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Archbishop Says Obama Compromise Does Not Go Far Enough

Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan, the president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, said on Sunday that he was heartened that the White House was paying attention to his church’s objections to a new national policy on birth control coverage, but remained opposed to a policy that requires insurers to pay for contraception for employees of Catholic institutions.

Using more conciliatory language than that in a statement the bishops’ conference had issued late Friday, Archbishop Dolan said in a brief interview that “there are so many unanswered questions” regarding the compromise, and that it was “too early for us to give a judgment one way or the other.”

Archbishop Dolan, the Roman Catholic archbishop of New York, made his comments shortly after as he arrived at Fiumicino airport on Sunday afternoon for a week of celebrations that will culminate with his elevation to cardinal.

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  • Scarface

    We would expect nothing less from this carnival administration. Oprahbama will start off with a lie and then try to sell a half-lie.This Manchurian Administration will bring our beloved republic to an end….IF WE DO NOTHING TO PREVENT IT!

    • daves

      I cannot believe this – the Archbishop is completely off the hook for buying contraception for employees of Catholic organizations but what he really want is for these employees to not have coverage.

      • Wayne

        You must not understand commitment to principle or Church Doctrine.

        • daves

          I must not – I thought that what Jesus taught us is what is important.

          • Bobseeks

            While you are correct, we all know that you know nothing of Jesus; therefore you are a hypocrite.

          • daves

            "But I say to you that anyone who is angry with a brother will be subjected to judgment. And whoever insults a brother will be brought before the council, and whoever says ‘Fool’ WILL BE SENT to fiery hell."
            ~ Matthew 5:22

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Bobbie is nobodies brother.

  • Sama

    Obama's efforts to create laws for the Catholic Church is only a symptom of his disease.
    Obama considers birth control disease control. Children are a disease to him.
    Mr. Obama does not have the authority to 'appoint czars' who then make enforceable laws.
    Congress makes the laws.
    Obama is ruling by fiat. Its about CONTROL of the people by the government.
    He is setting precedents. Precedents are then accepted by the Supreme Court.
    Hope everyone is keeping their eyes OPEN. Be sure to look under all the little cups.
    There is more than one pea under there.

    • msjallen

      Even though 0 is showing his true colors it shows that people in this country are NOT paying attention. As goes the believer so goes the nation. We will have the wrong leaders in this country as long as believers do not live as unto the Lord. I am not talking about religion but Bible Doctrine from the Word of God.
      II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
      Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD," Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength, and whose heart turns away from the LORD

      • Kalev

        Amen brother, amen.

  • agbjr

    Churches – ALL denominations – are becoming united against Obama's unconstitutional dictates and intrusion into matters of religion. On one selected and agreed Sunday all churches in the USA should dust-off the old "politically incorrect" hymnals and lift their voices as one congregation to "Onward Christian Soldiers" and the "Battle Hymn of the Republic". The First Amendment should also be read from the pulpit.

  • Sama

    (according to obama, birth control keeps a woman's body healthy)
    Who knew we had such a magic pill for overall health. Men should be demanding theirs!
    Our government is Out of Control.
    By fiat we will all be healthy now.
    By fiat we will all be safe when guns are outlawed.
    By fiat we will all be smart when opposing opinions are shut down.
    By fiat we will all be more comfortable when no one has more than anyone else whether they worked for it or not.
    Obama is the Change that Changes. The Hope that has no future.
    Catholics are right to stand against this man.
    All the anti-Catholic blathering going on is just gravy for 'the man'. He is laughing all the way to his throne of tyranny.

    • Bobseeks

      Sama: The church of rome helped put maobama on that throne of tyranny, therefore it is the grossest hypocrisy to whine about that same tyranny. Christians cannot make common cause with one evil to fight another and Christians should not be sympathetic to the church of rome. Catholics brought this on themselves when they supported the evil agenda of the democrat party. Every time a catholic votes for a democrat he or she votes for abortion, gay rights, and the whole filthy agenda of the left. The catholics have long been a willing partner in the democrat's plan to destroy America and now they are learning what happens when you partner with evil.

      • Paul

        And now, perhaps, they will finally see the consequence of putting man ahead of God?

      • Wayne

        Very well said!

  • http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland

    As it concerns separation of church and state: "Ultimately, the secularists could not keep their hands off even the church itself, as evidenced by, among other things, their tax exempt 501(c)(3) licensing of most churches. Despite what the courts would have us believe, secularism is not religiously neutral. Secularists may proclaim separation of church from state, but they promote the integration and supremacy of the state over the church." Excerpted from "Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut….

