Ron Paul Supporters Reach Out to Evangelicals

With Rick Santorum now out of the presidential race, supporters of the Ron Paul campaign are stepping up efforts to court evangelical leaders.

Brian Jacobs, senior pastor of Metroplex Family Church in Fort Worth, Texas, and Justin Machacek, an award-winning producer for Daystar Television, met with the Texas congressman last week. They are now leading a nationwide effort to enlist the help of other evangelical Christian leaders to mobilize support for Paul's candidacy. The first of several planned conference calls between Paul and evangelical pastors and other leaders will be held this weekend, Jacobs and Machacek told The Christian Post in separate Wednesday interviews.

Machacek said that when he speaks to evangelical leaders, the concern they most often raise about Paul is his stance toward Israel. Paul wants a less active military presence around the globe, would cut all foreign aid, including aid to Israel, and is less concerned about Iran's potential development of a nuclear weapon than the other candidates.

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http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

Be very careful!

"Do not lay hands upon [vote for] anyone too hastily and thus share responsibility for the sins of others…." 1 Timothy 5:22

This applies whether we're talking about Obama, Romney, Paul, or whoever. Because Article 6 of the Constitution eliminated religious tests (and thereby Biblical qualifications) for federal (the States soon followed) for civil leadership, it is inevitable (as history has proven) that all of them will sin against Yahweh while in office. If you help put them into office, you share in their sins against Yahweh. For example, I wonder how Yahweh views Ron Paul's refusal to even say that Yahweh views sodomy as a sin – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIeW0DY64bE – and anyone who would vote for such a man for public office. Yes, he may overall be the best of the current lot but the lesser of two evils is still evil and so is anyone who supports the lesser of two evils.

Moreover, the last 224 years of constitutional elections has only resulted in this nation becoming less Christian and more ungodly, regardless who's elected. After every election, Americans eventually have cause for regret (Proverbs 29:2). And yet, every four years, they march right back to the voting booths with eternal hope (or is it merely short-sightedness?) and do it all over again. It's time we figure out that elections are nothing but a political shell game by which we are always provided the establishment's choice. Christians need to reconsider trying to salvage our nation via non-Biblical means. America cannot elect her way out of her problems; she must repent her way out.

Unlike Yahweh’s system, which provides for the appointment of the best of the best – the Constitution compels people to (hopefully) elect the best of the worst. It also necessitates political parties that are not only unbiblical but whose platforms are invariably ungodly. Political parties are the mechanism by which Christian constituents are offered up on the altar of WE THE PEOPLE.

The Constitutional Republic’s surrogate election process is essentially no different from what occurred in Numbers 14 after the Israelites refused to go in and take possession of the land of Canaan. Verse 4 informs us that they clamored for a leader of their own choosing. Nehemiah 9:17 aptly depicts their substitute plan: “[The Israelites] refused to obey … but hardened their necks, and in their rebellion appointed a captain to return to their bondage….” History has demonstrated that the Constitutional Republic’s election process has produced spiritual, political, and economic bondage for Americans. Simply put, with men’s elections we lose, and with Yahweh’s elections we win.

As subjects of the King of kings, our duty is not to elect a candidate from a political party. Our duty is to establish Yahweh’s judicial system and appoint men who fear Him and who will enforce His law rather than constitutional law. For the sake of a future generation of our progeny, we need to first recognize the futility of trying to save an ungodly system by ungodly means and look to and start working toward a time when our posterity will do it right this time. We cannot save future generations by trying to somehow salvage this generation by not only ungodly but what has proven to be futile means.

For more, see "Article 2: Executive Usurpation" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut….
- Boru44
  
  So you want a theocracy….the very thing the Pilgrims came to this country to get away from….You just want a different type of tyranny….I will fight to the death against a theocracy….I am a Christain. I will follow God's laws with my God and only my God to answer to….not any earthly government ESPECIALLY a "christain government". The Constitution was NOT written to seperate man from God….It was written to separate governments that would arrogantly claim to be the final arbiters of God's rights from the peoples rights given by GOD…The very reason that our country has gotten away from God is because the government by the people has been hamstrung by elitists like yourself that dare to think that they know the mind of God…You sir are an idiot….and I say this with all the Christian Charity that I can muster.
  - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
    
    Boru44: "So you want a theocracy….the very thing the Pilgrims came to this country to get away from…." Say what? I think you had better go back and read our 17th-century American history. Colonial governments were set up as Biblical theocracies – that is, established on Yahweh's perfect law and altogether righteous judgments (Psalm 19:7-9). Take for example, consider "McGuffey’s Eclectic Reader," America’s most popular school book in the 1800s, and its testimony America’s early form of theocratic government:
    
    "Their form of government was as strictly theocratical insomuch that it would be difficult to say where there was any civil authority among them distinct from ecclesiastical jurisdiction. Whenever a few of them settled a town, they immediately gathered themselves into a church; and their elders were magistrates, and their code of laws was the Pentateuch…. God was their King; and they regarded him as truly and literally so…."
    
