I present. Thus you cannot or are not willing to do. Strangely how the same type of evasion is so evident in Mormons or Roman Catholics here. Does it make you think some times why you have to evade an manipulate for the sake of your man made eschatology?
-DespevilleYou just want people to shut up and listen to your every word. You are exhibiting a messiah complex as well. It is amazing just how deep your delusion really runs.
-Jeff Dixon"Messiah complex"
That's a new one. Where did you hear that? At your shrink's?
-DespevilleI have nothing new to say than what is in the Word the very same that is closed to you in your blindness imam Dixon.
Right on Jeff he does have a messiah complex and he is so ignorant he cannot see it in himself.
-KalevSure Moses' pet boy. Avram is your "Messiah" Is he not?
Again here is my law firm: http://www.bakerdonelson.com
-DespevilleI deal with London but they have US offices. Contact John Shapiro and the first consultation is on me. After that I get involved.
Sir, you are clearly out of line with the humble people who post here. You are an insufferable know it all without a wit of humility. I don't know the mind of Christ in this matter, but if He were to choose such as you over one like msjallen, then we're all lost. You smack more of a rigid Muslim than a loving Christian.
-Esteban CafeAGAIN: You should listen to men in your life and do not argue with them that you know "better" than they do for you do not.
-DespevilleI can just imagine the conversations you have had with your poor wife.
-Jeff DixonYou do not have imagine yours then… :0
-DespevilleLOL
-Esteban CafeThat you have got it. 13th Imam of atheism Dixon is usually good for a good LOL then he gets depleted really fast and becomes really mechanically and maniacally boring. That is the only reason I respond to him.
-DespevilleAll hail Despeville, his Most Inane Poster, Defender of the Delusion, Protector of the Rabbit Hole, Sovereign of the Most Ancient and Most Ignoble Order of the Big Lie, Sovereign of the Order of the Companions of Deceit, Sovereign of the Most Venerable Order of the Windbag.
-Jeff DixonHmmm imam Dixon, Phoenix and mortgage business surely did not do wonders for your literature skills.
-DespevilleYour opinion is similar to the mess my dog makes after a meal, and about as meaningful.
-Jeff DixonHe does it after every meal? You should take him to a vet.
-DespevilleOr maybe he is schizophrenic like his master? Are they shrinks for pets?
I did not say after every meal. I said after a meal. Your comprehension skills weaken as you drink your glasses of wine.
-Jeff DixonWe can discuss proper Dog Diet if you like Jeff. But first I need those sources.
-Joe AnzilottiBet ya it is from RC or Atheist site or some other rubbish.
-DespevilleHe is probably checking in his vast library Despe. It's in there somewhere.
-Joe AnzilottiHe cannot remember where he copied it from so he is doing back Googling now… I can guarantee that it was from a pile of rubbish site.
Here is a classic Joe. Save it and read it. It is a reply of Calvin to Roman Catholic bishop Sodolet who wanted schmooze Genevians to slowly become papists. It is rich:
-Despevillehttp://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/calvin_…
Again:
-Despevillehttp://bit.ly/yBrSkQ
Thanks for the data. But just remember, you can never have enough of those handy hats around!
-Joe AnzilottiJeff could be trying to find the other stuff in his "nook" or "kindle"–give him a little time. : )
You mean those pointy ones Babylonian style that those Roman impostors love so much?
The only reason he would have Kindle is to have his comic books on it hahahahahah Our dear imam.
-DespevilleYou know, I think those pointy hats should also be worn by certain CEOs and our beloved Senators and Congressman. Such symbol of authority!! I am sure that Paul had one–actually it is probably on display in some "cathedral" in Italy. You know–so you and I can worship it!
-Joe AnzilottiYea, that is a great idea. Many times they are in the bed with pope anyway so they might as well share some fashion too. Just think how great Obama would look in a Babylonian hat? It would match origins of his religion too.
-DespevilleCan you smoke and wear those pointy things?
-Joe Anzilotti"…Feeling like a dead duck
spitting out pieces of his broken luck…"
This Jethro must be about our Jethro… http://youtu.be/u1xY7Heaqg8
-DespevilleHis song Thick as a Brick is mostly certainly a good description of you two.