    • evermyrtle

      Their main aim is the church. If they could destroy that, their evil deed would be accomplished. They have not a clue that, that is impossible!!! It was made by GOD along with the entire world and everything in it and it is HIS, they cannot destroy man's faith in GOD or HIS CHURCH.

      • Paul

        Their aim is off.

        Yes, they think that if they remove "the church" (the organizations, the institutions) they will be free to do whatever they want unbridled by any "morality".

        But God is not mocked.
        God cannot be destroyed, nor removed.
        God is true, even when every man is a liar.

        I am still amazed at the patience, that God shows us. At the fact that He does not wish that any should perish, but desires that all would change their mind and their direction and turn to Him, the only One who can save us from the destruction we're heading into headlong and eyes wide open. That He still loves us and gives us opportunity after opportunity to examine the evidence, the consequences of doing it "our way", and to turn from that and seek Him.

        • http://www.missiontoisrael.org TedRWeiland

          Very well said!

  • evermyrtle

    Don't trust him to really back off. He is just getting prepared for a "full running start!" and go again at his target.

  • Chris

    You clowns – why should a made up religion dictate what women get in the way of health care. This is complete and utter stupidity. Women need birth control pills for reasons other than contraception. Some would die or become infertile/

    But no we have to listen to some silly puppet of a clown in Rome to tell us how to run our health care system.

    This is NOT a theocracy. If the Catholic bishops sai you could only drive on the left – would you follow them like sheep?

    No. Tell these religious people to stay out of government. You didn't like the idea of Sharia law being put into US law – I hat the idea of incorporating Roman Catholic law.

    • Bobseeks

      Chris: As usual, you miss the point because your hatred of the truth and your love of the lies of atheism affects your thinking. The issue here is not whether or not women can use contraceptives, the issue is whether or not a godless, atheistic, corrupt government can force religious organizations to buy insurance that pays for contraceptives when doing so violates their religious beliefs. These women can pay for their own birth control pills if they want just as I pay for those things my insurance does not cover, While I agree with your dislike of the heretic church of rome and I have no sympathy for the church of rome because it played a large part in putting these atheist scum in power, that still does not erase the fact that the atheist murders that run our government do not have the right to force these organizations to buy this insurance. I am happy to see that the catholics have been betrayed by the democrats because it will teach them a lesson about what happens when you betray Christ by embracing both the evil of heresy and the evil of the democrat party.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        We do not allow religious people to prevent their children from getting proper medical care, when their religious beliefs endanger the child's life. It is the same issue here. There is nothing that says the religious people MUST use the contraceptives.

        However, bobbie, I have long realized that expecting you to grasp rational concepts is expecting far too much of you.

        • Bobseeks

          As usual you use two things that have no relation to each other to "prove" your argument. This is a form of lying and lying is the tactic of those who have no rational argument to make. Once again you give evidence of your irrational and deceitful nature.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Nonsense. You claim that the law is forcing religious people to do something against their religious beliefs. When a religious person does not want to use medical procedures to help their children, but instead pray to an imaginary god instead, it is the exact same thing. However, as I mentioned already, your inability to grasp rational concepts is obvious whenever you post.

          • Bobseeks

            You can spin your lies all you want, that does not make you any less irrational, any less a liar, and any less a fool.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Not spinning or lying about anything. I am explaining how the issues are similar, since you are incapable of grasping the issue at hand.

      • Kalev

        Bobseeks, you are right but why must you give this fool any audience by replying to his idiocy?

        • Bobseeks

          You are correct, I will have to wean myself away from responding to his lies.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          Kalev, you are right, your opinion on having the state of Israel assassinate the president is so much relevant and completely not insane at all. So, please, continue to explain how it is important for our allies to kill our political leaders.

        • daledor

          The purpose of our Government is supposed to represent the people and not go against the people. As government gets bigger our personal and moral and ethical rights are abolished and replaced by state rule – not 'government of the people, by the people, for the people'. If you think giving government more and more reign over your life and ours is wise then I have one scripture for you, "thinking themselves wise in their own eyes, they become fools." Answer that with your moral relativism and you prove this point true!

    • Paul

      Then in response, we can say we don't appreciate the religion of atheism dictating our laws either.

      Birth control is SELDOM used for medicinal purposes. But it is in some cases – since it is the easiest means of delivering hormonal treatments that may be medically needed for the prevention of ovarian cysts, endometriosis, debilitating menstrual cramps.