    Furthermore, "Not all theocracies are Christian. Some are Jewish, Hindu, Islamic, Buddhist, and some are secular. There is no escaping theocracy. A government’s laws reflect its morality, and the source of that morality (or, more often than not, immorality) is its god. It is never a question of theocracy or no theocracy, but whose theocracy. The American people, by way of their elected officials, are the source of the Constitutional Republic’s laws. Therefore, the Constitutional Republic’s god is WE THE PEOPLE.
    
    "People recoil at the idea of a theocracy’s morality being forced upon them, but because all governments are theocracies, someone’s morality is always being enforced. This is an inevitability of government. The question is which god, theocracy, laws, and morality will we choose to live under?"
    
    Excerpted from "The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs. YHWH" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut….
    - msjallen
      
      The USA is a Client Nation. A CN to God is defined as a national entity under the patronage of God. A CN is assigned the responsibility for the formation, preservation, communication and fulfillment of the Canon of Scripture. There are OT Client Nations (Israel) and NT Client nations with born again believers as their citizens with a spiritual responsibility to their nation and to God which is the most important.
      Whom would you have as the leader of a theocracy? There will be a Theocratic government when Jesus Christ rules on the throne of David during the millennium but not before.
    - msjallen
      
      A Client Nation must have a civil government; its laws based on Divine establishment principles (Rom 13:1-10). It must have the function of evangelism and the teaching of Bible Doctrine from pastors or ministers. It has autonomous local churches where believers practice separation of church and State. The teaching of the mystery doctrine of the Church Age (Rom 5:32, 11:25, 16:25+) and God’s plan for that nation and missionary activity to other nations that will not interfere with that nation’s politics. SPQR was the first Client Nation in the Church Age during the reign of the Antonine Caesars called the Golden Age. There was peace and prosperity more than any other time and the greatest CN of all time lasting 400 years. The leaders were not even Christian and yet believers and evangelism spread tremendously. Other CN such as the Goths, Sweden, Switzerland, France under the Huguenots, and other Anglo Saxon basin countries. The USA has been a CN from its beginning.
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
        
        Sorry, no nation can be a "client nation" (your term) of Yahweh (the God of the Bible) whose laws are inconsonant with His. There is hardly an article or amendment that is not antithetical to Yahweh's morality as found in His commandments, statutes, and judgments and some which are blatantly hostile to His sovereignty in some fashion. See "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: the Christian Perspective" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/blvc-index.php.
        
        Find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to Yahweh's moral law (His commandments, statutes, and judgments). Take our Constitution Survey at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/constitutionsurvey… and receive a free copy of the "Primer" (an 85 page book, normally $7 plus shipping) of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective."
    - Evermyrtle
      
      You must remember Ted, so many people, to day "do not want the truth." But, even as we are fighting against all the evils of hell, we must "CONTINUE TO STAND FOR THE TRUTH, WE CANNOT GIVE UP. KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT. We will make mistakes, because we are not GOD we are human, but we cannot allow anything to stop us.
  - Evermyrtle
    
    Theocracy: a government in which GOD or gods, is recognized as the supreme ciil ruler and divine or religious laws are taken as the laws of the state.
    
    Therefore Bonu44, theocracy is what the pilgrims were seeking, not running away from. Thy were running from persecution, laws which were preventing them to worship. It was against the law, there, to as much as to own a bible. Unless they could obtain a Bible,ILLEGALLY, (and could be put to death, if they were discovered, just having on in their possession) they had only the word of the persecuters, what 'THE WORD OF GOD WAS! MANY OF THESE PEOPLE WERE BURNED AT THE STAKE, BEHEADED AND MURDERED FOR SEEKING THE "TRUE WORD OF GOD" One of these great men said,"Every plow boy must be able to own a Bible and made a great effort to see that that dream of his came true. He may have been beheaded for his efforts for that work, I cannot remember
    
