Minister demands return of Christian Britain
Eric Pickles has become the latest minister to demand a return of Christianity in Britain’s public life, as he outlined a new community cohesion strategy today.
The local government secretary’s comments are particularly revealing coming so soon after Sayeeda Warsi used a trip to the Vatican to launch a campaign against ‘militant secularism’.
“A few people, a handful of activists, have insisted that it isn’t enough simply to celebrate the beliefs of minority communities; they want to disown the traditions and heritage of the majority, including the Christian faith and the English language,” he told the Daily Mail.
“In recent years we’ve seen public bodies bending over backwards to translate documents up to and including their annual report into a variety of foreign languages.
“We’ve seen men and women disciplined for wearing modest symbols of Christian faith at work, and we’ve seen legal challenges to councils opening their proceedings with prayers, a tradition that goes back generations, brings comfort to many and hurts no one,” he added.
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The push is on world wide to destroy Christianity. In these last days it will continue to get worse and worse. Attacks will come from all sides. People you have to make your choice now, either you are on GOD's side or the world's side. There is no middle ground.
-JimMatt. 13: 37-43
-Myrtlelinder37: He that soweth the good seed is the, "SON OF MAN;"
38: the field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one.
39: The enemy that sowed the is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40: As there fore that tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41: The SON OF MAN shall gather out of HIS kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42: And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43: Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their FATHER; Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Years ago I started to show the Catholic Faith to the people, making sign of cross before eating my lunch at work, in restau-rants, alone or with others who didn't. In 2002 I started a (poor) yearly procession. In 2008, young mother took over. Got a fine procession from one church to another church, praying, singing, carrying big Maria statue. There Maria crowning. For years I go to pray at Maria-statue downtown, and hang sign "Whether glad, sad, or wary, pause a while, say a Hail Mary". 4 Different pedestrians came, said a prayer. Visiting Turnhout (Belgium) in 2004, I prayed, alone, at Sacred Heart statue on the big market place. It was in very bad shape. 2005, wrote letter to over 100 addresses and the Mayor there, that it had to be repaired. 2006, it was totally rebuild. I went back and prayed a rosary again. We, Christians, must act openly, protect our rights. Evangelize by our deeds !
-ToutTout, by reading what you wrote, I see a sincere person in you and know you care to what is going on, but, and I'm not trying to be mean…praying to a statue and doing beads is idol worshipping and God said for us not to do that. He loves you Tout for your efforts, as you have been told a lie. Look into the history of the Catholic church. And yes, you're right about us opening up and praying for our rights as they are being trampled on. Jesus Christ and God the father is our hope and they will listen if we pray to them for help.
-Bell"He loves you Tout for your efforts"
Would you please explain this? But nowhere in the Word you will find that. If God loves someone salvificly it is not due to their efforts but solely and exclusively thanks to the rigorousness of the Eternal Son of God which was imputed to that person. Furthermore, God does not love idolatry nor idolatrous displays and that is what Tout was and is engaging in believing he is engaging in piety.
" So then, it does not depend on human desire or exertion, but on God who shows mercy. "
-DespevilleRomans 9:16
"rigorousness" should be RIGHTEOUSNESS…
-DespevilleDespeville and Tout……go to James 2: 14 – 26. Faith without works is dead……We are saved through grace and declared righteous (justified) before God. Genuine faith will produce good deeds (works), but only faith in Christ saves. Tout's "deeds" are faith in action. Look what happened in Belgium!
-LindaFaith in action is not carrying around idols who do tale away from the Glory of Christ…
Roman Catholicism is not Christian and their view of salvation is grossly sub and extra biblical.
Please do read this and see how vast the differences are:
'Justification – The Contrast Between the Biblical Teaching and Roman Catholicism" http://www.christiantruth.com/articles/justificat…
-DespevilleBell,
-alan gThere is a difference between symbols and False Idols. Would you call the bible which you look at as you pray, an idol. Please don’t trivialise.
We do not bow down, kneel and seek intercession of the Bible. Who is trivializing, muddling the issue and blurring the distinctions? Is that really working for you and your conscience?
Here is a visual of some of Roman Catholic idolatry and what it does to people: http://youtu.be/7L8rcgP_jJY
-Despeville"He loves you Tout for your efforts (works)"… The Bible is very clear that a sincere believer is saved by grace through faith in Jesus (God's only begotten Son), not works (efforts). The works mentality is religion…not relationship with Jesus. The first commandment commands "Thou shall have no other gods before me"…God is a jealous God and reverential fear of who He is is paramount to faith, not Mary, dead saints, icons, etc., for that is idol worship. The Roman Catholic church is more of a Nicolaitan socio-political-religious cult than being authentic Christianity. Repent now, you sinners, and place Jesus first in your life.
