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Blacks say atheists were unseen civil rights heroes

Think of the civil rights movement and chances are the image that comes to mind is of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. leading the 1963 March on Washington.

But few people think of A. Philip Randolph, a labor organizer who originated the idea of the march and was at King's side as he made his famous "I Have a Dream" speech.

Why is King, a Christian, remembered by so many and Randolph, an atheist, by so few? It's a question many African-American nontheists — atheists, humanists and skeptics — are asking this Black History Month, with some scholars and activists calling for a re-examination of the contributions of nontheists of color to the civil rights movement and beyond.

"So often you hear about religious people involved in the civil rights movement, and as well you should, but there were also humanists," said Norm R. Allen Jr. of the Institute for Science and Human Values, a humanist organization based in Tampa, Fla.

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  • Kent Perry

    So WHAT! It's bad enough a liberal has to come up with this garbage just to advance atheism as if that is why this one guy got involved but to suggest it as if there were so many is BS. You would think if truth were really what this is about, the Republicans would be getting more credit for it rather than falsely being accused of racism. Especially since MLK was a Republican. Most democrats are socialist and most are atheist's. I doubt that is going to get much "freedom" and "liberty" started and as evidenced from history, atheist states usually become oppressive to the gates of hell

    • Myrtlelinder

      I believe these efforts was more to tear down Christianity that to promote atheism. The aim of "the world" today is to get pass Christianity and into false religions.

      • daves

        How can the world possibly have one aim since it is impossible to get everyone to agree on anything?

        • Paul

          That's why the Lord said "wide is the gate and broad the road that leads to destruction, and many enter". They may not agree on the method, but they're all in agreement that the Lake of Fire is preferable to the Kingdom of God.

  • blackhawk

    That's a simple answer. It's because they are not important at all.

  • Steve03

    Make that "Come send round the wine"!

  • tanklin99

    wish into one hand and crap into the other and see which one fills up first

  • Gizmo

    They're human – they're important. Throughout History, God chose those that didn't/don't follow His tenets to be used for different purposes, even those that are "good" "right" and even "Judeo/Christian".
    Each of their souls are just as "important" as anyone else's, & I can almost bet that if it's carefully researched, that many of these "non-theists" came to "theism" later in their lives. We see & hear of it all the time…..

    • Linda F.

      Amen, Gizmo.

    • daves

      Poor Judas.

    • BohdanUke1

      Hey, brainiac, only human beings have souls. Monkeys do not.

  • JPW

    History records it was (atheists) that enslaved them – and still keep them tethered!

    • Steve03

      Posting a lie twice doesn't make it true.

  • Tom

    Maybe A. Phillip Randolph preferred to remain behind the scene to further his own agenda. Labor leaders are more " in your face " today; consider the Occupy movement. Doctor King did God's work that needed to be done.

  • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

    What are you bathering about? What Atheists enslaved black people? It was the Christians in this country and many other Western countries that ran the slave trade. The bible allows slavery and that was part of their reasoning for enslaving other humans.

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      That should have been blathering.

      • Dntmkmecmoverther

        Either way Jeff, you are wrong. The foundation of the 'slave trade' (which is still thriving today by the way) was and is a function of the Muslims in Africa and Morocco.

        There were plenty of humanists, Christians and others who ran the slave transports. Does the name John Newton ring a bell? He resigned as captain of a slave ship, going on to fight within his ministry, the slave trade. Among other things he supplied us with the hymn 'Amazing Grace'.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          You claim that there were plenty of Christians who ran the slave transports, among others as well, and then say I was wrong to claim that Christians ran the slave trade. Thank you for my lol moment of the day.

          I did not say only Christians did this, there were most certainly others, but it was not the Atheists who were behind this and that was my primary point to JPW's silly comment.

    • Kalev

      Don't forget the Muslim involvement in the slave trade.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        Very true. More theists enslaving others. And they are still active in it today.

