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Is Christianity the Only Means to Eternal Life?

A recent survey conducted by LifeWay Research found that while a majority of Protestant pastors believe Christianity is the only way to obtain eternal life, there is a small percentage who strongly feel other religions offer eternal salvation as well.

The survey asked 1,000 Protestant pastors the question, "If a person is sincerely seeking God, he/she can obtain eternal life through religions other than Christianity."

Seventy-seven percent of the pastors questioned said that they strongly disagree with the statement and seven percent somewhat disagreed. Another seven percent somewhat agreed and five percent strongly agreed. Three percent said they are not sure.

The educational level of the pastor played a role in their decision making. Pastors with a graduate degree were more likely to strongly agree with the statement, and less likely to strongly disagree, compared to pastors with a bachelor's degree or less.

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  • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

    Not according to Roman Catholicism… Watch this Roman Catholic Cardinal Pell from Australia in a "debate" with Richard Dawkins repeatedly stating otherwise and testifying also repeatedly how vastly different from the original pseudo gospel of Rome really is:

    Atheist asks Cardinal Pell (around 41 minutes in) what will happen to him when he dies, he says

    (Cardinal) Well, I know from the Christian point of view, God loves everybody. But every genuine motion towards the truth is a motion towards God. And when an atheist dies, like everybody else, they'll be judged on the extent to which they have moved towards goodness and truth and beauty. But in the Christian view, God loves everyone except those who turn their back on him through evil acts.
    (Moderator): Oh, so atheism – not an evil act.
    (Cardinal): No, not a – well, no I don't – in most cases its not.
    …
    (Moderator): Is it possible for an atheist to go to heaven?
    (Cardinal): Well, it's not my business.
    (Moderator): No, but well, you're the only authority we have here.
    (Cardinal): I would say 'certainly, certainly!'

    Around 49 minutes in, the Cardinal shares his views on hell and salvation from it:
    (Moderator) Where do you draw the line? Do unbelievers go to hell?
    (Cardinal) No, no, no. The only people – Well, (1) I hope nobody's in hell. We Catholics generally believe that there is a hell. I hope nobody is there. I certainly believe in a place of purification. I think it will be like getting up in the morning and you throw the curtains back and the light is just too much. God's light would be too much for us. But I believe on behalf of the innocent victims in history, that the scales of justice should work out and if they don't, life is radically unjust: the law of the jungle prevails.

    VIDEO: http://youtu.be/tD1QHO_AVZA

    • daves

      If these pastors in the article said you could get into heaven without being a Christian then they would lose a lot of their parishioners and a lot of money.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        Works for Rome, the great adulteress with whom powerful of this world commit adultery. In fact the more blasphemous she is and the more whoring she does the more money she gets…

        • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

          Who do you commit Adultry with?

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Hmm, from Rome and its doctrines of demons you have distilled it to me and implied ad hominem attack. Seems all you Romanists run on exactly same program: shallow 1.0

          • Rev Larry

            If your thought is toward lust of a woman that is adultery or the lust of any thing else it is a sin desire is not lust there is a difference.

          • Evermyrtle

            Absolutely!!!

      • Don

        The issue here may very well be heaven. But that is not what Christ stressed. Rather than stressing heaven, Jesus stressed kingdom of heaven. They are not one and the same. Go to Ecclesiastes and read what it has to say. It was written by Solomon as he was inspired to write. You will, or should discover something so many are missing. You should learn that in death, you are not completely in a state of unconsciousness, knowing nothing. But you will learn the very nature of man in his existence. And if you pit scripture from the new testament with this, you soon begin to see a full picture.
        You will find that everyone, who is born as man, dies, but death is for the body only. There is more to the man than flesh and blood. It is not that heaven is reserved for some, but all. But once getting there, there is one of two places one will end up. To the left or to the right of God, who is the Savior, the Christ, the Promise fulfilled to the completeness. On the one side, wailing and lamenting. On the other side, songs of rejoicing.

        • Rev Larry

          But remember this don God/ Jesus Christ" said and I if I be lifted up ,(refering to the way that He would die ) I will draw ALL men unto me" also " and on the last day all the dead will come forth whereever they are and the gospel will be preached, and those who beleve will have eternal salvation and those who do not believe will have eternal torment" there are those who are in hell right now and will be there according to scripture untill the last day at least 1000yrs to go , about.

          • Don

            You are a minister and you do not know. How have you come to know the things you know. Man or God. Is God mum, is God silent. Does not God see the fallen state of the churches. Does God turn his eye from deceptions that are given in his name.
            I may not have the fullness of knowledge or wisdom. It should sustain me to eat a little at a time than to become gluttonous.
            We are in the last days and therefore no man should look to having a thousand years until that joyous moment when Christ returns. We are afterall in the seventh week of post creation. In that six thousand years have passed and we have entered into the seventh. And had been for more than two hundred years.
            You have accepted the eternal torment doctrine because it seems right and the temporal eyes see that that is so as written. But why do the eyes of men fail to see all the scripture that provide to them a meaning to which they believe and may force them to change. The same can be said of that notable doctrine many call the rapture, or the snatching away.
            I once believed in both an eternal hell of suffering and torment. I once believed that in the last days believers would be taken away. But I believed because I was a child and the Lord God desired that I should not remain so. Of myself I know nothing. The knowledge and wisdom of man delivers him downward, but the knowledge and wisdom of God raises him upward.
            You have been trained well in theology, but training is given by men. Men cannot be trusted. If I say that God did not declare 70 years captivity for the nation of Judah, you might say, "he knows not what he's talking about". But I say that God declared 70 years the nation of Judah would be under the yoke of Babylon and the other nations as well. A yoke and captivity are not the same.
            Or I might say that according to Daniel, he was taken captive to Babylon in the 11th year of Jehoiakim, king of Judah. And you might respond that that is not what is written, because it clearly says that it was the third year and not the eleventh year as I suppose. However, if pitting scriptures together it is then determined that both are correct.
            Jehoiakim reigned for 11 years. In the eighth year, Nebuchadnezzar invaded Judah, leaving Jehoiakim to reign. Jehoiakim had been placed on the throne by Necho, Pharaoh of Egypt, replacing Jehoahaz who had been chosen to be the king of Judah by the people. And Jehoiakim became a vassal king for three years. but Jehoiakim sought alliance with Egypt during that time. And you know the rest.
            I must ask. Where exactly is hell. Is it in the heart of the earth. Is it among the flowing rivers of lava far beneath. If the body of the man dies, what then suffers. Man has a soul. So do the beasts of the earth. Is there then an advantage of man over a beast. Why hath God made us flesh. Where were you when God delivered the first breath of this creation. Were you nothing, not yet conceived, nothing nothing, feeling nothing.
            The Lord your God was so right and truthful saying that we have been told all things. He told us of that daily struggle of a man between his flesh and his spirit. Where then has the spirit come and where shall it go that the flesh be torn away and leaves it naked without a place of dwelling. Do it not return to God. All men, both righteous and unrighteous, just and unjust share in death. Neither has an advantage. Both have within a spirit that God delivered over to the body that through the body the spirit might be given reconciliation to the Father through the salvation of the Father as the Son, who was also made flesh.
            I am sorry. You have been trained well by men, but the totality of that training is in complete truth. Until the temporal eyes are overcome by the eyes of the spirit men will see only what seems right to them. But it isn't the truth they grasp, but a false truth, a misleading truth.

      • Evermyrtlelinder

        There is no real true Christian who would make such a remark!! CHRIST and believing this is what make a Christin. HE is the only who has a recorded truth who has given HIS LIFE, and in such a horrendous suffering way for HIS people. If there is a minister who does not believe this he should get out of the Christianministry, he is the wrong one to be serving,

        John 14:6 JESUS said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the FATHER but by me.

        Philippians 2:10-11
        10. That at the name of JESUS every knee shall bow, of thing in heaven, and thing in earth, and things under the earth;
        11. And that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

        !! Thess. 2: 3-4
        3. Let no man deceive you, by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling awry first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
        4. Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD, sits in the temple of GOD, showing that he is GOD

      • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

        Money has nothing to do with it.

        • Rev Larry

          yes it does remember , the lust for money not desire for it , and Jesus said"whos face(suberscription) is on it? " and they answered him Ceasers, and then Jesus said then give to Ceaser what is Ceasers and give to God what is Gods" and scripture says " all glory and honor and righteousness to God who is and was and always will be, Amen. so always remember you can not say to a judge your honor, because he is a man and not God the Father

          • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

            You're answering a question that wasn't asked.

      • lurl

        Not only that is would cut their supply of nubile girls and they would have to get a real job.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          Real job like yours..? Killing innocent and helpless human beings?

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            at least he has a job, Humpty.

          • Rev Larry

            INNOCENT? Jesus said all are guilty there is none who are innocent , that is why we ALL need Jesus as our saviour.

          • EVERMYRTLE

            AMEN!!!! If only we could all remember that and not be satisfied with out walk with HIM. We find it so much easier to watch what other people are doing and forgot to watch our own words and actions.

    • PTTA

      I wonder if this arinal has ever read the ible to any depth like myself, a common man has. Over the years. Don't think so. The Bible is very clear and truthful. But, to gain Gods wisdom, you first need to accept Jesus as your Savior, then ask the Holy Spirit to guide you and give you the Lords wisdom. here is a reason for the Book of Acts to come right aftr the four Gospels.

      • JPM

        PTTA, that's one of the problems. People want Jesus/Yeshua/ in their lives only as fire insurance. He must be their LORD and Savior. If He is their Lord salvation comes automatically. To many do not want Him as the ruler of their lives. Ihad a young girl tell me once that Sunday belonged to the Lord, but Saturday night belonged to Satan. If yoy abide in Me, I will abide in you and My word will abide in you. See John 12:46, 15:4, 15:6 and 15:7. I believe that a full 50% of those that think they are saved aren't. See the parable of the ten virgins.

        • lurl

          Parable of the ten virgins? How does that compare with the 72 virgins from that other holy book.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            It is not as virginable.

          • lurl

            Quick thinking there!

          • Rev Larry

            there is no other Holy book , because it does not even have a word for love , only duty and killing those who do not believe like they do , what I just said is what is in the quran read it also scripture says " jesus said I give you power over all of the power of the enemy, all we can do is tell them about Jesus Christ , and let the Holy Spirit do His work , in Iran thousands are coming to jesus Christ , every day and the government is furious because they cant stop God /Jesus, they teach that God cant have a son and that is correct their god allah ,which is the old moon god from ancient time it is two words. check it out

          • lurl

            How wrong can you get. For several sentences there it looked as though you were giving the perfect description of the born-again or fun-dam-mentalist xians.
            You have got to stop smoking that stuff you are using. It is too strong for you. Anyone who makes statements such as the Iranians are turning to jesus is just plain zonked out.
            And where does you version of god come from…try Apollo and the other sun gods. We often hear there is nothing new under the sun…it is just a rehash of fables, tales, myths and utter nonsense over and over again.
            You have to use something to get to the poor and uneducated fools that need to believe in your rubbish.

