Group aims to bring God into politics

Saying that the United States is a Christian nation suffering from a "tyrannical government," a new Texas-based organization will hold a rally Saturday at a Tyler church to "draw a line in the sand and aggressively and publicly defend those certain unalienable rights endowed by our creator."

God and Country was formed in response to the protest of a Nativity scene display on an Athens, Texas, courthouse lawn in December. Leaders say that because the nation was founded on Judeo-Christian values, it is completely within their constitutional right to mix religion and government. Also, they argue that Christian pulpits have been bullied in recent decades into political silence, for fear of losing their nonprofit status. They plan to change that.

Among those scheduled to speak at Saturday's rally, which will be at Lakeview Church of the Nazarene, is state Rep. Wayne Christian, R-Center.

Ray Myers, one of the founders of the organization and chairman of the Kaufman County Tea Party, said he got involved when he saw a local pastor, Dr. Nathan Lorick, speaking about the Nativity scene controversy on Fox News. He said he helped create the organization, not as a political move, but to "wake up the 50 percent of people in churches who are not registered to vote."

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Roy

This is the move that is needed fo save our AMERICA,all our problems started when God was taken out of our teachings And started letting congress Raise our kids. Our elected Congress only suports the people that lobby (or brive them ) with money whitch is all they care about but still can not balance a budget.(TRY THIS AT YOUR HOME AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.)
GOD bless AMERICA and Ron Paul Amen
- Myrtlelinder
  
  Congress raise our children?? We don't have a clue what it means to have Congress to raise our children!! If we don't put a stop to the aggressive take over of of Congress with everything, including our children, we will soon learn exactly what it mans because, they will no long be our children, we will have no say-so at all.
  - bighoss
    
    Congress is NOT raising your children or mine. This is not a "Christian nation." And the notion that the government has taken as its mission the objective of "destroying the Constitution and erod[ing] the very foundation of our economy and traditional American values" is patent nonsense.
    
    Your all-subsuming statement that "God was taken out of our teachings" needs something to substantiate it, Roy. Just when and how did THAT happen?
    
    Good grief! You theocrats get more irrational all the time!
    - Wayne
      
      bighoss, you are a fool. If you are too stupid to read your history, then why even make your silly and ignorant comments here? Do you recall why America was founded? Do you know why our ancestors left England? Have you watched as our Constitutional Freedoms have eroded to a Police State? Open Your Eyes and You Too Can See! You are just so closed minded to the truth and you seem to see so clearly as long as the vision you see is through your own lens looking at your own agenda. Get outside your own closed circuit world and take a look at the real truth if you are not too weak to do so.
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        Wayne, have you ever read the Constitution? It is a completely secular document. The founders were smart enough to avoid establishing a national religion as they had seen the carnage that entails. They established a government that was separate from religion and with that separation, Americans have more religious freedom than any other country in the world.
- Bruce
  
  You are cpmpleatly right. The downhill slide started when they put God out of our schools. " If you deny Me I will deny you."
Robert Lebischak

You already have one person that is running that believes in God in Politics. He has stated over and over that our rights are from God and this Nation was has a religious foundation, that is one of the reasons I am with that person. I'm sure you know that person is Newt. If you don't believe me then just read his book, A Nation Like No Other. This is the person for the White House.
- Scott Todd
  
  His affinity for Alvin Toffler would seem to contradict that.
  - bighoss
    
    His affinity for serial adultery and serial marriage would seem to contradict his alleged devotion to godly principles.
    - CJM
      
      Since when have you become so perfect, bighoss? Your sins have simply not made the headlines—and I'll bet my last penny you are no angel!
      - bighoss
        
        And just where did I make any claim to personal perfection?
        
        Believe me, CJM, if any Democrat running for the office of President had as blemished a record of marriage and morality as does Gingrich, he would be the target of unremitting castigation from the right-wing conservative evangelical sector. And you and your ilk KNOW he would, whether or not you acknowledge it!
- Washington22
  
  Hey, Newt is NOT the only one. Rick Santorum stands tall on God, family, religion. I'll go with Rick. Actually, tho, ALL of our candidates are religious. Romney is also a good Christian man who is more quiet, probably not wanting to fuel the fires of Mormonism. I don't care, just so they love the Lord.
  - bighoss
    
    Ah, yes, Mormons "love the Lord", and every Mormon man hopes one day to "progress" to godhood himself, with a domain over his own world and with legions of wives with which to constantly beget Mormon chillen to populate that world over which he rules. Read all about it in your Bible (N O T!)
    
