Landmark ruling for religion from Supreme Court

Religious organizations won a landmark victory Wednesday as the Supreme Court held that churches have the right to make employment decisions free from government interference over discrimination laws.

In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court endorsed for the first time the “ministerial exception” to state and federal employment discrimination laws while rejecting the Obama administration’s argument that churches should be treated no differently than other employers.

“The interest of society in the enforcement of employment discrimination statutes is undoubtedly important. But so too is the interest of religious groups in choosing who will preach their beliefs, teach their faith, and carry out their mission,” said Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., who wrote the court’s 39-page opinion.

“When a minister who has been fired sues her church alleging that her termination was discriminatory, the First Amendment has struck the balance for us,” Chief Justice Roberts said. “The church must be free to choose those who will guide it on its way.”

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http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland

Thank you Supreme Court and the secular Constitution that provided for finite supreme court justices to decide differently, had they so decided! Hello! Time for Christians to wake up to what's been done to us by this non-Christian, unbiblical, humanistic, polytheistic promoting contract, which established a government of, by, and for the people instead of one of, by, and for Yahweh.

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- http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
  
  Ted,
  
  You promote a false name for God i.e. "Yahweh"… I told you that you blapsheme God every single time you do so and worst os that you encourage others to do the same all with your assertion of being a pastor… You might be one but that does not mean that you tell the truth or that you should be one.
  
  Educate yourself about God's true name of YHVH which you so abuse, misrepresent and butcher repeatedly and despite all of the warnings and evidence for your errors.
  
  Hebrew For Christians: "Unutterable Name" – which you utter in your ignorant error not taking seriously the warning of James 3:1
  
  LINK: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/YHV…
  - http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland
    
    Unutterable? Book, chapter and verse please. The only place you will find this is in traditions of elders (Matthew 15:7-9), which circa 500 AD were codified into what today we know as the Babylonian Talmud, and which effectively negates Yahweh's commands – such as, in this instance, the numerous places where we're told to utter (declare, swear by, praise, etc.) So, Despeville, which is it going to be, the blasphemous traditions of the Talmud or the Word of God.
    - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
      
      Ted,
      
      As usual you evade, manipulate to deceive in the end. There are other reasons for YHVH to be unutterable besides Jewish piety like the factual and real reason that NONE KNOWS TODAY HOW TO PRONOUNCE IT.
      
      Can you grasp that historical and linguistic fact and kick your straw men of Jewish traditions just to avoid this factual and serious charge against your blasphemy? Not to mention a total falsehood of your idolatrous "Yahweh" starting with an obvious fact that there is no "w" in Hebrew…
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland
        
        So Jewish traditions (Matthew 15:7-9) are actually Jewish piety? I've got a sneaking suspicion that's not how Yahweh sees it.
        
        And so you're trying to tell everyone here that Yahweh commanded us to do something impossible? By your same standards, it would also be impossible to pronounce Christ's given Hebrew name with which He introduced Himself to Paul in Acts 26:13-14 or any other Hebrew name in the Old Testament.
        
        I think I will go with Yahweh's commands rather than Despeville's parroting of Jewish traditions, which were condemned by Christ.
      - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
        
        A.
        Jewish traditions nor piety IS NOT what I addressed and affirmed and that is YHVH. You spinning that as you do is nothing else but a crude straw man evasion and your suspicions are equally meaningless and useless for the actual topic of your "Yahweh" versus YHVH and for anything else as well. Matthew 15:7-9 has absolutely nothing to do with THE FACT THAT NONE KNOWS HOW TO UTTER YHVH today but everything with your red herrings evasions and manipulations.
        
        B.
        And so you're trying to tell everyone here that Yahweh commanded us to do something impossible?"
        That is typical cultist manipulation known as argumentum ex silentio or arguing from silence of void. A favorite of Mormons or Roman Catholics for example.
        
        C.
        You do not know how God introduced Himself to Paul in Acts 26:13-14. As far as I know you were not there or were you? What we do have and that is Greek manuscripts and their text does not support your wild eye assertion for all we have in Acts 26:13-14 is βασιλευ – King or Majesty which is not the same as "Yahweh" by any sane person standard and definitively not YHVH either.
        