-Jeff DixonFunny because that is what I was going to post initially with my dedication to you imam Jethro
-DespevilleWell, better luck next time.
-Jeff DixonThat would be a problem imam. See I do not believe in luck and my dog does not either.
-Despeville'Church Age will NOT go through the Tribulation"
You mean the fifth eon of dispensationalism?
"Just because a Bible Doctrine was only discovered just so many years ago does not mean it is wrong. "
Yes it does each and every time when "discovery" is counter biblical in addition to being extra biblical as it is with so called "rapture" and as it is with majority of dispensationalism.
"There were not enough Bible scholars who knew Hebrew or Greek to discover a lot of things in the Bible because of the RCC"
That is non sequitur. It simply does not paralel to assertions of dispensationalism and you are trying to argue from silence as well. There is no biblical base for rapture if one respects the text of the Bible more than traditions of men.
"NOT adding to the Canon of Scriptures; it is explaining them."
Nope, it is MUTILATING THEM by cutting them up into a million pieces to fit in a dispensational puzzle.
-DespevilleThree possible rapture points in seven years of The Tribulation: Pre, Mid, or Post. No less than Billy Graham, in the book Approaching Hoofbeats, argues for the Pre-Trib Rapture, and if that's what he believes, who am I to think different?
-Mike_Shields"who am I to think different?"
You are Mike Shields, that's who. Billy Graham is not the final authority on any matter, biblical or otherwise. Please don't fall prey to such hermeneutical laziness.
-EricKalev ,,,, I have read many versions including Aramaic Peshitta.com and none state Mt 24. 9 says deliver you to tribulation
-Pastor DwayneYes after "the only true" Peshitta as asserted by all wild eye Pentecostals and the fact that the earliest manuscripts of Peshitta are from the 5th century does not matter. Sensation and mystery is so much cooler and grasping more attention… Ugh.
-DespevilleNew American Standard 1995 updated does, that's the Bible I use for study.
-KalevGod's wrath is for the unjust.
-tbone"Rapture Theology: The Arrogance of the West" ~ http://youtu.be/_NMNuhNjfik
-DespevilleSecular humanism at work in that clock.
-KalevIt is merely a clock face. There is nothing working in it at all.
-Jeff DixonI know that Jeff, typical Secular Humanism was what my comment was based on.
-Kalevmatt 24 does not discredit the pre-trib rapture and is not the only text on the matter. but you can stay if you like. the rapture is not actually the 1 minute mark but the 7 year mark…as far as the clock…..whatever….
-jomama"Rapture Theology: The Arrogance of the West" ~ http://youtu.be/_NMNuhNjfik
-Despevillejamama, correct. As for me I cannot see the point of disagreement on this matter. HIS WORD also tells us that "now you see darkly as through glass darkly, then we shall see face to face. I believer our appointment is, to live the best we can according to HIS teachings and how we understand them.HE will do the rest. We will never agree, on everything, as a whole, in this lifetime.
-MyrtlelinderThere is NO such thing as the "rapture;" this is the fiction of the the Left Behind Series authors and people bought into that fallacy as if it were gospel. The so-called 'rapture' is nothing but hogwash.
-CJMAnd even a Mormon like you sees this. Why can't you see the same falsehood about your polytheistic religion just as well made up by man as "rapture theology" is?
-Despeville"And they shall strain at a gnat and swallow a camel." Just be ready in either case.
-ShagnassyThere is no doomsday or doomsday prediction. There is only God's timetable and that not counted in human measures of time. We need to get back to Christian ideals and live like Christians. This is being said by a retired Chemist who actually accomplished a few things in his lifetime and I would add "with God's help".
-PaulGlobal Warming has been proven a hoax. Get it out of there. As far as world destruction is concerned….Man should not be so arrogant to think he can destroy what God has made. God will decide what to do with this Earth….Period!!
-WoolfyIf global warming only affected the people who do not believe it, I could almost laugh at what you say.
Research some more and you may awaken to the truth.