      But then, it needs to be re-classified for those purposes, and stop being used as the main means for allowing unbridled lust (sex without the consequence of children) to drive us.

      There is only one absolutely sure way to prevent children and sexually transmitted diseases. Don't engage in sex.

      No prescription needed. No increase in breast cancer rate as a result of using this method. Absolutely no chance it will fail.

      The next step after mandated availability of a contraceptive, is the mandated use of it.

      • Chris P

        There is no increase in breast cancer from using the pill – that's a lie the Christians propagate. "Unbridled lust" is joke – animals have sex for other reasons than procreation – it assures bonding.

        If you don't like the pill – DON'T TAKE IT.

        The Roman Catholic church has been one of the main contributors to overpopulation on this planet because its goals are to have a larger congregation to feed the man in Rome. Man has managed to be too successful and the church has helped. Too many Duggars on this planet selfishly stealing resources by having larger families than are sustainable under the pretext that God "blessed" them

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        Luckily, there is no religion of atheism, so you do not have to worry about that non-issue.

      • daledor

        You are right on! However, socialist 'goose steppers' that follow agenda rather than reason do not believe in personal responsibility and accountability – if they screw up then it is everyone else's fault.

    • Paul

      It is theocracy. Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords.
      No government exists apart from God's allowing it.
      Not even Pilate, who gave the order for Jesus' "execution" had any power but that which God allowed him to have at that moment.

      Either we acknowledge King Jesus now, and live like it, or we will acknowledge Him later and regret it.

      For every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess, in heaven, on earth, and under the earth, that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

      There are many made up "religions".
      But there is only one God.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        The made up religions are all based on the same faulty premise. That there is any god for their religion to be based on. And this includes your made up religion about Jesus as well.

      • Bobseeks

        That GOD being the GOD of the Christians – all other gods are false gods.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          No, sorry, the god of the Christians is just as false as all the others.

      • Chris P

        That is complete and utter rubbish. There are plenty of governments in other countries that are nothing to do with god.

        If there is only one inerrant god why are there so many religions all claiming they are inerrant?

        So presumably YOU are the ONLY correct religious person – again total nonsense.

    • Wayne

      As well, we who have faith in a Power greater than ourselves and government which we call God, wish to have the Government not tell us how to live our lives for our God. As long as Obama intends to create laws that are adversary to God, and as long as we the governed are willing to just accept it and not fight against it, we can expect the judgements of God that come along with it.

      • Chris P

        Atheists do not tell you how to live your lives for god but they do tell you to drive on the right side of the road and provide adequate health insurance to your employees. Religions cannot pick and choose what civil rules to obey.

    • ceejay

      Who appointed you to be JUDGE and JURY of someone's RELIGION? Who are you calling CLOWNS, STUPID and SILLY?
      You LIBTARDS always espouse the separation of CHURCH and STATE – so leave our RELIGION ALONE. Are you LUCKY your mother chose LIFE or this world would have one less IGNORAMUS to contend with.

      • Chris P

        I am not an ignoramus you rude and nasty Christian. I helped develop the disk drive that's in your silly computer – and that was when I was just out of college. I have over 20 patents.

        I am not judge and jury on your religion because your religion disagrees with every other religion. The judgement is already in – thousands of other religions are atheistic to your religion.

        When you can get all people to agree with what your religion is then you might have a case.

        Right now – you have no clue who I am or what I know – you are just throwing rocks because it's a threat to some made up stuff that was (According to statistics) put into your head as a child by (probably) YOUR mother. My mother didn't teach me garbage – she taught me to be observant and think for myself. I observed that Christians are not "Christian" – that they cannot agree and that Christians behave worse than atheists. Statistics show there are more in jail. You confirm my observations – nasty comments made without knowledge. The antithesis of Christianity.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          Frankly, I could care less if Christians did act like they are supposed to. It is amusing that they do not follow the rules and laws of their god, but that just shows they are human. The issue is whether Jesus is god, and furthermore, whether there is actually a god or not.

          No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus came well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings.

          Was there ever a person actually called Jesus? There were actually many different people called Jesus. The name was actually very common during that period. Josephus, the first century Jewish historian mentions no fewer than nineteen different people named Jesus and about half of them were contemporaries of the supposed Christ. It is highly likely that the stories of the various people called Jesus got confused or lumped together.
          http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/surfeit.htm

          There are many man-god myths from around the world. It is fascinating how similar many of them are to the concept of Jesus. Many of these stories are from religions that are older than Christianity. If older religions had developed the concept of the god-man before Christianity did, it is hardly a stretch to accept that Christianity borrowed from these myths to develop its tale.