        So scrapping your straw man of Jewish traditions and red herrings of assigning them to me which you use to cover up the fact that YOU HAVE ZERO OF ANY FACTUAL SUBSTANCE TO SUPPORT your man made name of "Yahweh" which is a nothing but your idolatrous man made tradition dated to XVI century and butchery of YHVH by Roman Catholic monks can you actually present anything of SUBSTANCE and on the TOPIC of proving your "Yahweh"? How about you start with explaining for us "w" in your "Yahweh" which does not exist in Hebrew? Can you actually say anything of substance?
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland
        
        A. It's a Jewish tradition that you called Jewish piety and, therefore, Matthew 15:7-9 has everything to do with what you've said. And, as usual, being opposed to Yahweh's law as you are, you've chosen Jewish tradition over the Word of God
        
        B. Although I'm not at all surprised, with this one you've just identified yourself. Numerous times in the Old Testament, Yahweh instructs us to verbalize His name in a number of different ways (as pointed out in my previous response) and, from Biblical silence, you say it can't be done. Thank you for identifying yourself as a cultist.
        
        C. Did you even read the passage, you certainly didn't read my statement. In verse 14 we're told that Christ spoke to Paul in Hebrew and that He introduced Himself to Paul as Jesus, which is the English transliteration of Iesous, the Greek transliteration of Yeshua.
      - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
        
        A. "t's a Jewish tradition that you called Jewish piety and, therefore, Matthew 15:7-9 has everything to do with what you've said. And, as usual,"
        
        DECEPTION…
        
        DO YOU YOU HAVE ANY FACTUAL SCRIPTURAL, HISTORICAL OR LINGUISTIC SUBSTANCE TO SUPPORT your man made name of "Yahweh" ???????????????????????????????????????
        
        "as usual, being opposed to Yahweh's law as you are, you've chosen Jewish tradition over the Word of God
        
        LIE and you should be ASHAMED of yourself Sir and how you bring to gutter the office that you supposedly hold over some poor people…
        
        B.
        "Numerous times in the Old Testament, Yahweh instructs us to verbalize His name in a number of different ways (as pointed out in my previous response) and, from Biblical silence, you say it can't be done."
        
        NONE SANE IS INTERESTED IN WHAT "CAN'T BE DONE". We are interested where it was done as you lie that "Yahweh" is numerous or imply that lie. The canon is CLOSED and not subject to your speculations. PROOF PLEASE.
        
        "Thank you for identifying yourself as a cultist. "
        Stupefying parroting and a lie. I do not import into the Word what "can be done"… You and every cultist does. Case point Roman Catholics who do exactly same as you do. SHAME ON YOU.
        
        C.
        "In verse 14 we're told that Christ spoke to Paul in Hebrew and that He introduced Himself to Paul as Jesus, which is the English transliteration of Iesous, the Greek transliteration of Yeshua."
        
        LIE AGAIN. "ME" is not Yeshua in Aramaic, or Hebrew or any other language and that is what Christ said as inspired text of the Bible states:
        
        "When we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting ME? You are hurting yourself by kicking against the goads."
        ~ Acts 26:14
        
        You read into Biblical "ME" your man made traditions as every cultist does. You trample Biblical text for teh sake of your XVI century Roman Catholic man made up name of "Yahweh". Furthermore, even if your lies and abuse of the Word was true which is not Yeshua is not "Yahweh" not in a million years.
        
        So the serious question and charge still stands:
        
        DO YOU YOU HAVE ANY FACTUAL SCRIPTURAL, HISTORICAL OR LINGUISTIC SUBSTANCE TO SUPPORT your man made name of "Yahweh" ???????????????????????????????????????
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland
        
        I think you already know this but the name by which Christ introduced Himself is in Verse 15 – and with that, time is far too precious to waste any more with you.
      - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
        
        You refereed to verse 14 before and that is why I responded to that verse.
        Meaningless again because Yeshua is not your "Yahweh". You asset that but that is a big, filthy LIE.
        
        So go ahead claim "lack of time" :) or your inflated ego superiority but the fact is that you gave ZERO substance for your extra and counter scriptural blasphemous "Yehowah" as you do not for the rest of your sin, death and condemnation preaching….
        
        You are a dangerous deceiver and a liar Ted,
      - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
        
        "pastor" Weiland,
        
        In the Bible as translated in NASB for example "God" is used 4963 times. "Lord" is used 8216 times. Show us ONE and I say again ONE USAGE that would support your made up "Yahweh"… And if you cannot it is time to face the proven reality that you do not teach this from the Bible which is extremely dangerous and troubling given that we are talking the name of its author…
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Could you then help your "pro" for all he can do with this one is trying to ride away on his high horse or rather mute donkey…
        If I am so "uninformed" then please break my bliss and show me which ONE AND SPECIFIC place in entirety of the Bible is a sure proof for your cultist name of "Yahweh"?
        