-davesIf we aren't going to go thru the tribulation then why does He tell us NOT to take the mark of the beast? As far as the artticle goes the Bible says no man knows the hour -not even the angels in heaven know when that day will happen- only God knows the exact time and day He will come.
-ShagnassyExcellent observation, one of the many cites that leads me away from the pre-trib view to the post-trib view.
-KalevOnly God the Father knows when God the Son will return and in the mean time lets allow God the Holy Spirit lead us into all truths; after all that's whe He was sent by the Father in the name of the Son. (Tri-unity not Trinity.)
"…after all that's whe He was sent by the Father in the name of the Son. (Tri-unity not Trinity.)"
Another heresy by a Judaizers… God the Holy Spirit is not an errand boy Kalev and your Judaizing took you completely out to woods and now you deny Triune God to be bona fide
certified heretic as you always been. "tri-unity" is a henotheistic false teaching. Yes,look that up…
-DespevilleWell you are a cerified bozo and I believe many here would agree. I do not deny the Triune God just the false doctrine of the Trinity, another product of the RCC the Reformers adopted.
-KalevKalev,
I wonder what you see as the difference between a Triune God and the Tri-Unity (Trinity) of God.
Would love for you to present what you only hinted at.
-PaulHe is a quasi henotheist influenced by Judaism who denies Trinity and affirms some form of pagan Triad.
-Despeville"I do not deny the Triune God just the false doctrine of the Trinity"
Another oxymoron sweat job by a Judaizer.
-DespevilleMoses altar boy Caleb,
One more time in case you really want to play. Here is my law firm: http://www.bakerdonelson.com
-DespevilleI deal with their office in Londonistan but they have US offices.
All you have to is schedule a consultation with John Shapiro and the first one is on me.
After that I get involved.
Those who have heard the Gospel, but have not believed. They will be the ones left behind and will know from the happenings that the Bible is true and then do believe – they are the ones instructed to not take the mark of the beast.
-PeggyShagnassy, the time of the Gentiles is complete when Christ catches up all who belong to Him. At that time the final "week of years" begins. The world is given its final opportunity to repent, and Israel – the true Israel, not just those who claim a physical birthright of being Jewish – will see and receive their Messiah. Those that are alive and will go through the tribulation, that is Israel and those who don't yet belong to Christ when he raptures His church, are told what to expect, and commanded not to take the mark of the beast.
Re-read the Book and you will be better informed.
-PaulThat 'doomsday clock' might have some very small significance except for the statement: " it has also been representing climate-changing technologies and “new developments in the life sciences that could inflict irrevocable harm.” By using the ridiculous 'global warming' theory, the scientists have moved the hands of time closer to their imaginary end of world fiasco. Besides, God has no intention of destroying the earth…says so in the OT and He wasn't referring to the great flood either.
-CJMI guess you missed these scriptures:
-PaulPsa 102:25-26 KJV Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands. They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:
Isa 34:4 KJV And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
Isa 51:6 KJV Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
Hag 2:6 KJV For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land;
Heb 12:26-29 KJV Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: For our God is a consuming fire.
2Pe 3:7 KJV But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2Pe 3:10 KJV But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:12 KJV Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Jesus Christ controls history…
-msjallenI Cor 10:26 FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S, AND ALL IT CONTAINS.
Col 1:17 He is before all things and in Him all things hold together.
2 Peter 3:7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the Day of Judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
HEBREWS 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
HEBREWS 1:10 And, "YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;
Ah yes, we have reset the clock once before, dodged coments and meteors, made it thru world wars, Y2K, natural disasters and are awaiting the Mayan Prophecy. Like the algore GW scam no one knows which way the mayan calendar will go but there is one way to find out….wait and see.
-ONTIMEThe pundits, prophets and soothsayers are touted by politicians and con artist and we are constantly debating pure nonsense, we also pay out a lot of monies proving them to be the opportunist they always are. I suppose it's the lemming complex the human race is saddled with that allows this syndrome to be in constant use, we humans are a unsettled bunch and I suppose that is why we reach beyond or means and stress what few talents we possess.
If we do happen to reach our final destiny as some predict I can tell you I will not stand in the way or tell anyone how to dress for the occassion…..my promise to my fellow beings.