        • M Green

          Sure, Muslims did the capturing and Christians participated in enslaving. But it was the theories of the likes of atheists such as Voltaire that France embraced that lead to the Reign of Terror, and it was the eugenics of Darwin that Hitler embraced that lead to the slaughter of millions in Germany. You atheists aren't off scot-free, either. You do yourself no more favors than we Christians do by pretending that we are something more than people who often do horrible things no matter what belief system we subscribe to.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            I have never claimed that Atheists are perfect people. Many Atheists have done horrible things. However, Atheists do not do things in the name of Atheism. For example, the communist atheists did not kill in the name of atheism, they killed in the name of their state totalitarianism.

            It was hardly the theories of Darwin that Hitler used. He based his insane views on the bible, especially, the writing of Martin Luther, who was a raging anti-Semite.

            Voltaire was not an Atheist, he was a Deist. He disliked organized religion, but most certainly believed there was a god.

            "In February 1778, Voltaire returned for the first time in 20 years to Paris, among other reasons to see the opening of his latest tragedy, Irene. The 5-day journey was too much for the 83-year old, and he believed he was about to die on 28 February, writing "I die adoring God, loving my friends, not hating my enemies, and detesting superstition."
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire

          • Steve03

            Voltaire's "one prayer" has been answered again!
            Voltaire actually heaped the same scorn on the atheists of his day that he turned on pious hypocrites. Voltaire's writings has a much to do with the Declaration of Independence as they did with the Reign of Terror, and eugenics were neither Darwin's idea nor a necessary corollary of scientic Darwinism. And "social Darwinism" — of which engenics was a part — is alive today in the philosophy of Ayn Rand and the Republican Party.

        • JoJo

          Yes, the athiests are simply enslaving people through foodstamps, welfare, and other social programs. Some day the black community will wake up and realize that the humanists have been working overtime to keep them on the plantation.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            That would actually be the liberal Democratic Christians, not the Atheists. Atheism and liberalism are not the same thing.

    • Myrtlelinder

      The problem, Jeff we have all read your blathering so much that we may all be contaminated with blathering which means we may be blathering the same as you!!.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        If only you could be so lucky.

  • A. Reginald

    Every soul is important and I am diminsished by the death of anyone. It is indeed unfortunate in some ways that many atheists are more attune to the needs of society than are many "Christians." It is in the Bible where we see the quote, " Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." Yet it is true that far too many "Christians'" live by the rule, "Do unto thy neighbor before he does unto you!" A rather sad commentary. We who claim Christ as Savior should be among the first to at our neighbor's side when he/she needs assistance.

    • 48kindagal

      No. You've made statements that can't be backed up by facts. God has a plan for each life. We're accountable to Him at the end of it. Our own death affects our eternal future. It diminishes no one else. Second, it is not true that atheists are more attuned to the needs of others than Christians. That statement has no basis in fact. That can be borne out with research. Third. I know thousands of Christians and do not know a single one that lives by the motto you quoted. Baloney. Not that there are some who are a bit selfish, but you went over the top. Please give God's people more credit than that. I know Christians who would drop everything and come running this minute to help me if I called them, and they live extremely busy lives. They give of themselves and all of their resources in every way they can, volunteering, everything. Yes, there are some caring humanists. But they are the exception, not the rule.

      • Steve03

        Your Christians friends — the ones who would rush to help you — are also the exception to the rule. Don't compare our best to their worst: it leads you astray.

    • Myrtlelinder

      It is sad, A Reginald, what you are saying but " Do Unto Your Neighbor as You Would Have Him To Do Unto You" it is something HE tell us to do, which makes it a commandment.

      • Myrtlelinder

        I meant to say, What you are saying is correct, A Reginald.

    • Paul

      As long as we meet the need of his soul – to bring them the message of salvation through Jesus Christ. Else anything you do for their body is for naught.

  • Tom

    While atheist communists marched with the Sothern Christian Leadership Conference leaders the changes came about because of Christian influences on the other side. Although I was very young I lived through the changes in the rural south in the years of the civil rights movement. Atheism provides no form of inescapable judgement and provides no phlosophy to shape our conscious. Darwinism not only justifies the domination of one group over another it demands that it happen for the advancement of a species. Communist atheists could never cause the southern white man of that era to examine his soul and ask himself if what he was doing was right. Had atheism been the face of the movement it would have collapsed in a matter of weeks.