    There is a great video, I do not know if it can be found, anymore, THE FORBIDDEN BOOK," describes the works of such great workers, Martin Luther, William Tyndale,John Wycliffe and others, who were involved in this effort,
    
    This video, "The Forbidden Book was put out by:
    New Liberty Videos
    P. O Box 25662
    Shawnee Mission, KS 66225
    Ph. 913-681-1080
    
    Whether it is still in business or have this video, I do not know but it is a wonderful work of what our pilgrims were fleeing.
    .
- evermyrtle
  
  Many thanks, Ted!!!
Evermyrtle

Exodus 20:8 Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy!!
- Shelbel
  
  We are not under the law. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. God is concerned about PEOPLE, not about "breaking the rules". Jesus fulfilled the law so we didn't have to. Good thing seeing that there is no way we COULD!
  - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
    
    Shelbel, it would appear you do not correctly understand the term "under the law," as the Apostle Paul used it. If inclined, you might find "Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/law-kingdom.php of some help.
    - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
      
      To know "how Apostle used it" we go to the Word of God and not your write ups… Like here for example:
      
      Romans 7
      
      Believers United to Christ
      
      1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? 2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. 3 So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man.
      4 Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.
      
      7 What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “YOU SHALL NOT COVET.” 8 But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. 9 I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died; 10 and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; 11 for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. 12 So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
      
      13 Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.
      
      The Conflict of Two Natures
      
      14 For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. 16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. 17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
      21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. 22 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, 23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.
  - Evermyrtle
    
    Shelbel, you are correct, we are living under Grace, not under the law; GOD did make the Sabbath for man and not man for the Sabbath. You are also correct,also in all the deeds that JESUS did on the Sabbath. HE did anything and everything HE needed to do on the Sabbath. There is much scripture many verses Bible verses relating to these facts.
    
    Did you also read the following scriptures:
    Matt 24:20
    " 28:01
    Mark 01:21
    " 02:27
    " 06:02
    " 16:01
    Luke 04:16
    " 06:06
    " 13:10
    " 23:56
    None scriptures relate to how JESUS and HIS people did honor the sabbath. Instead of the sabbath we honor Sunday which was adopted as the modern sabbath by the Catholic Faith. I had no intention of offend you or anybody else. Many people are offend by honoring the sabbath because of several religions taking the sabbath as a holy day. . As far as I am concerned that is their right, just the same as it is the right of Sunday worshipers,to worship GOD on Sunday.As far as I know you can worship GOD every day of the week.
    
    Why does these different worship days offend some people so much? .
    
    Thanks for your input!!
    - Evermyrtle
      
      Shelbel
      By the fact that we are living under grace does not in any way whatsoever nullify the Old Testament. It was GOD'S law and it is GOD'S law. It will remain GOD'S law whatever foolish notions that self righteous mankind can and will come up with.
    - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
      
      "And it happened that He was passing through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples began to make their way along while picking the heads of grain. 24 The Pharisees were saying to Him, “Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” 25 And He *said to them, “Have you never read what David did when he was in need and he and his companions became hungry; 26 how he entered the house of God in the time of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the consecrated bread, which is not lawful for anyone to eat except the priests, and he also gave it to those who were with him?” 27 Jesus said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28 So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”"
      
      ~ Mark 2:23-28 NASB
      
      http://www.gty.org/resources/Sermons/41-11
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
        
        “But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right Hand of God, then to wait until His enemies should be made a stool for His Feet.”
        Hebrews 10:12
        
        Now how exactly will these enemies of Jesus be a stool for him in Heaven when they are actually roasting in hell and heaven cannot allow any sinful thing in it? If he plans on going to hell to use them as a footstool, then the presence of the lord would be in hell, and that of course is contrary to the story as well. It also reeks of being somewhat petty. After all, they are already in hell, burning all eternity, but lets add insult to injury and have you be a footstool for a period.
        
        "Depart from Me you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared or the devil and his angels…" (Matthew 25:41).
        