Kalev: You believe how you want and I will follow the dictates of my religious teachings….and NONE are erroneous. And FYI: The Rev 21 states that John saw the "new heaven and an new earth, for the old one had disappeared…" As you can see, it did not "pass away" as in death. The reason I do not belong to any religious affiliate is because folks pick and choose what they want from the Bible to prove a point and in the process distort the true meaning of the scripture. In research, it's called "Making the theory fit" and this notion contaminates the study. Yes, God's refusal to destroy the earth is in Genesis….and I believe it is mentioned later in another book.
-CJMAnother? Like Pearl of Great Price or Book of Mormon?
-DespevilleThe NASU has "passed away" in that passage and it seems to agree with one of the Hebrew/ Greel lexicons in my study library.
-KalevDo you actually know how to use them? Those lexicons?
-DespevilleNo, just more nonsense from your lying mouth.
-Jeff DixonLOL put those comic books away Imam.
-DespevilleCase in point. Thank you for being consistent.
-Jeff DixonImam Dixon,
Tells us how rich, good, assured, happy, sighted, well clothed you are…
-DespevilleHere is a good example of my point that you are unwilling to admit to making a mistake.
Despeville • 15 weeks ago
Yes schizoid you want to "correct" everybody with your foolishness but you will not and cannot correct yourself which is typical for schizoids.
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Umm, wrong again. I actually did correct myself when I posted an incorrect statement about numbers. So, will you correct yourself now that I have once again shown you to be wrong????
Of course not. We both know you are incapable of admitting a mistake even when it is staring you in the face.
You are a sham.
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Despeville • 15 weeks ago
Schizo your hope is in Mark 1:15
http://zionica.com/2011/09/16/moody-network-stati…
-Jeff DixonSo your point is that you have admitted being wrong about mathematics and Islam? Yes you did. That's among other things in hundreds that you will not admit but how is any of that proves any of your injured ego rant about me or Joe. It does not I who cares any way? You are so incredibly boring and such a miser.
-Despevillelol. You just got done saying you can admit when you are wrong. I showed you would not when it was right in front of you. And true to form, you ignore it.
-Jeff DixonImam Dixon,
You have corrected yourself and admitted to your ignorance twice for hundreds and hundreds of canards you plaster this site with. Yes, that is a good start. Is that changing the fact that you are utterly ignorant most of the time? No it does not.
-DespevilleOf course I make mistakes. And I own up to them. What I have shown is that you are unwilling to own up to yours, contrary to your statement above and in complete agreement with my comment about you.
As usual, you just continue to ignore your mistake.
It shows your complete lack of interiority.
-Jeff DixonThat should have been integrity
-Jeff DixonYou would not know what integrity is if it would chain itself to you for a year… Subprimes should be a first clue.
-DespevilleI have never worked for a subprime lender. Just another invention on your part. I said I was a mortgage broker. They offer more than subprime. Not that you care about truth.
-Jeff DixonSure dixi and you were not doing sub primes…
-DespevilleWho do you think you are mumbling too? I know financial services very well and I know people in your pipeline too and know it insight out.
I have always concentrated on FHA loans. People in my pipeline? What does that mean?
-Jeff DixonBusiness space… that's what.
-DespevilleAlways is a long word Dixi.
People in my pipeline is business space? People and business space are two different things, Humpty. Are you hitting the wine early again?
-Jeff DixonI seriouslu doubt you have an MBA even if from a crappy school… People do operate in business space, or sector or specific market etc., etc. etc.
-DespevilleAnd you were in a really scummy space Schizoid. Very few honest operators.
You can doubt it all you like, however, I have one. I received it in 2002 from the The University of Phoenix.
But I am sure you will now continue to lie about that as well. One thing I have come to depend on you is that you have no reservations about lying.
-Jeff DixonHa, party school… That explains it all. I hope you did not do it on line in the 90s.
-DespevilleDid you not see that I said I graduated in 2002? But no, it was not online, I took evening classes.
Hardly a party school, or if it was it was nothing I participated in. I worked all day and took evening courses.
-Jeff Dixon" I worked all day and took evening courses."