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Mankind has been dominating other humans for as long as they have existed. They did long before Darwin was born. To claim the Darwinism is what prompts people to do this is absurd. Darwin developed a theory of how living creatures change over time.

      Now, if you want to read something that discusses specifically ordering people to dominate another group, read religious texts.

      • Dntmkmecmoverther

        Jeff, it's not absurd at all. True enough Darwin comes along late in history, but plenty of others articulated his thinking and carried it out: Asharadon, Egyptian Pharaohs and countless others. Darwin simply articulated his thesis into a theory (false as it is). Taken to its ultimate end, the savagery we see is quite applicable to that world view…here is why:

        If I am the product of random chance evolution, no purpose or will of a creator, then I am held accountable to no one. I am just simply what I have become by time and randomality. Any 'moral code' is simply whatever is or has been decided by other randoms. The 'random humans' get to decide what is 'right, and wrong'. The foundational basis of 'Good and evil' can't exist in a Darwinian worldview, since everything that exists, does so by random chance; everything that exists is just what it is. No purpose.

        Only within a Biblical worldview based on faith in the God YHWH, does 'good' and 'evil' have a foundational starting point. I know you don't like that, but that's the truth.

        Outside this worldview, 'good and evil' are recognized based on what is 'reasonable' at the time. ie: in Nazi Germany it seemed reasonable to kill Jews and Gypsies.

        In Stalin's Russia it seemed reasonable to kill political dissidents, it was considered 'good' by many to get rid of those rebels. Slavery seemed 'good' to some…and as we understand 'slavery' in a western culture, we say that it's bad today. Morals become a moving entity outside of a Biblical worldview. Standards don't exist outside of a life with purpose which is determined by a creator.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          Of course it is absurd. The charge that Tom made was against Darwin. As I pointed out and you agreed with, Darwin came along long after people started doing this. Therefore, Darwin is not the reason.

          Theists are always saying that if we are a product of evolution, we are not held accountable to anyone. That is false. We are accountable to our friends, families, employers, co-workers and fellow citizens. We are held accountable to real people, not imiginary deities.

          It is not that the biblical worldview is a truth. It is an opinion, and one not based in science or rational thought. In fact, the biblical worldview is the opposite or real morality. If we based our lives on what the bible said is moral, we should be stoning non-virgins on their wedding nights (just the womenfolk, mind you) and disobedient children.

      • Myrtlelinder

        GOD does not demand we do anything. HE give us a choice to live for HIM and reap the benefits or to live for the world and reap those benefits. Not only do we get benefits but living for HIM is pure JOY, the greatest benefit of all!

    • Steve03

      Darwinism justifies no such thing. To claim it does makes as much sense as saying the laws of gravity justify the oppression of the working class. Social Darwinism — as preached by Ayn Rand, practiced by the robber barons of early capitalism, and embraced by today's Republican Party — is based on a deliberate misunderstanding of Darwin's ideas. You can no more blame Darwin for Jim Crow than you can blame Jesus for the Spanish Inquisition.

      • Bobseeks

        If the GOP practices social darwinism, why do the lieberals control most of the wealth? And, if the GOP is so heartless, why do lieberals give considerably less to charity than conservatives? If the lieberals are so compansionate, why are most of those who work in the food pantries in the area in which I live ( a solidly democratr cesspool) conservatives? If lieberals are so caring, why do those they "care" for end up in prison, addicted to drugs, and living lives without hope even after lieberals have spent trillions of dollars trying to "save" them (rhetorical question steve, I know that it is because lieberal scum siphon off the money for themselves)? Why is that steve03? Why is that lieberals such as yourself lie when they know that their lies can be uncovered?

        • Steve03

          Actually, conservatives claim they give more to charity when asked by telephone pollsters. Studies based on tax returns and the money actually received by charities tell a different story. And it's a general rule that the richer you are, the more likely you are to be a Republican. Tea Party supporters' median income is something like $75,000, which puts them solidly in the top 25% of the population in terms of income.
          And everywhere I've lived, it's been the mainstream denominations — the lieberals, as you so graciously describe them — that founded and finance and staff the food banks, day care centers, shelters, medical clinics, and mentoring services that provide for the poor. The conservative churches too busy sending Bibles to China and marching against abortion to lend a hand. Plus they can't stand to cooperate with those they disagree with. I suspect that's true where you are, too, but you just won't admit it.