        As a side note, Jesus is simply going to sit there waiting until his enemies are made into a stool? He is the ruler of the universe, and that is how he has decided to bide his time?
- http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
  
  Are you Seventh Day Adventist Myrtle?
  - Evermyrtle
    
    Well no. but I do read the Bible and know basically what it says, about most subjects.In spite of the fact the Seveneth Day Adventest are hated because they dare stand up for what they believe, I honor them for this fact. I know the Saturday is the Sabbath Day, chosen as such, by GOD, not me. .The Catholic Church chose and changed the worship to Sunday and people follow, alongI go to Church on Sunday's, too but, I stand on what I believe is the truth and if nobody else does that, that is fine with me, you have that right given to you by GOD. When I copied and posted that verse of Scripture,
    - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
      
      The Sabbath for Christians is Jesus Christ ALL THE TIME for He is THE LORD OF SABBATH.
      You have bought into mosaic customs.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        I assume you are talking about the Sunday which is the fake Sabbath. The Catholic mad this one, after JESUS returned back to heaven to be with HIS FATHER. JESUS honored the true Sabbath.
        
        It is Biblical. I copied straight out of the Bible. It is one of GOD'S commandments. It is a sin to cut anything out of the Bible, that means that you are cutting out part of the Bible.
        
        Rev 22:18-19
        18. For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, GOD shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
        19. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, an from the thing which are written in this book.
      - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
        
        "I assume you are talking about the Sunday which is the fake Sabbath."
        
        Indeed you assume what you want to assume and never deal with the other side actually presents to you…
        Catholicism has nothing to do with what I posted but everything to do with you not hearing and not willing to see what I posted. So one more time:
        
        FOR A CHRISTIAN THE SABBATH NOW IS EVERYDAY AND ALL THE TIME AND IN JESUS ONLY:
        
        "And it happened that He was passing through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples began to make their way along while picking the heads of grain. 24 The Pharisees were saying to Him, “Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” 25 And He *said to them, “Have you never read what David did when he was in need and he and his companions became hungry; 26 how he entered the house of God in the time of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the consecrated bread, which is not lawful for anyone to eat except the priests, and he also gave it to those who were with him?” 27 Jesus said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28 So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”"
        
        ~ Mark 2:23-28 NASB
        
        You love to crouch in the shadows of mosaic customs and not willing to embrace the light of New Testament fully.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        There are many scriptures that note Jesus honoring the Sabbath, several instances where HE went to the synagogue and taught. . Did you not check out the list of scriptures whichI I posted earlier, or do you need for me to post them again?
        
        By the way, I am well aware that JESUS did anything that was needed on the Sabbath. That is why I do the same. But to get a well balanced idea of JESUS and the Sabbath you really need to read the scriptures in the list that I posted. I also know, how HE was hated because HE did not bow to their ignorance.
        
        A few of the scriptures:
        Matt. 24:20 But pray you that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day. (Now I do wonder why HE said this)!
        Matt. 28:01 In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre,
        Mark 02:21 They went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.
        Luke 04:16 And HE came to Nazareth, where HE had been brought up: and as HIS custom was HE went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up to read.
        
        I am so glad that I copied the commandment: "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy." I did not know previously how badly that commandment needed discussing. I had no idea that many were trying to abolish it, to try to prove a point. Abolishing GOD'S WORDS simply "WILL NOT WORK!" THERE IS NO REASON GOOD ENOUGH TO DO THAT!!!.
      - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
        
        None can keep any commandment on their best day even. Having said that it does no mean we should't try and do as we can. That is why Lord of Glory is also The Lord of Sabbath and those who are in Him have a continuing Sabbath in Him and not just one day of the week:
        
        "Jesus said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
        So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.” ~ Mark 2:27-28 NASB
        
        Can you try to raise above mosaic customs please and see The Lord?
      - Evermyrtle
        
        You just can't accept that JESUS honored the Sabbath, can you? What do you do with the verses where HE teaches on the Sabbath. The verses you gave are true but you need both sets to make a whole. I don't think there was any indication in my posts that there was only one day in the seven that is not to be counted but there is only one a day week that is the sabbath. I'm not about how we worship or when we worship as a world, today but what is Biblical. If you want to worship on Sunday, that is fine with me, I do, too but Saturday, the sabbath is my special day for GOD.
      - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
        
        You cannot understand that Jesus is far bigger and greater than your mosaic customs, can you?
      - Evermyrtlelinder
        
        YOU NEED TO READ WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN AND THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE.
        
        I understand enough about GOD'S WORD to know that we are in the ends days, that JESUS promised to HIS people. We do not have to worry about anything but living by HIS commandments, one of which is "Love the neighbor as thy self", another one says "Thou shall not bear false against thy neighbor. Do you think there is a possibility that is what your are doing, when you call us idiots, or you cannot understand, what GOD'S word is saying, and other spiteful mean things. Another bit of advice, that I find in HIS WORD is: do not think more of yourself than you should. HE also says that "If you say you have no sin, you area liar and the truth is not in you!" HIS WORD,also speaks against spite and malice.
        