And fort that I can do no other but applaud you and respect that no matter how crappy school it was.
-DespevillePeople get out of their education what they put into it.
But you can keep your applause, especially since you were compelled to throw a dig into the statement when you made it.
-Jeff DixonIt is not a dig imam. It is well know crappy party school. I am sorry but that is the opinion out there.
-DespevilleYou do not know much then. I attended the school in Orange County, CA. They have multiple sites all over the USA. It is not a college like Duke or Harvard with one primary location.
-Jeff DixonYikes! I got lost in all this.
-Esteban CafeNo, you got lost before all of it and you just show that.
-DespevilleThe clock was a product of ATOMIC SCIENCE. Climatology is NOT atomic science.
It's depressing to see the lower sciences realpoliticking their way into the higher sciences and dictating their practice. The professional physics community should be ashamed of themselves right now.
-JayThe clock has no real purpose other than to hype up the idiots desire to prove to the world that they know something…NOT
-Don RushingZionica Administrators, how long are you going to allow Despeville to continue to post his degenerative and vicious personal attacks on people here, just look at this blog and the many instances he has done so. I can agree to disagree with anyone without making such tasteless and abusive attacks on anyon. That's Despeville modus operandi, attack and viciously abuse, a religious bully.
-KalevDespeville is entitled to both his opinion and his voice.
-PaulUse the opportunity to give a defense for the hope that is within you, the hope that comes from faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
I have no problem with his opinion and voice, it' the tone of viciousness and his bullying ways that I have a problem with. He needs to tone it done and not act not the biblical and spiritual overlord and he is disrepecrful of others opinion and voice. Quit the personal attacks on those he disagrees with.
-KalevI understand what you are implying, I do my best but some people are way over the top.
"… the hope that comes from faith in the Lord Jesus Christ."
Paul,
In case you have not followed Kalev's opinions he cannot do that. He cannot for his hope is divided between Moses and Christ if not hanging more on Moses and law side and his works in the name of law and law fulfillment sake.
-DespevilleZionica Administrators, Paul and Kalev,
No, in fact you do have lots of problems with what I am saying here for it debunks and demolishes your Mosaic Law works pseudo righteousness which you proselytize here and elsewhere too. Not once you attempted to address biblical arguments presented to you for you have no substance to do so. Instead each and every time you attack my person and character which is a standard response from an indoctrinated person not able and not willing to engage in factual discussion.
Here is a sample and juxtaposition of your serial and irrational dichotomies, slander and misrepresentations:
"He needs to tone it done and not act not the biblical and spiritual overlord and he is disrepecrful of others opinion and voice."
~ Kalev
"Thanks Jeff for tying up that idiot Despeville…'
~Kalev
In my humble opinion Despeville is a true slime-ball."
~ Kalev
I think every reasonable and sane person can see and that would include Administrators that in fact you Kalev are disrespectful and the opposite of being humble. You are all about vain talk and empty words but no substance in terms of what you claim for your self and your sect. We all can loose it and I certainly do as well from time to time but the thing is that "loosing it" is a norm for you as you have absolutely no other way or means to respond to my arguments which demolish your Judaizing spin you promote here.
-DespevilleYou mean losing it.
-Jeff DixonNo, I meant calender…
-DespevillePossibly, it is often difficult to know what you are babbling about.,
-Jeff DixonBlind cannot see even when he is convinced that he can. You have an ontological issue Imam Dixon.
-DespevilleDid you forget that he also called you a "cerified bozo"?
-bighossThe earth is 24,000 miles around, 4 thousand miles to the core, the deepest we have drilled is a 2" hole 5 miles deep, we have parts of the ocean we haven't explored, yet men are arrogant enough to believe they can change the climate? Just more proof, the wisdom of man is foolishness to God.
-js1019I think the "Doomsday Clock" was made in China. Does anyone see anything wrong with that?
-Joe AnzilottiI do. All kinds of wrongs.
-DespevilleThis article is a fine example of the type of rubbish that has entrapped our nation in a sort of downward spiral.
