Alaska Airlines retiring meal tray prayer cards
Alaska Airlines is ending decades of giving passengers prayer cards with their meals, saying Wednesday the decision was made out of respect for all passengers.
Airline spokeswoman Bobbie Egan said the airline heard from customers who preferred not to mix religion with transportation. The decision reflects respect for the diverse religious beliefs and cultural attitudes of Alaska Airlines’ customers and employees, the company said in announcing the change.
“Some customers were comforted by the cards and some didn’t feel religion was appropriate on the plane and preferred not to receive one,” she said.
The cards began as a marketing ploy 30 years ago to differentiate the regional airline from its competitors. The company admits the idea was borrowed from another airline.
I have yet to get on a plane and fly anywhere without saying a prayer for GOD's traveling mercies on that flight. Maybe some out there don't think they need it, but I don't think that is a wise choice to make.
-JimAmen to that, Jim. That makes two places even the government can't take prayer from–airplanes and classrooms (particularly just prior to taking a math or science test).
-BuyerbwearAnd you do it all without a prayer card don't you?
It is silly for anyone to get worked up about this.
-davesMaybe, from your comment, you may have a little info on this topic. How is not passing out prayer cards respecting passengers? Are they not allowed to refuse them if they don't want them? Have they been forcing them on the passengers?
-MyrtlelinderNo need to answer, I get the point!!!! Thanks, anyway. Great comment!!!! Conversation with GOD is a wonderful privilede!
It was Brother Dave Gardner, the great southern stand-up comedian of the 1960s-70s, who had a routine that included the following characterization of a radio preacher's plea:
"Never mind them stingy postal cards; never mind them stingy prayer cards; you know what your troubles are, pray for yourself!"
-bighossJus take your own, or your Rosary with you
-Michael G.Stupid decision. Apply their logic to food: some didn’t want it so we stopped feeding everyone. How about water: ‘Some people didn’t think it was appropriate or necessary, so we stopped offering water on our flights.’ See how stupid?
How about simply asking if the passenger wanted a prayer card? That’s incredibly simple and would not have landed Alaskan Airlines in the stupid columns.
-Dntmkmecmoverther"Stupid decision. Apply their logic to food: some didn't want it so we stopped feeding everyone. How about water: 'Some people didn't think it was appropriate or necessary, so we stopped offering water on our flights.' See how stupid?"
They already made that stupid decision, Dntmkmecmoverther. The article says that the airline stopped offering meals to customers in the main cabin. Apparently, Alaska Airlines thinks that only first class customers are worthy of a decent meal during their flight.
Needless to say, I don't plan on purchasing a plane ticket from Alaska Airlines any time soon … for many reasons, including this one: they do not show respect to ALL of their customers. Just a few who complain about prayer cards or those who can afford first class plane tickets.
-Linda F.I well agree to that meny times over.
-Byron PotterThe key to your comment is 'offered'. They were not offering prayer cards, they were giving them to everyone.
-davesEveryone needs one whether they admit it or not. If they don't want it they can hand it back to the stewardess or ignore it. Personally, I've flow well over a milion miles and I always pray before and during each flight for God's angels to keep watch over the aircraft and weather.
-Naval AviatorBetween a prayer card and a good mechanic, I will take the good mechanic every time.
-Jeff DixonEven a good mechanic fails sometimes. So please forgive me if I choose to place my faith in my God, instead of in a human being who is prone to making mistakes.
Have a nice day, Jeff.
-Linda F.You may need more than a mechanic when you are fat, dumb, and happy aat 30,000 and your world starts to come apart.
-Michael G.The prayer card will not be helping any either at that point.
-Jeff DixonYou need a prayer card to pray?
-davesIt was actually economics which determined their decision to stop providing drinks and food, not simply because a few people did not need or want the drink or food. It is also economics which has prompted this decision.
However, all the hysteria aside, if you want to see a bible verse during your flight, then read your bible.
-Jeff DixonRead the story of Alaska 262 (I think that's the flight number), and ask how many of those people were praying for a mechanic during the last few minute of their lives.
-Michael G.Perhaps not, but they were not crying out for a prayer card either.
-Jeff DixonOr simply ignore he darned thing…why deny others? This is B.S!
-ady MilosThis decision was made by the people who run the airlines. They decided to offer it at one point and now have decided not to offer it. If it bothers you so much, offer to cover the cost of supplying the cards.
-Jeff DixonMy thoughts exactly! As the meal is handed out ask – they may be surprised at how many WANT the cards!
May God Bless them all anyway.
-pcsrockyIt is amazing the a few can do so much in changing things in the wrong direction. Something wholesome…it appears the saying is now true – where right is now wrong and truth is now false in a culture that is upside down where the minority says it is right side up! I hope the majority of people start thinking!
-ThinkingsRead your Bible, it is predicted that in the latter days, truth would become lies and lies would be the truth, child will turn against their parents, and brother against brother, as well as other things that is happening today in our culture. Not saying we should roll over and do nothing just because it is predicted, we can still pray whether they give us a card or not, and we can still contact that airlines and voice our opinions (perhaps if more are "offended" because they took away the cards, then they may bring them back). Oh well, it seems like we have landed in "Bizarro World" (if you ever read Superman comics you will know what I am talking about) and we can't get out!!!!
-Anita MThat is true…since we have been in the last days let's just say for a long time. In studying people and the different moasics groups (ancient-current) and as recently as the 30's we are living in a time that will challenge us to do the right thing or the easy. Bizarro world haven't heard that for a long time… but I differ only to say, we can get out! This short quote from a confirmation service, spoken by Dietrich Bonhoeffer speaks loudly today as it did to those that heard it: “Confirmands today are like young soldiers march to war, the war of Jesus Christ against the gods of this world. It is a war that demands the commitment of one’s whole life. Is not God, our Lord, worthy of this struggle? Idolatry and cowardice confront us on all side, but the direst foe does not confront us, he is within us. ‘Lord, I believe, help though mine unbelief.’” God is bigger than everyone imagines, the standard issuing of religion even that of religious Christianity that keeps Christ holy on Sunday only will not cut it anymore it never did!