          "The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all." — G.K. Chesterton

          • Bobseeks

            That facts are that you "mistaken". The use of the top 25% is a deceitful ruse to confuse the issue which is that, on the average, lieberals earn more and give less. Also, many of the clinics, day care centers and such that you mention are often funded by taxpayers and corporate grants, not lieberals. The facts are, when lieberals do "good" they do so in order to maintain control over the poor in order to maintain the demand for lieberal programs off of which you lieberal parasites feed. As far as cooperation goes, Christians are not to be yoked to unbelievers and lieberals are unbelievers. Forget the lies and half-truths stevie, all you have to do to convince me that lieberalism is anything but evil is to produce one verse of Scripture in which GOD endorses sexual depravity, abortion, sloth, theft, perpetual poverty, or the government assuming responsibility for the individual (i.e. the lieberal agenda). That is all you have to do stevie; just one verse.

          • Steve03

            How about Psalm 72 (the king is certainly the government, and this not just a prophecy about Jesus):
            1 Give the king thy justice, O God, and thy righteousness to the royal son!
            2 May he judge thy people with righteousness, and thy poor with justice!
            3 Let the mountains bear prosperity for the people, and the hills, in righteousness!
            4 May he defend the cause of the poor of the people, give deliverance to the needy, and crush the oppressor!
            11 May all kings fall down before him, all nations serve him!
            12 For he delivers the needy when he calls, the poor and him who has no helper.
            13 He has pity on the weak and the needy, and saves the lives of the needy.
            And if you want to know what God thinks of governments that don't measure up to this standard, see Ezekiel 34.

  • Gordon

    When God so chooses, even the Devil will help accomplish His purposes. "…Had they known, they would not have crucified the Prince of Glory."

  • lafartisha

    Yalls crazy poppers. Aint never heard of no blacks being no slaves for nobody. Get yo facts straight woman, black folk been dancin and rappin for 1200 years!

    • Kalev

      Yep, you sound like Rev. Al Sharpton.

    • David in MA

      Why don't you start a "Back To Africa" movement,
      because other than you defecating it would be the
      only movement you might be capable of.

  • Kalev

    More on the growing godlessness in America. "As in the days of Noah…"

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Better start shipbuilding then.

  • Bobseeks

    Maybe this is why the civil rights movement has been less than successful in producing true progress. One cannot expect to mix the sewage of atheism with the purity of Christ and expect purity. The civil rights movement has produced only illusory gains due to affimative action and other worthless programs that have done little to improve the status of many blacks and which rely on denying rights and opportunities to those who are not minorities. The CR movement has produced a patholgical culture that is destroying the lives of many black people and no one has the courage to admit the truth. Meanwhile we watch its products being shipped off to prison, to addiction, and to welfare. GOD warned us not to be yoked to unbelievers and there are consequences to doing so.

  • http://www.manningjohnson.org JTL

    A better question would be, why have black Americans been overlooked who stood against the so-called "civil rights" revolution, and called it for what it was.

    Manning Johnson was such a man. He was a high-ranking member of the CPUSA in the 1930s until he turned around. He spoke out against forced integration and warned Americans what the "civil rights" movement was really about, who was behind it, and what would likely come of it. His book and last speech are online. Google them!

    • Steve03

      If you knew more about Soviet nationalities policy in Stalin's day, you'd be more suspicious of Johnson's "conversion" to democracy.

      • http://www.manningjohnson.org JTL

        Well, feel free to enlighten us, sir. :-)

        • Bobseeks

          Don't hold your breath JTL, steve03 has yet to offer anything of any value to the discussion.

          • http://www.manningjohnson.org JTL

            Thanks for the heads up Bobseeks. Now that Steve03 has replied again, I see your point.