          I call the story of Jesus a myth because it is founded on a myth and is supported by a myth. Jesus had to die for our sins. The concept of original sin was developed because Adam sinned against God. But there was no Adam, no Garden of Eden. It is a myth. We know this from the study of geology, biology and astronomy.

          If there is no original sin, there is no reason for Jesus to die on the cross to atone for us. (By the way, when he was dead for those three days, was the Trinity reduced to a Duality for that period of time? Just curious.)

          We know the stories of the Flood, Jonah and the sun stopping in the sky are a myth, as well as many others. How do we know this? From the study of geology, biology and astronomy. Since Jesus confirms the Old Testament, we know he cannot be all knowing and is a myth as well.

          Krishna, Buddha, Mithra and Horus are all examples of the man-god myth from different religions. These are all from older religions, yet they encompass many of the same elements as Christianity. It seems odd that so many other religions describe the elements of Christianity before Jesus was supposed to have existed. Christians try to explain this away by stating that these other religions actually copied Christianity. A rather odd explanation when the other religions are older than Christianity. My favorite is when they say Satan created the other religions to confuse mankind. Most of these have the same version of the man-god. Born of a virgin, 12 disciples, killed, often crucified, Dec 25 is a pivotal time point. The same story repackaged for a new audience.

          Hercules was mentioned by Flavius Josephus. Should we assume that man-god actually existed based on that? How is that any different than Christians insisting that only a real person would be mentioned by ancient historians?

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Actually, could not care less.

        • ceejay

          . Which STATISTICS are you referring to ? LIBTARDS just go into a VERBAL DIARRHEA and REGURGITATE the same RUBBISH. We are tired of listening – WHO CARES what you think.

    • Sppamelot

      How does NOT making the Catholic Church, or any church for that matter, stop a woman from getting contraception that is handed out freely at any clinic? Planned Parent hood, in their desire to keep people from reproducing gives it away. So your assertion that this somehow hinders a woman from getting contraception is disingenuous to say the very least. An outright lie is more correct. But then that is what liberals are know for.
      How about if they want contraception, they pay for it themselves!? Wow, what a thought. Not making someone else pay for your decisions. Let me guess, not in your thought process. You want to be taken care of by everyone else.
      What a leech.

  • http://- David

    One can easily say that this "compromise" is a distinction without a difference. The underlying principle for Catholics is that human life begins at conception. Catholics hold tenaciously to that principle. Whether, there are just two cells or untold millions of them, left alone they develop into a new child, who still has to be nurtured into a independent human being.

    We cannot make a distinction any where along that developmental line, period.

    This proposal saying we are off the hook if we don't pay the premium is faulty thinking. No matter who pays or even if nobody pays, the termination of life is abhorent

    to Catholics who understand the value of a soul.

    • Chris P

      Life doesn't stop so it cannot start under present conditions.

      If the termination of life is so abhorrent why do you guys vote to allow guns, why do you support the militaristic Republicans, why did not stop Hitler, why do you allow women to die when they need an abortion.

      You are hypocrites.

  • Paul

    This is a slippery slope in the loss of freedom:
    1) mandated birth control availability, INCLUDING the abortifacient "morning after" pill
    2) mandated birth control, including abortifacients, ostensibly to keep our country solvent by limiting the burdens of an increasing population
    3) mandated abortions, to enforce #2 (since many will not be following it)
    4) total population management by government decree, "for the good of the people"

    In order to accomplish #4, it is essential that the following also be in effect (and they are simultaneously being encouraged already)
    - government enforced education and curricula where from the first children can be indoctrinated into the "new world order" which is essential for total population control
    - the loss of freedom to own property (eminent domain), or to protect yourself (removal of the second amendment- because if you can protect yourself you can fight back against tyranny and that isn't in the plan)
    - government controlled health care, so it can be decided, "for the good of the country" how our limited health services should be distributed and applied
    - assisted suicide and end of life counseling, so people can choose to "die with dignity" (instead of "being a burden" on others)
    - age limits – how long is long enough to live after all? If you aren't a "contributing member of society" perhaps you've lived long enough
    - mercy killing of "undesirables"

    Think I'm off my rocker? Conspiracy theorist?
    Just look at the rest of the world. These are all real things, going on in real places, affecting real people in other countries, and being encouraged as "humane" and "for the good of the planet". And the USA, is falling prey to the same behavior modification and false "logic" and pseudo-science which is used to support these steps toward tyranny – and we're accepting it with open arms.