-ThinkingsPart 2… It is not in weakness that Jesus came and ascended to the right hand of Father, but in strength, victory, power, authority so evil be replaced by goodness, life, hope, joy, peace in the midst of evil speaking truth clearly and celebrating life as reality. Unless we live it…occupy life with His life in us we as the church today will be religionless like the rest of the religions of our day…lifeless and dead compared to a life giving relationship Father seeks to be and give to us.
-Thinkings“Our eyes are on you, oh Lord God of the universe, we may not know what to do right this moment, but as we surrender to you and not to the times we live in…we will know. Give us the wisdom to live… to speak, to renew the hope for Father your hope will not disappoint us. So, Holy Spirit keep us engaged in reality because Father you are reality apart from you there isn’t reality only deceit, betrayal, lifelessness and death. Father we choose reality Jesus our life of hope, people over things, strength to speak, give the cup to others, mercy mixed with truth and until we see you face to face we will never turn away from you! Amen and Amen!”
-ThinkingsPeace always Anita and thank you for your additional strength to our fight! Stephen
Yes, Thinkings, and Jesus Christ is still in control of history…
-msjallenCol 1:17 He is before all things and in Him all things hold together.
Yes, HE is all powerful, glorious always, the redeemer or all sinners, which means all of us, the one the world seeks to destroy, because of HIS PERFECTION, AND MAJESTY. I think mostly is because this anit-CHRIST attitude is because we want to be recognized as GOD, which is impossible.
-MyrtlelinderChristians have thought they have been living in the end times since Jesus incorrectly stated he would be returning during the lives of his disciples. For 2,000 years every generation has believed it is living in the end times. They have always been wrong. You will continue to be wrong.
-Jeff DixonIt seems that many look forward to it also.
-davesJesus never said that. You best go back and reread the Scripture on that subject.
-Michael G.Of course he did.
1) Jesus falsely prophesies DIRECTLY to the high priest (Caiphas) that he would live to see his second coming. Jesus uses the term “coming on the clouds of heaven”. This clearly negates the “coming” as the resurrection but as a return to the earth on CLOUDS, not his return in human form from the dead. Matthew 26:64 & Mark 14:62.
"But I tell you: From now on you will see 'the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power' and 'coming on the clouds of heaven.'" (Matthew 26:64 NAB)
Then Jesus answered, "I am; and 'you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.'" (Mark 14:62 NAB)
2) Jesus mistakenly tells his followers that he will return and establish his kingdom within their lifetime. Matthew 23:36 & 24:34
Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. (Matthew 23:36 NAB)
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. "Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Matthew 24:29-35 NAB)
3) YET AGAIN, Jesus claims those standing RIGHT BEFORE HIM shall see the Armageddon. Matthew 16:28 “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Don’t let Christians lie to you and claim Jesus was referring to his modern day believers. The words “some standing HERE will not taste death” clearly refutes such nonsense. Obviously the people he was speaking to died, and curiously Jesus STILL isn’t here to claim his kingdom.
4) Jesus falsely prophesies that the end of the world will come within his listeners’ lifetimes.
Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Mark 13:30-31 NAB)
He also said to them, "Amen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come in power." (Mark 9:1 NAB)
5) Jesus falsely predicts that some of his listeners would live to see him return and establish the kingdom of God.
"Truly I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:27 NAB)
6) Jesus implies that he will return to earth during the lifetime of John. (John 21:22)
7) Jesus says that all that he describes (his return, signs in the sun, moon, wars, stars, etc.) will occur within the lifetime of his listeners. He purposely defines their generation and NOT a future one. Considering that NONE of those signs took place during the resurrection and that he uses the term of “Heaven and earth shall pass away”, Clearly Jesus is prophesizing that nearly 2,000 years ago Armageddon SHOULD have occurred. Luke 21:25-33
"There will be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars, and on earth nations will be in dismay, perplexed by the roaring of the sea and the waves. People will die of fright in anticipation of what is coming upon the world, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But when these signs begin to happen, stand erect and raise your heads because your redemption is at hand." He taught them a lesson. "Consider the fig tree and all the other trees. When their buds burst open, you see for yourselves and know that summer is now near; in the same way, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Luke 21:25-33 NAB)
Note: Matthew 10:23 also has Jesus telling his disciples that the second coming will occur before the disciples finish preaching in Israel: "When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes." (Matthew 10:23 NAB)]
-Jeff Dixon"Alaska Airlines is ending decades of giving passengers prayer cards with their meals, saying Wednesday the decision was made out of respect for all passengers."
And, of course, NO ONE even discussed ASKING passengers if they would like prayer cards! Nope. Why go with the most obvious option, when they (Alaska Airlines) can disrespect some passengers in an effort to please passengers who don't believe in prayer?
Bad decision, Alaska Airlines. Not to mention a very stupid, very idiotic, and very disrespectful decision.
-Linda F.And you base your comment that they did not ask their passengers on what?
-Jeff DixonThis is what is wrong with our society. If you don't want the prayer card just don't read it. A minority just ruins everything for the majority. If I were given a prayer card from another religion I would simply leave it on my tray and say my own prayer. One of these we will wish we had fought harder for our rights. I believe there will be a day of judgement.
-Indy GrandmaReally? You wouldn't be upset if they set a Muslim prayer card on the tray with your meal?
-davesIf you are capable of saying your own prayer if you would be handed a card with a verse from another religion, why do you need a Christian prayer card in the first place?
-Jeff DixonDaves, I would not be upset, why should I? I would just look at it and junk it. No fret!! I would realize that they meant well and let it go.
