Planned Parenthood Will Get Richer Thanks to Obamacare
When many people think about Planned Parenthood, they think about death: especially the 330,000 deaths the nation’s largest abortion provider wrought via their scalpels, syringes, and vacuum devices last year.
Others think of the abortion mammoth’s tacit support of gender-based abortions or their current efforts to export their death machine to Africa.
But too few people think about the financial windfall Planned Parenthood is certain to receive once ObamaCare goes into full effect, as too few people are right now thinking about the money that President Obama’s birth control/abortion pill mandate will place in Planned Parenthood coffers.
To understand this, consider the fact that one-third of Planned Parenthood’s income comes from STD testing and another third from contraceptives. If employers and the insurance companies they use are forced to provide contraceptives and abortion pills to employees, Planned Parenthood’s current net worth of $1,000,000,000 is certain to rise.
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Planned Parenthood is the long form name for murderers.
-KalevObama is an athiest ,otherwise he would know it is murder , If he knew how to read. It is also illegal touse my and any ones taxes to ,hire anmurder contractor.
-Rev Larry RIts major goal is to protect and support at all costs the so called right of abortion. Obozo supports abortion, so of course any thing designed by him will do so.
-JimWhat Planned Parenthood, President Obama, and I support, is keeping Government out of the abortion decision. There are better ways to prevent abortion.
-davesAre there better ways to prevent rape, murder, theft, and assault also, daves? Give us the "benefit" of your "wisdom" and enlighten us, daves. Abortion is murder and GOD will hold all who support abortion accountable.
-BobseeksYes, like bomb every abortion center in America.
-MytelelinderAnother Christian explaining their views. If you cannot win at the ballot box, then resort to violence.
-Jeff DixonRemember it was o-bow-mao who said "If my daughter got pregnant I wouldn't want her to be punished by having the baby". True Christian beliefs…for sure. Here in Saint Louis we have friends who will not write an email without quoting scripture in their signature, will NEVER eat a bite of food without having a group prayer and flaunt their religious beliefs like you'd never seen…and yet they are ABSOLUTE o-bow-mao supporters. I'll let you guess the color of their skin.
-MattThe ability of politicians like Obama to thread the needle between their own support of abortion rights and their constituents' opposition can be deteminative in Pennsylvania. And Obama, who supports abortion rights, handled the questioner deftly.
"This is a very difficult issue, and I understand sort of the passions on both sides of the issue," he said. "I have two precious daughters — they are miracles."
But politicians must trust women to make the right decisions for themselves, he said.
"This is an example where good people can disagree," the Illinois senator said. "The question then is, are there areas that we can agree to that everybody can get behind? We can all agree that we want to reduce teen pregnancies. We can all agree that we want to make sure that adoption is a viable option."
The exchange appeared to be prompted by Obama's earlier comments that he does not favor abstinence-only education, but rather comprehensive sexual education that includes information on abstinence and birth control.
"Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old," he said. "I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."
-davesTrust women to make the right decision? Do you mean like when they made the decision that resulted in an unwanted pregnancy? Your posting of maobama's comments only illustrates just how evil this son of satan is,
-BobseeksThere was a man also making that same decision. Why do you only blame the women? It is actually ovbious why you do, but what is your rationalization?
-Jeff DixonJudging from the lack of intelligence evidenced in all your posts, you may not realize that men do not get pregnant. That is a scientific fact (just look it up), That means it is the woman who has to deal with the consequences, therefore it is incumbent on her to take the measures to avoid pregnancy. But, if I were to use your "reasoning" and hold the man equally accountable, shouldn't the man then have a voice in whether or not the baby should be murdered? That is not what the women want, which means that the woman should be the one held accountable. This all academic anyway because abortion is murder and murder is against the law in any civilized culture. Once against you reveal your lying and deceitful nature by even bringing up an argument knowing that you do not want to accept its logical outcome.