    • Steve03

      JTL never studied the Soviet Union and knows nothing of communism except what he learned from the McCarthy hearings. And that testimony is not of terribly high quality, as neither was anywhere near as close to the center of things as they pretended. Johnson and Chambers and their ilk stuck with Stalin through the famines and purges. They saw the light only when it became politically expedient and financially remunerative to do so.

      • Steve03

        I should have added, Жизнь прожить – не поле перейти

  • fiercelook

    This is off the subject, but more and more, due to the internet censorship that is increasing, I will attempt to place my commentary from the other day here. It is occurring more and more on other conservative sites that you are not able to post your comments. It is just furter indication of the developing police state that AMERIKA is becoming.So, here it goes: Nothing, it will not let me paste my saved commentary.

  • Rev Larry R

    before you say that no man is an island ,that is true but not in your context a man can be an island as long as he is one with God /Jesus Christ ,that is where all power comes from

    • Steve03

      Nothing — not even an atheist's foolishness or your intolerance — can separate us from the love of God. If atheists and idolaters are cut off from God's love, then at least 2/3 of humanity is doomed (only 1/3 of all people profess the Christian faith).
      Does your church evangelize only the saved?

      • Bobseeks

        Yes, stevie, most of humanity is doomed as you would know if you knew anything of Scripture. "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Me." Jesus in John 14:6. Anyone who does not believe that, is no Christian. And, by the way, it is atheists and humanists who preach tolerance, GOD is 100% intolerant of sin and it is only through Christ that sinners (meaning all humanity) can find salvation. If you do not believe that, you deny the teachings of Scripture and are no Christian. Christianity is not a "roll your own" faith; it is clearly defined in Scripture for all who are truly faithful. By the way, REV Larry is evangelizing because he is pointing out to the lost reading his post that all power comes from Jesus. You are reverse evangelizing by posting what appear to be universalist lies which falsely imply that all are saved. Once again your posts prove that you are either ignorant, an atheist troll, or perhaps an avatar of one of the atheists that infest this website.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          Maybe he is a Muslim terrorist, bobbie. The sky is the limit when your paranoid delusions start flairing up.

          • Bobseeks

            Zzzzzzzzzzz. Did someone just make a crude noise?

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            If you heard a crude noise, it came from where you are sitting, bobbie. These are posts on a website and are not making any noise.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            God can use Atheists, they just don't know it!!!!!!!!!!

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            It is not that we do not know it, it is that nothing is actually occurring that a deity started. Myths have a hard time actually doing anything.

        • Steve03

          Bob, Christ died even for you, sinless though you are. It's nice to see that while Jesus had no place to lay his head in this life, his ideas enjoy uninterrupted slumber in the hearts of his followers.

          • Bobseeks

            Quote some Scripture to back up your earlier comments.

          • Steve03

            Proverbs 23:9 commands me to be silent.

  • Kalev

    Excellent observation there Bobseeks. Indeed the black community does not have the courage to admit the truth.

    • Bobseeks

      And, until they admit the truth, there will be no solution.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        The CR movement has destroyed the black community. That has been done by liberal social programs that pay women to have babies out of wedlock. When the women cannot get a check unless the father of the child is out of the house, then the basic family structure has been eliminated.

        This problem has nothing to do with blacks being allowed to rent or buy homes, obtain jobs or an education, or even vote, which is what the CR movement set out to correct.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          whoops, meant to say the CR movement has NOT destroyed the black community.

  • Kalev

    Amerika has been a police state since 1871, search "Act of 1871" for why.

    • Mistertea

      So President Grant (who asked for the Civil Rights Act of 1871) was the instigator of a "police state", Kalev? ROTFLMAO!!

  • Alex

    As more times goes by and these events are filed farther back in time within our history, it is evident, that none were the pure cause that they were defined to be. Social justice masking communisim and all the other "isms", replaced the message of the cross in many black churches, while organized labor, another communistic animal, joined hands with those seeking secular justice, no matter how much they stated they were Christians or ministers. In other words, we've been had. How does entitlement, and re-distribution of wealth have anything to do with Christianity? If those who seek "justice" are unable or unwilling to rely of the "faith of our fathers", then they must attain the strong arm of the government. Then, what sort of government do we really have?