-Joe AnzilottiIt began with a concern about some type of nuclear cataclysm, this purported timekeeping device, now it is down to the cattle passing gas in NZ and that evil SUV that everyone is paying for. As if God somehow is unable to appropriately care for His creation–like He needs help in order to proceed! Can we get some more blankets on those there glaciers?
I was in New Zealand quite recently Joe and I can assure you that cattle was fine and Zealanders too.
-DespevilleYou right it is mostly make believe yet Al Gore skimmed few hundred million for him self from this scam and his "green" (for $) hedge fund.
The most that I can do is help finance those blankets for those poor glaciers in Austria Despe!
-Joe AnzilottiShagnassy….. In your referencing " To Not take the mark of the beast " . The true meaning of that statement is to worship the man made day, which is the first day of the week (Sunday) and follow what a man has said to do. To not receive the mark of the beast is to worship on the day that God and His Son created, the seventh day of the week (Saturday). It also pertains to your thoughts (in your mind) , working with your hands on His Sabbath Day (Saturday) , and having God's law written in your heart (the 10 Commandments) .
-GramWritten like a true-blue sabbatarian, but with nothing but your opinion to back it up.
-bighossGood Night.
-DespevilleYou guys are going to have me crying in a bit here! Geesh
-Joe AnzilottiHey, I cannot be mean, nasty, terrible Calvinist all the time Joe.
-DespevilleI have feeling too you know.
Got to do some stuff.
Jethro? http://youtu.be/u1xY7Heaqg8
Jeff actually worries me–i don't think he has any feelings sometimes. Do you worry about him that way too? : )
-Joe AnzilottiNo I do not Joe. Rather, if any I would do about his family or neighbors. He has certain psychotic tendencies but it hard to say for sure.
-DespevilleWhether it is hard or not to know will not prevent you from saying it anyway. More false accusations. Your getting more boring than usual, Humpty.
-Jeff DixonImam Dixon I have my reasons. I actually worked with a psychopath but he was a Jehovah Witness which made it even worse.
-DespevilleSo what is your with your oscillation between Bible and Bungee?
Many psychopaths have religious backgrounds. That is very true. Which is why I am glad you are not my neighbor.
-Jeff DixonI wonder if your neighbors find it funny that a woman almost died in a bungee accident as you do which prompt you to post is a "little fun" on your blog… More importantly I wonder if they would find it funny that you do…
-DespevilleSince I did not say it was funny, your post merely shows you desperately trying to make more false statements.
-Jeff DixonI posted it to show the dangers of bungee jumping, which I already explained. You are pathological.
-Jeff DixonNope, you described this accident that could easily end in woman's death as "fun"…. I think Joe saw something that I did not see until now. Wow.
-DespevilleOh please. I know you try your hardest to make me out to be what you actually are, but now you are just getting idiotic.
-Jeff DixonNo, I just want to hear from you what you find funny or fun about this terrifying ordeal of this woman. You post it and you described to me as "fun"… Those are facts Jeff.
-DespevilleDo your neighbors know of your propensity to burst out in maniacal laughter?
-Jeff DixonDid you hear me Jeff? Wow. Do you hear that in your head?
-DespevilleShare please… I was about to go but this is interesting now.
Of course I do not hear you. I have read your multiple posts where that occurs. I have pointed it out to you before. This is hardly the first time you have seen it posted.
-Jeff DixonSo if you read it how do you assume what my neighbors hear? Or is reading and hearing the same for you?
-DespevilleI have no idea what your neighbors hear. That is why I asked you if they knew.
Once again, your comprehension skills are slipping.
-Jeff DixonYou asserted Dixon and not really asked. So do you hear voices in your head? If so then how many?
-DespevilleIf you are incapable of comprehending an answer, it really makes no difference how many times I repeat it.
-Jeff DixonUnless they lived in XIX century England. Plymouth exactly then yes…
-DespevilleDwayne have you discovered any more secret editions of Peshitta?
Humpty, this is the only defintion of business space that i have seen so far. Hardly the way you tried to present it. You seem to be making up your own definitions of words again.
-Jeff DixonA business space is a collection of related Web content that provides you with insight into your business and the capability to react to changes in it.
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/dmndhelp…