    No one who believes the blasphemous and heretical tenets of Mormonism is a "good Christian," let alone ANY kind of Christian. Study up and get yourself educated!
- robert
  
  to robert libischak This is from Robert Williams a Viet Nam Vet remember the Word of god sayes there will be LiberaLS NO mORE THEREFOR tHIS mAKES ME BELIVE THAT THE TRUE cONSERVATIVES sUCH AS rON pAUL IS a mUCH bETTER cHOICE fOR THE cHRISTIAN nATION fOR THE iNTIRE bILL OF rIGHTS AND THE REST OF THE cONSTATUTION cOINSIDE UPON gODS WORD AND cONSERVATIVE WISHES rEMEMBER THE LORD SAYES TO sTAY WITH YOUR FIRST lOVE THAT WOLD bE iNTIRELY cONSERVATIVE.THAT IS eXACTLY WHAT RON PAUL INTENDS TO DO cONSERVING THE INTIRE CONSTITUTION.AS IT WAS INTENDED jUST LIKE gOD iNTENDED THE 10 COMANDMENTS TO bE CONSERVATIVE AND KEEP THEM ALL NOT TO BE LIBERAL AS SODEM AND GAMORA THERE MOTTO eVERYTHING GOSE THAT LIBERAL STANCE EVENTUALY GOT THEM DISTROYED.
  - bighoss
    
    Get that CAPS lock off, robert@ Your bass-ackwards uses of lower and upper case letters makes your post LOOK almost as silly as it READS.
William D'Andrea

The other morning, just before I got up, I was praying in the Spirit. I spoke the words "Leftists are the Devil's People". Then I had a sense that all Leftists were being lifted up before the Lord. That could be interpreted as meaning that the time for their judgement is at hand. However, that is only an interpretation. I may be incorrect.

I live on Long Island New York, so it will be impossible for me to attend your meeting, but my prayers will be with you.
- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
  
  You are incorrect.
  - Army Vet
    
    And you are an idiot
    - Bell
      
      Army vet, Jeff Dixon has been on many sites and just plain doesn't believe in God, period and he will argue with you tell the cows come home…believe me.
  - Myrtlelinder
    
    Who is incorrect? Surely you don't think you know more about what he experienced than he does. Well I guess you are that anti-GOD, anti-HOLY SPIRIT that you could believe that.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      All Leftists were not being lifted up before the Lord. It is an absurd statement and of course it is incorrect.
  - JPM
    
    What do you have other than your opinion to back up that statement?
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      The fact that there are no news reports of ALL leftists being lifted off the ground at one time. Little things like that.
      
      Chris, were you lifted off the ground this week?
  - Tout
    
    JEFF DIXON Talking to yourself ? You are indeed incorrect. Now I say a prayer for both of us, that He may guide us.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      Prayer is an excellent activity for you. It is like telling a child to sit on their hands and count to 1000. It does not accomplish anything, but does keep them occupied while the grown-ups can take care of the actual issues going on.
  - http://www.usaproductsnow.com decarlisle
    
    An Argument of the Book of Esther http://bible.org/article/argument-book-esther
    
    This makes a lot of Biblical sense if looked at the Book of Esther . The Bible says Haman could have been removed earlier on in scriptures but was allowed to be lifted up so the Lord could make an example of him to his people. What was meant for bad God turned for good.
    
    The end result for the Haman character 7:10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then was the king's wrath pacified.
    
    I have know idea if this was from the Holy Spirit but it rings true and neither do most of you know unless the Lord confirms it to you. I do know that to say what the Holy Spirit has said was not of Holy Spirit is a dangerous place to put yourself. You are basically saying that is a lie and there for saying its from the Devil. Its better to cover your mouth than to speak so dangerously.
    
    So unless you know this is not from God then you may want to keep you typing fingers at rest.
    
    This not the only time God has done such a thing so why should we not believe he is not about to make a spectacles of them?Time will tell Jeff not to worry.
    