Jeff, I don't think they are giving you a card because they think you need one but that is a wonderful generous gesture. The silly things that upset people is unbelievable. Maybe we are just looking for something to "bitch about."
-MyrtlelinderThat is a good answer to me!
-davesRemember the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
-Michael G.And in Greek mythology, Charon is the ferryman of Hades who carries souls of the newly deceased across the rivers Styx and Acheron that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead. A coin to pay Charon for passage, usually an obolus or danake, was sometimes placed in or on the mouth of a dead person. Some authors say that those who could not pay the fee, or those whose bodies were left unburied, had to wander the shores for one hundred years.
Simply because it has been said hardly makes it true.
-Jeff DixonI might take 'that' card as a souvenir to show my friends–nothing more.
-Michael G.Yet another CRUEL example of how we are being systematically stripped of our Christian heritage. This is very bad decision, plain (no plane) and simple. Alaska Airlines you need to be ashamed of your self. There may be a few people who objected but how about the hundreds that were delighted by this very simple gesture. Another BAD DECISION by Corporate America…
-Mike from ColoradoYes, Christianity is disappearing in this country. Why, sometimes I can go for a whole 2-3 minutes in this country without being bombarded with a Christian message on the radio, tv, billboards, the internet or seeing a church.
-Jeff DixonChristianity is not disappearing. Perhaps you're not looking far enough.
-Michael G.Duh, really?
-Jeff Dixon@JeffDixon:”Yes, Christianity is disappearing in this country. Why, sometimes I can go for a whole 2-3 minutes in this country without being bombarded with a Christian message on the radio, tv, billboards, the internet or seeing a church.”
Well Jeff, DUH to you as well. The Christians who founded this nation gave us two documents to keep: The Declaration and the Constitution. Both of which would never have come out of any secular belief system; they only work and are sustained within a Christian ethic. Outside of Christianity there is no foundational basis for knowing good from evil. That is something that if you are not blind nor deaf, you ought to hear or see every 2- 3 minutes and be glad you do.
-DntmkmecmovertherMany of the founders were Christians, however, the Constitution is a completely secular creation. There is no mention of Jesus anywhere in the document.
Was the USA founded as a Christian nation?
The Treaty of Tripoli should have put this myth to bed before it even became a myth. It states” “As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion…” A government treaty created in the initial years of our country, signed by the President and ratified by the Senate, stating we are not a Christian nation. It was read aloud to the Senate, and each Senator received a printed copy. This was the 339th time that a recorded vote was required by the Senate, but only the third time a vote was unanimous (the next time was to honor George Washington). There is no record of any debate or dissension on the Treaty. It was reprinted in full in three newspapers – two in Philadelphia, one in New York City. There is no record of public outcry or complaint in subsequent editions of the papers.
President Adams signed the treaty and proclaimed it to the nation on 10 June 1797. His statement on it was a bit unusual: “Now be it known, That I John Adams, President of the United States of America, having seen and considered the said Treaty do, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, accept, ratify, and confirm the same, and every clause and article thereof. And to the End that the said Treaty may be observed and performed with good Faith on the part of the United States, I have ordered the premises to be made public; And I do hereby enjoin and require all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States, and all other citizens or inhabitants thereof, faithfully to observe and fulfill the said Treaty and every clause and article thereof.”
-Jeff DixonKeep taking God out of the country. It will not be long before God decides that he is not welcome in this country. God does not force himself. He will leave, taking his mercy and protection with him. Get ready America…..keep testing God and behold his WRATH!!!! It is very easy to say………….keep the cards on this aircraft…..or we will not fly! Keep prayer in our schools, or we will home school our children. Or sit back and let the "other person" stand up for our country. We have been warned!!!!!
-millergroup2He took His grace away from Israel many times in the OT and gave it to the Gentiles. Ex: Elijah and the widow woman with her son who were going to die of starvation. Many other examples should make us realize that we need to put God first then all other things will fall in place as we advance in His Word.
-msjallenLook at who we have in the White House and you KNOW God took his grace away from this country. We are in bad shape and have a buffoon in the White House. We have a horrible sin of abortion hanging over us and we've thrown God out schools, courthouses and legislature. Obama threw Him out of the White House. Alaska Airlines should continue with the prayer cards and tell the minority who are stupid enough to object to just ignore them or hand them back. TIme for Christians to stand up and take the country back starting in November by removing the cancer in the White House and the those in Congress.
-Naval AviatorYes, Naval Aviaor, and we need to shout this in every possible way on the internet and any other place where everyone will hear it.
-msjallenThank you for your service to our country.
You seem to have little faith in the words of your god.
Romans 13
-Jeff DixonSubmission to Governing Authorities
1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
Well hello Jeff.
Correct, we are to respect and obey the laws of the land. UNLESS THE LAW IS NOT INLINE WITH GOD'S WORD. If our government chooses to remove God from this great America, then Christians are obligated to oversee the government and bring God back into all of America's doings. His name is spelled with a capital "G". You may want to show a little respect yourself. Notice the big "J" up there.
Authority must be understood by every Christian since it is the entire basis of our relationship with Christ. “Authority” means “the right to command and enforce obedience.” When we accept Jesus Christ as our “Lord,” this means that He is supposed to become our “boss” or “authority” over our whole life (Luke 6:46). In addition, the Bible becomes the source of authoritative instruction for our Christian Life (2 Tim. 3:16).
Since submission to authority is basic to Christian Life, it is important that we understand that all authority is a God-given institution, and all types of authority are related. The Lordship of Christ is the highest source of authority that we must answer to (Matt. 28:18), but God has also ordained at least three other categories of subordinate authority in the world that we must also submit to:
(1) The Family – Children are to obey their parents (Eph. 6:10). The wife is to cooperate with her husband, which is the head of the family (Eph. 5:22-24, 1 Tim. 2:12), and the husband is to submit to Christ and love his wife (Eph. 5:23,25).
