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The Mittens Come Off in Mesa

Mitt Romney's campaign is essentially plastic and dishonest, an insuperable problem Wednesday's debate in Mesa, Arizona, underscored yet again for disenchanted primary voters. Romney bested a rattled Rick Santorum in it, but this victory, like his others, looked hollow and dispiriting.

One suspects that Romney's low surrogates paid punks to enter the debate hall and loudly boo his opponents. Not that Santorum didn't deserve a few. He blew it, exposing himself to repeated strikes from a Ron Paul-Mitt Romney pincer movement. Seated to Santorum's right and left, Paul and Romney took turns needling him. If, as the saying goes, a candidate "who is explaining is losing," then Santorum lost very badly. He kept getting entangled in the weeds of boring disputes from the past in which he had betrayed this or that conservative principle.

Romney, at his most hypocritical, labored hard to present himself as more socially conservative than Santorum, noting that Rick had voted for Planned Parenthood funding. Astonishingly, Santorum missed his chance at a return upper cut. Why didn't he mention that Romney once gave money to Planned Parenthood from his own pocket? Why didn't he mention that Romneycare dollars go to Planned Parenthood?

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  • http://www.OnlyWay.com David McElroy

    Ron Paul is the real conservative, standing on the US Constitution for smaller, less costly, less intrusive government, liberty, peace, and prosperity. Santorum is a rube supporting big government, fascism and aggressive war while prostituting Christ for his political gain. Let's see the GOP field cut to a Romney-Paul contest. Romney is just Obama in a white face, speaking from both sides of his RINO mouth every day.

    • Bobseeks

      Ron Paul is a libertarian, not a conservative.

      • Kalev

        And libertarians support gay rights, gay marriage and abortion, that's not a conservative agenda.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          It is an agenda of personal responsibility and leaving others alone. That is a very conservative agenda.

          • M Green

            Personal responsibility would be understanding that sex–while certainly fun–can certainly produce babies and taking responsibility to at the least bring that life into this world instead of whining that we have no control over our desires and killing a child because you didn't think you could produce a child by the act of sex. I'm all for leaving someone alone, but not when it's taking someone's life.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Then Christians need to start voicing support for comprehensive birth control education, which is the best way to make sure people understand how to prevent the pregnancy.

        • Dean

          No they don't! They support freedom from unconstitutional government intervention! The don't believe the government has the authority to force the people to approve of homosexuality! Where the government is not concerned why involve them unless you feel they are superior to the Constitution! They believe that Marriage is a concern of the Church, not the State! Murder is murder in any country!

        • molly

          Ron Paul DOES NOT SUPPORT ABORTION!!! or homosexual marriage. Check out his official web site.

        • Ducky

          Not all libertarians do. Don't confuse libertine with libertarian. And, never confuse libertarian with liberal. I know it's confusing, but they all have a difference.

      • Dean

        Ron Paul is Constitutionalist! What would you call our Founding Fathers? The fact of the matter is, if the government were properly constrained by our Constitution as intended by our Founding Fathers we would be a much freer nation! The government should have no say in many of the areas of concern today and we are enslaved by the overreach of an unaccountable and unconstitutional government! If we allow the government a place at the table where they have no place, we all lose! Putting the government in it's place is the work of a true conservative! The problem is, both the democrats and the republicans have supported unconstitutional actions for over a hundred years and we are all paying dearly for it now! The governments role is clearly defined in our Constitution, if they aren't given authority there, they don't have it, period!

    • GUEST

      VERY WE'LL SAID…Dave. Santorum Is No Conservative. He wants A War With Iran, For Israel'''''!) He Supported LATE TERM ABORTION ARLEN SPECTER For Relection OVER A True Conservative..Tom Toomey In PA. santorum Voted To Increase Spending. Is a WARMONGER As Was John McCAIN"! No More WARMongers In The Party'! The Hell With Israel'''$$ Let's Worry about America'! RON PAUL Cares About America'! He Wants The Government Out Of OUR Lives'! Ron Paul Talks LIBERTY, Not For Other $$ Leech Sucking Foreign Aid Countrie's. Evangelical Christians Supported George Bush jr. We Got 5,400 Dead American's Because Of Their 'Naive' Support For Israel. No More Wars….!..No Wars For Israel'''! Support Dr.Ron Paul For The Presidency'! (Air Force Vet,Viet-Nam Era) I Never Forgot My High School Buddy Dead In Viet-Nam. It's Not Patriotic Dying For Your Country Except In Defense Of The Continental USA. Dr.Ron Paul Understands That AMERICA Comes First'!

  • Bobseeks

    The GOP needs to call a mulligan and start over. Romney and Paul are non-starters and Santorum is starting to fade. It is almost as if the GOP is intentionally throwing the election. What gives, is the GOP part of the conspiracy to destroy America?

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      You see a conspiracy behind every closed door and drawn shade. You probably hide when the girl scouts ask you to buy cookies because you are concerned that they are planning on destroying America as well. You are not only delusional, you are also paranoid.