  • Chris

    Fiercelook

    The right get to publish their nasty threatening monologues here and elsewhere. Threatening atheists, liberals and the president is a popular sport They call themselves Christians but behave like ignorant nasty thugs.

    They do not seem to be able to set a good example.

    • Bobseeks

      Chris: Actually, what you are referring to is people telling the truth about atheists and lieberals who, buy the way, have been responsible for the murders of tens of millions and countless acts of violence against decent people. Look up stalin, mao, hitler, pol pot (all fine examples of those who hold the atheist/lieberal worldview) and see what they were guilty of. Of course, you won't do that because the truth is not of any value to you. Look at the lieberals over in greece to see a present day example of how atheist/lieberals behave themselves or just look in the prisons to see the fruits of atheistic lieberalism.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        And Christians have killed tens of millions as well. The invasion of the Americas by the Christian Europeans for example.

        "And then the Spanish turned their attention to the mainland of Mexico and Central America. The slaughter had barely begun. The exquisite city of Tenochtitln [Mexico city] was next." [SH75]
        Cortez, Pizarro, De Soto and hundreds of other spanish conquistadors likewise sacked southern and mesoamerican civilizations in the name of Christ (De Soto also sacked Florida).
        "When the 16th century ended, some 200,000 Spaniards had moved to the Americas. By that time probably more than 60,000,000 natives were dead." [SH95] "
        http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

      • Mistertea

        "..buy the way" – yes, Bobseeks, I expect you can and do buy plenty of ways..

    • KnowTheTruthToday

      I guess you think your group is lilly white, yep, right.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        Jeff Dixon · 2 hours ago
        I have never claimed that Atheists are perfect people. Many Atheists have done horrible things.

        As this post from two hours ago shows, I think no such thing.

        Maybe you can try for knowing the truth tomorrow, but you are missing it today.

    • David in MA

      If thy eye offends the, pluck it out….
      Looking at obozo offends me and I have
      "plucked" his image out of my vision.

      Admit it, you dislike the fool but "because he be black" you support him,
      well, friend, he is enslaving all of us (yes, even you supporting black folks)
      with his islamic socialism he wants to impliment.

    • Linda F.

      Says the ignorant, nasty thug named Chris!

  • Noa

    So lets see. The Blacks built America, the anglo Saxon race is standing against the so called the progress that the civil rights movement promised, and now we are to believe that the atheists are the ones responsible for the success of the civil rights movement! I see the strategy here. Just ignore the legal culture of the early settlers and refuse to acknowledge the good fruit they produced! This strategy in other words has made room to suggest that atheism is more humane than Christianity, more apt to protect the oppressed against the built in inequalities left behind by the early American settlers, the framers etc. Black liberation theology, mixed with atheism (communism) has produced this alternative world view in an attempt to undo so called inequalities created by American nativism. This phenomenon opened the door to the idea of positive law which is a perverted form of natural rights not to mention a miss read of American culture. This is where the civil rights movement has evolved to today! The real problem is Christians are in retreat in terms of holding a comprehensive faith, i.e., a faith that includes a legal system. There is in other words a void that was created when Christians began stripping law out of their belief system. This started with Darby, Larkin, Scofield, Lahay and others who insist that Gods law is no longer binding or authoritative in human or civil matters. True civil justice, these types believe, will only come in a future age when Gods law will be obeyed by all nations automatically. All of the social problems inflicting Americans today are the result of this shift from theistic law to humanism and Christians are complicit in this since they uniformly say that Gods law is impossible to keep!

    • David in MA

      You must be a sexually defunct catholic, right?

  • bluqe

    Look at the history of atheist's and you will find they are not much for getting up and supporting any group or groups outside thier core group. Hell the blacks do not give much recognition to the whites or the jews who certainly made the talk and the walk right along with the blacks. I right it off as a black cultural problem and that way it becomes easy to understand. Cuts down on wasting time on the unexplainable nonsense that prevails so readily in all walks of American life today. Blah, blah, blah. Therefore you must be racist, it is pathetic.