(2) The State – We are to cooperate with those authority figures and obey the local and federal laws of the land, within the boundaries of God’s laws (1 Pet. 2:13-14).
(3) The Church – Christians are to submit to the headship of Christ which is exercised through His Spirit (Rom. 8:14), His Word (2 Tim. 3:16), and Church leadership (Matt. 18:17-20, Heb. 13:17).
God has established these authorities as the “delegated” extensions of His authority. If we resist cooperation, we are in effect, resisting God’s own authority and Lordship. This is why Paul told wives to submit to their husbands “as to the Lord” (Eph. 5:22).
-millergroup2Sorry, that is not what your book says. It states "The authorities that exist have been established by God".
That means all authorities have been placed there by your god whether they are inline with his word or not.
-Jeff DixonYou are reading out of context Jeff. You have to read the whole book. I is hard to debate with someone who cannot read and report as a whole. Start with the G
-millergroup2Don't expect Jeff to show any kind of respect to us, and don't expect him to show any form of respect to our God. The only people Jeff Dixon respects are himself and his fellow atheists.
-Linda F.Thanks Linda. We have added more for Jeff to read. Pray that God will open his heart to hear the truth. He is stuck with "how can this be"?
-millergroup2Matthew 10
-millergroup232 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Credit to victorious.org
What About Corrupt Authority?
Obviously, in the absence of Godly and moral values, there can sometimes be abuses of authority and perversions in government. Such was the case when Peter and John were forbidden to preach the Gospel by the Jewish Sanhedrin. They replied, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you more than to God, you judge” (Acts 4:19). The only circumstance that disobedience to authority is justifiable by scripture, is if it conflicts with the laws of God. Authority should be cooperated with except in those situations where laws depart from the basic moral and righteous principles of God’s Word.
Paul tells us to pray for all those in authority: “ I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence” (1 Tim. 2:1-2). God can use our prayers for those in authority, to either change their heart or remove them from power entirely. God reserves the right of administering discipline and reproof to those who represent His authority (Rom. 14:4, 1 Chron. 16:21-22).
-millergroup2You don't believe in the authority of the holy word of God, and yet you attempt to use it when it's convenient for you; when you want a weapon to use against us? Get real, Jeff! Make up your mind!
-Linda F.I agree with you wholeheartedly. God is getting sick and tired of the Devil's imps ruling this earth and I feel very certain we are living in the last days. Did not know Alaska airlines did this service with prayer cards and I am sure they will regret this decision. It is time for true Christians to stand our ground and not be kicked around by the minority of Atheists, Agnostic, Muslims, Homosexuals, Transgenders, and any others who reject our Saviour. They will be so sorry come Judgement day that they had a chance to accept Jesus Christ who died on that cruel Cross for our sins and did not accept him. May God Bless America once again and return unto God. Also we need to boycott Starbucks, and Microsoft since they have chosen to accept the gay & lesbian way of life. Home Depot lost a lot of business and have since seen it our way also.
-LynbreSince your god is supposed to be controlling everything, he must want these imps to be ruling. Otherwise, that means that something is occurring which your god is not in control of. So, is that your view? Is there something occurring which your god is not in control of? If so, he is hardly all powerful.
-Jeff DixonJeff you are curious. This is why you are spending your time here. God is real. Ask him to reveal himself to you, and he will. Give yourself a chance. If he is real and you deny him, he will deny you at the time of judgement.
MK 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”
And they were amazed at him.
When we read through the OT we see lots of cases of believers confronted with how to relate to the state: Abraham, Isaac and Jacob all had run ins with the authorities. Josef became PM of Egypt. Moses was the founder of a new nation, he served as the lawgiver. The time of the judges was chaotic because everyone did what was right in their own eyes Judges 21.25 JDG 21:25 In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as he saw fit.
In David and Solomon we see the ideal kings and through the prophets we see men of God confronting the kings and the people with their sins and injustices.
Some would criticize the preacher who tries to preach on this topic saying you shouldn’t mix politics and religion, I say that the Bible is full of this subject and it needs to be taught from the pulpits of this land like it once was. If you want to see some political sermons go back in history to the various crises in our nation’s history.
-millergroup2The concept of the Christian being a citizen of 2 kingdoms: the kingdom of God, our primary loyalty and true home, and the kingdom of man, where we live physically in the here and now. We must live in both realms, we must understand both realms, we must know our obligations to both realms. We will examine the kingdom of man as being established by God and seek to find out government’s role under God. What is government supposed to do?
. God Is Sovereign over Government
In the last couple of years there has been considerable controversy over the Pledge of Allegiance. Why? Because of the phrase “under God” which was added in 1954. Why was it added? Because in the 1950′s America realized that we were at war with Communism and Communism was deliberately atheistic. While many people disagree with this phrase being in the pledge, saying that it turns the pledge into a prayer, I believe that it merely acknowledges the truth of what Paul says here in Rom.13. America and all nations are under God’s control and sovereign authority. Any person or political party or judge or legislature or executive who wants to remove this line from the pledge, is either ignorant, that is uninformed, or they consciously reject God’s authority over the state.
Let us look at Rom 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
The main point here is that God is sovereign over government. Government was God’s idea and he allows or appoints all the governments to exist. Look at Jesus in John 19.10-11″Do you refuse to speak to me?” Pilate said. “Don’t you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?”
JN 19:11 Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.”
JN 19:12 From then on, Pilate tried to set Jesus free, but the Jews kept shouting, “If you let this man go, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.”
JN 19:13 When Pilate heard this, he brought Jesus out and sat down on the judge’s seat at a place known as the Stone Pavement (which in Aramaic is Gabbatha). 14 It was the day of Preparation of Passover Week, about the sixth hour.