      • Bobseeks

        Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. This will be my reply to your insane rants and lies from now on jeffie, you are not worthy of debate.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          It is no different than your other responses, for they made no sense either. And it is less hate filled, which makes it easier to read. So, thank you for not spewing out your normal idiotic replies.

          • http://youtu.be/uAeccsh1VJ4 Despeville

            Every cultist claims "hate, hate, hate" instead to deal with arguments. This is a core of tactic used by Roman Catholics, Mormons, JWs, Homosexuals or materialistic naturalistic religious like you… Every word you plaster here testifies to your foolishness and ignorance. Your are constantly documenting the case for decrying of what you trying to defend – schizophrenic, inconsistent, myopic and insane view on life and world combined with your vehement hatred and rebellion against God.

          • Bobseeks

            Amen.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            And once again, you are completely wrong. I do not hate any gods. I do not hate any mythical concepts. I do not claim hate, hate , hate with all my posts. I reserve that for people like little bobbie, who clearly hates many different people. He is like Fred Phelps, who also is one who clearly hates many people.

            I can't think of a time when I said you that write hate filled comments, so obviously, I do not use throw out the charge of hate against all people I debate.. You do lie on occassion and I point out those comments, but lying is certainly not hatred.

            But continue on with your red herring and ad hominem attacks. They have nothing to do with my actual arguments, which you are clearly unwilling to actually comment on.

          • Bobseeks

            Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Get some rest bobbie. Ranting takes a lot of energy.

  • Kalev

    Yes the establishment GOP'ers are New World Order proponenents.
    The only viable option that remains is The Constitution Party.

    • Myrtlelinder

      Won't make a lot difference, the One World Order is here to stay till JESUS comes is my opinion. I see nothing to stop it. There are so many liberals who support it most of the Democrats and many Republicans. I think that GOD will have to move against this thing to stop it. No other way, possible

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        There is not a one world order in existence now.

  • GUEST

    This Is a Simple Question To All Voters. Do You Want America To Fade Into history. America Is 'Broke' And Both The Dem's And Republicrats Caused This. The Minorities (Blacks,Hispanic's,Illegal Mexicans And Central American's) Vote Dumbocrat Because They Give 'THEM' The Money From The Worker's In America's Society. As The Welfare Crowd Grows….We The Supporters $$ Get a Null Vote. They Will Take Over The Country And America will Either Have A Civil War Or The NEW WORLD ORDER Will Rule. The Only Chance For a Future SOUND America……IS. DR.RON PAUL. SIMPLE.

  • Kalev

    The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.~P.J. O'Rourke

  • Kalev

    The problem with political jokes is they get elected. ~Henry Cate, VII

  • Kalev

    Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel.
    ~John Quinton

    • Bobseeks

      Excellent quote!

  • bighoss

    James Carville on "politics":

    "'Politics'–it comes from two Greek words: 'poly'–means many; "ticks"–means blood-sucking animals. Many blood-sucking animals!"

    • Bobseeks

      Definition of Politics (Greek in origin) = of, for, or relating to citizens. Your quote is funny but is a lie. No surprise since it comes from a supporter of murder, sexual perversion, welfare, sloth, and the ultimate evil, maobama.

      • Bobseeks

        By the way, carville is the epitome of political corruption. I can't imagine any decent person quoting someone like him.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          You are more of a Fred Phelps kind of guy, that is true.

      • Steve03

        A joke is not a lie, except perhaps to a fool.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          little bobbie cannot tell the difference between jokes and lies. The delusion runs deep in that one.

      • bighoss

        Bobseeks, you are so-o-o-o deadly serious! Loosen up a bit and enjoy the funny stuff.

        You are suffering from acute lumper's syndrome, Bobseek. There is no other rational explanation for your characterization of me. Just because I have SOME liberal views, you have jumped to the conclusion that I support any and all views you consider liberal. Bad call, Bobseeks. Let's put your opinion to the test. For starters, I challenge you to fine one single post where I have supported sexual perversion.

        • Bobseeks

          You vote for a democrat, you support sexual perversion. it is as simple as that. You are like the german who supported hitler because he brought a sense of pride to the germans – he may not have hated jews himself, but he was just as guilty of the murder of 6 million jews as was hitler. I doubt that your limited intellect can understand this concept, but when you support a democrat, you support all the evil that comes with supporting the democrats – murder, sloth, sexual perversion, theft, oppression, corruption, etc,, etc., etc. You are guilty, bighoss and your claim to faith is a lie.

    • Steve03

      You've left you whimsy shield down again.

  • Donald Dunnam

    In my view the only legitimate candidate is Ron Paul. Possibly also the only real Christian in the group. The rest want to continue world police actions and Paul demanded we return to the Christian view of only fighting justified wars which includes a declaration of war by Congress. That would stop those who are profiting from both sides.

  • Patricia Leonaitis

    I agree with those pushing for Dr. Paul. At least he Is what he says he is– a Real conservative. PL

  • http://twitter.com/lambsev11 @lambsev11

    Abortion is a plague and a curse on all our houses. Reverse Roe V Wade, remove the curse.

    Proverbs 14:34
    Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

    2 Chronicles 7:14
    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.