    Satan, the great deceiver, is driving our philosophy (we're just a result of evolution, so life of the individual is unimportant, but improvement of the species should be sought to "help" evolution along). The world, this country, the individual, are all lost in these sinful activities.

    And God is allowing it, so we can see the consequences of our actions, and discover that we are wrong, and God is right (repentance, changing of our minds about our own righteousness and agreeing with God that we are instead all sinners). God is right, and in His compassion He lets us "have our head" so we can learn, and fail, and turn back to Him, the only one with the solution to our problems.

    And that solution is Jesus Christ. The One who gave Himself on the cross for us – paying the penalty for sin we owed, so we could have God's righteousness through Him.

    Fighting this mandate or that position, or this edict and that law should not occupy our time. The time grows short. Instead of trying to make a peaceful place in this world where we all can "just get along", we are seeing a heightened need to bring the Good News of Jesus Christ to an ever more lost world. And they will hate us. They will try to silence us. And they will have to decide how they will judge or punish us – because we cannot be silent. We must tell what we know. We must be witnesses of the glory and goodness of God, and His mercy to an ungrateful undeserving people.

    • Kalev

      Yes! This is the NWO at work, four more years of Obama and our Republic will be crushed, but the GOP has no real conservative candidate, 3 are RINO's and one is aLibertarian at heart (Libertarians agree that abortion and homosexual rights should be should be available and legal).

      • Paul

        There is only one candidate who can cure our disease.
        The candidate who appeals to our hearts to change our minds about right and wrong.
        The candidate who has the only plan that can save us from the coming destruction.

        That candidate is Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, the Son of God – who God has already made Lord, but who the people have not yet accepted.

        Vote for this candidate. Receive this candidate. Let this candidate give the only Change that matters. Let this candidate give us the sure Hope.

        Receive the Lord Jesus in faith and be saved. No government, or authority, no army, no executive order given by man or Satan himself will be able to bring us to harm or destruction when Jesus is our Lord.

        • Chris P

          What a load of stinking rubbish. Most other sensible countries provide birth control and have less deaths from cars and guns.

          You people just ignore reality. You want to deny gays the right to marry but cannot stay married yourselves.

          Living in a dream world. There cannot possibly be a heaven. You clearly don't understand how your own brain works.

  • ONTIME

    The arch bishop is being kind and respectful to the office of the POTUS.
    The uncredentialed person sitting behind the desk in the Oval Office is once again rearranging the deck chairs on this ship of state in order to continue to confuse, belittle and scam those who would listen to his snake oil medicine show talk…..

    • Chris P

      Most of us voted for him and not a stupid child abuse condoning guy wearing womens clothes who wants to control women's lives.

      You are the ones with the snake oil – you claim the ability to cure people by prayer but rely on the reality of science instead.

      Lying hypocrites.

      • ONTIME

        You voted for the Mysery Man! Well as long as we are confessing I voted for Nixon…. once.

        What kind of GPA do you suppose he has?…your boy.

  • Chemiker

    This is not about birth control. It is about power, nothing more nor less.

    Obama and his ilk need to destroy any opposition. They love abortion, but hate private ownership of firearms. They love public propaganda schools, but hate charter schools and home schooling. Anything that they cannot control, they hate. They love big business (if the contributions are correct – think Chrysler and GE), but hate small business. They hate God's religion so much because honest, faithful, religion opposes their control of the people. Power is their religion; not the teachings of Abraham, Isaac, David, and Jesus.

    • evermyrtle

      I think it is more about controlling population, and controlling Christians as well as complete control over America. . At least that is what he has in mind, and don't think for a moment that he intends to back off more that for a moment and then he will back with his birth control tactics. Who does he think he is fooling??.

      • Chris P

        There are too many people on this planet for the resources. How will adding more people help this planet?

        There are already not enough jobs, not enough water, not enough crop land and on and on.

    • Chris P

      You are the control freaks – sorry.

