Kirk Cameron’s Monumental task
Fireproof star Kirk Cameron is trying to put out a major inferno, and he is hoping American families can help him.
Moved by the major economic, political, and moral woes facing the United States, Cameron has been at work over the past couple years on a film project that chronicles his personal journey to historic sites across Europe and the United States, where he sought to discover the “secret recipe” that has made America the freest, richest country in history. Cameron hopes the resulting documentary, Monumental: In Search of America’s National Treasure, will help provide a path forward for today’s Americans.
“Now this is my project, but it’s about all of us, it’s about our kids and securing a monumental future for them,” he said. “How do we teach them the truths that will set them free internally and externally for the world that they live in and secure their future?”
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Regrettably, if true, I can see that this will probably be but another resource that at some point therein will laud the framer's and their secular, anti-Christian, polytheistic promoting Constitution as some great Biblical, Christian part of America's history, and that, therefore, will some day have to be burned (Acts 19:18-20) along with all of the other books, videos, etc. that have been involved in this same sedition against Yahweh, the God of the Bible.
Find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to Yahweh's moral law (His commandments, statutes, and judgments). Take our Constitution Survey at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/constitutionsurvey… and receive a free copy of the "Primer" (an 85 page book, normally $7 plus shipping) of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective."
-TedRWeilandI never heard of you before today Ted, but it is obvious that you have a well-planned agenda to push when you decry our framers as secular, anti-Christian, and polytheistic. I am mid-way through the book "The 5000 Year Leap" which goes into great detail who our founders were and where and how they put our Constitution together. They were anything but the description you set forth herein. As for Kirk Cameron, he is a voice crying in the wilderness of Hollywood for our Saviour, Yeshua, Jesus, Immanuel. The fact that you assume he will support the the "truth" about our framers that contradicts your agenda only makes me question your veracity and intentions.
-JimMcJim, my only agenda is to stand for and promote my God, Lord, King, Judge, Lawgiver and Savior (Isaiah 33:33) and His morality as codified in His perfect law and righteous judgments (Psalm 19:7-9), and to stand against anything (including the Constitution) opposed to Him, His kingdom, and His morality. My reason? To help save this nation from falling off the precipice she teeters on.
I'm very familiar with "The 5000 Year Leap." Why not take our survey for a different perspective? The book I'll send you won't cost you anything.
-TedRWeilandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_religion_…
-Davehttp://www.oup.com/us/catalog/he/subject/Religion…
Tedd I see your still pushing a book that does NOT have all the facts and is NOT completely true.
How about you do more research and put all the info out for all to see instead only your opinionated view.
http://www.christianbook.com/liberty-religious-hi…
http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/unitarians/me…
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/courses/Course…
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/resedu/butler….
These are Just a few people that are a true historian and do have actual documents to back them,Not just out of context info.
-DaveDave, *prove* I've taken things out of context and that what I've presented in the 37 online chapters is merely my opinionated view instead of a fair examination of the Constitution by Yahweh's morality as found in His commandments, statutes, and judgments. In my hundreds of hours of research, I have yet to find anyone who has examined the Constitution by this standard. Furthermore, not only did I consult and quote primary source documents, I also read every opposing book, paper, etc. (Barton, Federer, the Gibson's, etc.) that I could get my hands on. Many of these I also quote and compare their statements with what we find in the Bible.
Until you can provide yourself or someone else who has approached the Constitution from the same standard (Yahweh's morality and laws), your accusations have no substance.
-TedRWeilandIt sounds to me that you are just another shyster pushing your book. To be honest, I've never heard of you before today either. I have read all of Barton and Federer and many others, and I did not come to the same conclusion as you have regarding this nation's founders. No doubt you are educated and well versed, but I'm not sure you have the common sense that God gave geese. Kirk Cameron, is doing God's work through the gifts that God bestowed upon him. You Sir, do not have expertise to criticise him, or his work, unless of course you are also a talented film-maker, which I doubt. Generally, Ted, no one really cares what you have to say regarding the film endeavors of Mr. Cameron.
-SargeE5Sarge, thank You for sharing your concerns – and I'm not being sarcastic. Nevertheless, let me address some of what you wrote:
You said, "It sounds to me that you are just another shyster pushing your book." Except for the word "shyster," I agree with you, I'm pushing my book. In fact, I'm so convinced that we Christians have been bamboozled and taken for another ride on this issue as well that I'm offering it for free, with no strings attached.
You said, "To be honest, I've never heard of you before today either." I'm not sure what that has to do with whether what I've written is Biblically accurate or not. Perhaps, this statement and your insinuation that I'm a shyster and have less common sense than a goose puts you in the category of Proverbs 18:13.