“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.
JN 19:15 But they shouted, “Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!”
“Shall I crucify your king?” Pilate asked.
“We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered.
JN 19:16 Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified.
So the soldiers took charge of Jesus. 17 Carrying his own cross, he went out to the place of the Skull (which in Aramaic is called Golgotha). 18
Pilate was doing something cowardly and unjust, yet he was fitting perfectly into God’s plan for the crucifixion. He was guilty of sin, yet fulfilling God’s plan (paradox).
Obviously we have a problem when we then look at the Hitlers Stalins, Idi Amins, Sadaam Husseins of the world and say, how could God establish these monsters as governors? God has generally established government and rulers for good, but there are clearly evil men who usurp government and use it for evil. We will deal with that issue later. For now, it is a general principle that God is sovereign over all governments.
The word for authority in this verse is exousia, a delegated power, not kratos, which is raw power.
-millergroup2. Sin and the Need for Government
Why did God create government? As soon as Adam and Eve sinned, government became necessary eventually. Otherwise you would have the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, Hobbes wrote: “During the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that conditions called war; and such a war, as if of every man, against every man.
“To this war of every man against every man, this also in consequent; that nothing can be unjust. The notions of right and wrong, justice and injustice have there no place. Where there is no common power, there is no law, where no law, no injustice. Force, and fraud, are in war the cardinal virtues.
“No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death: and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.”
The founders of our nation realized that because man was sinful, man needed to be ruled by law, and so they sought to establish a government of law and not men. Hence our Republic as opposed to a pure democracy.
Very quickly after the Fall you have the first murder, and then another murder and then mankind was so wicked that God was sorry that he made man and he sent the flood.
Paul says in Rom13.3 that rulers are a terror for those who do wrong, implying that the purpose of government is to restrain evil and commend what is good. That is the essence of what government is for.
There is quite a range of government theory.
/–Antigovernment-anarchists–minimum government (anarchists, libertarians to conservatives) –more governmentt (liberals to socialists)—maximum government (totalitarianism, communists, Nazis, dictatorships, Islamic rule)–/
The goal is to find the forms of government that most carry out God’s mandates to government; to restrain evil and promote justice.
Look at 1Tim.2.1-4 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone– 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
We are to pray for our government so that we can live in peace and godliness and that will aid evangelism.
-millergroup2The Declaration reads: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. –That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
In light of Rom 13 and our founding documents what we discover is that Rom 13 can rightly be applied to the average American voting citizen, for we the people are the rulers, we choose those to rule us for a time, then we choose others.
III. Government Is to commend what is right
Government is to commend what is right in v.3 of Rom13. Government should promote righteousness under God’s authority. Look at some of the OT laws and how they relate to today:
Lev.19.9-18, 33-36; 24.17; Amos 5.24; Eccles.8:11
When Paul says that in v.6 we are to pay taxes, agreeing with Jesus, we know that it does take money to run the govt.
IV Government is to bear the sword and restrain evil.
This is absolutely related to capitol punishment. Government actions are always, ultimately conducted with the implied threat of the bayonet. Therefore, government has an obligation to do as little as possible with as little force as possible.
-millergroup2I agree wholeheartedly, and I fear God's wrath will be just though swift and harsh, after the way this country has descended downward and turned from Him.
-Robert WayneUltra stupid decision: those who didn't want a prayer-card could always simply turn it over, use it as napkin, …–any way of NOT filling it out, of which there are many. Having prayer card respected those who have religion, and actually is NO disrespect for areligious–but this decision disrespects religious and will NOT please areligious!
-DevasahayamIt is not "disrespectful" of Alaska Airlines to discontinue the distribution of these prayer cards, any more than it is disrespectful of other airlines not to provide such cards in the first place.
Get over it, theocratic whiners.
-bighossIF WE CONTINUE NOT TO THINK WE DON'T NEED GODS CONSTANT CARE AND PROTECTION FOR OUR LIVES I BELIEVE SOME ARE IN FOR A RUDE WAKE UP CALL! SHAME ON YOU I'M WITH THE OTHER COMMENT ASK IF PEOPLE WANT A CARD INSTEAD OF PLAYING GOVERNMENT TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY'LL HAVE AND WHAT THEY WONT.I WONT BE FLYING THIS AIRLINE!
-SHARONhttp://planecrashinfo.com/rates.htm
This is a link to a record of airline safety records. While Alaska Airlines is doing better than some, it hardly has the best safety record among its competitors. Delta and Southwest both have a safety record that is over 5 times better than Alaska Airlines, and they both fly more flights than Alaska as well. Obviously the prayer cards have not provided any additional safety for the passengers.
-Jeff DixonWhen travelling, especially flying on an airplane we need all the scriptures we can muster. This old world is in for a rude awakening if they do not turn back to God, our Constitution, and our Forefathers beleifs and way of life. May God Bless these United States of America after they repent. Also we must stand with Israel for this is Jesus chosen people.
-LynbreI am very sad to hear about this decision. I was thrilled when we received the scriptures when we flew to Alaska many years ago. I believe I still have the card.
-NormaUnbelievable!. Small percentage of atheists are controling America and trying to control the entire World. Those how do not want the prayer card, just ignore it, instead of controling the rest of us. The World will be destroy by these atheists and those how follow their wishes " LIKE ALASKA AIRLINE ". I am sorry to know about the lack of knowledge of those how are suppose to be knowledgeable about their decisions.
-Reynerio SanchezA very concerned American . Reynerio Sanchez
P.S. If you want to contact me, please, send me an E-mail: sanchezreynerio@yahoo.com
RIGHT ON! STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES AND THE APATHETIC ALLOW!
-Honest1inVAReynerio, I have some news for you. The discontinuation of the prayer cards on Alaska Airlines meal trays is NOT a part of any scheme to "control the entire World."