-BobseeksLooks like you too Brutus ooops I meant you too Bob have recognized the absolute imbecility of Dixon's spam fed from his unceasing mother of help and intercession and oracle of Dixon's "knowledge" – Google and its pointers to vast layers of human idiocy so readily dug in by Dixon. Yet he goes on believing that he is widely read and appreciated here and elsewhere while telling Christians how delusional they are… Life is better than any scripted cabaret.
-DespevilleWidely read? Given how people respond to me, that is true.
Appreciated? Not by many on this site, but some have said they enjoy debating with me. Some have said they agree with me. You have even agreed with me before, Despesville. And a few have said they appreciate me being here.
Christians are delusional? Of course you are. You believe in myths. That is textbook delusion.
-Jeff Dixonbobbie, you have never made a valid argument with a logical outcome. Yes, it is the woman who gets pregnant. However, if the man had not engaged in sex with her, she would not become pregnant. They are both responsible. And I agree that the man should also have a voice in the decision. But the man cannot force the woman to do something and therefore, it will end up being her decision.
-Jeff DixonDixon, you would not know what a valid logical argument is even if it would camp out on your front lawn for 2 years… You have no tools for that nor your worldview allows for that. Cut your pretense. Just to show some of your raving irrationality:
'if the man had not engaged in sex with her, she would not become pregnant."
You must have heard about "in vitro"?
-DespevilleWe were not discussing artificial means of insemination, we were discussing women getting pregnant from sexual activity with a man. So, what other pointless comments are you going to engage in today?
-Jeff DixonThere were not pointless Dixon. Just showing your your gruesome superficiality, illogicality and irrationality.You are a product of postmodern shallowness.
-DespevilleOf course it was pointless. It was not the topic, nor did it add anything of value to the debate. it was merely a red herring, and a very poor one at that.
-Jeff DixonBeat it troll.
-DespevilleOh, very good, desperateville. When you cannot make a compelling argument, try for the insult.
-Jeff DixonDespeville: jeffie cannot accept the truth; to do so would end life as he knows it. He must hold on to his lies or admit that he is a fool and a liar. He is obviously not man enough to do that.
-BobseeksHe is a slave who presumes that he is free. Little does he know that true freedom is in true slavery but to a different and good Master…
-Despevillehttp://youtu.be/nx3ColYGNMM
Which means that your bringing of the man into the argument was irrelevant which, again, proves that you had no purpose in making the argument other than confusing the issue. This also proves that I am right because you never intended to accept the logical conclusion of your argument to begin with. Your only use on this website is to prove that atheists are illogical and liars.
-BobseeksThe above was in reply to jeffie.
-BobseeksBob do not even try to argue logic with that guy. He is an epitome of raging delirium.
-Despevillelittle bobbie and desperateville discussing using logic. Oh, the irony of the situation is simply too funny.
-Jeff DixonYes Bob abortion IS murder, that baby is a human at conception and the Word backs that up, and no one elses opinions mean anything to me on this topic.
-KalevActually, the bible says the opposite.
"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."
This passage allows only for the punishment of a man who injures a woman causing her to miscarry. However, a careful scrutiny of these verses uncovers a startling revelation. A miscarriage is punishable only by a fine, yet if there is any further harm, such as the death of the woman, the penalty is life for life! The implication of this passage is clear—the life of the unborn child is not accorded anywhere near the same status as the life of the woman. To put it another way, the man who causes a woman to miscarry is guilty not of murder, but only a misdemeanor.
-Jeff DixonEven more shocking, we find that God actually mandates abortion when the fetus is a product of adultery (Numbers 5). A jealous and suspicious husband should bring his wife to the local priest, who forces the woman to drink a poisonous "water of bitterness" to bring on God's "curse". If she experiences "bitter pain," if her "belly swells" and her "thigh rots," she fails the test and becomes an outcast. Virtually all Biblical scholars agree that this voodoo ritual and its cloaked euphemisms refer to an induced (not to mention unsafe) abortion. The word "thigh" in the Old Testament usually means genitals, but in this case, it refers to the uterus and its contents. One alternate Bible translation reads, "She will have barrenness and a miscarrying womb." (New International Version)
So much for the idea that god cares about all children in the womb.