          • Evermyrtle

            Absolute the opposite!!!!. The 72 virgins represent the evils of this world. The heaven they are going to, will be evil as the world is, they think. What a surprise, at all of the fire they will see, unless they turn to GOD and accept JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR.The ten virgins were GOD'S just what the Bible states, virgins.

          • lurl

            Now then you have become an expert on the Holy Scriptures of Muslims.
            Happy to see you have your long nose out of the bible and its perversions.
            Wake up. The Muslims are not going to accept xianity anytime soon.

    • bighoss

      Yet one more bumfuzzled and equivocating Catholic priest dithering away with a theology of confusion and contradiction.
      "I hope nobody's in hell," he blithers, in overt contradiction to the teaching of scripture concerning hell as the destiny for unregenerated sinners. The religious community does not to be confused any more than it already is by the inane, unscriptural eructations of the pusillanimous practitioners of Papist priestcraft!

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        :) Yet for enslaved Roman Religious folks this will not filter through as evidenced in Roman DeMelon who must assume that "prince of church" Cardinal Pell public testimony of blasphemous heresy given on Australian TV is obviously a part of "vast anti Roman Catholic conspiracy of hate" where Protestant perpetrators drugged and chip implanted "the prince" and made him talk priestcraft gobbledygook…

        • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

          I guess it's much better to be FREE and totally lost, huh?

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            I guess there is no logical bone in your body…

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            There is nothing more amusing than watching theists argue with each other and then have one of them try to invoke logic.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            We actually can account for logic hypo-cretin. You can only lie about it and mutilate it as you do master of irrationality from third tier school with sub level gen. bus. ad. program.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Not really. You pretend your book of fables offers logic, which is always amusing to hear about.

          • lurl

            Jeff,
            Don't awaken desperatnut….he is now in his deep alcoholic coma and these mutterings are coming to the surface just like vomit. He can do no more than vomit lies as he knows nothing.
            If he has ever known anything his use of drugs and alcohol have rotted away his little brain.

          • Evermyrtle

            We will all come to our senses, wake up in much alarm if we are not ready to meet HIM face to face.

          • Despeville

            Lying murderous witch after junior college… with Walmart taste…

          • Dave

            So you enjoy argue with yourself jeff? Well You are athiest which is a thiest.
            Small mind that CAN NOT think bigger other than himself, so sad

          • lurl

            And you sound very constipated. Try prunes.

          • Evermyrtle

            Try THE WORD OF GOD AND THE SON JESUS CHRIST, WORKS SO MUCH BETTER!!!!

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            He is brain damaged.

          • lurl

            The two do not occur in tandem. Indeed, it is better to be FREE. There is only one life so enjoy it.

          • evermyrtle

            If you really want to be free accept THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR, IT WORKS EVERY TIME!!!!

      • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

        You're right, about yourself. "just one more bumfuzzled and equivocating (person) dithering away…" etc, etc.
        One thing you need to do is check your grammar, punctuation, and diction as well as a sloppy overuse of words beginning with the letter "p".
        Your ignorance shines through as bright as the sun.
        Sorry old man try again.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          Ad hominem, ad hominem. ad hominem… The simplicity of Roman Catholic programing.

        • bighoss

          "Diction," my man, has to do with clarity of speech. Since you have never heard me speak, it is the height of presumptuousness for you to call my diction into question. But I checked it, and I am pleased to report that it is in fine shape. As additional information, I am professionally trained in the arts of speaking. I have spoken before audiences as large as 1000+ persons, and never have I had anyone to complain about not understanding what I said.

          If you see anything wrong with the grammar and punctuation in my post, then kindly point it out. I CHALLENGE you on this point, since I do not believe you can deliver.

          As to my multiple consecutive uses of the letter "p," be advised that the device I use there is called ALLITERATION, and it does not reflect anything like the "sloppy overuse" that you ignorantly allege. It is often used by all kinds of writers and its use is in no way ungrammatical. The disgraced, and disorderly, and deposed (there I go again!) former Republican Vice President Spiro Agnew was notable for his use of such terms as "nattering nabobs of negativism".

          Your INCOMPETENCE shines through, Michael, brighter than the heart of a thermonuclear explosion! Surely the Whore of Babylon can find a better apologist than you to attempt the task of defending her against the documented raving of one of her heretical renegade priests.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Nuked him.

          • lurl

            Hoss,
            Do you believe the book of revelation? For real? If so you need to study more current literature on the subject.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            What is that "current literature"? People's magazine?

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            It is certainly not the bible.

          • evermyrtle

            If we want the truth, we go to HIS WORD, including Revelation!!! In fact that is where it is all wrapped up, the final chapter for us to understand our outlook. There are two place, in which we have chosen one in our life by what we believe and how we live, where we will dwell for all eternity.

          • lurl

            Well it is your fantasy….have a nice time.

      • Rev Larry

        Also Jesus said," call no man father for you have one Father in heaven" et tu Brutae? also ," Confess your sins to no man but to God alone ." and that is a sin that every catholic priest? does every day.

        • lurl

          Your post is an afront to the god you claim to love, adore and follow. What an evil beast you are.

          • Evermyrtle

            If only you knew, what evil really is! I hope you will change your mind and realize where you hope lies.

    • thrufaithalone

      Um, one must b e l i e v e in order to be saved. One must have faith – "without faith it is impossible to please Him"

    • CJM2

      despeville: The moderator twisted every comment made by the Cardinal, therefore, one cannot say this is a fair assessment of the original question. What the Cardinal was saying is that (1) he does not judge another as to whether or not they qualify for God's eternal home; (2) God loves everyone, including atheists and unbelievers, and these individuals have the opportunity to enter God's Kingdom; and (3) it is only those who totally turn their back to God that , in his opinion, woud not be welcomed into God's Kingdom. What you and your atheist fiend, Dawson, are attempting to do is slant everything your way so that you can stand up and say: See, I told you so. How ignorant of you. And by the way, God knows exactly what you are doing and you will have to answer to Him.

  • Bobseeks

    Anyone who claims that there are other ways to eternal life is calling Jesus a liar because Jesus plainly states in John 14:6 that He is the only way to GOD.

    • PTTA

      Bobseeks,

      Your post is exactly right and true. It is sad that people are being mislead. But Jesus and Paul predicted that.

    • daves

      How about Moses – he lived before Jesus so did he go to hell for not following Christ?

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        Moses, Abram or anyone else who truly believed before the Cross of Christ are saved exactly the same way as anyone today who is saves -SOLELY and EXCLUSIVELY thanks to RIGHTEOUSNESS of Christ. Look at this truth stated almost 3,500 years ago:

        Genesis15:6 "Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness."

    • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

      There are all kinds of ways to God. Unfortunately all of them, save one, lead right into the throne room of justice where the Final Judge sits. Don't worry, He is waiting for you.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        Is one of them through Allah as Roman whore teaches?

    • lurl

      Bobsucks,
      You can't tell people that because jesus states in john he is the only way to god.
      That makes no sense it is just the common and usual circular reasoning proffered by all of you who know nothing better.
      Probably wouldn't understand it if you were exposed to the truth.

    • lurl

      Okay so jesus is a liar….so what….there are a lot of them in your perverted 66 books of error filled material.
      Lies and xianity go hand in hand right into the non promised land.

      • Evermyrtle

        "You lie and the truth is not in you!" says HIS WORD

  • Chris

    Who wants eternal life? I cannot think of anything as stupid. It is totally impossible for there to be a heaven.

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      Everything is stupid to a stupid who is not able to rise above his stupidity.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        English is beyond the grasp of an English language butcher.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          As I said before. Here is a simple English for a simpleton that you should grasp: Beat it imbecile.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Sorry, it is too much fun watching you stumble around.

          • Evermyrtle

            Matt 22;13-14
            13. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him, hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
            14. For many shall be called, but few chosen

            These scriptures are referring to not being prepared to enter one of the final resting places of eternal life, Heaven. We will be sent to the other place. Stupid answer?? We will all meet HIM FACE TO FACE AND THAT WILL BE TOO LATE TO CHOOSE!! The darkness, is that we have been blinded to the truth forever, at that point.

          • CJM2

            That isn't exactly true, Evermyrtle. The thief on the cross next to Jesus repented at that last moment of life–and was saved. Why don't you tell the whole story instead of using partial scriptures in attempting to prove a point?

          • Chris P

            Really your computer was designed by an imbecile? Hell knows how much money I would make if I weren't.

            Why should I put up with you clowns brainwashing children?

          • Evermyrtle

            Actually you do not have to put up with us "clowns." You have the choice, not to read our comments, just as we can choose not to read yours.

    • Mike

      Willy is correct – there is eternal life for everyone – just different places. Placing your faith and trust in Jesus, and accepting his sacrifice as atonement for your sins is THE ONLY WAY to be reunited with God the Father forever after we leave this life. After sin entered the world, God the Father said that the price of sin is death, which is eternal separation from him (just not physical death). I didn't say this – God said this. Why is it impossible to be a heaven? If nothing else, why take the chance that what Jesus and God the Father said isn't true, and why not just submit to them? If it turns out they are not speaking the truth, no harm done. However, if they are, and you dismiss it in disbelief, there is quite a price to be paid.

      • Evermyrtle

        You are correct. He gives us a choose whoever we want. There is JESUS CHRIST and there is the world, which includes Satan and anyothere gods who are minor Satans.There is a place where each of us will spend eternity, GOD'S heaven of the den of Satan. In GOD'S heaven HE gives us everything that we could ever want. We will work because HIS word tells us about the mansions that we will build.We will be happy in our work But in that other dwelling place it WILL NOT BE LIKE THAT. Like I said, we choose out eternal dwelling place by who we serve during life on this earth. We will every one meet HIM face to face and he will send HIS, on to the right to HIM and HE will send Satn's people to the left to where Satan will be waiting for his own.

        • lurl

          myrtle the turtle…
          could you re-read your post and put it in common usage English so those of us who can read could understand.

          • Evermyrtle

            Still and angry, little girl, who cannot resist name calling. I'm sorry, I do not intend to upset anybody!

            What I mean is very simple. You have the right to live exactly how you want to live. GOD does not dictate. HE gives us HIS directions, to live according to what HE wants us to live. If we choose HIS WAY, we will inherit eternal life with HIM in heaven.