-WinstonHere is a visual of some of Roman Catholic idolatry and what it does to people: http://youtu.be/7L8rcgP_jJY
-Despeville"We, Christians, must act openly, protect our rights. Evangelize by our deeds !"
You were not showing Christian Faith nor were you "evangelizing"… What you were doing is showing publicly your idolatry i.e. "carrying big Maria statue" and trying to woe others to join you in it. Repent from all if that and seek Christ only.
-DespevilleThere are a couple of words you need to be aware of what the meanings are. These two are frequently used to bash someone over the head with. 1) Idolatry: EIDOLOLATRIA; Heathen sacrifices were sacrificed to demons, I Cor. 10: 19; there was a dire reality in the cup and table of demons and in the involved communion with demons. In Rom. i : 22-25, idolatry, the sin of the mind against God (Eph. 2 : 3) and immorality. sins of the flesh, are associated, and are traced to lack of the acknowledgment of God and of gratitude to Him. An idolater is a slave to the depraved ideas his idols represent, Gal. 4 : 8, 9 ; and thereby, to divers lusts, Tit, 3: 3.
-Michael G.2)Rosary: Praying and using the Rosary is not idolatry. The beads just help one keep track of what is being prayed.
Tout is not an idolater. He is sincerely trying to get people to come to God. Perhaps people don't like his methods, but God works in diverse ways.
I think I'd let it go.
Do not play semantics with me… I know what idolatry is an in biblical sense it is PLACING TRUST, VENERATION, WORSHIP and seeking INTERCESSION of anyone or anything else but GOD and GOD ALONE.
God's ways are not as "diverse" as you want them to be… They are actually DEFINED, PROCLAIMED and DESCRIBED in His Word that is actually not that hard to understand if one can understand it.
"idolatry
mid-13c., from O.Fr. idolatrie, from V.L. idolatria, shortened from L.L. idololatria (Tertullian), from Eccles. Gk. eidololatria "worship of idols," from eidolon "image" (see idol) + latreia "worship, service" (see -latry)."
Source: http://bit.ly/wkoMF4
Your Roman Catholic Mary along with office assigne to her and worship, veneration or whatever you want to call it is a nefarious and wicked idolatry sprinkled with names and themes mimicking Christian Faith. Roman Catholic excuse and assertion of Latria, Dulia and HyperDulia is false and un biblical. The Word of God knows only one worship – LATRIA. The word of God knows only one to be worshiped – One Triune God and yes prayer is an ACT OF WORSHIP.
-DespevilleRoman Catholic abominate, repulsive, wicked and nefarious idolatry does not stop with Mariology it is only one of the so many visible factes of this false man made religion. Repent and Believe upon true Gospel and true Lord.
Amen! Preach it brother…
-WinstonDON'T lecture us about our BELIEFS – . Who appointed you to JUDGE and CONDEMN us ?. The LAST THING I need is an advice from an IGNORAMUS.
-ceejayProve my ignorance to have a reasoning for your name calling. Can you actually address Roman bogus distinction for latria, dulia and hyperdulia or your assertions and name calling is it?
-DespevilleYou are one hateful person. May the Lord forgive you.
-apollodrCatholics RECOGNIZE, ADORE only God. Many persons are better than I am. Some are in Heaven (God's mother Mary, Joseph, and many others). I speak (pray) to them for help. Other good persons are still alive (the Pope, many others). I ask, and accept their help, trying to keep walking straight. Spent a lot of time learning about Doctrine and Discipline, and of course the Bible. I somtimes pray openly in the street where people can see me, to propagate praying. Worldwide, 63.882 students for priests in 1978 grew to 117.978 in 2009 (almost 85 % increase, with a much smaller world-population increase). Of the few ongoing visible miracles, we saw the one in Mexico city, Also, what may be the burial linnen of Jesus, in Italy.
-Tout"Catholics RECOGNIZE, ADORE only God"
Which one? According to below it is the same one whom Muslims pray to:
"The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also INCLUDES those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom ARE the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and TOGETHER with us they adore the ONE, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Point 841
-DespevilleCatechism of Roman Catholic Church
Vatican Site: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM
When we worship GOD and GOD the SON, which is JESUS CHRIST, we do need to leave the beads and the trinkets and other non-god gods alone. The have nothing to do with being saved. It is good to honor those, over all the ages that have added to the betterment of mankind, nothing wrong with that but when we put them on a pedestal, that is putting level with GOD. God and JESUS created us and JESUS died for, not any of the false gods in existence.
-Myrtlelinder