        It is that simple… ONE QUOTE of that 'name" please. Or are you going to jump on Teddy's mute donkey too?
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        "YHWH, most often pronounced Yahweh, is the English transliteration2 of the Tetragrammaton, the four Hebrew letters representing God’s name. God’s Holy Spirit inspired the Tetragrammaton to appear in the Old Testament 6,823 times. Why then can we not find it in our common English versions? An abbreviated form appears at the end of hallelujah, which translates “praise ye Yah,” and at the end of numerous Hebrew names – when spelled correctly. But these exceptions are not sufficient to render due honor to God’s name.
        On their own volition, the English translators replaced God’s name with uninspired titles and, occasionally, with the false name “Jehovah.” No translator has the right to remove or replace God’s inspired words – much less God's inspired name – regardless of how lofty the excuse:
        …what is his [God’s] name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell? Every word of God is pure…. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:4-6)
        This is precisely what most English translators have done. They have taken away and added to God’s Word by replacing His personal name with the capital letters “LORD” and “GOD” or with the counterfeit name “Jehovah.”
        When they perverted the Hebrew text, the English translators broke the Third Commandment by making God’s name vain, or of none effect. The word “vain,” as found in the Third Commandment, is translated from the Hebrew word (shav). William Gesenius defined it in part as: “emptiness, nothingness, vanity … worthlessness.”3 It is the same word translated “false” in the Ninth Commandment:
        “Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.” (Deuteronomy 5:20)
        We are not to use God’s name falsely or bear false witness to it by replacing it with titles and other substitutions. "
        
        Source: http://www.missiontoisrael.org/sacred-name.php
        
        Teddy, what you wrote here about "Jehovah" can be stated just the same about your made up name of "Yahweh" …. You have absolutely no leg to stand on for denying false "Jehovah" while asserting equally false "Yahweh". Nothing but your personal preference for particular tradition of men.
        
        Yo do not even have a proper understanding of tetragrammaton. It is YHVH and not "YHWH" because YHVH stands for Yud-Hey-Vav-Hey and English "w' is false and wrong in your assertion.
      - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
        
        "pastor" Ted,
        
        I am still waiting for Scriptural, historical, linguistic or ANY KIND of proof for your "Yahweh" pseudo name…
        Can you deliver ANYTHING in that sense?
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        So you "know" but you cannot give me ONE SCRIPTURAL PROOF and neither can your mute donkey master "pro" Teddy? Hmmm. I am truly amazed at the depth of your Scholarship Adventist boys…
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Myrtleblinder,
        
        You need to speed up deleting your comments before I can see them…
      - Myrtlelinder
        
        No offense, I don't care if you see them, I just hate offend other people by putting such trash before them.
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        I would agree that what you put up is nothing but rubbish.
        Are you going to produce ONE reference to your made up "Yahweh" or rubbish is all you got?
  - Dntmkmecmoverther
    
    Desp, can you explain to us how you get the tetra of YH'v'H? The second letter of the tetra is 'he' followed by 'waw' which is pronounced like our English 'v'. But the correct spelling would be to utilize 'waw' (w).
  - Myrtlelinder
    
    Get informed, despeville. You are only reading the Bible written in English. Go to the original language, If you can read Hebrew and Greek you will find " YAHWEH" is the correct name. Don't accuse people of knowing what they are talking about, when you are the one that is misinformed, makes you look bad.
    - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
      
      I will not claim that I am a "pro" but I do study Hebrew and Greek so would you please share with me your profound and deep knowledge of those languages and QUOTE ONE SCRIPTURE where we find name "Yahweh"…
      That would also take so much less of your time and effort than you making these bogus pronouncements of yours.
      
      As far as looks, last time I looked in the mirror I looked really good.
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        Why would you making a comment like that?
        