    Shalom
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      I am not worried. Mythological deities have never concerned me. Are you worried about upsetting Allah or Zeus or Quetzalcoatl? Of course not, for you know they do not exist. The same holds true for the Christian god.
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        nota
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        That makes as much sense as your other posts.
- bighoss
  
  So the Holy Spirit is your "Google"? You just put in a couple of words into a divine Search Engine and get yourself informed about whatever is bugging you at any given time?
  
  You may indeed be incorrect. You may also be deranged.
  
  Now I have heard it all!
  - myrtlelinder
    
    I think that perhaps there is someone deranges here, but it is not William!! You may not realize but the "HOLY SPIRIT IS WELL AND ALIVE" It is ready every moment to bless GOD'S people."
Myrtlelinder

This is the best news that I have heard in a long, long time. There is only one thing that can save this nation. You are going to that one, THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, HIS SON JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. I will be praying for you and will notify others to pray for you. May GOD bless you and keep you on HIS path as you struggle in this wonderful effort.!!!
- Mike from Colorado
  
  We need ALL of the nation's churches to rally around such a call to GOD to save us and to help us rid ourselves from the evil that permeates from the WH. We are being attacked by the devil himself and we are allowing it to happen. GOD gave us the tools to fight this and it is up to us to do such. Our Lord and Savior is my only hope and change I am interested in.
  - Godisalive
    
    Absolutely! We are in the same boat as Germany just before Hitler took complete control. Everyone there was turning a blind eye also & saying it couldn't happen there just as they are here. Only ONE Minister spoke out & against the regime & no one would listen to him. He was finally executed & shut up. If people don't open their eyes & see what is in front of them & turn to God in Repentance, this great country is finished.
A. Reginald

We need to get the First Amendment straight! It prohibits the STATE (Federal) from establishing a religion. It does not prevent the involvement of Religion in politics. In fact interference with religious ppractice is strictly forbidden. We need to take this country back from the Secular/Progressives. Let them practice their religion of secular Humanism, but prevent them from forcing the state to embrace it as a national policy!
- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
  
  Yes, it does prohibit the government from establishing a religion. However, when the government promotes one religion over another, that is exactly what is occurring. It is fascinating that you can say this and not understand what allowing Christian prayers in government schools or any government activity accomplishes.
- CJM
  
  Unfortunately the government is trying to establish islamic religion onto the citizens of this great nation. Even the Supreme Court has remained silent on judges who are using the shar'ia to render judicial decisions. Both actions are in clear violation of our US Constitution….
  - bighoss
    
    No government judge in this nation is imposing sharia law. If you disagree, then put up the goods to prove it.
MontieR

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

The bill of rights does NOT prohibit religion it does prohibit the federal congress from establishing a single religion by law.
The states and we the people can worship in ANY way we deem appropriate without being harassed by the godless reprobates who think fornication is the height of freedom.
We as a nation have to band together and force this evil back into it's place preferably nonexistence.
Ithamar

The reason our country is in the religious, moral and political mess of today is the pulpits of America. Our ministers have become 'dumb dogs which cannot bark.' ministers are either corrupt are afraid, afraid they will loose members, money or their tax exempt status. They will march up and down the streets of their towns to celebrate the birth of a Marxist, fornicating, 'civil rights' leader, but they will not expose moral wickedness in any level of government. May God remove them from their pulpits. The Alliance Defense Fund is committed to defending churches against the IRS for removing the tax exempt status for preaching against wickedness in government.
- Godisalive
  
  As it says in Matthew 24 & in Revelations, they are teaching a false doctrine. I live in Wichita, Ks. & George Tiller (I refuse to give him the title of Doctor), was a Deacon at the church where he was shot. It is one of the Wealthier, more liberal churches here. Obviously, they don't read the Bible or they would know that according to the guidelines in the Bible for Deacons, Tiller was anything but qualified. I do not approve of what the person did by killing Tiller but very much understand his motives. Am I happy that Tiller is no longer killing innocent babies, YES? But I am not happy that Tiller is dead because he no longer has the opportunity for repentance. Now we have a woman Doc who is determined to take over where Tiller left off. So far, she has been stonewalled. I would ask all of you to pray that God prevents her from starting up.
- Myrtlelinder
  