    • Mistertea

      Go on, bluqe. Point us to a "history of atheist's" that wasn't written by Glenn Beck out of his own imagination. ROTFLMAO!!

  • Skyknight

    The real answer is that he was not only an atheist, but he was a Communist which has had control of the labor Unions for years.

    • eyzewydeopen

      ANd the democrat party. He's seen shaking the hand of good old LBJ, the old socialist. He and his cronies has JFK assasinated, cuz he wanted to take down the fed. Now old LBJ, who picked up his beagles by the ears, (Ihated him instantly for that), was a great force in the socialization of the democrat party, elisiting the likes of the above man. Black liberation theology, is the way the sochalists have infiltrated black Christians churches, community orginizations like ACORN, and esp. public labor unions. I just talked to a black male co-worker, who thinks Baarrrak, is just great. He will NOT look at him realistically. There a lots of people black and white who will keep drinking the koolaid of the left. We need to vote prayerfully this fall, get this jerk of out of our country.

  • KnowTheTruthToday

    If they had actually done anything important you would have heard about it years ago. They just want attention and hopefully they will get it in another country.

  • KnowTheTruthToday

    Sure they helped – sure they did – right.

  • bmene

    Is this another O'Vomits attempt to put christians down in favor of muslims?

  • Evan

    Today's atheist is a future Christian as was the Apostle Paul. Those who profess Christianity who spout hatred for atheists must feel Paul shouldn't have been given the chance since his initial opposition should have sent him straight to hell.

    True Christians are not barbarians masquerading as Christians who make a mockery of Christ by spouting hatred for atheists.

    • Bobseeks

      I don't see anyone spouting hate for atheists, I see people telling the truth about atheists. Those who equate telling the truth with hate are satan's followers, not Christ's. Find me one instance where Jesus or His apostles remained quiet in the face of lies and evil and I will give some thought to your ignorant, effiminate, evil-appeasing, pseudo-Christian comment.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        bobbie, you do not even know what truth is.

      • Steve03

        Hate has so pervaded your soul that you can't even recognize it as hate anymore.

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Today's Christian is a future Atheist. The best way to ensure someone becomes an Atheist is to make sure they know what is in the bible.

      • CrispyCritters

        Idiot!

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          I am sure you are one, Crispy

      • Paul

        Not so.
        Faith comes by hearing, hearing the Word of God.
        Knowing what's in the Bible is the only eye opening experience that can explain the state of things in the world.
        Sin is the cause, and the consequences can be seen all around us.
        God has the solution – Jesus Christ.

  • http://twitter.com/lambsev11 @lambsev11

    Atheists and communists. Soup and sandwiches. They are always in the mix where social upheaval is found, they are looking to grab power. Unfortunately American liberals drink the kool-aid. Read "Red Star over Hollywood" by Ronald Radosh, and "The Witness" by Whittaker Chambers.
    http://www.amazon.com/Red-Star-Over-Hollywood-Col…
    http://www.amazon.com/Witness-Whittaker-Chambers/…

  • ONTIME

    The gaining of civil rights was not clean and pure as those who write the history would have anyone believe, many of various ideology were involved and that included advice from atheist and communist, only this is never mentioned but there is a lot of evidence to support the fact…..

  • msjallen

    Martin Luther King hired communist Stanley David Levison to write his speeches and raise his funds. Levison functioned as the recipient of financial aid from the Soviet Union that was used by the Communist Party in America. King also placed communist Hunter Pitts O’Dell on his staff and, when warned that his top aide was a communist, he fired O’Dell in one city and quickly hired him in another.
    When King’s connections to communists (Levison, O’Dell, James Dombrowski, Carl and Anne Braden, Abner Berry, and others) became known, President John Kennedy urged him to pull away from them. After FBI officials alerted Attorney General Robert Kennedy about the communists in the King entourage, the President’s brother authorized official surveillance, including wire taps, to document King’s activities. Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach later reauthorized the surveillance.

  • msjallen

    Born in 1929, King was the son of a Black preacher known at the time only as "Daddy King." "Daddy King" named his son Michael. In 1935, "Daddy King" had an inspiration to name himself after the Protestant reformer Martin Luther. He declared to his congregation that henceforth they were to refer to him as "Martin Luther King" and to his son as "Martin Luther King, Jr." None of this name changing was ever legalized in court. "Daddy" King's son's real name is to this day Michael King.