            We have another choice we can reject HIS WORD and live according to HIS enemy, Satan, who was cast out of heaven, having been an angel, because he tried to rule there. There is a place prepared for Satan's followers. It is called Hell! If you choose to live for him you will abide with him for all eternity.

            Of course I believe that you were being sarcastic, but that is OK. I explained just o be sure you knew the truth

          • lurl

            Myrtle the turtle:
            You still don't make sense.

    • Old colonel

      "The fool has said in his heart there is no God." Ps 14: 1

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        The bible is full of useless verses. Here is a classic.

        “Because of you I will rebuke your descendants; I will smear on your faces the dung from your festival sacrifices, and you will be carried off with it."

        • john

          This looks like a prophecy…… and it did come to pass if you look at the history of Israel. So I'd say thank you for the history lesson and what you put there for evil… God will make it for good.

        • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

          I don't know where that came from. But it isn't in the Bible.

        • Harold Clark

          Time will certainly tell if you are right or not. Pretty big gambel if you ask me.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Not really. Are you concerned about the Muslims calling you an infidel? It is the same indifference.

    • Gordon

      Spoken by someone not going there, and hoping "like hell" the other place does not exist!

      • Chris P

        Why do you say I am not going there? I know a bazillion Christians that shouldn't. I try to look after the planet.

        As to hell – Where exactly is it?

        • Jack

          Looking after the planet isnt going to get you there anymore then Mother Teresa looking after the poor. Jesus said no one comes unto the Father but through me. Hint He died on the Cross so you would not have to, but only if you accept his gift and the same thing goes for Mother Teresa or anyone else. You cant buy yourself into Heaven, cant earn your way into Heaven, the only way is accepting a free gift. So simple yet so difficult for you.

          • lurl

            You are as simple minded as your god. Try something new.

          • Evermyrtle

            anger and hatred are terrible enemies. They will destroy those who allow ti, to, if you do not get rid of it..

    • M Green

      Well, for you, anyway.

    • blackhawk

      Yea Just like our universe coming to being out of absolute NOTHING.

      • Chris P

        Really?

        • Jack

          Yes really show us something anything that can be Created from nothing. Cant be done.

      • lurl

        Are you sad that this particular universe came from a conglomeration of different organisms and from planets colliding and breaking off. This of it as calving.

    • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

      Can you be so absolutely certain? You're first remark shows unbelievable ignorance. The thing is you will live forever–somewhere.

      • Chris P

        Rubbish. I'm going to be cremated – nothing LIVING left. Duh.

        You people are so ignorant about biology.

        • Jerry M

          Sorry Chris, But a person's soul can't be cremated and lives forever. Better get with the program before it's too late and accept Jesus Christ. We are all just penciled in and our bodies can die at any time.

        • Jack

          And you are so Ignorant about the Soul.

      • lurl

        When you are dead you rascal you…you are dead and you won't be living anywhere.

    • Jerry M

      When you find out the truth, it will be too late. You have to accept Christ before you die.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        You also have to accept Allah before you die. Yawn.

      • lurl

        You do it please it does not interest me.

    • Jerry M

      Well, Don't worry yourself. You won't have to endure heaven with the way you think.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        No one actually does.

    • 32eagle

      Chris, I want you to know that in less than sixty seconds you could experience sheer panic-if you were caught in an undertow you would fight for your life-and if you felt the power of the ocean like I did-you would call out to God Almighty to make it out alive-help me get to land !!! I survived when others on different undertows drowned.How about that saying a smug engineer said about the Titanic-not even God could sink her-to say that was disrespectful and the ship was cursed.The engineer was stupid-okay.Heaven needs to be honored because it is a special reward for those that get saved by JESUS- if you want to keep living now-surely you want to live forever in paradise

  • Willy

    Everyone has eternal life. The only down side is that everyone is not going to enjoy thier location while having that eternal life. Read it and weep, it is basically in all of them (religions). Now, if you are interested in enjoying your location, there is only one way.

    • Don

      Actually, everyone does not have eternal life. Ponder over the scriptures and do not hold to heart those that seem to suggest that all have eternal life. One, just one scripture that fails to support brings a man's doctrine to light. The scriptures are not wrong. The doctrines of men are. That which you believe, I also believed. But by taking other scriptures the truth will come to light. The end result is either life or death. When this heaven and earth pass away and new heaven and earth created, where then is hell. What is the lake of fire. How has God given description to His likeness. Is He not likened to ever consuming fire. The righteous are made righteous through Christ. No man is righteous but through belief. Abraham was accounted to righteousness, not that he was righteous, but because he believed God. So, too is the righteousness of them who believe in the promise who came as Jesus Christ.
      There is wailing in heaven even now. And there is also rejoicing. The waling comes from them who have returned to the left hand of God and Jesus Christ. The rejoicing comes from them who have returned and are at the right hand of the Lamb crucified before the foundation of the world. God.

      • aceituna

        Everyperson God has created whether believer or unbeliever will have eternal existence, but what kind of existence do you want? One of bliss and love with Jesus in heaven which is called eternal life, or one who is banished from the presence of God which is called eternal death, death being no longer in the presence of God, where the devil rules and where this troublesom earth will seem like a paradise compared to the existence those will experience who do not have faith in the redemption earned for us by Jesus on the cross.

        • Duke Nelson

          More accurately, those who reject Jesus/Yeshua h'mashiach, are given eternal damnation. That is eternal, but it is not eternal life, quite specifically it is eternal death.

          • Don

            Duke, you know. Too bad others cannot see beyond the false and misleading teaching. One has the whole pie, but selects a piece or two, eats and discards the remainder.

        • Don

          I beseech you to put all scripture together before holding such a belief deep within the heart. It is not true to all scripture. The wages of sin is death. Eternal torment is not eternal suffering, but death. God is not a God who executes eternal wrath. If those condemned were condemned as so many believe, God would be in an eternal state of wrath and vengeance. Concluding the judgment and the punishment thereof, all that was will pass away. All things will be made new and all things old are to be remembered no more.
          Temporal eyes cannot see what the eyes of the spirit beholds. Temporal eyes are deceptive to the word of God and must be given over for spiritual discernment.
          In the beginning, God created many sons. A multitude that could not be counted and which only the Father knew the number of his sons. Many sons rebelled. Some repented and sought reconciliation to the Father. Yet many refused to repent. Those who would not repent would be cast down to the earth. But before the foundation of the world was laid, God, our Father, gave promise of a salvation plan with which reconciliation could be made. Because rebellion was a sin against God, a price was warranted as payment. We could neither pay the price either in spirit or in the body. It was God and God alone that would take up the body with which the price would be met by him and him alone.
          When a man enters into death, he has no advantage over the beast. Both came from the dust and both return to the dust. Man is unique above all the beasts in that within man, God has given to each a spirit. A spirit that is not created for the body, but the body created for the spirit. The spirit benefits from the salvation of the Lord, while the body returns to the dust. The spirit, which is the true person was created long before the world. And without rebellion having entered that heavenly place the creation of the world and especially the flesh of man was not necessary.
          When a righteous man dies, his true self, the spirit that preceded the body returns to God. When an unrighteous man dies, too returns to God. But the righteous man finds himself to the right of God, who is the Savior, who is the Creator and who if the Father. The unrighteous man finds himself to the left hand of the One they rejected. Such was Lazarus and the rich man. One righteous, the other unrighteous.

          • Willy

            Don, Duke, Aceituna Check out what the second death is. If death is permanent, what is the point of two of them. everlasting weeping and Knashing of teeth don't happen if your dead. I guess I could say read it and weep.

          • Don

            Willy, when death enters your dwelling that dwelling crashes to the ground. Does that mean that the occupant within is also delivered to the place the dwelling has entered. Does that occupant remain and if so, where does the occupant goes. Are you body and soul. Is not the beasts of the field not the same, having body and soul. Should the soul of man rise up and the soul of the beast go downward. What advantage does man have over the beast.
            There is within a man a daily struggle. That struggle is between the flesh and the spirit. But because the flesh is weak it all too frequently wins out. But the beast, having no spirit also has no struggle. The soul of the man and the spirit or the man are not one and the same. The soul did not precede the man in birth through water of the womb, but the spirit did precede the man. The soul was not given the promise of God before the laying down of the foundation of the world. The spirit was given that promise.
            When death comes the spirit of all men ascend back to God. There are those who go to the left, where there is wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth. And there are those who go to the right, who sing the choir's songs of rejoicing before the Lamb.
            What you say is true. Neither can happen if one is dead. But God made us all spirit first and flesh second that through the flesh salvation would be poured out for not the flesh, but the spirit. The flesh is the instrument through which salvation is fulfilled. Without the flesh, salvation could not be made to completeness.

          • Willy

            Don, If the second death is separation from God,then along with the 1/3 of the angels (spirits) that left heaven when satan did there will be the ones (human) that will be separated also. If the spirit is alive/eternal, that is the portion I believe we are talking about. I'm not talking about the flesh. It is appointed unto man once to die, (thats part of life except for a couple of extreme and rare cases that God chose to do) after that the judgement. That doesn't mean that all of your exsistence (body,mind, spirit/soul ) dies for the second death (eternal separation, which by most peoples standards is not exactly what I would call living (light sarcasm), if you get my drift). Anyway, I enjoyed the exchange.

          • Don

            Then why can you not accept that the second death is just as it is written. Death.
            You walk through a wheat field and pluck but a few grains when you have the whole field before you.
            Death is death. The end, the finality. The torment, the suffering is the knowledge of one's end to come. The wages of sin is death. Not life.
            God is not eternally wrathful nor eternally vengeful. The wrath and the vengeance are poured out and upon those judged accordingly. Are there different degrees of hell determined the amount of one's sins. That one man's sin is greater than another. Where is the liar and where is the murderer. Do each share a different place in hell, or do both share in the same.

          • Don

            Consider Lazarus and the rich man. Lazarus went to the bosom of Abraham, while the rich man did not. If death delivers the flesh to the dust, then both are dead. But they are not dead, merely the body. Does then the spirit of Lazarus ascend upward and the spirit of the rich man ascend downward. The rich man desired that Lazarus dip his fingers into the water and touch it to his lips. Does this mean that the rich man is yet alive in the body. If the body is indeed dead, then this cannot be water as one might assume. If it is not the water required of the body, then the water must be for the spirit. The spirit neither hungers nor does it thirst. It does not know hot nor cold. It is not restricted to the things of the physical world as was the body.
            What the rich man desired in the spirit was not that which was necessary to the body. It was a water unlike any water. Who is the fountain from which the living water flows. Simply, the rich man desired in spirit what he did not seek while in the body. He had no concern for it as the desire was for temporal things and the accumulation of money. Money was his of his seeking. But now death delivered him over to await the judgment. And it was too late that the living water should be given him in spirit when it was through the flesh that that water was given.