  That is a great problem with us not being as Christian a nation as we ought. Many pastor want to be politically correct, too
  Forget the truth, preach sermons that please people and make them feel good about them selves. Forget the truth that will make them angry and feel bad about the things they are doing against GOD'S will.
Melody

Just remember the problems of the world and their governments are not because of God and religion being involved…. but because Christianity isn't at the heart of men and women in government. Todays problems can be directly traced back to the hearts of men in power…. selfish, ego driven, money hungry, power hungry men and women who don't worship or answer to God and feel they have no master and fear no judgement for their leadership.
- http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com SargeE5
  
  YES!!!
- Myrtlelinder
  
  It is not the Christianity, either. It is the lack of Christianity in those who profess to be Christians. Some of us will stand with GOD and HIS WORD, to the death but many will not do that. When the going gets tough the Christianity in us evaporates!
Myrtlelinder

I just read where Dick Cheney is fighting for homosexuality. I staggers my imagination the people who are "coming out of the closet" I would have never dreamed that Cheney was one of them. Perhaps, he is not like that but to support it, what does that tell us?

I Tim. 1:8-11
8: But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9: knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers for man slayers,
10. For whoremongers ,for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
11: According to the glorious gospel of the blessed GOD, which was committed to my trust.
- DavidMGus
  
  Is is because his daughter, Mary, is an open lesbian? It is interesting that as people discover that there are within their own families and acquaintances those whose lives have taken on a direction different than their own that they often become more accepting of others?…or at least it seems, the more enlightened among us tend to do so. I wonder what your reaction will be when you find this happening in your circle of friends/relatives…trust me…if you have a large enough circle of relatives and friends it will happen.
  - Myrtlelinder
    
    My answer, David is, "what make you think this evil may not be in my family?" Do you think that would make it alright in my mind? No, it would not! Thanks for the compliment that you do not think that is true. I am not "THAT" but I would be one of the world's biggest fools if I said I never committed a sin.
    
    Or the scriptures, is that is what is bothering you. The are not written be me, I just copied them out of my Bible!! I believe them 100%!
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
      
      So, you have given up all your wealth as Jesus told you to do so then???????
      - Myrtlelinder
        
        Well, no I didn't give up all my wealth, I have had any, like you!!
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        You seem to have a computer and access to the internet. That takes money.
        
        I suspect you own clothes, have a place to live, and probably a car.
        
        And Jesus said to give it ALL up. Not some of it, or enough that it hurts, he said to get rid of ALL of it.
        
        (Luke 14:33) "Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple."
        
        (Matthew 19:21-24) "Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
        
        Yet, you rarely hear of Christians who gave up everything. Why is this? Do they not believe what Jesus said? Do they think they know better?
        
        Why do Christians ignore the laws and rules of the Old Testament? The OT is filled with terrible, stupid rules regarding what to eat, what to wear, trimming beards, and interacting with menstruating women. Christians often say that Jesus established a New Covenant and the OT rules were done away with. But is that what Jesus said? Of course not. Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17).
        
        Why do Christians still ignore them? Why are YOU ignoring them???
        
        It is actually very simple to understand. If they followed the rules that Jesus gave, their lives would be impacted in very definite and specific negative ways. If they give up their money, they will not be able to survive. If they handled deadly snakes on a regular basis or drank poison, they would probably die. They also do not believe that some of the rules make any sense. Stop wearing clothes made from more than one fabric? Stop shaving for work? Um, no, thank you but no thanks. Christians know these rules are absurd. They know that following them will only cause them problems. They actually do know better than Jesus about how to live their life.
      - Myrtlelinder
        
        This post proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have not a clue what GOD'S WORD means. You are an expert at misrepresenting it. You read it and make it what you want it to be so that you can get on the internet and harass everyone who is stupid to answer your stupidity. Yes, I bit, and the taste is so bitter.
        
        Being perfect? JESUS said, "If you say you have no sin, you lie and the truth is not in you." We are all sinners. There are sinners who love being sinners and love tempting others to sin, but have not a clue to what the truth of GOD is all about. The rest of us sin when we are tempted severely, we regret the evil we have done against our LORD.and we repent. Those who love sinning do not repent,they just add more sin to the old sin. Yes, you can quote scriptures but JESUS said, "Satan comes quoting." Oh, yes, Satan knows all of the scriptures. so that does not mean a thing. You spend each day correcting everybody who will answer you. You can tell us what every scripture means, so you think You get it figured out the way you think it should be and make a great attempt to make mean what you want it to mean. That cannon be by you or by me.
        