There. Now don't you feel better knowing that?
Probably not, since anyone as prone to such wild exaggeration as you exhibit is not rationally competent to understand very much.
-bighossWhen I lived on the West Coast, I used to look for route that were even somewhat out of my way, just so I could fly on Alaska Airlines. Not anymore, though. Those Alaska Airlines prayer cards would simply make me feel good, and I'd accompany it with my own prayer while flying. It was unique, it made Alaska Airlines unique, even if it was a public relations ploy borrowed from another airline. I think this is an executive mistake by Alaska Airlines, I wonder if their Atheist ridership will increase now, or will it still remain the one or two a week?
-SargeE5We're at a place in American life where a a large choir of angels can be making the most beautiful music imaginable and one ugly, repulsive little devil can complain, shut it all down and rule the day. It's sort of like "hell on earth"!
-GordonI guess that Alaska Airlines will begin being boycotted for their huge liberal puke like mistake.
-Billy F.I would not be surprised to find that the knee-jerk boycott crowd has trained their sights on Alaska Airlines. Boycotting has become a stock-in-trade of the unimaginative, so-called religious right crowd of frustrated theocrats.
-bighossNo doubt it is the sign of the times that people would reject christianity. It is so sad; I just cannot imagine not asking the Lord for devine protection for a safe flight. We should all be praising and thanking God for our gift freedom this country enjoys. Our existence and the very breath we take is by His command, so why would people dishonor Him.
-JaniceThank you for passing out the inspirational cards on the food trays and hope it will resume soon.
SHAME ON ALASKA AIRLINES!!! Let's see who your pilots and crew will call on when their plane experiences problems or is going down!! And who will be the most likely to help in that kind of situation…the anti-God complainers whose complaints appear to have carried more weight than those who loved the prayer cards…., or GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF??!!
-Norma from San diegoRemind me NOT to fly ALASKA!!
It is a shame that an airline will allow complaints from a few to stop a 30 year tradition that was appreciated by so many. As one gentleman stated, I have never flown that I did no ask God to protect me and everyone on the plane and help the pilot of that aircraft make right decisions. And, to have a prayer card issued was a welcome sight. WAKE UP AMERICA!! We DO NOT need to stand back an take this. My son flies to and from Alaska every three weeks for his job and I ask God to go with him every time. What can a prayer card hurt?????
Concerned Mom in Texas
-Patsy DickensWhere can I get a complete set of those cards? They're awesome.
-LUMglobalPolitical correctness and Safety are just devices of control. The majority has become the minority..
-COArlIt is the vocal minority, on this issue and many others, that are slowly doing what other enemies have been trying to do for hundreds of years…destroy America. If we do not put a stop to this now, soon we will not have an America worth preserving.
-SageWarriorThe only thing good about those prayer cards are the pictures. Other then that, I dont like religion in my face.
-Byron PotterAnd I don't like worthless atheist scum telling me I can't worship the Lord.
-Robert WayneI'm that way. You just ignore them and do it anyway.
-Michael G.No one has said you cannot worship your lord. Worship him all you like, day and night. Just do not expect rational people to agree with you.
-Jeff DixonToo bad more people and corporations are bowing down to the PC and to the few instead of the majority of people. It will not help their business.
-msjallenPsalm 37:1 Do not fret because of evildoers, be not envious toward wrongdoers. For they will wither quickly like the grass and fade like the green herb.
How much do you want to bet they never used these verses on their prayer cards?
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan. (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Eat the food as you would a barley cake; bake it in the sight of the people, using human excrement for fuel." (Ezekiel 4:12)
-Jeff DixonAmen.
-BeholdHimYou are assuming that the majority of people want this card without a shred of evidence to support that view.
-Jeff DixonIs there going to be enough room on those planes to hand out Muslim prayer rugs now since the prayer cards
-Pastor Tomare gone. "Behold,the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, Is.13:9.
Right, they have decided to hand out prayer rugs instead. (eyes roll)
If you want a bible verse with your meal, open your handy dandy bible and read one.
-Jeff DixonWhy do you hate me and other Christians, because we tell you the truth?
-Pastor TomHe can't answer that one. But the day is coming, and he will be answering, not only for that one, but for everything else.
-Michael G.You are not telling the truth about anything. You are offering your opinion about what you would like the truth to be.
And I do not hate you. I do not even know you. Why do Christians always make such asinine comments?
-Jeff DixonPastor, WHATEVER !!!!!!!!
-Byron Pottera very good question.
-BeholdHimALASKA Airlines Joins The Heathen Generation With Their Decision. God Is Good. If Those On Earth Are Ashamed Of Me'''''' I Will Be Ashamed Of Them Before My Father'
-GUESTThey were useful for disposing of used chewing gum.
-Jeff DixonMy niece is a veteran airline flight attendant. On a flight several years ago, there was a group of Buddhist monks. One of them told her that he needed a secluded place to pray. She let him step into the small galley area where meals and snacks are stored. The monk stayed there for over half an hour and the flight crew needed to get access to equipment used to serve passengers. The monk insisted that he was not through; the flight crew insisted that he was!
Before the flight, the plane's crew was instructed that they were not to look any of these monks directly in the eye, that in their sect of Buddhism, this would be considered insulting or intimidating. Dutifully, the crew complied with this ridiculous requirement, even when explaining things to the monk who had overstayed his welcome in the galley.
There is a reasonable limit to accommodating exotic religious preferences, or at least there ought to be!
-bighossSounds like you are lower than chewing gum on the BOTTOM of a shoe!!!!! What a Blatant MORON!
-jimThe airline has decided for business reasons to discontinue a practice it admits it started "as a marketing ploy." When a "marketing ploy" isn't working any more, it's a capitalist's right and duty to cut the expense and move on. This is just capitalism at work. Nothing to be upset at. Ron, Mitt, and Newt understand and applaud such "creative destruction," and so should we.