        But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
        
        I Samuel 16:7
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Blind man try to see what is in Mark 1:15 if seeing is given to you.
http://www.OnlyWay.com David McElroy

God's Ten Commandments still stand. Governments presuming to authority to impose more than God's Law are tyranny, and upholding any less than God's Law is negligence. God's Law is sublimely adequate for all occasions, natural and logical. Evil therefore seeks to obscure, confuse, denigrate and obliterate God's Law, which Christ reminded us is based in love. See Matthew 22:35-40 for Christ addressing a lawyer about the law.
- http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
  
  "God's Law is sublimely adequate for all occasions, natural and logical."
  
  Certainly not "all occasions"… I can give you one and the biggest that not only law is not adequate but the opposite to it.
  That would be a salvation of a sinner before Holy God – Adonai El Elyon.
  Not only law is useless for salvation but it condemns and kills a sinner before Tsidkeinu – Lord of Righteousness
  Anyone who promotes law as a way of "salvation" or formed faith for salvation or any addition to true salvation by Grace Alone is in fact a purveyor of sin, death and condemnation and a servant of the great accuser of brethren – satan himslef.
- daves
  
  They may still stand but they are not longer obeyed.
  
  "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a Sabbath to The Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates; for in six days The Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore The Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it."
http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland

David, I know that you no more promote Yahweh's law as means of salvation, justification, or redemption than I do, and everyone (except perhaps Despeville) understood that you were not suggesting otherwise. However, a comment declaring this to Despeville will probably not satisfy him anymore than mine did. He's so despises Yahweh's morality as found in His commandments, statutes, and judgments and so determined to pigeonhole anyone who loves Yahweh's morality and law that he is unable to accept anything from anyone to the contrary that he's already pigeonholed. He will likely falsely accuse you as a Judaizer, as he has me.
- http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
  
  Another lame personal attack and and ZERO of SUBSTANCE proving your idolatrous "Yahweh"… How typically cultist like…
  Christian Faith is not about MORALITY and man's ascendance to it or idea of it. That is an essence of very false religion in the world, including perverted Judaism which you largely proselytize and represent. Christian Faith is complete trust in Jesus Christ and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and HIS FULFILLMENT of the law as none else ever did, does or will fulfill the law. Ted you teaching the law at the expense of the truth makes you the teacher of sin, death, and condemnation which you are regardless how clueless you are about biblical role of law in light of Grace.
  
  Repent from your idolatrous Judaizing and trusting in your works under Moses.
  - http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland
    
    David, see what I mean? Trust me, this "tar baby" ain't worth the effort.
    - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
      
      Platitude and your attitude is not of any altitude "pastor" Ted a proselytizer of sin, death and condemnation and an enemy of the Gospel.
    - Myrtlelinder
      
      You said it, Ted, this is one you might as well give up on. I believe Desperate, knows but loves a silly, uneducated argument.
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Again, more platitude and attitude assertions but zero of substance.
        Are you guys from some Nebraska pulled ignorance study group?
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Myrtleblinder,
        
        Are you going to educate me a bit? ONE SCRIPTURAL REFERENCE showing your "Yahweh"
        Surely, it cannot be that hard to quote if it is there?
  - Dntmkmecmoverther
    
    If you look at Exodus 3; the calling of Moses you will see in the original Hebrew the tetragrammaton of YHWH. When God says 'I am that I am'. Eyah asher ayah we record that phrase as YHWH and we add the vowel points to get the correct pronunciation during English translation. Any Hebrew Lexicon will confirm this.
    - http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
      
      "we add the vowel points to get the correct pronunciation during English translation."
      
      We do not get a 'correct" pronunciation by adding anything and by any stretch of imagination. We get corruption.
      And Ted knows this and denies "Jehowah" for the very same reasons his "Yahweh" should be denied as well.
      I would not be even bringing this up but he is so hypocritical about his denounciation of "Jehowah" due to the same problems with his self affirmed "Yahweh"
      
      Read here: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/YHV…
    - http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland
      
      As consistent as ever, Despeville, misrepresents my position.
      