-Jeff DixonLet's turn to the anti-choice claim that life begins at conception, and that fetuses and embryos are persons—full and separate human beings with rights. For religious anti-choicers, this usually means a belief that fertilized eggs are infused with souls. But the Bible clearly states that life and personhood begins with "breath". With the creation of "man" in Genesis 2:7, God:
"…breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being."
The Hebrew word for human being or living soul is nephesh, which is also the word for "breathing." Nephesh occurs over 700 times in the Bible as the identifying factor in human life. Obviously, fetuses do not breath and therefore cannot be considered as human beings according to the Bible. Here is another verse that reinforces this conclusion. God says:
"Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live." (Ezekiel 37:5)
No-one can know when life really begins, including Bible-believing anti-choicers, as this verse makes clear:
"As you do not know how the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything.” (Ecclesiastes 11:5)
-Jeff DixonBob, You are correct in your assessment of equal say regarding the pregnancy. But you fail to account for the timing of that decision. It is to be done prior to having sex. Maybe you didn't look up your own scientific fact but generally women do not become pregnant without men. The responsibility for pregnancy has been abandoned in this culture by both women and men. This is the way of Godlessness.
This culture has removed any consequences from illicit sex and the result is 53 million deaths and rising in this country. How can we hope to prosper as a society if our evaluation of life is so poor?
-DennisDoes he not care that his grandchildren is being murdered?? I guess he doesn't, maybe he thinks he will have to support them and of curse he doesn't want to do that.
-myrtlelinderPlanned Parenthood should be renamed "Murder, Inc." and everyone involved with that malignant organization should be tried for murder.
-BobseeksYou got that right!!!!
-Myrtlelinderis there any wonder that obozos zip code is 60606 or that the pick three numbers were 666 the day he got elected? I think not.
-Tired of his spew of liesWhile that is a zip code for IL, it is not the zip code for the house that Obama lived in. Here is his actual address.
5046 S. Greenwood Ave, Chicago, IL 60615
Are far as one pick three lottery having the numbers 666, assuming that is true (afterall, your first comment is not true), there are many pick three lotteries around the country. I am sure that there have been other days where a pick three lottery also ended up with a winning number of 666. It is called statistical chance.
-Jeff DixonI John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Galatians 5: 19-21
-Myrtlelinder19: Now the words of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleaness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath,strife, seditions, hereseies, envying, murders drunkeness, revellings and such like: of the which I tell you before, a I have also told you in time past, that they which do such thins shall not inherit the kingdom of GOD
That's a good message for all of the People who hate President Obama.
-davesTelling the truth is not hate daves, you seem to have a difficult time understanding that. Maobama is evil incarnate, that is truth.
-BobseeksAre you sure?
-davesI am absolutely positive.
-BobseeksGiven how wrong you are on so many issues, we can be positive that you are wrong on this one as well. Obama is a terrible president. However, he is not satan, the son of satan or a minion of satan. He is a misguided politician who is in over his head on issues he knows little about. Actually, bobbie, in that respect, he is much like you.
-Jeff Dixon….or that ACTA legislation he’s trying to ram through without congress voting will shut this website down?
-Tired of his spew of liesOr that FEMA started hiring for their REX 84 Internment Canmps earlier this year?
-Tired of his spew of liesKilling babies is making America richer?? Horrible evil Satanic riches!!!!!
-MyrtlelinderKilling babies is big business, it has been for years. The one thing you can say about those who feel that a woman has or should have a choice to commit murder, is this: In the end, God will not honor what you have done. He will not honor the slaughter of innocents. Those of us left here to deal with this evil have to remember that each and every one of those aborted babies are with Jesus now. We have read the Bible, we Christians already know how the story ends. Jesus will be victorious and Satan and his minions will spend eternity in the lake of fire.
-The WatchmanCorrect – abortion is not morally neutral, it is against GOD's commandment not to commit murder. He will call for an accounting from those who believe that we have the right to decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong on this matter and they will be found wanting.
-BobseeksIt's against God's commandment to work on the sabbath also. Are you angry at the stores that are open and the people who are working? Have you ever worked on the sabbath?