  • http://yahoo.com jericho777

    Well, that explains allot then, with many blacks turning to Islam and the chants to kill cracker babies and cracker momma's, that could very well go hand in hand to the hatefulness most atheist are aligned with, and their attack on Christianity. What a sad lie to pass around too, there were thousands of white Christians who sacrificed allot for the equality of blacks and you never ever hear as much as a whisper of the involvement of whites helping blacks win their freedoms, only in the text and capacity that whites were the suppressors, and you can bet that Christians helped the blacks, more so than did the atheist, and that's a guarantee…With the black gangs ratcheting up black on white crime, I just hope it don't trigger the hate groups that we have been successful in eradicating to the point, that they have pretty much gone underground…If this keeps up and the threats that we had better reelect Obama, you can count on this, if the blacks riot due to Obama's losing, all of the blacks will suffer the consequences for it, and I'm in no way being threatening, it's the white hate groups that will will exact their perceived vengeance and there are enough of them to matter?

  • Robert Wayne

    I can see why the black rabble rousers from the past were on the side of atheists. All of those so called "reverends" of theirs like M.L. King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. weren't Christians at all. They were lowlife communists in reality and we all know how much communists hate Christians.

  • Armed Partisan

    A. Philip Randolph was a Socialist/Communist, and for that reason, he was less than celebrated in that era, and he will remain so in the future.

  • Eileen

    I guess thats why so many blacks voted for Obama.

  • ounbbl

    It's simple. There is no purpose of anything in life when they have no God. Even civil rights movement is nothing more than a game they just play. Why they have to be freed rather than remain as slaves? Their goal in life is 'power', not creative power as of God's love, but power to control others to rule over.

  • Dougded

    Yah, And that's why the black community is so sucessful and their leaders so squeeky clean. It is a minority in their community that truely excell because they have two parents that go to church. They have done themselves in. We have had almost sixty years of preferential treatment directed their way and still they complain and moan and want more. It's old and tired and we as a country are about over it.

  • David in MA

    Rosa Parks-maybe
    The montomery four-maybe
    But other than them the rest were only
    communist inspired puppets.
    even king~ the lesser.

  • Alf

    While my ancestors were not pro-slavery, and I was friends with negro classmates throughout my school years, I am convinced that the blacks of today's America continue to take giant steps backward by embracing the rhetoric of today's political terrorists. Look at the disappearance of the highly respectable negro families that lived within my early neighborhood, young men that we used to honor by electing them to positions of importance in our schools, now quit school and enter into lives of crime. Young negro women, previously known for polite and sincere integrity, now are pushed into teen-motherhood for profit, and are trapped therein by evil government programs designed to keep them dependent on the whims of selfish politicians using their votes to insure their personal quests for the communist agenda. In this environment, there is no hope of fulfilling the need for respectful kinship of the cross-section of America's many subcultures. I fear for the progeny of our country.

  • Ithamar

    The truth is that they were all humanist/Marxist/atheist. King was a fornicating Marxist/humanist who comfortably joined with other anti-Christians to advance left wing ideology and the destruction of constitutional liberty. Any one who lived through the 'civil rights' movement with rational observation knows the facts. Yet today, we have 'evangelical' ministers marching on MLK day honoring an anti-Christian, anti-American, immoral tool of communists operatives in America and abroad. Lieing about the civil rights movement and its leaders will not advance the black race; it will only do it greater harm.

  • Damondg820

    This is no more than another breech of the Communist deception destroying America. Funny how the Ku Klux Klan warned of this in the 1960's but nobody listened. Ok, Now for the Blacks–Did you know that when God cursed Hem for looking upon Noah's nakedness what happened to him, he was marked and cursed and God's words were he would be a servant to his brother.Do you know who the descendants of Hem are? Guess.

  • Buck

    There were very few athiests in America back then and even fewer if any had any concern for slavery or blacks , they have just been reading more progressive invented history .

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