You said, "I have read all of Barton and Federer and many others, and I did not come to the same conclusion as you have regarding this nation's founders." I would be absolutely surprised if you had come to the same conclusions as I have by reading Barton, Federer, and the others because none of them have examined the Constitution by Yahweh's morality as codified in His commandments, statutes, and judgments – the only standard by which everything (including the Constitution) must be judged.
You said, "You Sir, do not have expertise to criticise him [Kirk Cameron] , or his work, unless of course you are also a talented film-maker…." My statement had nothing to do with Cameron's film making ability. Neither was it meant to criticize him personally. Instead, my intent was to bring to light that the Constitution is not the Biblical or Christian document that we've been told it is; which is simple enough for anyone to prove. Put it to the same test I have – that is, Yahweh's morality as found in His Word.
-TedRWeilandAnd the very fact that you would write out what you believe (falsely) to be his name indicates that you have no real understanding of the Old Testament and the New. Since fifty per cent plus one of the framers of the Constitution were members of the Church which uses and understands more of the Bible than any other, I think the very form of your protest indicates that it is trash. Peddle it elsewhere.
-Lee Poteet"Twenty-eight of the forty constitutional signers were Freemasons or had Masonic connections. Sixteen presidents and thirty-five Supreme Court Justices were Freemasons, the most notable being Chief Justice John Marshall (1801-1835), reputed to be the 'Father of the Judiciary' and the 'Great Expounder of the Constitution.' Marshall served as Grand Master of the Virginia Masons from 1793 to 1795….
"Freemasons do not meet the criteria of true Christians:
'Of course Christians can pray in lodge! What they may not do is offer a specifically Christian prayer as Lodge prayer, any more than a Jew or Muslim may offer a prayer specific to his religion. The reason for this is that it is the custom of Masonry to require all to participate and assent to Lodge prayer. How can it be proper for a Christian to require non-Christians to assent to a prayer peculiar to his own peculiar belief? No Christian would assent to a prayer offered by a Jew or Muslim which essentially denied the doctrine of the trinity. Because Lodge acts in unison, prayers offered in Lodge must be of a nature that will be agreed to by all.
'To be sure, some Christians believe that only prayers given in a particularly Christian form are truly prayers. These people cannot become Freemasons because they do not subscribe to the principles of religious toleration required of Masons.' (Roger Firestone, “Difficult Questions About Freemasonry,” < ;http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/Questions/difficult.html>.)
"In other words, any 'Christian' Freemason, such as Washington, had to reject Christ’s exclusionary declaration in order to be a Freemason: 'Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.' (John 14:6)"
Excerpted from "Article 2: Executive Usurpation" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut….
-TedRWeilandAWE, Ted, You have NO clue what a freemason is or do.Unles you were one you will NOT know. I do have friends that claim to be part of the freemason and they tell me that if it was not for Christ they would not have survived for so many years. I understand it is all hear sya,but you like everyone else unless your involve with them.
-DaveDave, thanks for revealing to all of us which side of John 14:6 you stand on.
-TedRWeilandYeah the side of Abraham,Isac and Jacob. What about you? Your NOT Judge or jury. But you THINK you know more than others when IN FACT you have NOT done the FULL Research. YOU assume just by reading SOME infomation NOT all of them that your right but your NOT even close.
Your more a Legalistic than a Follower. Just like the pharacies which Jesus warn us about. I know it is a fine line but your on the wrong side of that LINE.
So Ted do some research you be surprised
-DaveFreemasons are not christian? Well, TedRW, you define 'christian' in terms of your personal agendas and opinions; there are more christians than you care to acknowledge. Mormons are Christian, Baptists are Christian, Jehovah Witnesses are Christian, Catholics are Christians, Methodists are Christians, Episcopalians are Christians…and the list goes on. And furthermore, like it or not, God does love the Jewish people.
-CJMCJM, neither your nor my opinions mean anything. Consequently, the only way to determine whether someone is truly a Christian (albeit only Yahweh knows the heart of man) is by the Word of God, and by the His Word, some of those listed above are disqualified. The criteria is not and never has been a person's claim to to Christianity – Matthew 7:21-23. I would also recommend John 14:6, Acts 4:12, 2 John 2:7-11, etc.
-TedRWeilandTed, I do believe, that when it comes to GOD and HIS relationship with Satan and his people, there is a cutting off place, when HE will let them go their on way, when HE will no longer strive with them. I believe, also that if things gets really tough people who claim a great relationship with GOD will leave you high and dry! Just keep on keeping on for HIM.