          • Willy

            All I can say is read Revelations 20:14 and 21:8, if you want a little more clarity use Strong's Exhaustive concordance and Youngs anylitical concordance. It wont get any plainer than that. I fail to see how being totally dead would make any of that a punishment.

  • Suzanne Engle

    Roman Catholicism is a pagan faith as their doctrine is not scriptural. The Bible says that salvation is by faith whereas Romanism teaches that salvation is by works. That contradicts what Christ said……Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life and no man comes unto the Father except through me"

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      Indeed, about Roman religion:

      "…She is able to change her colour and her appearance and her form; she is, I say, all things to all men everywhere, she is everything.

      You remember that the apostle has told us that it is one of the characteristics of the devil himself that he can transform himself into an angel of light. So can this Church. There is no limit, there is no end to the various "guises" in which she can appear. Here in this country she appears as highly intellectual and encourages her people to read the Bible; in other countries she prohibits their doing so, and is not only not intellectual but deliberately encouraging to superstition. Here she seems to be tolerant, ready to listen and to argue and to concede and to be friendly; in other backward countries she is utterly intolerant, vicious and vile in her persecuting zeal – but still the same body, the same institution, the same people. That is my evidence for saying that this is surely the devil's masterpiece.

      Here is a great body, an institution, that has from time to time throughout the centuries – and still is doing this very thing – manifested the wiles of the devil in all its subtlety and deceitfulness, "with all deceivableness of unrighteousness" as the Scripture puts it. All this is clearly prophesied in the Scriptures. You will find it in the second chapter of Paul's Second Epistle to the Thessalonians. It is not the only explanation of that passage; but it is one of them. It may be that there you have this system "raised", as it were, to nth power, but that is what the system has already been doing. You have it depicted also in the second beast in the thirteenth chapter of the book of Revelation; and I suggest that it is also in the seventeenth chapter of Revelation in the picture of "the great whore" sitting on those seven hills, as Rome does and always has done. All this has shown itself in history. It did so in this way. Here is something that came in and at one time monopolized virtually the whole of the Christian Church. It came in slowly, subtly, and worked its way in and eventually became almost universal in its control…"

      ~ Dr.Martyn Lloyd-Jones

      Source and more: http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=lloy…

      • daves

        And "she" thinks that people shouldn't use birth control.

        • Eric

          And you think they should, so what of it? Don't you have any other gears in your comment generating machine?

          • Evermyrtle

            I believe the kind of birth control that is what is in question like " assination in the womb." The perfect on without doing don't do what is to be done to get a baby started, or wait until it is safe to do it..

        • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

          In your case, perhaps it should have been used.

      • Robert De Leon

        There you are again, spreading lies everywhere.
        I told you once and I will tell you again: You are full of hate and hate will go back to you. Anyway I'll keep praying for you.
        Robert.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          I don''t need your idolatrous prayers or a unrepentant idolater you are… You have been taking cues from homosexuals with your "hate, hate, hate I see hate everywhere" crude and emotional bludgeon… How about you DEAL WITH facts deceiver? That you will never do and you know cannot possibly do… Here they are again staring and speaking into your flabbergasted face:

          (Cardinal) Well, I know from the Christian point of view, God loves everybody. But every genuine motion towards the truth is a motion towards God. And when an atheist dies, like everybody else, they'll be judged on the extent to which they have moved towards goodness and truth and beauty. But in the Christian view, God loves everyone except those who turn their back on him through evil acts.
          (Moderator): Oh, so atheism – not an evil act.
          (Cardinal): No, not a – well, no I don't – in most cases its not.
          …
          (Moderator): Is it possible for an atheist to go to heaven?
          (Cardinal): Well, it's not my business.
          (Moderator): No, but well, you're the only authority we have here.
          (Cardinal): I would say 'certainly, certainly!'

          Around 49 minutes in, the Cardinal shares his views on hell and salvation from it:
          (Moderator) Where do you draw the line? Do unbelievers go to hell?
          (Cardinal) No, no, no. The only people – Well, (1) I hope nobody's in hell. We Catholics generally believe that there is a hell. I hope nobody is there. I certainly believe in a place of purification. I think it will be like getting up in the morning and you throw the curtains back and the light is just too much. God's light would be too much for us. But I believe on behalf of the innocent victims in history, that the scales of justice should work out and if they don't, life is radically unjust: the law of the jungle prevails.

          VIDEO: http://youtu.be/tD1QHO_AVZA

          So pagans are "saved" and people come from monkeys? Are you following what your "prince of church" says? And if not what makes you know better than your "prince of church" DeMelon? Can you deal with facts? No, you cannot so keep on swinging…

          • Robert De Leon

            And yet I'll be praying to our Dear Lord Jesus Christ for you.
            Robert.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Your "Dear Lord Jesus" is different than Biblicaly presented Lord of Glory Jesus Christ. This One does not sit on a lap of mama mary and does not her errands that she sets before Him.
            Deal with facts Robert. Deal with facts.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            "…What, then, are we looking at? We are looking at a system; and I would not hesitate to assert that this system, Known as Roman Catholicism, is the devil's greatest masterpiece! It is such a departure from the Christian faith and the New Testament teaching, that I would not hesitate with the Reformers of the sixteenth century to describe it as "apostasy"…"

            ~ Dr.Martyn Lloyd-Jones

            Source and more: http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=lloy…

          • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

            You're good a quoting everyone else, but what do you think?

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Here is what I think. There is a Gospel of Salvation and pseudo gospel of damnation. Rome has the second one.

          • Duke Nelson

            The 1st Century churchs are NOTHING like your catholic church on 7 hills, that grand whore of babylon. The deceptions of RC are so vast, so encompassing, that it'd take volumes to illuminate all your grand demonic mysteries.

            There's an incredible divine justice in that the bishop's mitre resembles a cockroaches posterior.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          'You are full of hate and hate will go back to you"

          DeMelon,

          You better watch out for what come to you for your pagan utterances and defense of pagan, demonic religion of Rome and attacking the Gospel and its people:

          "For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power."

          ~ 2 Thessalonians 1:6-9

    • John

      Amen. and Amen.

      • Bobseeks

        True – the roman heretics are pagan idol worshippers.

        • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

          Where do you get that nonsense from? Or are you just making it up as you go along?

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Huh, have you bothered to read the posts here, the quotes or even ventured out to spend 60 minutes watching two pagans arguing on Australian TV with one of them posing as a Christian? Or all of that means a priori for you because you do not like it?

    • Robert De Leon

      Suzanne:
      I have a question for you. Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ founded a pagan faith?. He founded His Religion upon St. Peter, for Peter is the Rock.
      You comment, as any other "deformer" comment supports my belief: Protestant believers reduced the Bible to a 10 pages booklet.
      Do not hesitate to read in the Bible this (the Catholic Faith is Biblical):
      St. Matthew, 25:31-46
      St. James, 2:14-26
      Revelation, 22:12

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        Christ founded TRUE FAITH as given from above to His people by His Father according to His will. This is precisely what happened to Peter and every single believer ever. Christ did not found a pagan religion that seeks unity with false religions of this world like with Islam for example as your own catechism teaches in point 841 nor did He found a universalistic, apostate heretical man made whoring religion teaching that pagans are "saved" or that people come from monkeys as your "church" teaches as well as verbalized and presented by Roman Catholic Cardinal Pell in this video: http://youtu.be/tD1QHO_AVZA

      • JPM

        Suzanne, I hate to burst your bubble, Jesus is the "Rock" not Peter. In the greek the word rock refering to Peter means pebble. I believe that anyone who has accepted Jesus as his/her LORD and Savior is saved regardless of what banner/denomination they are flying under. The important thing is LORD and Savior acceptance.

      • Bobseeks

        Robert: Every time you post your lies and blasphemies you bring more of GOD's wrath down on yourself, fool.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          Indeed and notice that he never ever deals with facts, whether in writing, or audio and video. NEVER. The only thing he does and can do is to quote mindlessly some "cheat sheet" with bogus, context ignorant Bible references he copied from Catholic Answers or some other Roman propaganda site and asserts "hate" to everyone who does not agrees with his whoring religion of Rome. A typical cultist behavior.

          • Robert De Leon

            "A donkey speaking abnout ears". Where do you take your "deformer" comments?. From books, 'videos", comments from other "deformers" and when you use Biblical references you only do it partially and therefore, again, you have reduced the Bible to a 10 pages booklet. Am I so repetitive? So do you.
            C'mon! Be serious.
            Robert.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            I took them STRAIGHT FROM YOUR ROMAN CATHOLIC SOURCES deceiver… Like from your Roman Catholic Catechism or your councils or your papal bulls etc. etc. Is presented video with your Roman Catholic "prince of the church" Cardinal Pell speaking abominable lies and heresies "deformers" produced? Was he drunk? Was he hypnotized? Was he implanted with mind controlling chip? No he was speaking openly what your whore of a church is teaching and brainwashing people with. Your brain is washed and indoctrinated and your heart continually abides in evil lies of men that is why one more time you will AVOID and run from this blasphemy coming straight from your Roman Catechism and nowhere else:

            "The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

            Catechism of RC
            Source: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

            Each time you pray but the OFFICIAL and INFALLIBLE teaching of your Roman Church you pray to one and the same "god" Muslims have and adore with you and each time you do that you condemn yourself even more. So do yourself a favor and do not "pray for anyone" particularly not for me for I do not want to have anything to do with your self inflicted condemnation coming to you.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            "Where do you take your "deformer" comments?."
            Roman DeMelon

            '"The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

            Catechism of RC point 841
            Source: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

            Is Vatican good enough for you Roman DeMelon?

          • Roberto

            Don't mind Despeville,he's just a hatefull vindictive person who calls himself a Christian…Obama calls himself a Christian too…Pray for them,
            God Bless

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Another vain rhetoric amateur… Have you been talking classes in "hate, hate, hate" bludgeon swinging from homosexuals? You must have, for there is a carbon copy similarity. How about you deal with FACTS?
            YES, this very incontinent facts about your religion in print, in audio and in video. And who are you going to pray to? Allah? for that is another name of your "god" per teaching of your Roman Church… Another thing you do not like… THE FACT:

            '"The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

            Catechism of RC point 841
            Source: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

            Will you be able to raise above emotional bludgeon swinging Olympics? I think not. See you at the next protest of homosexuals where you will be taking notes.

      • john

        Peter (Petros) is the pebble….. Jesus (Petra) is the Rock.

      • aceituna

        The rock referred to in this passage is Peter's confession, not Peter himself. Anyone who makes and believes what he is saying in this confession is saved.

