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Obama could lose Catholic vote over HHS mandate

The growing Catholic outcry against a recent health insurance mandate could threaten President Obama’s support “among a key group of swing voters that was critical to his victory in 2008,” political writer George Condon says.

According to an analysis released by the Pew Research Center on Feb. 2, Catholics have shifted away from Democratic Party since the 2008 election.

George E. Condon, Jr., a political writer for the nonpartisan National Journal, wrote in a Feb. 1 article that although Obama won the Catholic vote in the 2008 election, recent dissatisfaction among Catholics could be detrimental to his 2012 efforts for a second term.

Condon tied Obama’s change in political fortune to the Jan. 20 announcement by the Department of Health and Human Services that virtually all employers will be required to purchase health insurance that includes coverage for sterilization and contraception, as well as the drug Ella, which can cause early abortions.

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  • Bobseeks

    Fat chance; the catholics have a long history of supporting the democrat party in spite of the fact that it is the most anti-Christian organization on earth. Catholics are wallet voters and could not care less about the fact that their votes have turned the USA into a modern Sodom and that they are as guilty of the murder of millions of babies as any abortionist. The catholic leadership has long had a cozy relationship with the democrats in cesspools like Chicago and they are part of the power structure in many other democrat controlled cesspools. Forget about catholics turning against the democrats en masse, it just isn't going to happen because catholicism is a "heritage faith" rather than a real faith.

    • daves

      I think that once Catholic women realize that a bunch of celibate men want them to have to pay for their own birth control, rather than have it covered by insurance, they will support the President

  • Sama

    As a "non-wallet" Catholic voter who cares VERY much where my vote goes, I must inform you Catholics have been the MAJORITY of Christians against abortion since…forever. My faith is not and never has been a 'heritage' thing. Your generalizations are way off.
    Secularism is rampant in all Christian churches. Take that to the bank. Either we follow the Ten Commandments or we don't. "Man" seems to always have a better idea. Look at all the sects that have sprung up because of it.

    Now the government has decided it has a 'better' plan than the Ten Commandments.
    Consider WHO is your source. Is it The Holy Trinity or is it your government.

    • Bobseeks

      And by the way, catholics are not Christians because they abandoned the Bible years ago to follow the false teachings of the heretic popes. Examine your false faith against the teachings of the Bible and you will see just how far you have strayed from GOD's Word.

    • daves

      Sama – you never work on the Sabbath?

      • Woolfy

        Jesus worked on the Sabbath, didn't he?

        • daves

          I thought we were discussing the ten commandments – not Jesus.

  • Woolfy

    Excellent post Sama.

    • Bobseeks

      But totally in error – catholics are, for the most part, democrats and all democrats are guilty of supporting abortion. To be against abortion and to be a democrat are the sign of someone who is either ignorant or who is more concerned about secular issues than religious ones. I do not vote my wallet like most catholics I know, I vote my faith and my faith says no to democrat murderers.

  • mesaman

    The focus here should be on voting against Obama, the pretender president, not on Bobseek whose personal agenda needs to be on Huff'nPuff-AHoleL. I would hope Catholics could vote to retire Obama based on his faulty, insipid record, and his ungrateful attitude towards America, not on some moot discussion of tenets.

    • Bobseeks

      The discussion is moot only to pseudo-Christians who make up their own religion and try to call it "Christian". We would not be in the mess we are in if it were not for these apostates. Catholics will not turn against maobama because they are faithless wallet voters and their faith is not a true faith.

      • mesaman

        Take the plunge, bub. Apostacy is an option, assuming you haven't already been ex-communicated, then you can become a true liberal, God-hating, agnostic, maybe even an atheist.

        • Bobseeks

          Being excommunicated from the satanic church of rome would be an honor any Christian should covet. Look at the lieberal vermin who are in the church that haven't been excommunicated because the church lacks the moral courage to do so.

          • Deep_Thinker

            You should be the leader of the church! You seem to know everything!! All of us should bow to you…

          • daledor

            That is the point, we only bow to Jesus – not man. This is the falicy of having to go through a pope or priest to get to God. We can intercede for each other, confess our faults one to another, etc but Jesus is the only one who can forgive. Jesus said, "your sins be forgiven you" to some but He is the Son of God and not man. I can say that I forgive your sins as a Christian but unless you are right with God or pursuing Him or opening your heart to Him then we waste our time.