-MyrtlelinderAMEN Ted, you are correct, absolutely!!!
-MyrtlelinderLee, 26 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Pastors. The rest with a question about one was a Christian member of a congrgational church. Ted you need to read the quotes of our founding fathers. Far from Christian I think not. Far from Yahweh's moral and ethical laws…NOT !!! I hope you were not educated in India as Obama was who said this is a nation of citizens. Find the quotes Ted of Madison, Washington, Jefferson, or our first Supreme Court justice and the old give me liberty or give me death patriot's speech. Each pronounced the founding of this nation on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Madison said we were founded not ny religionists but by Christians…HELLO !!! Guess my years in the Seminary were in vain…..hmmmmmmm !!!!!
-AlwaysFaithfulThe First Supreme Court Justice was John Jay and Patrick Henry's speech. Also David Barton has a web site that is most helpful and informative in this regard, "Wallbuilders", God bless…pray II Chronicles 7:14, If my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves and pray, seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and heal their land". Israel is the apple of God's eye and as Christians we need to be as supportive and helpful as we can under the Abrahamic covenant, Genesis 12:3, "I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you" to be fulfilled in Revelation 7:9. Yes, God bless Lirk Cameron for his kingdom works through the gifts God gave him. Also "CUFI", Christians United for Israel is a great organizarion. Been to many of their meetings where Rabbi's and Pastors and church leaders speak on God's truths and Israel. They also support orphanages and hospitals in Israel.
-AlwaysFaithful"Faithful," you've disqualified yourself from this debate with your very first sentence. Until you can document that statement, you don't have a dog in this race. You might also want to read Matthew 7:21-23. What men say or claim about Christianity means little as compared to what they do. The Constitution speaks for itself as to whether it's pronomian or antinomian.
As for reading the founding fathers, I quote a good many of them in my book.
-TedRWeilandYou have some bad information there, AlwaysFaithful. The President of the United States and Commander in Chief of her Armed Forces, the HONORABLE Barack Hussein Obama, was NOT "educated in India," as you ASSert. He attended four years of elementary school in Indonesia and from the fifth grade through high school was educated at Punahou School, an elite private, non-sectarian school in Hawaii, one of the states within the United States of America. He is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School (magna cum laude) , both of which are decidedly American institutions.
Your years in the seminary did not ingrain in you a very high regard for fact-finding, did they?
-bighossYeah? Prove he went to harvard by showing me his Harvard documents. Show me the students he has alleged to have taught Constitutional law. Show me proof he was actually born in this country by proving he a Social Security number that is from Hawaii and not some dead guy from Connecticut. Or how about a BIRTH CERTIFICATE that hasn't got nine layers of adobe illustrator changes. Just a screen cap of an ORIGINAL will do unless of course you expect us to believe that pathetic forgery is legitimate. Ill show you why he had to go to Canada to get his legal name change because they wouldn't do it here. Ill show you why he can not practice law anymore anywhere in the United States. Show me ONE, JUST ONE article he has ever written to substantiate his claim for being editor of the Harvard Review. One Thesis he has written from any university, just one. I wouldn't criticize fact finding when what YOU believe are not facts at all. Especially that bit about Obama being Honorable, That one is a Hoot!
-Kent PerryYes the DISHONORABLE liar in chief WAS educated in India–and he said so himself. And if you know he somehow graduated "magna cum laude" how is it that YOU have that information when the DISHONORABLE liar in chief has had ALL of his records sealed from public view????? Sorry bighoss, you really don't have that info–nice try. Oh, by the way, he also went to a university in Moscow–that's in Russia, you know….and he said that as well.
-CJMThe Constitution is NOT a "Biblical" document and it need not be a "Biblical" document. The theocratic claims of Barton, Federer, et al. relative to the Constitution are of no more significance in validating the Constitution than are the claims of Weiland that the Constitution is invalid because it does NOT pass Biblical muster. The Constitution does not stand or fall on either basis.
-bighossNo one said it's a Biblical document just that much of it can be found in the Bible and other works but what about that? You got some problem with anything biblical it seems. I mean you're all over the place on this site doing that. Just what are you trying to prove? You Hate God ? We get that. You hate Christianity?
We get that too, so what.
-Kent PerryTed I did,!! By putting up actual historians that do research and work on their research for years.
Let me ask you this. How long did it take you to put this book together?
Now I can understand why you think that our constitution is not faith base because of words not actual being used. But the concepts are there, You just have to look and read the side lines of the founders and their comments, Which it clearly show you have NOT. So which your book has NO substance and history does.
-DaveI suggest that you redo your research and work hard and long. You may find that your own opinion will have NO substance.