-davesAnd every murdered baby has a Father, how he feels about his child does matter.
-MyrtlelinderHere we go again. First a Bible verse, for the "thumppers" out there:
Matthew 7:1 – Judge not lest ye be judged yourself
Now on to the rest.
You DO realize that PP does more than abortions, right?
You DO realize that if you overturn Roe vs. Wade and closed PP that abortions would STILL happen, right?
You DO realize that, under the current law, women give birth because they CHOOSE to, right? Under "pro-life" they will have to (and, again, it will NOT stop abortions from happening). Funny how the media NEVER addresses THAT aspect of it. Why is that? Biased?
No, I am not some gung-ho abortion fanatic. I just simply realize that women ARE going to either give up babies for adoption, have abortions or give birth NO MATTER WHAT we do.
God does not condone murder. However He does recognize "freewill" and, as stated above in the Bible verse, WE ARE NOT to be "judge and jury" – that is HIS job and HIS job ALONE.
-DavidWomen do NOT have a God given right to kill the children in their womb just like they do not have a God given right to kill them after they leave the womb. There is only one case in which I believe God will forgive an abortion, when the life of the woman is at risk of death, especially when she has other children to raise and nurture. Am I a fundementalist Bible believing individual – YES I am and that is the only pride I carry within myself. Aleikhem shalom.
-KalevDavid: Once again we see the misuse of Scripture by someone is obviously not a believer; a tactic that reveals the author to be a liar. By the way, do you believe we should not judge murderers, rapists, thieves, and other criminals? Of course you do, therefore you are being deceitful. Abortion is murder and the Bible speaks out against murder. Those who mislead ignorant women into thinking that they are not committing murder are guilty of blinding them to the fact that they will be judged for the murder oif their child. Those who inform them of their sin are trying to prevent their condemnation; it is they who care about them, not you.
-BobseeksI cannot believe you consider yourself a Christian and accuse others of being non believers when you have no idea what is in their heart. Blasphemy that is.
-davesQuit making up theology as you go daves; you are no good at it. See what the Bible says about fruits being the evidence of faith. You (and those like you) have no fruits other than evil, false teaching, lies and corruption, therefore you have no faith.
-BobseeksThumper, I mean David read the entire chapter of Matt: 7. If you read the entire chapter, it tells you what judging means, the first verse, taken by itself means nothing. Millions of people do that, read the one verse, which doed not tell the truth about judging without the rest of the chapter.
-MyrtlelinderThat man was always part of the argument, for he is the one that got the woman pregnant. Bobbie, I realize that you cannot grasp much, but this is an easy one.
-Jeff DixonYou realize nothing Dixon. Least that you are a blind fool perishing 365/24/7/24/60/60 into eternal torment.
-DespevilleThat is because there is no eternal torment occuring, Humpty.
Threatening an Atheist with hell is like threatening a Christian that Allah will be upset with them. It is meaningless because the threat is empty.
-Jeff DixonEmpty is your postmodern, relativistic, under-educated and enslaved mind troll and I am not the one who threatens. You are condemned already and hanging over the abyss right now. The only thing that is separating you from it is one heart beat. Just because you are blind to the truth it does not mean it is not there but of course your deranged mind and rotten soul cannot possibly even begin to process that on any level.
-DespevilleUntil you show that your god exists, that hell exists and that my actions actually condemn me to this hell, your comments are less than nothing.
-Jeff DixonExactly – god gave us the freedom to decide for ourselves and we do not need to use man's laws to override that freedom.
-davesGOD gave us no such thing – we are to obey GOD's law or suffer the consequences. Once again you prove that you are no Christian.
-BobseeksSo you don't think God has the power to stop abortions from happening?
-davesWhile God has the power to stop all sin – simply by ending the existence of all sinners – God is allowing man to continue in his lawlessness. The purpose, as stated in His Word is so that all will be shut up in sin (nothing to say, no excuse) that His mercy will be made known to all as HIS mercy. While we continue to sin, and reap the consequences of sin, God proffers the gift of His Son. What PATIENCE He has with us.