  • Winston

    The real problem with the so-called Obama Compromise on the birthcontrol provision in his illegal Healthcare law is that it is both a lie and deceptive. By him saying he'll compromise to pacify the Roman Catholics only means he's making private enterprise healthcare insurance companies to offer it "free" (lie) when the insureds will be paying for it in their premiums, so there's no compromise at all…a huge LIE…the work of Satan, as Obama has an anti-Christ spirit perhaps he isn't even aware of… just as he's a delusional anti-Christian in his closet Islamic faith.

    • Chris P

      We all need proper health insurance you goons. I am sick and tired of some people paying $400 a year on TriCare, young people paying $120 per month and other people not being able to get any insurance. The system is totally stupid and wrong and needs to be fixed.

      We need single provider. No more of these bake sales and please for help because people had no or little insurance. People are dying because they don't have proper health insurance and here we have so called "Christians" fighting it.

      Your heads are screwed up- denying people health insurance because it interferes with your "belief".

  • linnie

    Christians-
    If you are truly true to your faith
    There should be NO compromise
    The goverment has NO business
    In your home life and your church life.!
    If you are serious about stopping goverment intersion
    Send a strong and loud message to your elected officals
    And this unconciuosble White House goverment
    That this is not acceptable.!

    • Bobseeks

      Amen!

    • Kalev

      Amen from me too!

    • Chris P

      We don't want any business in your home and church life. We just want to make sure that your employees that don't believe your magic rubbish get proper health insurance coverage like most of you do. You don't fix yourselves with prayer – you hypocritically rely on health insurance.

  • e.rebus

    This "compromise" is enlightening concerning the thinking of the President. Like so many socialist it all boils down to money. Hey if you are not paying for it then who cares! The President would force a third party to pay which in his mind would relieve the Catholic church of all concerns while forcing another group to pay, the policyholders of the insurance companies. I'm surprized that a man many claim is so smart could be so stupid.
    Of course the Catholic Church shares some of the blame. Through thier hospitals and cother charities they take many Federal dollars and now they want to not follow the dictates of the group that gives them a lot of money. During de-segragation the South tried that and we all know how effective it was.
    Nope If the Catholic Church sups with the Devil at his table then have no right to colplain about the menu. This wholemess is another fine example of hypocriscy.

    • Chris P

      The military is socialism. Our roads and government is socialism. The opposite of socialism is anarchy.

      Without controls your doctor could be a witch doctor and you wouldn't know. As it si you don't go to a priest or resort to prayer to be cured.

  • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

    There is no need. The current material is all that is required.

    • Bobseeks

      Zzzzzzzzz…….

  • LWH

    The smart money says; kill obama off, right away. Just 86 him and be done with it!

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Why, oh why do people say that Christians are open to violence?????

      • Kalev

        That's an assumption that LWH is a Christian. BTW, God commanded the sons of Israel to kill all of the people of the seven nations in the promised land… because they were evil godless peoples, just like Obama is. So, as I have stated before, I would have no problem if some type of professional group "86'ed" him. He IS evil.

        • Bobseeks

          Indeed he is, unfortunately, there are tens of millions just like him. We have to pray that GOD opens their eyes to the truth.

          • Chris P

            Christians showing their hate. Proof positive that Christians are not. Disgusting and nasty people – as usual.

    • bighoss

      The smart money says that was a dumb thing to say.

  • Thunderbob

    The Catholic church got snookered, by the Master Obama! The Church fell into the liberal trap of the entitlement society. As they continued to assist the Democrats with the legislation, they lost what control they thought they had! Then Obama used the trump card to the Catholics surprise. If the Church were serious about straightening out the situation , they should start excommunicating People like: John Kerry, Pelosi, and Boxer. But that will never happen!

    • Chris P

      The Catholic church isn't anything worth respecting.

  • evermyrtle

    Anytime you fall for one of Obama's schemes, you will find yourself in a trap.

    • Chris P

      Wow what an inspired ridiculous comment.

  • Chris P

    Interesting that you call Obama a socialist yet these bishops are not even elected by the people. Fundamentally the church is a dictatorship.

  • Guest

    The Catholic church should CLEAN it's Own STABLES FIRST before interfiering with the Lives of it's Faithful http://news.yahoo.com/monsignors-mutiny-revealed-

  • Steve03

    Perhaps this explains why they go for the acolytes — no need to worry about contraception, and no need for abortions. And if the priests can manage their reproductive lives without effective birth control, so can the women.
    Besides, if you take away the fear of pregnancy, there will be no controlling those woman-things. No man will ever be safe on the streets. They might even assail him in his own episcopal palace, reeking of filthy lust, thin mints, samoas, and other detestable enormities.