        Judging!!! Read Matthew 7 and get a Christian to explain that to you Don't try to work it out on your own, you are sure to make a mess out of it if you do.
        
        I am assuming that since you are not a believer, you have not given all your wealth, your computer, and your clothes away. That is your choice just as it is a Christians choice to do what we want. The crunch comes when we are are paid for the things we do. Yes, we (that is, you and me) are rewarded by what we do, but we can only get into heaven by "THE GRACE OF GOD", by the way of our faith but our gifts, in heaven depend on our work for the LORD while on earth.
        
        HAVE A GREAT DAY!!
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        You can try and rationalize it all you want, but Jesus was very specific about what he said. He did not say give it away if you want to, he said you MUST give it away if you want to be his disciple. Now, what is humorous is that you claim to believe in him, yet you ignore what he says.
        
        I will have a great day. You try to have one while ignoring your lord.
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        Jeff ,,since when did Jesus tell me to give up my wealth,,, OH lORD, HERE GOES JEFF'S SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT AGAIN,, or since he is not born again, the lack of it !!! Jesus knew that man's problem was his wealth, so he told, HIM, ( not all ), to give up his wealth ! Jeff , all ,and if not all, most Christians have something in their life they need to give up. All the seven churches in Rev. chs 2-3 were told to overcome! Note , you will find as you read those chapters, there are only certain people Jesus charged to overcome, or go to Hell!! ( which really shoots down the,,, once saved always saved,, thought process
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        (Luke 14:33) "Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple."
        
        (Matthew 19:21-24) "Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        Dwayne, you have read the bible?
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        Jeff ,, I have tried to reply several times ,, however Admin won't let me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        Jeff Your statement above should read,,,, Dwayne, you have read the bible!
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        Not at all. Your responses indicate a complete lack of understanding of what is in the book.
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        I don't know how you can make a statement like that, knowing the only understanding of the Bible comes out of your book of fables called the Atheist bible.
- bighoss
  
  Dick Cheney, in case your perceptions have been so dim you did not notice, is a lying, scheming neoconservative weasel and a creature of the utmost expediency with virtually no moral or ethical anchor restraining his egregiously corrupt actions and statements.
  
  Does that help you understand why the varmint would defend perversion?
- bighoss
  
  Cheney has few scruples, as attested by his scurrilous performance while in high office. You should not be surprised to find Cheney supporting homosexuality or any other deviant behavior. Cheney supported torture and still does. That alone should tell you something about the wretched, conniving neoconservative disgrace that is Dick Cheney!
  - myrtlelinder
    
    I always heard "live and learn." Well, I am doing that.
- CJM
  
  Why should Dick Cheney's move towards supporting homosexuality surprise anyone? His daughter is a lesbian (well-known fact since she made it public) and he began showing public support for the lbgt movement several years ago.
Betty

My prayer that God's people will wake up and be in prayer for our Nation, A lot of the problems we have brought upon ourselves because we have taken God out of our lives and every day living. We need to be a nation under God again and claim our strength through God!!! Christian people need to get out and vote, we need a change in our government in all areas. Ask for God's guidance and wisdom to make the right decisions.
- Donna
  
  Betty,one candidate have a written plage to Jesus Christ.Please look up Dr.Ron Paul.Many Blessings .Lord please restore the U.S. to a god led nation.Amen
APFL

"The Naked Communist" by W. Cleon Skousen

Pages 259-262 lists 45 goals to soften America for the final takeover by the communist party as follows:

1-U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2-U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3-Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the U.S. would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4-Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation & regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5-Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites.
6-Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7-Grant recognition of Red China.
8-Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN.
9-Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests.
10-Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the UN.
11- Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. Demand it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.
12-Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13-Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14-Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15-Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.
16-Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. 17-Get control of schools, teachers' associations & soften the curriculum.
18-Gain control of student newspapers.
19-Use student riots to form public protests against programs & organizations.
20-Infilltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21-Gain control of key positions in radio, TB and motion pictures.
22-Discredit American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression.
23-Control art critics & directors of art museums.
24-Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them violations of free speech and press.
25-Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography & obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26-Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy & promiscuity as normal, natural & healthy.
27-Infiltrate the churches & replace their religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible.
28-Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29-Discredit the American Constitution.
30-Discredit the American founding fathers.
31-Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history.
32-Support any socialist movement to control any part of the culture — education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33-Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of communism.
34-Eliminate the House Committee on UN-American Activities.
35-Discredit and dismantle the FBI.
36-Infiltate and gain control of unions.
37-Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38-Transfer powers of arrest from police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders. institution.
39-Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws to control those who oppose Communist goals. 40-Discredit the family as an institution.
41-Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.
42-Create the impression that violence & insurrection are legitimate aspect of American tradition; that students & special-interest groups should rise up and use "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.
43-Overthrow all dictatorships before the populations are ready for self-government.
44-Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45-Repeal the Connally Reservation so the U.S. cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems giving the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
- Myrtlelinder
  
  APFL. Thank you for that information, we need to realize just how long this thing has been in the works.
  - Chris P
    
    You need to realize that it is complete BS. The American Communist Party is nothing. This is just playing to your irrational fears as is just about everything fed to the easily deluded religious.
    - Myrtlelinder
      
      I'm irrational, huh. Are you a communist?
    - Pastor Dwayne
      
      Lets see, our military is being cut back, our ICBMs are being downsized , The Bible talks about a one world wide gov't.. I'm surprised that in that group of 45 , nothing is mentioned about not letting the nation of Israel have any part of that list!!!
      - bighoss
        
        Perhaps Skousen, for all that he was wrong about so many things, was not caught up in some kind of Christian Zionist fantasy as are so many in our time.
- smitty
  
  Our current President has done more in three years to divide our country than all the trher Communists have in the last 50 years.
Chris P

This country is already far too religious. It is holding this country back.

Pure ignorance.

Come on tell me how heaven works. How does the information get transferred out of your brain?

You people claim to be so smart. Answer the question.
- JPM
  
  Obviously information has never been transfered into your brain. As for how how heaven works no one can answer that question unless they have been there and returned or have been given revelation knowledge from God's Holy Spirit. Ofcourse you don't believe that there is a God so any answer that does not conform to your opinion would not be accepted by you anyway. There is only one way to know God and that is through His Son after being called by the Holy Spirit. Apparently your call has either been unanswered or currently refused. One of the Holy Spirits functions is to be our teacher. One of our functions is to listen and accept His teachings. If we choose not to that is our choice. By the way what would you, Jeff or Jatheist do if one or any opf your children accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior. Would you dis-own them-hate them harrass them as you do to christians on this web site?
  - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
    
    I am not harassing anyone. I am making comments on a website. Are you really so weak of mind and spirit that you cannot handle a posting?
    - Deizer
      
      One day all people will stand before God as the judge. When you hear him say, "Depart from me. I never knew you." God put us here on the earth to see if we will follow him or not. On that day, you will have a different story.
      Can't you see that man couldn't make this earth or anything on it. A garage doesn't make a car.
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        No one has ever said that man made the world. However, worlds can be and were made from the raw material of the universe using gravity and accumulation.
      - Joe Anzilotti
        
        "gravity and accumulation"? What are you talking about today Jeff? Pipes and plumbing?
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        I would not expect you to understand, Joe.
- Duane
  
  The question should not be "How does the information get transferred out of your brain? ", but rather how did the information come together that formed your brain? Information has to come from somewhere…where does it come from? If you are so smart. Answer the question. ;-)
- Bobbie
  
  UNTIL ONE GETS TO HEAVEN WE CAN NOT SAY HOW IT WORKS BUT WE AS CHRISTIANS SAVED BY GEACE THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS KNOWS HEAVE IS REAL AND SO IS THE LAKE OF FIRE IN HELL. TRY IT YOU MIGHT LIKE IT. BUT IF I WAS IN YOUR SHOES I WOULD ACCEPT CHRIST JESUS FAST BECAUSE THE DAY OF CHRISR JESUS RETURN IS SOON, NO I DO NOT KNOW THE DAY OR THE TIME NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE SAVE GOD THE FATHER.
  BOBBIE
  - Bobbie
    