We've tried it Satan's way. We've tried it our way. It's time we should try it God's way.
-PaulWhat exactly is gods way? Which verse in the bible describes the one specific way god deals with problems?
Perhaps it is Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT. "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.”
Or maybe it is Matthew 5:38-39. “You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also”.
Of course, Jesus also said the following, Luke 22:36-38 “And He said to them, ‘But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one. For I tell you that this which is written must be fulfilled in Me, ‘And he was numbered with transgressors;’ for that which refers to Me has its fulfillment.’ They said, ‘Lord, look, here are two swords.’ And He said to them, ‘It is enough.’”
So, I am curious, since the bible shows that god the father and Jesus are not in lockstep with each other, and both are aspects of god, just what is "gods" way.
-Jeff DixonHow does planned parenthood prevent rape, murder, theft, and assault. What does on have to do with the other???? It promotes murder and lots of it , every time a baby is killed, a murder has been committed. This is a sin against GOD because he created every little baby, even that precious little unwanted one.
-MyrtlelinderYou miss the point completely.
-BobseeksBopeep, I mean, Boseeks, I do see you have to hate the tiny human growing within you so much that you murder it. I can see that. What I cannot see is how planned parenthood caused it, it is sponsoring it, not causing it. Now you may be pregnant because you were raped, but how does what you said cause the rape, explain that. All of these things that you listed, including abortion is caused by a warped mind. You apparently are a lot smarter in the evils of the world than I am and smarter than most people so explain it to us. I am the only that thinks you are smart enough to explain all of this, malarky, so they ignore you. Humor me, explain it.
Bu the way, I do miss the point completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-MyrtlelinderOK mirt: Daves says there are better ways to address the abortion issue than law, my reply indicates that if there are better ways to address abortion than law, then maybe we should look at better ways to address other issues for which we have laws like rape, murder etc. than by the law. It is called sarcasm. Get it now? If you have any discernment, you should understand tthat daves constantly misuses Scripture to "back up" his satanic lieberalism, get it now?
-Bobseeksbobbie, few people get your views, for they are idiotic and absurd.
-Jeff DixonIF TWO PEOPLE GET TO GETHER AND HAVE SEX AND GET PREGNANT THEN PARTAKE IN AN ABORTION I SEE THAT AS KILLERS ANY DOCTOR THAT DOES AN ABORTION IS A KILLER OF A HUMAN
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-davesAll this gets done because the church has sold out to the government and has been effectively silenced by there 501c3 which they DON'T KNEED! as a church because the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution protects them and there for there is no need to be a "501C3", Bottom line the "church" has put the government as a higher authority than God!
-crashaxeFor more understanding on this subject, google Search (bottom line on 501c3)
All be blessed,
THE 501(c)(3) INCORPORATED CHURCH©
“DOWN AND DIRTY”
Barbara Ketay
O.K. Pastors, Evangelists, Missionaries, Deacons, Trustees, Elders…listen up! Let’s stop all the hocus-pocus, the illusions, the scams, the fairy-tales and the out right lies regarding what the 501(c)(3) incorporated church is and is not. For a change, let’s deal with facts. For those of you who don’t understand “facts”, in the legal arena facts are used and are supported by documented evidence which would be admissible in a legitimate court of law. Facts are not hyperbole!
THE DOWN side of the 501(c)(3) corporation:
*The creator of a corporation is the State;
*The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over the corporation;
*The corporation is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers;
*The corporation has no constitutionally protected rights, except 14th Amendment;
*The corporation is an artificial person;
*The corporation submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State;
*The corporation is created for the benefit of the public;
*The corporation is a State franchise;
*The corporation is a privilege granted by the State.
The above statements are facts. They were not invented by this author in order to make a point. They were established by case law, precedents, if you will. They are still good law, never having been overturned, therefore, they are still in full force and effect. In the landmark case Hale vs. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 at 74 (1906), the U.S. Supreme Court stated the following regarding corporations:
-crashaxeUpon the other hand, the corporation is a creature of the State. It is presumed to be incorporated for the benefit of the public. It receives certain special privileges and franchises, and holds them subject to the laws of the State and the limitations of its charter. Its powers are limited by law. It can make no contract not authorized by its charter. Its rights to act as a corporation are only preserved to it so long as it obeys the laws of its creation.”