      • Duke Nelson

        There are problems with the Roman Catholic position. First of all, when we look at the Greek of Matthew 16:18 we see something that is not obvious in the English. "…you are Peter (πέτρος, petros) and upon this rock (πέτρα, petra) I will build My church…" In Greek nouns have gender. It is similar to the English words actor and actress. The first is masculine and the second is feminine. Likewise, the Greek word "petros" is masculine; "petra" is feminine. Peter, the man, is appropriately referred to as Petros. But Jesus said that the rock he would build his church on was not the masculine "petros" but the feminine "petra."

    • Evermyrtle

      I can say nothing on the Catholic Church, because all I know about i,t is what people are saying. I have never been to one nor I haveI done any study on it .It would be unfair for me to pass any opinion.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        Then know something and watch the video and that something will come from the "prince of Roman Catholic Church" for that is the title of a Cardinal:

        VIDEO: http://youtu.be/tD1QHO_AVZA

        • Evermyrtle

          Actually since I do not think there would be any Christin prophet in that, I will pass. If I could assist someone in believing correctly I would be happy to look and listen but I do not know any Catholics and if I am going to do that just to be able to know, I have enough sin in my life and all around to worry about other peoples sins.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Then how are you going to witness to a Roman Catholic should that opportunity be granted to you???
            Are you going to say: "I do not know nothing about your religion but let me tell you…"?
            Hmmm. Your sin or my sin is non-quintessential for what is objectively true and what is not.

          • Evermyrtle

            I would not question, unduly nor would I criticize. I would tell them the truth as the scripture states it and where in the Bible it can be found. I would remember it is better to allow them a little self esteem, because that is part of the battle of winning of someone to whatever your are presenting. If I don't do that I can, very well drive them further away from the LORD. I have no desire to make enemies for JESUS but friends. Even if I were 100% knowledgable about GOD'S plans, I would not play that card. I could give them 100% advice where the best place to find the truth., which is in GOD'S WORD. I would tell them that we cannot pick and chose what part of HIS WORD to believe, but we must obey it all. You see, I am a sinner, too. I would make them think, that I was putting myself above them, because, you see I am a sinner, my self and it is even possible that I may have some ideas that were not 100%, too.

            Do I pass muster??

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            " it is better to allow them a little self esteem, because that is part of the battle of winning of someone to whatever your are presenting."

            You do not win any battles on your own, ever. Now compare your politically correct approach with that of Jesus… I think he would have to be discounted by you as "too hard of self esteem of Pharisees"…

            "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?"
            ~ Matthew 23:33

          • Evermyrtle

            You have so much wisdom and so much righteousness I would think that you would learned that you have to get their get their attention , trust and interest before you can witness to them. If you show them that you put your self far above them, how do you think they will even listen to what you say, to say nothing about regarding it as the truth. Drown all of their self esteem and you have lost them. You sneer about their self esteem, look at yourself and gauge your own self esteem. I am thinking, that you are thinking, pretty highly of your self. I could be wrong and do hope that I am. I think that you I think of yourself as a righteous Christian. I think of myself as a repentant sinner and I have to repent everyday, but I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST WITH ALL OF MY HEART, THAT HE IS THE SON OF GOD WHO DIED FOR THESE SINS.

          • Despeville

            Sorry, but I am a sinner in daily need of grace and NONE is righteous but Christ alone. You are wrong and notice how you avoided Scriptural proof that debunks esteem massage for complete fools and such were false religious and such are atheists also false religion.

          • Evermyrtle

            To begin with, I would strive not to turn them away with the first words which came out of my mouth.

    • http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.

      Boy are you wrong. The Church teaches that salvation is by faith not works. I don't have any idea where you got so screwed up on this one.

    • lurl

      What a bunch on nonsense. Which jesus made such an ego centric comment?
      So you too are a believer in the three headed snake god. Enjoy!

    • CJM2

      Read your history of religions, Suzanne, and you will find that today's religions are all the children of catholicism. The splintering began with Luther, followed by the Episcopalians, on and on and on. Furthermore, you read the very same scriptures in your Bible as the Catholic does from theirs; you also celebrate all those holidays that the Catholics do unless you are a group that does not honor traditions. As for those holidays, they are gleaned from the Pagan religious beliefs. So who are you to mock another? Why do you deny your relgigous heritage? And don't castigate me for what happens to be historical FACTS!

  • aldotoo

    Those so called pastors who think anyone who does not understand the gospel can be saved are blind leaders of the blind.
    Obviously those before the death of Christ had to believe and obey the first covenant or the teaching of John the Baptist.
    Psa. 49 12* Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish.
    13* This their way is their folly: yet their posterity approve their sayings.
    For those who think they go to heaven— Joh 3:13* And no man hath ascended up to heaven"

    • GUEST

      You need to do a little more study instead of basing your eternal life on a verse that you took out of context.

      • aldotoo

        I didn't mention eternal life. None of those verses is taken out of context.

    • Don

      Yes, no man hath ascended up to heaven. For no man has yet been given to a glorified body, except Christ, who is the first of the resurrection. But if the body goes back to the dust, where does the man go. Does he go back to dust until the resurrection, to remain in an unconscious state, knowing nothing. Is this true to the scriptures. Nay.
      Man is more than flesh and blood. The inner man, the spirit of the man preceded the man before the world. The promise was not given to the man of flesh, but the man of spirit. We were made sons first in spirit and after rebellion, made flesh that God's promise be made fulfilled. Spirit cannot pay the price for rebellion, which is sin against God. But the Spirit had to become flesh to make full the payment of the spirit, who were first God's spiritual sons. The flesh is nothing and in the end is given over to death. But the spirit is that which reaps the reward of God's salvation, made possible only by God, through God as the Son of God and Son of man, Jesus Christ.
      You surely will not remain upon this world when the shadow of death has spread its wings across the body. You surely will rise up and ascend back to where you were until God set you in the establishment of the house, the dwelling through which you would receive the reward of His work on the cross. Yes, my friend, you will rise up from that body as all shall when the end of flesh has come as a thief. Whether you go the left or to the right of the Father and Savior is the choice of each. Rest assured that as Abraham, Issac and Jacob are alive, even after death, you, too will remain alive even when you have entered into the place you call hell.

      • aldotoo

        I've never seen so much non-biblical jargon for a long time.
        We die eventually and are put in the grave until the resurrection at Christ's "coming" again to earth 1 Cor. 15:23. Then the faithful rule with Christ on earth for 1000 years until death is no more.
        I did not mention the word hell. It is just the grave in case you were wondering.
        Heb. 11 tells us the faithful dead like Abraham are not alive
        "39* And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
        40* God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect."

        • Don

          You are missing other scripture to give that summation.
          When does those Christ spoke of the lambs to the right and goats to the left take up their place.
          Is God the God of the dead and and of the living.
          The recipient of salvation through Christ, is it the body or the spirit. Does man not possess within him a spirit. Is it proper to say that that spirit is the Spirit of God, or the Holy Spirit.
          Abraham is dead according to what you say. But the addition of scripture does not give support to that. Quite frankly, Abraham is alive. Abraham has returned to God in the manner which God gave him a body. Without the body can be no fulfillment of the promise of salvation. But the body does not receive the fulfillment. What was sent to the body by God is the recipient of that promise. We are not merely body and soul. Both man and beast ascend to the dust of the earth. Both man and beast have body and soul. The soul is not the spirit, but of the body. The beast lacking spirit cannot receive salvation. But the spirit of the man was before the man and before the world.
          Those who belong to Christ will reign and rule with him during the period you have spoken. But they are not in the body that is corruptible.
          The dead in Christ rise first and they who are alive will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. What then does it mean the dead rise first. Should we consider they rise upward from the grave, or consider something altogether different. Consider that the dead give up the spirit. The spirit rises upward, returning to God. Those who have died and given up the spirit return with Christ and those living shed the corruptible body and take the incorruptible body, the resurrected body. For as Christ rose from the tomb in the resurrected body, so shall those who are dead and living.

  • http://www.vintagepostcardsecrets.com/ James Hanratty

    Like Jimmy Swaggart once truthfully said "Catholic priest are leading people to hell by the millions"

    • Evermyrtle

      It always astounds me how much easier it is to see other peoples sins than our own. For it to work, properly we must proclaim our our sins. and repent of them. After that we can help other people to learn and get closer tot he LORD

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Was that before, during or after he was with that prostitute?

    • lurl

      And where did Swaggart lead his people…to the nearest whore house? Yes indeed and his cousin played Great Balls of Fire all the way there (Jerry Lee Lewis)

  • LAG

    If you don't even believe in eternal life, what are you doing commenting on the article??… What are you even doing on this site?? Point being, you are looking for something.

    • Bobseeks

      They are trying to convert us to their atheistic way of "thinking" with their empty, lying, witless rants.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        It would be nice to see you actually think about a topic for once, bobbiesocks.

    • lurl

      Anyone can comment on anything….FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Just looking for the nuts that believe in all the fairy tales, myths and lies.

  • Old colonel

    The true point that is being missed is that people don't want to face the fact that people do choose to reject God and therefore will spend eternity in hell. Ministers who do this will soft sell the truth. God is all-loving therefore He must also be the fair Judge. You commit the crime (sin) and face death, you stand before the Almighty Judge and He tells you that He has paid your penalty of death. He asks you if you will accept the gift. You say NO. Being the fair Judge that He is, you condemn your self to hell. I didn't make it up, read it for yourself. "Romans 3:23, For all have sinned…" Romans 6:23" For the wages of sin is death.." Romans 10:9 "If you confess with your mouth, and believe in your heart…..thou shall be saved."

    • Laur

      And be baptized into the body of Christ, the church. Buried with Him in baptism you arise in the newness of life. Romans 6:3. The only way we can start a new life in Christ. You can't just take Him into your heart. Why do people try to leave baptism out???? Galatians 3:27-28 I Cor. 12:12-14 I Peter 3:20-21 Acts 19:5 Acts 22:18

      • Don

        The lack of one's baptism does not remove the salvation of God. If that be not true then a man who comes to Christ, yet dies before water baptism brings salvation into question. The baptism is an outward sign. Repentance is the meaning of that sign. Which is the greater. Water baptism or Spirit baptism.

        • bighoss

          Nowhere does scripture define or portray baptism as solely an "outward sign." Read Romans 6:1-10.

          • Don

            Is it the baptism of water, or baptism of the Spirit.
            What does it mean to be born again. To be born of spirit and water. Should we put the word baptism to this. Or is all flesh born of water and all flesh born of spirit. Does this apply to all men, who have been born. All flesh has indeed been born of water, but not all flesh has been born of spirit. Has there been flesh born that cannot receive the promise of God.

          • bighoss

            Any contention that the baptism that is described in Romans 6 is anything other than water baptism flies in the face of Biblical scholarship going back many centuries and coming up to the present. The notion that it is "spirit baptism" is a dishonest device invented to try to evade the very powerful teaching of the chapter on the design and essentiality of water baptism.