      Being that she is a purveyor of a Jewish tradition (condemned by Christ in Matthew 15:7-9) that in contradiction to Yahweh's word claims that His name is "unutterable" or unpronounceable, I wonder what she does with the word "hallelu Yah"? I guess she just refuses to praise Yah or to vocalize His name in numerous other ways we are commanded to throughout His word. I wonder what she does with all of the Old Testament Hebrew names which include the abbreviated name Yah (e.g., Isaiyah, Jeremiyah)? I would just love to hear her read the Bible out loud.
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Who is she "pastor" Teddy?
        Nice parroting of my terms. Can you come up with something on your own Teddy?
        You are a crude manipulator Teddy and you bluffing like none else does in Scottsbluff or entire Nebraska…
        "Hallelu Yah" , "Yah" is not your Roman Catholic whipped "Yahweh"… First year student of Hebrew at any average seminary will tell you that "pastor" Teddy. Perhaps you need to revisit some seminary or maybe even go there for the first time in your life so you want be lying and misrepresenting God and His name as you do.
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Teddy,
        
        I am still waiting for Scriptural, historical, linguistic or ANY KIND of proof for your "Yahweh" pseudo name…
        Can you deliver ANYTHING in that sense?
        
        "Hallelu Yah" , "Yah" is not it. Stop beating around the bushes Teddy. Just admit you have no biblical support for your made up name.
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        lol. This is really just too funny. I appreciate you all.
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        I have to agree with you at this point Imam Dixon… :)
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Lemme guess you move around in Seventh Day Adventist Cult squared circles?
      - Myrtlelinder
        
        N, I am not, connected to the Seventh Adventist Church but they, just like you and I, have the right to believe what they please. If you want ot condemn be sure you know what your are talking about
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Thanks for attention to "you" and that would be me. I appreciate that but do not need that actually.
        That is not what I am asking mute donkey pro rider.
        I am asking for ONE SCRIPTURAL PROOF reference that would show your cultist "Yahweh"
        Now can you deliver that or no?
        
        YES or NO it is that simple.
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Myrtleblinder,
        
        As far as this canard: " just like you and I, have the right to believe what they please."
        Just want to let you know that God's truth and kingdom is not a democracy where you pick
        and chose. The fact that God is described as King of kings and Lord of lords should give you a clue.
        That would also indicate that God is not elected president not can you vote for His truth or agenda.
        So in summary you are dead wrong. Neither you, nor Adventist boys nor papists nor me have a true right to what we please.
      - Myrtlelinder
        
        GOD is above even you!!!!
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Indeed very much so as I am a rotten sinner in need of His grace but how is this having anything to do with your inability to show us in the Bible made up name "Yahweh"?
- http://bit.ly/tacnDN Despeville
  
  "pastor" Weiland,
  
  In the Bible as translated in NASB for example "God" is used 4963 times. "Lord" is used 8216 times.
  Show us ONE and I say again ONE USAGE that would support your made up "Yahweh"…
  And if you cannot it is time to face the proven reality that you do not teach this from the Bible which is
  extremely dangerous and troubling given that we are talking the name of its author…
  - victorbarney
    
    Thought that I'd join this conversation a little: Hebrew is the ONLY Spiritual language(Zeph. 3:9, Acts 26:14, 1 Cor. 4:6), NOT EVEN GREEK, let alone Latin or English is set-apart! Furthermore, "Jesus" is a greek word, and the closest meaning in Hebrew is "horse" and I don't think so! However, I do know that "Jesus" represents "Zues," which was Ancient Greece's highest deity and that also is against the 3rd Commandment. Also, God(Gawd) is the Babylonian deity of good luck, and just mentioning his name is condemmed! Finally, Yahweh can be pronounced, so that also is just more misinformation. Just saying…
    - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
      
      "Yahweh can be pronounced, so that also is just more misinformation. Just saying…"
      
      I think you meant YHVH and if so provide Scriptural, historical, linguistic or any other support for that pronunciation or utterance, specifically for "Yahweh" if you support it . And if so your support of "w' in it which does not exist in Hebrew and never did.
      - victorbarney
        
        I'm not a Jacob O. Meyer follower because he never kept the true calender, thus missed required Annual Sabbaths routinely, but his book entitled "THE MEMORIAL NAME YAHWEH" explains it all requarding the NAME and exactly WHY it is W and not V in YAHWEH. Just saying…
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Calender? Dixon, did you talk with Victor?
        Victor, I appreciate the reference to the book of yours but I would kindly suggest that we stay with the only one that truly matters and that is the Bible. So could you tell me and point me to ONE place from over 13,000 where the NASB translation provides "GOD" and "LORD" as your sure fire proof for "Yahweh"???
        