Continuing with Hale vs. Henkel, 201 U.S. 74-75 (1906) the Court also stated regarding corporations:
“There is a clear distinction in this particular between and individual and a
corporation and that the latter has no right to refuse to submit its books and
papers for examination at the suit of the State. While an individual may lawfully
refuse to answer incriminating questions unless protected by an immunity statute,
(1)
it does not follow that a corporation vested with certain privileges and franchises
may refuse to show its hand when charged with an abuse of such privileges.”
Do you get it? Can you see the trap? A 501(c)(3) corporation, being an artificial person, is not considered a person under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution (religious liberty clause) or under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution (protection against self-incrimination clause). Therefore, an incorporated church has NO First or Fifth Amendment rights.
In the case Johnson vs. Goodyear, 127 Cal.4 (1899):
“A corporation, being an artificial person, only has rights within the
meaning of the due process and equal protection clauses of the Fourteenth
Amendment to the United States Constitution and similar provisions of
State constitutions and within the meaning of state statutes.”
THE DIRTY side of a 501(c)(3) corporation:
-crashaxe*The 501(c)(3)corporation may exist in perpetuity;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation is required by law to serve the State;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation must support the government agenda, i.e. all public policy;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation is not really tax exempt, since it pays Social Security taxes;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation allegedly has limited liability protection;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation is just considered another business;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation can hold real estate;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation can sue and be sued;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation members do not own any of the assets;
*The 501(c)(3)corporation is governed by a Board of Directors;
*To dissolve the 501(c)(3)corporation, you must first give all your assets (if you have any) to another 501(c)(3)corporation. If you do not do this the State will take your assets and distribute them for you to other tax-exempt 501(c)(3)corporations.
You know the statement, “…there is nothing new under the sun.” Well this is certainly true about corporations. The corporation as we know it today was perfected by the Romans around 250 B.C. It had all the legal attributes that we know today. These are called legal maximums, which all originated with Rome, and survive to this day as governing legal dictum. Remember the Romans were pagans and they controlled every facet of their society, including its legal system.
As I am sure you will remember, in the Roman Empire, there were no individual or personal liberties. The only benefits and privileges you received were State-sanctioned. The great and mighty supreme authority over everything was the State. In all matters, nothing in Rome, and/or their provinces, could be done without the State’s license and permission. Incorporation became mandatory by 6 A.D. for all “spontaneous collectivities of persons.”
Rome literally had hundreds of deities which they permitted to be worshipped. The key word here is “permitted”. The Lord’s church was not only persecuted because of who they worshipped, they were persecuted because of their refusal to seek permission from the State by becoming incorporated. The Lord’s church was considered illicit because of this refusal. Sounds like what we have today, does it not?
THE DOWN AND DIRTY SIDE OF THE 501(c)(3) INCORPORATED CHURCH
This section is specifically for the Pastors who masquerade their 501(c)(3) corporations as a church; who continually allow the church to be demeaned as an underling, a subordinate, and a dependent of the State. It’s for Pastors who have crawled to Caesar with bones shacking and quivering to seek the almighty mythical tax-exemption. It’s for
Pastors who choose Caesar’s favor over obedience to God. And, sadly it’s for Pastors who should be able to grasp this simple Biblical doctrine, or, are just plain stupid, or, worse yet, they think they are smarter than the Lord… this section is for you!