    • Jerry M

      Ministers who do this will soft sell the truth. I agree with you but…

      “Truth can only be stated one way
      Lies can be stated in a millions or more ways”
      – Jerry Morgan

  • Pastor Jailal

    Everybody has the right to an opinion about everything. But the right to have an opinion does not make the opinion Right! Right? When it comes to theological matters the authority is the Holy Bible. If anyone chooses not to believe the Bible then he/she has become his/her own authority. I believe the Bible and the Bible is very clear that salvation is a giift of God to those who receive Yeshua (Jesus) as Savior. How will God judge the atheists and the people of other religions? We will discover that at the judgment. It is therefore pointless to debate it. For all who hear the Gospel this is your chance to receive the gift of eternal salvation. If you reject Yeshua you cannot be saved. If you never heard the Gospel then the LORD GOD will decide how He judges. For now it is simple: Believe the Bible; Receive Yeshua; salvation is guaranteed! Amen!

    • Laur

      Buried with Him in baptism you arise in the newness of life…………………………

  • Kevin Miller

    JESUS is the Only WAY to Salvation and Eternal Life and True Christianity is the only place to Truly find HIM!
    If these men are Truly Pastors,then they should already KNOW this.

    • lurl

      You sound surprised Kevie.

  • Israel

    Christianity has to be defined, and it's believing in Christ (Jesus) God the Father and the Holy Spirit. There is several sects considered by many as "Christianity", Christianity is not the way to salvation, Jesus is. But as many as receive Him, to them gave He power to become sons of God, even to them that believe on his name John 1:12. It is by excepting Him as your personal Savior and by doing that you become a son of God…By adoption.

  • Billy Camota

    Only Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. No one can go to the Father except through Him. Those who do not believe and those who are not sure that this word of God are NOT CHRISTIANS, period…no discussion.

  • Eileen S. # 2

    I was brought up catholic. No capitol c there. I still believe that my family, back home in New England, believe that they will go to Heaven because they are catholic. Not even because they are good catholics…but like the Faricese and Sadusese and Sanhedren of the days when Christ walked, they will go to Heaven because they are not so bad. (I am not going to look up the correct spelling of these Sects because you can't spell check here and I have to get ready for work….sorry!) You have to ask then…how bad do you have to be? Christ considers a lie to be the same as murder. If that's the case we are all lying murderers. How good do we have to be??? That one really get's me. No one can answer that one for me. I know that Christ cleans me daily because I am always talking to Him. I think of him constantly and you would think that that would be crazy but it is such a peaceful time…He relaxes me…He keeps me High and lifted up too. For those who don't have a personal relationship with Christ I feel sorry for them because when you really search for Him…He reveals Himself. He even said that if you search for Him with all of your Heart, Soul and Mind you WILL find Him. I know the truth and can go to my grave in peace. You either believe the Bible or not. Christ said, " I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except by me." If you can find even one lie in the Bible then throw it out. I am still trying to find one. God Bless you all who are searching for the truth. I always loved God as a child. My family went through hell for awhile and I dumped Him. I found Him again in my early 30's and I will never leave again. Truth will never change. You can't hide it or cover it or wish it away. When you read the very last words of the Bible in the Book of Revelation, it specifically say's, anyone who adds to this Book will be added the plagues that are written in this Book. Anyone who takes away from this book will be taken out of the Book of Life. We all have to serve someone on this earth even if you are the manager or owner. Gee…especially then. I have to ask as I have before, if you don't want to get to know Christ and that means learning about Him through His Book the Bible…then why would you ever want to be with Him in Heaven? Please …at least do what I did. I was wasted that night…I had been sober for three years and lost my job that day. I had always swore at this God and hated Him. I said to Him that I really tried to do the right thing and still got canned because of that lying filthy bleep etc…etc… that evening will go to my grave with me. I asked Him what He wanted with me because my mind was so rippin mad and then……all Heaven broke loose. I will never be the same ever again. God is real but I think sometimes you have to be on your knees to find Him. I pray the same for all of you. ALSO…
    HEY CHRIS…IF YOUR ON THIS SITE…YOU ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH LIKE WHAT THE REST OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED. YOU, MY DEAR ARE IN MY PRAYERS AS I SIGN OFF. God Bless you all. Love, Eileen

    • Dennis Helton

      The unrighteous (self-righteous) shall not inherit eternal life. Jesus plainly told the unsaved Jewish Pharisee leader of the Sanhedrin, Nicodemus, that "Ye (all) must be born again." (John 3:3, 5, 7; I Peter 1:23). Any Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Anglican, Pentecostal, Lutheran, et al, that has not experience the new birth of the Holy Spirit will not go to Heaven when they die. Good works outweighing bad works will not do it; baptism will not do it; communion will not do it; church membership and catechism will not do it. Only the righteousness of Christ imputed to sinners will do it. There is a way that seemeth right unto a man but the end thereof are the ways of death.

  • Sama

    Narrow is the road….

    All have eternal life…one place or the other.

    There are heretics in ALL denominations. Look to your heart and the Holy Spirit to guide you in Jesus' WAY.

    Hate spreading will assure only one destination, maybe not the one wanted.

    • efred

      Yes, this is true. Ironically, Michael Landon's "Highway to Heaven", was incorrect; in fact, the rock group AC/DC was spot-on with their hit 70's song, "Highway to Hell". Incidentally, Michael Landon, I believe, was a Mormon, which is not of the Christian Faith, in spite of having His name in their title (I believe it was a marketing ploy; a feeble attempt to make them seem more Christian).

      It is sad that those who deny The Christ are destined to Hell, but the only thing we can do is pray for them, and exhort them to repent. This is much better than the prostelitizing of the number one Antichrist religion, Islam, who demands that you repent, or be killed or enslaved.

      • Evermyrtle

        Yes, and these so called shows can doo more harem than good because they lead people astray, instead to JESUS.

  • msjallen

    What I would like to know is where do those who believe there is another way to eternal life with Jesus Christ is found and proven? If there is another, why did Jesus Christ have to come and die on the cross? Is there anyone else who has risen from the dead so we could have eternal life? God is love but He is also justice and we need His rightousness to have a relationship with Him through Jesus Christ.
    2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance (change of mind towards Christ).
    Romans 5:8 -But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died (as a substitute) for us.
    Romans 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood (His work on the cross), we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

    • Evermyrtle

      It seems to me, they are false prophets. The blind cannot lead the blind!! After meeting JESUS face to face, they will see perfectly!

    • lurl

      Dont fret no one came here to same or do anything else for you. Take responsibility for you own life and actions.

      • Despeville

        Too bad you do not…

  • Judith

    Everybody will have eternal life, the question should be where will you spend yours? Christ followers will spend it in Heaven with Jesus. Non Christ followers will spend it in the Lake of Fire. Jesus said it, I believe it, that settles it.

    • sbc

      Satan is the one who said man would NOT die. (Read the Genesis story.) God said he WOULD die. Who do you choose to believe?

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        Neither. There is no reason to believe truth comes from fables.

        • Jerry M

          If you think the Holy Bible is a book of fables, you will not have much fun standing before God in judgment.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Since it will not occur, it is not much of a concern.

      • Evermyrtle

        The body will perish, the soul will live forever. Only you body goes to the grave.

      • Jerry M

        I believe Satan is referring to the soul not dying and God is referring to the physical body.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          Satan is a myth.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            You have gotten his script down perfectly.

  • Gordon

    I am wondering if Jeff and Chris are on the Zionica payroll to stir the pot and create controversy here?! They seem to be the resident trouble makers.

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Yes, the Christians who run this site want to pay Atheists to stir the pot. lol.

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      No, there are resident imbeciles or as I like to call them serial hypo-cretins.

      • daves

        There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          And there are many more things that clueless religious folks do not understand and misrepresent like this passage that you did not even bother to put in quotation marks nor reference properly. Look up that Psalm 14:1

        • Bobseeks

          These are all things that you embrace as a lieberal daves.

        • msjallen

          Proverbs 6:16-20 There are six things which the LORD hates,
          Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
          17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
          And hands that shed innocent blood,
          18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
          Feet that run rapidly to evil,
          19 A false witness who utters lies,
          And one who spreads strife among brothers.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Dixon is not "brother" as defined in verse 19… He is a goat and an active enemy of the Gospel as we see for now.

          • msjallen

            I wasn't even thinking of Jeff when I gave the scripture that daves gave without the address. Stop jumping to wrong conclusions. BTW, Psalm 14:1 is…
            The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.”
            They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds;
            There is no one who does good.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            I did not jumped to anything. I just followed the thread. And indeed to deny God is to be a total and utterly corrupted fool as Psalm 14:1 and many other places in the Word do teach.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            I am extremely thankful you do not consider me a brother, Humpty.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            That would be impossible, at least for how Schizoid.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            "now" :)

    • M Green

      I thoroughly enjoy Jeff's responses, while Chris is just way too emotional and rarely makes any sort of coherent comment. daves is entertaining, as well. But seriously, why pretend there aren't people out there like them? I'm glad they're here. I use them in an attempt to learn to temper my tongue and sharpen my mind on issues. And who knows? While they're here either to cause trouble or hope to spread their brand of truth, maybe the truth will eventually rub off on them? You never know.

    • Evermyrtle

      You do have a point. If so, they are well earning their pay.!!! They too will come " face to fAce with MY SAVIOR!"

      • CJM2

        So Christ belongs to you only and you have the final say as to whether or not He will forgive or provide salvation to another? My, rather bold of you evermyrtle!!!

    • Don

      I don't get involved in these discussions very often. But I must ask. Why do people keep responding to those who refuse to believe. Even the Disciples, when entering a town and they were rejected, stomped the dust from their sandals and went their way. God will work on them that are hardhearted and troublesome. And if we know the scriptures, God will do the work just as God has in others. If they belong to God, God will not lose them. It does no one any good to let anger rule and words to flow.

      • CJM2

        It's called ethnocentric thinking Don—if a person doesn't agree with their point of view, it's attack time and a means used in order to force the other into agreeing with them. Resistance to their point of view is the over-used charges of blasphemy and heretic because some seem to believe they are the only ones with the keys to God's Kingdom. What they fail to recognize is the fact that they are judging another, which is against Christ's teaching: "Judge not lest ye be judged."

    • Paul

      Nah. They seem real enough. And worthwhile to debate as well. Who knows, but they may eventually unstop their ears, open their eyes, and find the God they seem to want to continue to say doesn't exist.

  • bigDhog

    I feel that the level of education a person achieves does have an effect on how he believes. I was raised and baptized as a 10 year old and lived by the Word until I got to college. Once I got to college and was itnroduced to moderate or liberal thought I began to question more. Many professors will tell you that there is a logical, scientific explanation for many of the miracles in the Bible and creation itself.