Dave, providing some links does not prove anything – especially sources which have not examined the Constitution by Yahweh's law. So when *you* are actually ready to prove your accusations by quoting from the online book and proving me wrong by the Bible, the Constitution, and primary source documents, you're nothing but a bunch of hot air.
I've spent several years researching for the complete book (nearly 600 pages), which, Lord willing, will be published next month. The bibliography, which is 30 pages long, should give some kind of idea of the research and time that has gone into it.
-TedRWeilandgain Ted, You did NOT read or research those link and your stuck on your opinion.
Do a Restart Ted.
-DaveGreetings! I am a person seeking the truth, I am no Bible scholar, as you can probably tell. I seek to know all I can about the Holy Trinity. I myself come from a family that on one side left France to escape the religish persucutions, and the othe side of my family Roman Catholic. I love Isreal, and Iwant to stand with God. Kirk Cammeron has always been a shining beacon in a wayward place "Hollywood" where morales and scruples are always questionable. I think it is wonderful that he is undertaking such a wonderful task for postiarity, may his dream for the truth come true. One faith, one bapitizem, one GOD! To me the word religion only says I have a perticular way in which I am comfortable in worshiping and praising the Lord on High…it is not the faith of the heart, or soul. A true Christian walks by faith, and not by sight…for no one has seen the face of GOD. let us love one another, and prove that Jesus is alive within us. It is the truth of our Lord, and how we show it that wins others for His glory.
-Mary EllenTypical of Cameron – pure BS. It's not the freest and wealthiest country. We still have crazy religions controlling our currency, getting tax benefits and screwing up our laws with mumbo jumbo.
This guy needs a brain transplant before he does any more "thinking".
-Chris PChris,,,, that is what, whether you want to believe it or not , is what everything is about, world wide, true God worship , and false god worship!!! It has been that way since the beginning of time!!
-Pastor DwayneHey there, Chris.
I would like to ask one question in regards to just one part of your statement.
"We still have crazy religions controlling our currency." Could you tell me which "crazy religions" you feel are controlling our currency? I would also love to hear how it's impacting your life, so as to make you so bitter about it.
Thanks, Chris, and God Bless.
-petroskhan1262It says "In god we trust" on our currency. How hard is it for you to read that.
Anybody, like Cameron, who thinks that god gave us bright yellow bananas that are easy to peel and hold should be laughed off the planet.
-Chris PUmm…not wanting to overly criticize here, Chris, but I believe the question was which "crazy religion" (your words) were controlling our currency? The printing of the currency is not control over it.
Also, I did ask how that impacts your life. Pointing out four words on the back of a bill is not quite showing me how anyone "controls" something, and seems to me to have discernable impact on your life.
As I said, not trying to be too critical here, just trying to get some idea of the basis of your troubles.
God Bless.
-petroskhan1262Judging by your own words, you are the one who needs a "brain transplant"!
-JuneWow seriously? So you people think that our founding fathers of this country were christian huh.Apparently it is you who have not done your home work.Look at Washington D.C. it is a completely occult city.Built to specifications to do the work of satan himself.This is in occult teachings today all over the place.Masons have nothing to do with Christ what so ever.Again.The info is out there.On this one Pastor Weiland is correct but im not surprised that many would rather place their trust and belief in man than in our saviour YASHUA CHRIST.
-DennisDennis you have NOT did your homework. Study history,Look into founder notesand writtings. Truth will be told.
-DaveAll understanding of USA politics is available in a document called the USA Constitution. Though it has been sorely violated, it still shows the blueprint for a successful nation where incentive, not government meddling or draconian law, drives excellence. We used to be able to perform our secular duties without need for religious conflict and attend our separate faiths' gatherings with little or no interference; now defective government spawned by idiot liberal extremists who can't read or don't read the Constitution cripples our potential.
-MalikTousright;
-salimone of the few documents most hated by lucifer has been our US constitution, since it spells out in no uncertain terms a political way to preserve what heaven since the beginning has given to all created creatures:
Freedom of Conscience.
In fact, this is what the Jesuit movement fights most against, & are very vocal about it being the worst thing that has ever happened to humankind.
Not incidentally, their teachings are the foundational beliefs of the Emergent church with their meditation exercises; a dangerous ground to be upon these last days, to say the least.
May our Creator God continue to bless our individual road to salvation.