        I asked for that Paster Teddy but all he does is trying to play "smoke on the water" with all other references that actually use different names and words than his Roman Catholic whipped and Seventh Day Adventist Cult preferred "Yahweh"… Can you help out Teddy?
      - victorbarney
        
        Sorry, I assumed that you were literate. If HEBREW is the ONLY Spiritual Language(ZEPH. 3:9, ACTS 26:14, 1 COR. 4:6), than WE CAN NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING IN THE "NEW" that CAN NOT BE FOUND IN THE HEBREW OLD(i.e. Let's START WITH "JESUS!")! P.S. A name given to Pope Leo the 10th from RCC's philosopher, Petrus Galatinus in 1520AD to WORSHIP "ZEUS" at LEO's OWN REQUEST because it was the tradition of Rome to honor those nation's that they had defeated, with Greece being the last one. But, why not do way with the 3rd Commandment too because they had already done away with the 7th Day Sabbath, which was the ONLY SIGN GIVEN to Elohim's true servants, right?
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Looks like you are unable to discern from what Hebrew actually says and what your traditions make you superimpose on that text… None of what you quote says "Yahweh"… NONE. If you would know a bit of Hebrew you would know that…
        
        Zephaniah 3:9 says:
        
        3069. יהוה Yhvh (217d); the same as 3068, q.v.
        
        That is tetragrammaton and not your conjuration of "Yahweh" Kapish?
        
        Acts 26:14 was rebuked in this thread already with Paster Teddy. See above.
        
        1 Corinthians 4:6 has absolutely nothing to do with the issue but maybe with the Bible Russian Roulette you all boys like to play.
        
        The rest of your post is completely outside of the issue of YHVH versus made up "Yahweh" an total rubbish too.
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        My comments are delayed Victor but so my answer will show up.
        Zephaniah 3:9 uses TETRAGRAMMATON YHVH:
        
        3069. יהוה Yhvh (217d); the same as 3068, q.v.
        
        and not what you superimpose on it i.e. "Yahweh" Dig it?
      - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
        
        Victor,
        
        Did you find "Yahweh" in the Bible?
Chris

Yes – now the religious can be complete jerks and fire their fellow citizens for unjustified reasons.

Pure hate exemplified.
- Dntmkmecmoverther
  
  Hey Chris!…you might as well join that 'fray'; with your attitude you will fit right in.
Paul Trombley

"the "ministerial exception' "

In other words, we have another case of Christians and a few other likeminded people enjoying double standards under the law. You can bet you've not heard the last about this issue from the courts and others.

“When a minister who has been fired sues her church alleging that her termination was discriminatory,…"

The minister would do well to remember that the church's members are employers and, furthermore, that an employer is a customer.
- Dntmkmecmoverther
  
  Paul, that's not true with church workers who are 'called' workers. Called workers are usually considered independent as far as the 'employee' status is concerned. They are 'employees' only by consideration of the IRS. As such, most ministers pay their own FICA (15% of their gross) and have to pay income taxes on the quarterly schedule.
  
  There is no double standard unless you intend to delete the freedom of religious expression from our US Constitution. The SCOTUS ruled correctly for a change on this case.
Gatewood Galbraith

I wonder what is more important to God, what name we rightly or erroneously call Him, or the love you have in your heart for Him and our fellow human beings?
"…but you omit the weightier matters of the law"
- http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
  
  So you have a perfect love in your heart?
  This is a discussion forum in case you have not noticed.
  Lastly, last time I checked it was Faith Alone and not faith perfected by love or faith plus love as you imply it seems…
  - Gatewood Galbraith
    
    What is the great commandment?
    - http://youtu.be/9p7fQD0eLb8 Despeville
      
      You did not answer my questions….
      Do you have a perfect love in your heart?
      Is it by faith alone of by implied gloss of faith PLUS love?
      
      You answer those and then we will move on to your question but do not fool yourself that love gives you a leverage in terms of how the law condemns us:
      
      "For the one who obeys the whole law but fails 18 in one point has become guilty of all of it."
      ~ James 2:10 NET
Steve

Everyone seems to have missed the fact that the teacher was fired because she was sick (narcolepsy is a disease). Would a church that follows the teachings of Jesus Christ even consider such an action? Or allow matters to develop in such a way that she felt she had no alternative other than a lawsuit? She asked for bread, the church gave her a stone, and the court ruled the church had the legal right to do so. The court is probably right on the law, but so was Mr. Bumble.
- tbone
  
  If she had narcolepsy, that would exclude her from many other jobs in the private sector as well. Maybe she wasn't being honest in her physical questionnaire. That woman should be on disability.