    • Sama

      Obama doesn't have my vote to lose. Never had it.
      He will surely never get it!

  • Hurricane

    Bobseeks you've got diarrhea of the mouth.

    If you did even just a little research you'd know that Jesus started and stayed with only one church – the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church.

    JOHN 10:1 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber;

    • Bobseeks

      Hurricane: You have rotting of the brain if you believe that the holy, catholic and apostolic Church refers to the roman catholic church – the church that deifies mary and the popes. The church of rome is heretic and left the fold years ago.

    • daledor

      "the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church"????
      Matt 16: 13-20 Jesus asked his disciples who people said He was then He asked THEM what they thought. Peter responded, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied that Peter was blessed because God His Father had shown this REVELATION to him and he got it. Jesus said, "You are Peter (petros – little rock). Upon this Rock (petra – which was the REVELATION of Him being the Son Of God) I will build My Church (assembly of believers) and the powers of hell will not conquer it. Then He gave the disciples, not just Peter (he was talking to all of them and responded to Peter’s obedience to God) the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven.

      Jesus was focused on the revelation that His Father God had given Peter that He was the “Son of the Living God”. He had trained all to be his disciples, not just Peter. Everything he had done was to bring ALL mankind close to God. When asked later by the disciples, "teach us to pray" He said, "OUR FATHER who is in Heaven, Holy and Sacred is Your Name. YOUR KINGDOM COME, YOUR WILL BE DONE—–". This was the model prayer for all of us. He did not say, talk to Me or talk to Peter but He said Pray to the Father in HIS NAME (above all names). Read the Bible – it is all there! The Pope, a priest, or a pastor may be good people but they are not our Mediator to God the Father, only Jesus is! Praise Him, He is WORTHY OF ALL HONOR AND GLORY AND PRAISE FOREVER AND EVEEEER (book of Revelations).
      Keep your faith in Jesus brother!

      • msjallen

        Peter never went to Rome; Paul did. Where in the Bible is the proof that Peter went to Rome?
        Mt 16:18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon THIS ROCK I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.
        Peter’s original name was Cephus and means: little stone and Barjonah means: Bar = son, Jonah = his father’s name in the Aramaic. Little Stone Son of Jonah into Greek is Petros, a little stone in a group of bigger stones. Peter, and on THIS ROCK Petra is what Peter SAID, not about Peter himself. Petra is a gigantic rock made up of a lot of little stones. We are little stones in the gigantic rock, the Royal Family of God; The Church: not a building but all believers of this age.
        Oikodomeo – to build on the ROCK Christ Jesus, not a stone or any human including Peter.

      • msjallen

        I Peter 2:4-8 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER STONE," and, "A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE"; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed. (Christ is the Rock, not the Church or Peter.)

  • Chris

    Sure – go ahead Catholics – vote for those crazy Republicans that want all the money for the rich.

    If you vote based on single issues you shouldn't be voting at all.

    • Sama

      I am a conservative. Never in my 60some years have I EV ER voted a straight ticket. Had to pick and choose by the candidates bio, his plans and his ability to get something positive done for America.
      Yep, I'm a Catholic.
      Never has one issue about a candidate settled my vote.

      • Sama

        But being pro-infanticide will definitely get someone OFF my possible list.

  • aceituna

    Unfortunently too many voters go into the voting booth uninformed and vote as their Parents, or religion, or friends, or someone influential suggests. They do not study the issues. They may just vote for a familiar name, or some organization (example – ACORN) has recruited them and told they which way to vote – some even arrange for them to vote several times. PEOPLE need to be ENCOURAGE to do their HOMEWORK!

  • mesaman

    Why don't you join Bobbsey in a game of Russian roulette? The winner can become a born again Republican and leave the democrats on the sinking ship.

  • smitty

    I don't see how any Catholic – or any Christen or Jew can, vote for Obama or his minions.

  • June

    Obama-soetoro SHOULD loose "every sane voter", in this country – -he has already LOST HIS SOUL TO SATAN!