I think everyone just needs to get their eyes on Jesus and seek His salvation-or be thankful for it if you have already accepted Him. As for you, Mr. Weiland, you can argue about the Masonic connections all you want, but I am telling you, there are many Christian men who have done good work through the Masons, and have passed on to eternal glory and died not having any idea of the satanic connections you are making to the organization. I know of which you speak, because I have read about that connection, but I will tell you, most Masons-dead or alive-have no clue about this background. You cannot tell me that keeps those who were Christians out of heaven. God looks at the heart and does not turn away a penitent sinner. Let's focus on being like Christ and seeking ONLY God's way, and enough already of the arguing doctrines and organizational beliefs!
-CHARLIESeek Truth. Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man cometh unto the Father but by Me." What is Truth?…that which is equal to or the same as the original. That's what Christ claimed to be…equal to and the same as the Original, God. Therefore, God's final exam is this…John 3:18 "He who believes in Him (Christ) is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
-Dan GehmanIf you start with the Truth, a whole bunch of empty arguments are out the window as worthless. May God open the Spiritual eyes of any and all who do not believe in Christ Jesus.
This is the view of people who try to push any religion.
-Jeff Dixonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crgQGdpZR0&fe…
CJM, my statement that "Faithful" had disqualified him or herself from the debate was not to say that he (or she) could not post whatever he chooses to – I have no control or say regarding what he posts. Instead my point was that his claim that 26 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were pastors (when only John Witherspoon and Lyman Hall were) is so ridiculous (and easily proven so) that he disqualified anything else he had to say as being worthy of serious consideration.
-TedRWeilandI thought the US constitution called for equal treatment of its citizens – something the religious don't like to do. They hate all sorts of people and suppress them in the name of religion.
-Chris PRather broad statement, I think. Aside from islam and atheism, I can't think of another religion that espouses the hatred you profess.
-petroskhan1262You must read these posts with blinders on. The amount of hate that erupts from the Christians on a daily basis on this site alone is staggering.
And BTW, Atheism is not a religion.
-Jeff DixonLast things first. Dictionary.com defines religion this way:
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Note the words "especially", "usually" and "and often" used there. Those are words that indicate that what follows is not a requisite component of the definition, just parts of it that are frequently found to be true. So, the only part of the definition that is required to define "religion" is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the universe." Atheists DO have a set of beliefs concerning those things. Ergo, Atheism IS a relgion. Or rather, more accurate, perhaps, to say it is a religious viewpoint.
As for the main topic. Blinders on? Not at all.
If we are going to define a Christian as one who follows the teachings of Christ, then it's simple to see that those who might CALL themselves Christian, yet spew the intolerant hatred you reference are not Christian at all. "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." (Matt. 5:44) Not quite the same as the attitude you are pointing out.
Please note, I am not disagreeing with you, brother. There is far too much anger from those who claim to follow Christ, directed at those who do not. That's not what Christ taught. And if those who spew forth that anger and condemnation are not following the teachings of the One they claim to follow, then they are not truly following Him.
So, it's not blinders I am using. It is simply a higher set of standards.
-petroskhan1262Speaking the truth Jeff some times hurt but you call it hate,Man your twisted.
-DaveChris it is time to grow up, The truth hurts and you can NOT run from it, But you call telling the truth hateful because it does hurt, So to avoid the pain of hearing the truth you twist and turn so you can make what right inot a wrong.
So GROW UP!!
-DaveThere is no hate like the hate of the anti-GOD, anti-CHRIST
-MyrtlelinderUS Constitution Article VII . The word "Lord" appears. Who is this Lord? Oh it is only Jesus Christ , who had nothing to do with anything! Right! I never knew there were so many atheists 75 years before Dawins great hoax lol
-brianNot only Jesus Christ, HE IS JESUS CHRIST, SON OF GOD, SAVIOR OF THE WORLD, THE ONE WHO DIED A MOST HORRIBLE DEATH ON A CROSS FOR YOU AND FOR ME. HE WILL RETURN FOR HIS OWN. EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND VERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS THAT HE IS LORD
-MyrtlelinderI see that the "yah" wehists are still hard at it. Yes, free masons were called in to build things…but that is because they were the best at their trade…NOT because all our founders were freemasons/ Jesuits. The Declaration of Independence IS part of the Constitution of the United States, and lauds ONE Creator and much more. I for one don't want the Old Testament Laws of the Nation of Israel, you Yahwehists (those who say we MUST use this name or variation of it), would like them, but then why don't you just adopt Islamic Laws, you will have the same results…Kill adulters, kill murderers in the same way they killed (like that sick Showtime show about serial killer who kills serial killers). Legalists for salvation or just as insane as Extreme Islamists, and if they don't care for the Freedoms they have here, move to Iran or Iraq.
-DuaneDon, thanks for the effortless cool you exposed to our lives. Go along with God and strut around the Soul Train Line with all the angels.
-Oscar Schollmeier