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church has no 1st Amendment or 5th Amendment rights as provided by the United States Constitution because your corporation is an artificial person; the corporation only has due process and equal protection under
-crashaxethe 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution and similar provisions of
State constitutions and within the meaning of state statutes;
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church must adhere to all public policy which restricts the Pastor to preaching politically correct sermons which do not assault anyone’s dignity or self-esteem. This means no speaking out about the character of political candidates, abortion, sodomy, homosexuals, the government, the war, sin, and no propaganda which equals the spreading of doctrine, which would definitely include the gospel. Oh! I know you’re saying “nobody tells me what to preach”. Really! Then obviously you are not aware that in 1954 Lyndon Baines Johnson, a real unethical low-life, was sick and tired of pastors and congregations wielding influence over voters. He declared it was time that the most powerful public forum, the church, be silenced. He proposed that in exchange for “tax-exempt status” the church would have to agree to keep silent on matters which the government considered verboten. If they did not co-operate there would be no tax amnesty for the transgressors. The rest is history.
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church is just another business under Federal and State Statutes and regulations and to the IRS. You have placed the Lord’s church is the same category with immoral, wicked and despicable groups and organizations, i.e., Planned Parenthood, atheists, witches, Satanists, pornographers, pedophiles, and hundreds of other organizations all seeking legitimacy from a 501(c)(3) corporation as a way to raise tax-deductible money for their perverted activities;
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church properties are held in trust for the public and such public purposes;
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church powers and activities are defined and limited by Federal Statutes and by the regulations of the Internal Revenue Service
Commissioner, and are in total submission to the State and Federal authorities;
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church is considered to be perpetual, and cannot be dissolved or unincorporated unless and until all assets are merged into another
“tax-exempt 501(c)(3) corporation or trust”;
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church has agreed to allow the Internal Revenue Service to
be the final arbitrator and authority of what is and is not a church; to certify religion and to state who we can worship, what we can or cannot believe, and who we can give our tithes to. It's a sad commentary about the church of our day when the church feels compelled to go to sinners to seek legitimacy;
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church can now sue and be sued. Incorporation does little or nothing in the way of actually protecting the church. The legal truth is that a church cannot be sued and brought into court until it incorporates, because then it becomes a legal entity. Prior to incorporation, a church “is not an entity recognized in law.” If the court cannot legally recognize it, it cannot be sued. A
church is not subject to the jurisdiction of any court. However, when a church
incorporates it most certainly may be sued. Incorporation becomes the nexus of government jurisdiction over the incorporated church. Until the church incorporated it was completely outside the purview and jurisdiction of the civil government. This is a critical legal truth that seldom, if ever, will be discussed with you by your attorney.
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church establishes with the government an “unholy alliance”. The church and the corporation are each distinct, separate and mutually
exclusive entities. “…Therefore when the church incorporates the church does not merge with the corporation.” Sierraville Community Church vs. McKenzie, 240 P.2nd 663 (1952). A symbiotic relationship is established wherein an incorporated church promotes the work of the church through the corporation, and the public interest, the work of the corporation and the State, are promoted through the incorporated church. This “unholy alliance” has resulted in the incorporated church being assimilated into promoting the philosophies and vain deceits after the traditions of man and the world, as enforced by civil government.
*The 501(c)(3) incorporated church has said that God is not sovereign over His Church. He has no place of honor. The church is the institution ordained and established by Jesus Christ Himself, and, Christ has never delegated His authority to the any civil jurisdiction to rule in the affairs of His church. The 501(c)(3) incorporated church publicly declares that Jesus Christ is no longer competent to govern, protect and provide for His own church;
The Lord’s church has allowed itself to be emasculated by the United States government’s so called favors and privileges. It is too apathetic, intimidated and fearful to understand it was already guaranteed, by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, all rights, freedoms, liberties and protections. The courts have always recognized, “…a church is not an entity recognized in law”, therefore they have no jurisdiction over the church. How is it then that the Lord’s church can’t get this…they
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-crashaxeautomatically commit spiritual suicide by voluntarily giving jurisdiction to the State by incorporating.