-SteveThey only gave them to first class passengers. It was a ploy to suck up to gullible Christians. Now there are fewer people who are so gullible. Particularly since Alaska Airlines crashed a plane because they couldn't be bothered to lubricate and check the elevator jack screw properly and god made the plane crash and kill everybody.
-ChrisGod has nothing to do with the crash. It was just plain negligence on the part of those who were responsible for maintenance.
-MarieDoes your god control everything or not?
-Jeff DixonMaking God mad is not the smartest thing to do. Aint y'all had no upbringin?
-Frank AnknerAint y'all had no education?
Making the god of the bible mad must be one of the easist things in the world to do. He is always flying off the handle in the stories in the bible.
-Jeff DixonUnfortunately you don't know Him at all. But you will one day, and you're getting closer every day.
-Michael G.It is impossible to get to know a myth.
-Jeff DixonMyth's ( or rather entities ) are proven to be wrong over time Jeff. Give us your example of God being a myth? Dig yourself deeper. An educated response is need here. We (I) want to see what your education has to reveal forthwith. When you respond with an answer that has credibility, we, as a concerned (for your sole), will prove the existence of God. But, in order to gain this knowledge you must show that you are willing to receive the undisputed truth. Go ahead, take a shot at it. If you are unable to hold a intelligent conversation, and intend to riddle us with another light weight cheep shot, don't bother. In other words, dig deeper. I don't think that your mind is as shallow as you pretend it to be. You are curious. Quit being a phoney.
-millergroup2Please tell me when Zeus was proven to be wrong. I mean actually proven. What was the scientific proof that showed he could not exist or has actually never existed.
Gods are not proven to be wrong. They merely fall out of favor or their followers disappear. When was the Egyptian god Seth, or the Zoroastrian god Mithra, or the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl proven to be wrong?
Or let us be even be more specific. When was the biblical god proven to be right? I would be fascinated to hear the scientific proof of your god.
You seem to be indicating your intellectual superiority in this dialogue. So, let us see exactly what you have to offer.
Game on.
-Jeff DixonThis is no game. My intellectual superiority does not come into play, nor do I take any credit. It is God's superiority that counts here. His word, and his ultimate supreme authority is what is important. These other gods you speak of never existed. I can see that you are beyond reproach. Reading through all of these post the last few weeks tell me to stay away from trying to talk sense to you. You will never listen. Scientific proof? Look around you. The perfect star system, perfect rotation, perfect time. This is your perfect "big bang"? OK, you did make one valid point……….."Gods are not proven to be wrong. They merely fall out of favor or their followers disappear" Seems that the followers of Jesus are still about 4 billion strong and always growing. This is why I cannot continue on this subject with you. You will never consider creation. According to you, billions of human beings are tricked by a MYTH. A myth that never fades away.
-millergroup2Nonsense. This is what you said about me. ". Go ahead, take a shot at it. If you are unable to hold a intelligent conversation." You were implying I am not intelligent, therefore you would be more intelligent.
And I hate to break t to you, but there are not 4 billion Christians in the world, there are around 2 billion. That means there are 5 billion people who have not bought into your myth.
As far as a perfect star system? How do you define perfection? The world has been hit by meteors several times in the past which has almost wiped out life. Our sun will burn out at some point. It is a functional system, but it is hardly perfect.
You can run away from this conversation if you like. I have noticed most Christians are unable to defend their absurd positions.
-Jeff DixonIt was always a pleasure to board an airline that offered its passengers more than
-Frankpretzels and water. As so many have already commented: if you don't like the magazines
offered in the rack, don't read them. If you're offended by a simple little card on your
tray that offers a prayer for you, don't read it. Caving in to the crass, ungodly elements
in our society is just another way of saying "nothing is important." My friends, the next
time you board Alaska, ask for a prayer card and if enough press the point, they may
reconsider. Squeeky wheel always gets the grease:-) And I like the cards.
Yeah, those people who think there should be no "mixing of religion and transportation" might change their tune if the plane ever loses its engines and starts spiraling downward. Gee, this is just brilliant, Alaska Airlines, just brilliant. You couldn't just ask the passengers if they'd like to have a prayer card? No, that would be too easy. It's much easier to offend Believers than it is to use common sense. So, instead of doing something that is a very nice thing to do and a comfort to some, you've decided to be just run-of-the-mill idiots. Brilliant.
-48kindagalWe need to pray for our country.
-msjallenNahum 1:3 – The LORD is slow to anger and great in power And the LORD will by no means leave the guilty unpunished. In whirlwind and storm is His way, and clouds are the dust beneath His feet.
I Tim 2:1-2 First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
To pray to God is to flatter oneself that with words one can alter nature. – Voltaire
-Jeff DixonVoltaire may not have been a believer when he was alive, but I guarantee he is one today.
-Michael G.You need to revisit the definition of guarantee.
-Jeff DixonI'd have put a check box on the ticket purchase page or application where you check which faith's prayer card – including 'none' – you want with your airline meal, vice discontinue it. Some want a Christian prayer, some a Jewish prayer, some a Hindu prayer, some a Sufi prayer, some an Islamic one… and some don't want one. All would be covered by checking the right box when buying the ticket.
-MalikTousJust one more reason NOT to fly, besides T.S.A. Did Alaska Airlines survey a cross section of passangers or just take a small pile of complaints and conclude that they did not want to offend the secularists. Find their corporate address and e-mail your complaint. And just what does " mix religion with transportation " mean ? I have been on really rough flights and believe me, EVERYONE was praying !
-TomWow !! If you think that the airlines is thin-skinned, look at the S word that you may not say in the comment section. It took me a few seconds to figure that one out. Talk about paranoia !!