    As I got older I asked myself why I felt a hole in my life and what could I do to fix it. I went to Church for the first time in over 10 years and lo and behold I found out what I was missing and how to keep having the feeling of being complete. My life, although not bad, improved dramatically! Better paying job, married a good Christian woman and raising two beautiful little girls in the church. Any time I start to feel overwhelmed I know I can take it to the Lord and will feel better after quiet time with Him.

    • Eileen S. # 2

      Boy Big Dhog….you hit it right on the head! This is a story I hear all the time. God be with you and yours always!
      Blessed be the name of the Lord!
      Eileen

  • http://twitter.com/lambsev11 @lambsev11

    Proverbs 10:19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.

  • Jackie

    Mathew Chapter 10 verse 32-33 says
    King James Version (KJV)
    32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
    33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
    Luke 24:47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

  • Jackie Barnes

    Philippians 3:17-21

    King James Version (KJV)

    17Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

    18(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

    19Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

    20For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

    21Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

  • Jackie Barnes

    John 3:16

    King James Version (KJV)

    16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    • Evermyrtle

      THE MOST BEAUTIFUL VERSE IN THIS WORD, OR EVER WRITTEN AND HE DIED TO PROVE IT!!!

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        This is also most rampantly abused and misrepresented verse in the land of leavenjellyclaism and beyond…
        There is actual no "WHO SO EVER" as leavenjellycals love to pronounce in Greek text. There is something ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. That is only "everyone who BELIEVES" ~ "πας ο πιστευων" … The eternal life is QUALIFIED by that faith that must come from above.

        • Evermyrtle

          Did you say you were a Christian?

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Sorry, I forgot to apply for the certificate with you. Send info about test and fees.

          • Evermyrtle

            That is the Christian answer? You be the judge, but I do not know what to do with it.????????????? I wish I had a clue!!!!! I would certainly do all I could to help you!!1

          • Despeville

            Read your initial assertion again…

  • Deputy Duffy

    Actually, the soul we are born with is as mortal as that of any other "nephish" or living being and WILL die.
    There is only ONE way to receive the gift of an eternal spirit and although the limited "gospel" taught in most "churches" is a beginning to that path, it is just that…a beginning.
    You must be born again. That is NOT the "born again" idea taught and mistakenly claimed by so many. That's a pleasant idea, but is part of the deception Christ spoke of.
    The road to spiritual eternal life is NOT that easy ride people express when they profess to be "born again".
    The true road is difficult, filled with learning, Devine understanding, and fraught with danger. (spiritual).
    Unfortunately few will experience this the first time around.
    Christ is not running around trying to "save" everyone right now. You have to simply look around to see that if this were so, He would be failing miserably.
    Those who have had the blessing of being truly called and who are able to overcome Satan and his deception will join with Christ as His Bride, becoming kings and priests, will be the teachers of those who had not yet been called, AFTER the Gospel of Christ has been fulfilled.
    In answer to the original question, Yes. There is only one way to "eternal life".

    • Wilbert Jennings

      If our soul is mortal how then are we a spirit with God until judgement then assigned a new body? Notice in the resurrection of Jesus he was unrecognized in his new body and it wasn't until he spoke and showed witnes of his wounds that even Thomas accepted him. WE are told a new body and a new Earth would be provided for us and if it were not so JESUS would not have said so.Our soul will not die it is who we are as idenities and it will last for an eternity in Heaven or Hell.

    • Don

      Do man and beast share in the same death. Does man have an advantage over the beast in death. Does not man and beast have flesh and soul. Both man and beast die and both body and soul ascends to the ground, which is hell. Both were taken from the ground and both return to the ground. What differs with man is not the soul, but the spirit within him. Given by God to the flesh forming in the womb. This flesh gives host to the spirit, which preceded the man who comes forth from the womb and continues after the flesh has come to its end.
      No man can ascend to heaven, yet the spirit of the man does ascend back to heaven, returning to God who gave it. When the Lord died on the cross, the Spirit departed him. But on the third day he rose from death unto life. The crucified body became the resurrected body. The Spirit returning to that new glorified body. Such is what those saved through his death and resurrection shall endure.
      The spirit of the dead rise from the body. This is what Paul made reference to. All who die return to God in their true spirit form. Only those given salvation through Christ will receive the glorified body and those living will be transformed. Meeting with Christ in the air. Not to return heavenward, but to descend upon the earth where Christ will put and end to things, bind Satan and establish a kingdom until the appropriate time when Satan is once again loosed for a short season.
      God said to Jeremiah, "before I formed you in the womb, I knew you".

  • Jasmine

    Romans 6:23

    23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

  • js1019

    All religions lead to eternal life. The only decision is where they lead. The only way to heaven is through the Lord Jesus Christ. He is not a religion, He is a relationship.
    John 14:5-7
    New American Standard Bible (NASB)
    5 (A)Thomas *said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6 Jesus *said to him, “I am (B)the way, and (C)the truth, and (D)the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
    Oneness with the Father.
    7 (E)If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you (F)know Him, and have (G)seen Him.”

    • evermyrtle

      Yes, and there are only two destinations, one of them is in heave with THE TRINITY the other choice is to live it with Satan. We do not earn our eternal abode with GOD, it is "HIS GIFT OF GRACE" to us because we accept HIM, AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR. but we do earn our abode with Satan. He

      • lurl

        Here you are again with your crass ideation of what religion is all about. Guess what you know nothing.
        Try some real studies about the times, places and practices. Do you think that when the so-called jesus walked around
        that that was the only one pretending to be of god. The place was loaded with jesus fakirs.
        Read something else. Let the light into your mind.

        • Evermyrtle

          No, I do not believe that. There was not pretending n this case. HE WAS AND IS THE SON OF GOD AND MY SAVIOR. THAT MAKES HIM THE SON IN THE TRINITY OF THE FATHER, THE SON, THE HOLY GHOST.

          What ever we may believe on earth, however we may live on earth WE WILL MEET HIM FACE TO FACE AND WE WILL BE CHOSEN FOR HIS KINGDOM OR TURNED OVER TO THE ONE WE ACCEPT AND FOLLOW WHILE WE LIVE OUR LIVES O EARTH. That is the only truth we need to believe or follow to get where we are going in the end, one of two places. IT IS OUR CHOICE.

  • Byron

    Poeple, What did Jesus say about this? He said " I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH , AND THE LIFE ". He is thee ONLY way to Heaven or ETERNAL LIFE, says the Bible.

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Where have I heard that before????

      Horus was a popular Egyptian god who was the son of Osiris and Isis. Osiris and Horus were both solar deities. Osiris was the setting sun, Horus the rising sun. Jesus is the rising Son and the morning star.
      Horus also had titles such as the "way, the truth, the light, the Messiah, God's anointed Son, the Son of Man, the good shepherd, the lamb of God, the Word, the Morning Star, the light of the world.
      (10) He was "the Fisher," and was associated with the lamb, lion and fish ("Ichthys").
      (11) Horus's personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father."
      (12) Horus was called "KRST," or "Anointed One.

      The story of Horus can be found in "The Egyptian Book of the Dead (also known as the "Papyrus of Ani") written over 3,000 years before the birth of Christ.

      http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen046.h…

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        "Mithraism, one of the major religions of the Roman Empire, the cult of Mithra, the ancient Persian god of light and wisdom. In the Avesta, the sacred Zoroastrian writings (see Zoroastrianism) of the ancient Persians, Mithra appears as the chief yazata (Avestan, 'beneficent one'), or good spirit, and ruler of the world.

        Mithraism was similar to Christianity in many respects, for example, in the ideals of humility and brotherly love, baptism, the rite of communion, the use of holy water, the adoration of the shepherds at Mithra's birth, the adoption of Sundays and of December 25 (Mithra's birthday) as holy days, and the belief in the immortality of the soul, the last judgment, and the resurrection.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          "Plainly, the worship of Mithras was well ahead of the worship of Jesus. In any case there is a dated pre-Christian Mithraic inscription of Antiochus I of Commagene (69-34 BC) in eastern Asia Minor. Mithras shakes hands with the King, he wears the Phrygian cap, the Persian trousers, and a cape. His hat is star speckled and rays of light emerge from his head like a halo. His torq is a serpent. This is the image of the Roman Mithras in a scene taking place 100 years before the crucifixion."
          http://www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0690Mithras.html)

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Revelations of a clueless one…

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            I will leave useless revelations to one such as you. I prefer to deal with facts.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            You and facts is a musical chairs game…

          • Evermyrtle

            You are wasting a perfectly good brain. I hope you will soon develope a heart to go with it so that you can share in the "KINGDOM OF GOD!"

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            With all due respect, faith and a saving one is not something one can "develop" it is a gift of God given solely according to His good will and pleasure.

          • Ermyrtle

            You have a choice to believe or not to believe. If HE chooses for us that would make us puppets, without a will..

      • lurl

        Unfortunately you have presented the true facts to those who do not have the capacity to understand anything other than that which they have been told by some wandering preacher.
        They repeat only that which they have been told to memorize. You can not argue any points of their bible with them as they have yet to read it on their own.
        They don't understand ancient Greek nor Hebrew of any dialect. As one notes they are barely able to use a few words of English.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          You cannot even spell Walmart properly had a time so do not fantasize about Greek or Hebrew or any other language for that matter. Your "Greek" is encapsulated in word "Ouzo" at best and you never been there either…

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            "half" not "had" :)

  • JPW

    Yep! – and 'cept ye repent, ye likewise will perish'.

    • Deputy Duffy

      Perish, being the key word. "…..cast into the lake of fire, it will be as if they never were…"

  • Wilbert Jennings

    It seem there are a lot of confused supposedly Christians in this conversation. Christians are those that choose to follow Christ not Budda,or a Hindu diety or the god that Mohammed choose from the 600 gods which is ali. None of these gods took the torture and the embarassment of the cross for the believer as Jesus did. None of these gods resurrected from the tomb and was witnessed as the Christ that was murdered on the cross. Neither did any of these gods assend by witness back to the heavens as he said he would. Christians are actually people of the way. The Romans gave these people the name of Christians because they followed his teaching.Jesus stated no one came to the Father except through him. I understand this to mean that there is only one way to the Father and that is through his son Jesus.

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      You are correct. There are many confused Christans.

  • blackhawk

    Look. When we die we will either know or if as some believe ;You wont know your even dead just a rotting corpse .

    • lurl

      And who cares. When you are dead you are dead and the only living thing in you are the parasites, bacteria and all those other pathological demons.