How is it that the Lord’s church cannot grasp that the First Amendment was an act of God’s wisdom and providence in order to safeguard His church and maintain its independence from the State? The First Amendment is the highest form of real protection ever known in the history of the church:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Where are the fearless Pastors who delivered potent “fire and brimstone” sermons against sin in all its forms? Where are the Pastors who spoke valiantly, without fear of retribution, against a corrupt government, sin, society’s condition, voter issues, and any and all forms of injustice? Where are the Pastors who care more about honoring God than being popular? Most Pastors today would rather sell their souls, enjoy sin for a season, and not worry about the coming Judgment Day, than ruffle any government feathers and thereby risk losing their “precious and sacred” 501(c)(3) incorporated status. “Let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.” I Corinthians 10:12: and, “the fear of man
-crashaxebringeth a snare.” Proverbs 29:25.
Have any of you Pastors bothered to think about what impact your “running scared and spirit of fear attitude” has on the world? What kind of testimony is it to the unbeliever when the church incorporates out of a spirit of fear? Sadly, the issue of our testimony is seldom ever considered when making this monumental decision. But you can be sure of one thing, it is something that many others will think about when presented with the gospel. How about this scenario, “O.K. the Pastor just said that Jesus not only saves my soul, but He will be my Savior in every area of my life. He’s my Provider, my Protector, He’s my Everything. Well, if He’s such a great Protector, why then did this church have to go to the State for protection through incorporation? Obviously the church must not think very much of Jesus’ ability to protect them. No, I don’t think I’m interested in the salvation this Jesus offers.”
American’s have always looked to the Bible and to the Pastors for moral direction. The world has long recognized the church in America as the most common and most influential institution in American history. It is for sure that our Founding Fathers, who fought to establish this Country, held the uncompromising knowledge that the church was not subservient or subordinate to any king, parliament, president or any other civil government body.
“A more certain way to attack religion is by favor, by the comforts of life, by the hope of wealth; not by what reminds one of it, but by what makes one forget it: not by what makes one indignant, but by what makes men lukewarm, when other passions act on our souls, and those which religion inspires are silent. In the matter of changing religion, State favors are stronger than penalties.”
The Spirit of the Laws, Baron de Montesquieu (1748)
Well, were truer words ever spoken…the acceptance of State favors have had disastrous consequences on the churches in America. The church is effectively silenced, she is gagged, and has become ineffective. Should you doubt, just take a look at the spiritual and moral bankruptcy of our beloved America. I believe the Pastors will be held responsible and accountable to God for allowing His church to become nothing more than “an arm of Rome”, and for fearing to take an undaunted stand for the fullness of truth.
God will not let spiritual treason go unpunished. It is not the way that “seems right” but the way that “is right” and in full harmony with God’s word. Compliance is compromise.
The 501(c)(3) incorporated church has allowed an “unholy alliance” to be established between the Lord’s church and the State. “Ye cannot drink the Lord’s cup and the cup of devils,” I Corinthians 10:21. Satan, who “blinds the mind” and “transforms himself into an angel of light…,” has sucked the preachers into his trap of incorporation.
In conclusion, God has honored His church above all others with great power and authority. Now we must come out and be ye separate, and above all honor Him with all our love, our praise and our absolute obedience, for “…to obey is better than sacrifice.” I Samuel 15:22. We must offer our lives as a living sacrifice to Him. We must deny and revoke the “incorporated church” and return and restore the Lord’s church to its rightful owner and Sovereign Head, the Lord Jesus Christ. “…let God be true and every man a liar.” Romans 3:4. “…and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:32.
If you are interested in more information, please contact Barbara Ketay of the Biblical Law Center. (321)253-2374.
Copyright: 2004 by Barbara Ketay, Melbourne, Florida 32904. No part of this article may be reproduced or transmitted in any form, or by any means, electronically, manually, or mechanically, including recording, copying, or by information storage or retrieval system, etc., without the express written permission of Barbara Ketay, and except as provided by the U.S. Copyright Law. Violation is a criminal offense punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. For further information write or telephone: Barbara Ketay, IN GOD WE TRUST, Ministry to the State church, P.O. Box 120744, Melbourne, Florida 32912-0744, (321)253-2374.
-crashaxeChurches get richer all the time and do almost nothing. They spread wrong information, threaten people, waste people's time and money and spend an inordinate amount of time arguing over which religion is right.
-Chris P