-PRMThere is a life after death.You wont be on an Alaska plane then. Jesus came to earth from heaven, gave His life, to be our Saviour. Any person that asks Him to be their Saviour will be given eternal life and will live in heaven for all eternity. Read your Bible–especially John 3:16. Otherwise you will suffer all eternity in hell wondering why you didn't Trust Jesus to be yiur Saviour. A Bible verse on a card now is just what you need.
-C. L. TrueThis may look like a small thing but it adds up quickly. We are losing our liberties one by one and the strange thing is that Christians are the majority. Alaska Airlines is pandering to the small minority. Shameful!
-EileenYou are not losing a liberty. This is a private business that made a decision about how it wants to run it operation. It has nothing to do with your liberties.
-Jeff DixonWhy are we so afraid of offending people? If my Christianity offends someone, it is their problem, not mine. At the end they willl learn that they should have listened to me. Yet, some of these do not think twice abour offending me. They insardly fear discussion because there is inate fear that we may be right, (God has put a conscience in each person) and if we are right than they will have to change. That's why I suggest that we should discuss and use "friendly persuasion".
-aceitunaWhy do you want to live in a society where no one has any concern about offending others? How can that possibly make for a more enjoyable and peaceful life?
-Jeff DixonLet see now. I get on a plane, am served a meal with a small prayer card that I don't care to have. I can do one of several things. I can slide the card under the tray so I don't have to look at it. I can give it to the steward or stewardess without comment. Or I can complain to the company enough that they remove a 30 year tradition from their airline service. I am thinking that an intelligent and considerate person would do one of the first two options. The politically correct and very thin skinned individual will most likely do the third option. If the words allah or muslum or islum had appeared there would have been no problem at all because the thin skinned, touchy feely, politically correct person wouldn't want to offend them.
-VioletYou say, " If the words allah or muslum or islum had appeared there would have been no problem at all…."
Yes there would have been, because what you posted indicates that YOU have a very BIG problem with spelling things correctly! "muslum" "islum" INDEED!
-bighossThis is another example of taking away something from everybody to avoid offending a few.
-TomHey, Alaska Airlines, aren't you aware that the majority of your passengers object to you discriminating against them by seating them in economy coach while your blatant favoritism for and prejudice in favor of wealthy individuals provides them with luxurious "first class" comforts for their affording you a share of their excess cash flow. Talk about egregious insults and put downs. When will this illegal discrimination end and all passengers get equal first class treatment?
-JulesNot having a prayer works until the aircraft noses down, sharply. On take-off. Then having a prayer, even a pre-printed one, becomes more meaningful.
I always pray when I fly. And most people of my generation do. "Where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name …"
I've had many close calls flying. God has always come through for me and the aircraft has always pulled back out of it.
-JhanDavisYou think the people on the airplanes that didn't pull out were praying?
-SteveOr are your prayers somehow more effective than those of ordinary people?
God always chooses the people he wants to save. How do we know this? They survived. There could not be any other possible reason why one person would survive over another person except that god decided to save one over the other.
If you do not believe that god picks and chooses favorites over who will be saved or killed on a daily basis, you are obviously a non believer and going to hell.
-Jeff DixonI guess they're afraid some atheist ACLU goon is gonna sue them. Bunch of worthless politically correct cowards running this company. I hope this Alaska Airlines goes out of business.
-Robert Waynethe end times indeed. what makes it funny, is that atheists are the people doing their damndest, to prove prophesy correct! anyhoo, i'm sure all that praying was interfereing with the crew's frantic screaming as the alaska airlines MD-80 plummeted into the pacific. good job alaska air, uncontrolled crying and screaming is a much better way to fall out of the sky, than silently praying.
-rickI always make sign of the cross before any full meal.At home,restaurant,airplane or boat.Whether alone or with others who don't make a sign of the cross.Before eating my lunch at work.Now retired, am the only one, between about 80 people, making sign of cross before meals in adults-home.Once a week(good weather) I go to a Maria statue downtown to pray.Hang sign "Whether glad,sad or wary,pause a while,say a Hail Mary". Some pedestrians come, touch the statue. 4 different persons came,prayed,left. Not knowing how to start a procession, I walked alone,rosary in hand,praying around a block, 6 times.Then in 2005 some people came with me.In 2008, young mother took over,got fine procession carrying big Maria statue, 50 people praying,singing from one church to another church.There Maria-crowning.Please,you(and some friends)dare to walk, praying, once a year thru some streets.Always receive H.Communion on tongue. Dare to evangelize.
-ToutSounds like the airline was just too lazy to simply ask passengers whether they wanted a prayer card or not instead of automatically putting one on everyone's tray. Then they wouldn't have to offend the majority who would want them nor offend the minority who don't.
Seems like the default position nowadays is to please non-Christians rather than Christians as all things Christian are slowly being eliminated from society by the P.C. gang.
-keyboardsharki think this was supposedly a cost saving to alaska air but it also going to be costly as prayer is the answer to all things. people should never be offended by the praying public unless they have a one way destination to hell. these prayer cards are important as alaska air is the only major line flying out of juneau, alaska and this is a huge mistake. god wins – he always does, but alaska airlines loses with this choice.
-carrita campbellAll I can say is God's mercy may not cover them. Quite honestly, I would never fly on their airlines. They have turned their back on God willingly. No one forced them to remove the cards. They should have let whoever complained fly another airline or walk. I'll guarantee God will turn His back on them. Wait and see.
-sweetcbtThis is exactly why the changes in immigration laws made by LBJ are bad for this country. There is nothing to preserve our culture. If it weren't for those changes and the influx of other religions as a result, it would be simply a matter of people understanding that they live in a predominantly Christian nation and that this kind of thing simply comes with the territory.
-Brad H.SHAMEFUL. WHY NOT JUST TAKE THE CARD BACK FROM THOSE WHO DON'T WANT IT?
-TRENA