  • Vince Zajdzinski

    I'ts not about knowing about Christ but it's knowing what Christ came to teach us. Love, truely loving everyone. Not to make a decision about who to love or qualify what love means but knowing what it means to have a servants heart towards everyone we encounter. Anyone who loves not matter what lable they wear will spend eternity sharing Gods glory in a glorified body. If we don't love, ouch. Christ determines who will be with him for eternity, "no one comes to the Father except by Me", it's not by doctrine, denomination or any other criteria except Love.

    • lurl

      Are you referring to all the love that emanates from those who call themselves xians here?

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        You would not know what love is and you never experienced that much is clear through tour demonized rant.

        • Evermyrtle

          Being vicious simply does nothing to win souls to CHRIST.The best thing for us to do is state the facts with love, not with a self righteous attitude. We forget, we were all lost at one tome

  • Buck

    I am positive that Jesus Christ said on more than one occasion said , " the ONLY way to the father is through me " , personally , I am not up to calling him a liar .

    • lurl

      AS he did not exist don't fear calling him a liar in fact, perhaps, the brother to the father of lies; according to your tradition.

      • Evermyrtle

        Be not fooled, you will meet HIM before you end up in your eternal home. It will not be too late if you accept HIM while still alive.

  • Shane

    So the logic is our way is right because our God says it was right? I think there is a small gap in that logic.

    • lurl

      How can your defy their logic? Their god says it is right and it is there for all to see in the 66 books of perverted material.
      How could there be a gap in their logical thinking.
      God said it, it is in the book and the subject is finished.
      Only question…which god, which book and by whom was it said.
      How many time has this book been translated and transliterated? No errors? There are many books that can point out the errors and impossibilities of this bible that have been done on computer without loss of linguistic values.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        Logic? Do not steal it from theistic worldview dumbo. When and where did logic evolve? Does it grow somewhere?

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          Atheists stole nothing from a worldview of talking donkeys and snakes, Humpty.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            lurl, I believe I have found Desperatevilles fixation with Canards.
            http://www.canardvineyard.com/

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            You both found a new word that expands your Walmart vocabulary too… Red necks from dark woods.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            The issue clearly goes over your mortgages reduced mind… Your fellow neophyte understood it a bit more that is why he will hold a fellow neophytes conclave on his lame blog to come up with a better excuse for what he cannot answer just like you cannot either mortgage philosopher.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Well, that was a mouthful of mush. I am glad to see you continue to use Babble as a second language.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            I know several languages dumbo that is why I can read books that you never will and never will hear about. You are reduced to misrepresent 200 plus popular pagers like that recent Krauss book…

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Yes, you continue to claim that. However, since you can barely write English, it is doubtful you are making a truthful statement.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            :) I don't care what is doubtful to you or what is not and do not get me going on your English and its "sharpness".

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Of course you do not care. People that accept delusion as reality care for nothing of importance. I expect nothing less from you.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            What a bunch of meaningless rubbish and smelly hogwash. You are spent for tonight. Your nothing is only your nothing Dixon.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            And you continue to post meaningless tripe. Which is normal for what you.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            My nothing is my only nothing?????????? Goodness, you continually butcher the Queens English.

          • Evermyrtle

            Des……………Doth not sound like a Christian speaking, best ignore if possible. You may say, " He is not a Christian but he does not claim to be a Christian. He needs GODLY testimony not belittling!

  • lurl

    There is no reason to make statements about a heaven or afterlife. Which will you chose?
    I would chose neither. When you die you are dead. I have never seen anything dead return to life. Please don't quote your perverted 66 errant books of your bible. It is you people who believe in myths and fairy tales and use circular reasoning to justify your most unjustifiable beliefs. There is no way any person of sound mind would believe the collected crap supposedly spoken by some fakir called jesus. Have any of you read the historians of the time. The real people not those who made a compilation of 66 books and threw out the good stuff. If you want to believe in all the fables and fairy tales go for it but don't try to bring down others who don't believe in your god or any other form of religion.

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      ' I have never seen anything dead return to life."

      As every high schooler knows human being see only about 1% of known electromagnetic spectrum. Therefore what you see or not see is completely and utterly meaningless in terms of the ultimate reality. You are like a mole who wants to prove to the other mole that there is no UDFy-38135539 galaxy or moon, or the tree over his hole…

  • Laur

    The Bible clearly explains there is ONE WAY. Read the Bible yourself ( New Testament for today's worship) and see what God has to say. Don't listen to others as some will mislead you. The first false way tells us in I Timothy 4:3 "they will forbid to marry and abstain from foods which should be eaten with thanksgiving". Figure it out and then remember that Christ died for the one church that started in AD33 when He died for it. Romans 16:16 "The Churches of Christ greet you" Any church started after that is false. ONE WAY His way…….to have eternal life. Remember, their was only one "chosen people" in the Old Testament. Israelites.

  • lurl

    Please go out into the real world and find some well authored books that deal with the religions of mankind. Open your eyes and learn something of your real history. You look like a bunch of country bumpkins.
    Were I your god I would certainly rid myself of such pestilence as you people. Why would a god chose a bunch of uneducated boobs to follow it.

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      hahahahahahaha junior college oracle has spoken….

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        hahahaha, yourself. Every society has chosen a god. You have chosen one as well. There is no difference between any of the gods that man has dreamt up.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          That is a question that you cannot approach Dixon for you discount any God a priori. To answer this question you would have to be a theist which you are not and thus one more time you have shown to be a thief and a robber plundering theistic world only to run to atheistic mirage and claim that you can have something real. Musical chairs was and is your favorite game, for the rest of us a memory of childhood.

    • Evermyrtle

      Lurl, what the world thinks does not matter. The world can do nothing for us.The world is Satan's playhouse and it is best to avoid him. The ONLY way to do that is to accept JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR and ignore what the world thinks to STAND OUR GROUND FOR JESUS. Nothing will stop us. You badly need to join us before you meet HIM face to face. We would love to have you!!!

  • Jerry M

    If you don’t accept Jesus Christ as your savior, you will not go to heaven.
    What part of that don’t some people understand. If those priests don’t accept Jesus they will not go to heaven either no matter how long they preach. Will you have eternal life? Sure, but it won’t be the life one desires and won‘t be in heaven. This is not a question one has a vote on. This is fact and truth.

    “Truth can only be stated one way
    Lies can be stated in a millions or more ways”
    – Jerry Morgan

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      The part where it makes any sense based on what we know of science and biology or logic.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        In short none of the sciences that you could possibly account for…

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          All of the sciences account for my view of reality. None of them account for your delusional views.

  • Chris P

    So many people arguing about heaven. Clearly there isn't one.

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      Clearly? Where in your super-telescope? Post a pic then…

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        Yet you are unable to show it.

        • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

          I cannot per my own faith and deposit of it which does not provide that for me. Therefore I am perfectly consistent with it while atheist moron asserts something that even my faith does not give me on this plane thus he is inconsistent even with what he barks at.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            In other words, you are unable to show it. Thanks for playing.

  • Reid

    believing in something sicerely isn't going to get you anywhere if what you believe in is false or contrary to what God has to say. are will merely be sincerely wrong. . Why is it that whatever it is that God says to do , believe or observe or obey people go so far out of their way to make excuses for not doing ??

  • lurl

    Do you know how silly your excerpt sounds Jasmina?
    There is no jc the lord nor any other god.
    Work for you own goals and don't wait for some passing god to save you.

    • Evermyrtle

      Have you ever stopped to think, how what you are saying, sounds.??

      • lurl

        Have you ever questioned what you think you believe? Those fables are pretty funny.

  • CJM2

    The survey pertains only to those who participated–it does not answer the question for everyone else. Makes one wonder why even waste the time and money to publish the "study." People will dredge up all manner of scripture to prove their point of view and refuse to acknowledge that there are other points of view that are just as correct. Not one religion has a premium on the claim that there is only one church and one way….fortunately, God knows what is in the heart of each and every one of us. And as a reminder to all the Bible thumpers: Judge not lest ye be judged….a little scripture that is taught by all existing religions.

  • Dennis

    Seriously? When will people realize all this new age occult, mumbo jumbo, crap mixed in with so called christianity? Belief in and on YASHUA MESSIAH(JESUS CHRIST) is the only way to salvation.Period end of story.

  • Eileen

    JESUS said "I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father accept through me" and Jesus also said those who believe in me will have life but those who do not are already condemned. I believe the whole world was judged and found guilty by God and that is the reason he sent his son to pay the price for our sins, and those who have faith in the one who paid the price for our sins will be forgiven, if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive our sins. Those who have heard the gospel of redemption but reject it will remain in their sins. The road that leads to heaven is narrow and few find it.

  • http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman

    Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but through me." In my opinion, that is all that needs to be said. Eternal life is something all of us with a soul are going to either enjoy or despise. If you are in heaven, the experience will be quite pleasant I'm sure, or so my faith in God's word leads me to believe. However, if you are to spend your eternity in hell, then of course the experience will not be very pleasant, or so my faith also leads me to believe. Just as it is our choice to believe or disbelieve, it is also our choice as to where we will spend eternity. If in fact there is no eternity, at least I can say I lived my life to the fullest, kept the commandments as best I could, treated those I've met with respect and told them the truth as I see it. Hopefully, God will honor that.

  • Briguy

    There is only one way to get to Heaven, through Jesus and obeying his commandments through Christian Baptism. Any other way is the wrong way. Any pastor not preaching this, they are doing their congregants a dis-service. If you're not saved through Christian Baptism, you probably will not make it to Heaven. Now, I know there are some circumstances that may be different, serious illness like Down Syndrome, other mental disorders and physical disorders where perhaps you are not aware about God and have no way of becoming aware, and he will forgive that!

    From what I've discovered through a man named Bill Weiss, you don't want to go to Hell. It's really hot, lonely, and the
    smells are so nauseating, and the demons are too and they make you so miserable all the time. Who would want that?

    • Laur

      Yes, finally someone else mentions baptism. Why do so many NOT believe that when it is written in the Bible so plain??
      Good job Briguy

  • far2right

    "Christianity" never saved and never will save a thing. The question should have been, "is Christ the only means to eternal life?"

    There will be many who will have said, "Lord, Lord", to whom He will say, "I never knew you".

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      Myths do not "know" anyone.

  • Prism

    "And this is the testimony (of the Gospel): God has given to us eternal Life and this Life is in His Son (Jesus). He who HAS the Son has Life; he who does not have the Son of God does NOT have LIfe." First John 5:11-12. It doesn't get much clearer than this. That is why the new birth (of which Jesus spoke in John 3) is essential, not optional.

  • Henk A. Berends

    Even some Christian Pastors are confused. The heart of the matter is that the Bible says in Acts 4 : 11 & 12 "He is the 'STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but 'WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF Corner stone. "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." He is the Christ of the scriptures. Hendrik