    WELL IS IT OR ISN'T IT????
- revLarry
  
  It gets transferred To Jesus and The father by us talking to Them they are closer than a brother they are life itself If God took his spirit /and your angels away you would instantly be in hell , what you need is to use the little faith you have and ask your saviour ,Jesus to save your soul,before it is too late.
catzpaw

I wish this group great success.
http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

You do not need to call yourself a cow
- Myrtlelinder
  
  I didn't know you were a cow!!!!!!!
  - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
    
    You do not get that whole humor concept, do you?
Steve03

Anybody else catch the fact that God and Country is for the Constitution, but not any of its amendments? No freedom of speech, no free exercise of religion, no right to bear arms, no right to assemble, no freedom from unreasonable search and seizure . . . . Is that what you folks really want?
- ORB
  
  The Amendments are a part of the Constitution!
  - Myrtlelinder
    
    Do those who want to make the amendments nil know that. They are twisting all out of shape.
WILLIAM GRANT

BE CAREFUL TO MUCH OF ANY ONE THING IS NO GOOD , THERE NEEDS TO BE A GOOD BALANCE. BUT IF THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK , THAN IT SHOULD BE DONE.
- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
  
  It is not YOUR country. It belongs to We, the People. That means it belongs to ALL Americans. You get your say in how it should be run, as do all citizens, but you do not get to trample the rights of all the other citizens.
Bobbie

WHEN YOUR EYE SIGHT IS BAD YOU HAVE TO USE CAPS TO READ OR TYPE ANYTHING.
Tripmom92

May God bless your efforts. The time as come for Christians of the nation to step up to the plate. It is our duty and responsbility to be involved with how our government is run.
- Steve03
  
  What's stopping you now? But read the actual article, not just the first paragraph above before you call down blessings on these guys.
J King

So all you pundet would like to see moore christian step up to the plate, I remember a statement that Christ Made to Pilot…My Kingdom is not of this World if it was my servent would fight and of course he said I could call 10 thousand legon of Angles who would fight for him. I like the idea of seperation of Church and state. Render to Stae that which belong to state, What if? which demonition would you perfer to be in charge?……Morman…..Jehova Wittness…..Southern Baptist or the Chatolic ?

May God Bless us all.
- bighoss
  
  "Demonition"??!! Is that a denomination for demons? Which "Angles" are those–right angles? acute angles? obtuse angles? Where can I find a "Chatolic"–in some chat room, perhaps?
  - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
    
    You are too funny sometimes.
Ray Myers

It is time for Grassroots America to wake up and get in the fight. While we sleep the left is doing Saten's work.
We must wake up the Christian Calvary and move this Nation into a period Speritial Revolution. This movement is not only
for Texas– it is for America. We have a plan and we will share with all like minded patriots who want their children and
grandchildren to grow up in a free America. Join the movement– go to the original story and contact Ray Myers in Forney, Texas.
We can no longer set on the couch– we must win in 2012. Obama must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
petroskhan1262

I think one thing needs to be clear here, for Christians more than others, apparently.

There is considerable debate over the "Christianity" of the Founding Fathers, and whether this nation was founded as a Christian Nation, or not. As a Christian, patriot, and student of history (amateur, to be sure), I am of the opinion that while some Christian principles guided the formation of our Constitution, this country was a secular country from the start, by design.

Had this country been founded as a Christian nation, the only Constitution needed would have been the Bible. Simple and to the point. But the Founders understood the perils of establishing a State religion, and chose to avoid that pitfall. Also, if one studies the Constitution, there are even hints that they sought to supplant God's law with the laws of men.

For good or ill, the Founding Fathers formed a secular nation, within which one is free to believe and practice as one chooses. To attempt to force anything like a mixture of religion and politics, well, hey…you can try it, but when people vote against it, don't get all upset.

And I do believe that many calling themselves Christians are forgetting something important. We are in this world, but not OF this world. We're just passing through. Our minds, and hearts, should be on something greater than the concerns of this world. The whole thing of politics is a dirty business, and to become embroiled in it, I have to wonder just where your desires and faith really lie.

Let's face it, none of it matters. The Bible is quite clear. Things are going to get a LOT worse. Trying to make them better is pretty much like saying you want to argue against God, and have things go your own way. Someone tried that once. Didn't do him a lot of good, either.

Just my two cents worth. Have a great day, and God Bless.