        If I call you an idiot or tell you that you do not know GOD or HIS WORD, that is nothing for you to worry about, the sin is mine, not yours. I promise I will not say such thing, because I do not think you are an idiot, I do not know how well you know GOD'S WORD, therefore will not say that you know very little. If you do not think like I do, about any scripture it is not because you are an idiot, it is because you do not agree with me. When you turn people off from your works by spite, you have ended your chances to witness to them because WE WILL NOT LISTEN, WILL NOT HEED WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY!" Do make an attempt to cool your temper when you think your intelligence is questioned. THAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF GOD'S WORKERS!!
        
        I want you to know "you are not the lone wolf." We all have a little of all this in us, especially malice, and feeling righteous, falsely, and the desire to look good. Nobody can stifle that out of us .W must do that ourselves.
        
        Remember, when someone insults another the sin is against the insulter not the insulted!!!
        
        My blessings andmy prayers go with you as you work fo the GOD D THE UNIVERSE
Evermyrtlelinder

Do we have one candidate who is a Christian, as the "WORD OF GOD" describes a Christian??

We as a country have strayed so far from GOD and HIS commandments, and still we expect GOD'S blessings, and HE does bless us, with abundant blessings. What "WONDERFUL GOD, HE IS!"

How long will this continue, if we do not turn back to HIM? We proclaim so weakly, to be a Christian nation, still we allow a person who not only, is not a Christian, but one who determined, in the destruction of our faith in JESUS CHRIST as 'President of our nation.' Not only that, but we elect all of his promoters in this evil, to back him up in "his determination!" They are doing almost a perfect job in that intention. AND WE SIT BACK AND DO NOTHING. Actually we do not have to do anything, but I think it would be far better for us, if we make our best attempts to overcome the evil rushing over the nation, BUT HE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, HIS HANDS ARE NOT TIED. IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN CONTINUE IN YOUR WORK, LET NOTHING STOP YOU, HE IS WATCHING EACH OF US AND KNOWS EXACTLY WHO IS HIS AN D WHO IS NOT. KEEP THE FAITH!!!

After all is finished on earth HE says:
Matt 24:30-31
30.Then shall appear the sign of the SON OF MAN in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the SON OF MAN coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31.And HE shall send HIS angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together HIS elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

We must put our faith in GOD AND HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST and be ready, in that day!!
tod

Dr.Ron Paul 2012 !!!
msjallen

Our country was never set up as a Theocracy but as a Republic. Apart from the best form of government; Theocracy, a Republic is the next best. The foundation of the Jewish Nation began through regeneration and eventually became naturalized (must have the lines of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob – The Patriarchs). Since the Jews were a spiritual Nation founded on regeneration it was necessary to have something comparable known as “The Church” after Christ’s death, burial and resurrection. A spiritual nation made up of ALL believers; The Church Age. Our country was not founded on regeneration but a secular society where we are free to worship God as individuals. God does not deal with us as a nation compared to the way He dealt with Israel during the Age of Israel. I believe that God works with each “age or era” differently and since we are in the Church Age there is not a Nation that is a Theocracy ruled by God. God works with individual believers in this Age to bring each of us to spiritual maturity and the more spiritual mature believers there are in this country the more our country will be blessed by God.
- http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
  
  First, under the Old Covenant, there never was a Jewish nation – it was an Israelite nation. The two terms are not synonymous. The term "Jews," more properly "Judahites," only represented the southern two-tribed house of Judah, after the division of the united kingdom under Solomon's son Rehoboam. Neither Abraham nor Isaac were Jews or Israelites. Jacob is who might be termed the first Israelite or better the progenitor of the Israelites, and his son Judah is who might be termed the first Judahite or better the progenitor of Judahites.
  
  That said, a theocracy is determined by its god – whether the true God or false god – and its god is determined by whose law is established as the law of land. As per Article 6 of the Constitution, WE THE PEOPLE's law is the law of the land and therefore WE THE PEOPLE is the Constitutional Republic's god. We are today at the same place as those on Mt. Carmel when Elijah charged the people to choose their god – only today it's not a choice between Baal and Yahweh but between WE THE PEOPLE and Yahweh. (Actually Baal – as are all false gods – is essentially the same as WE THE PEOPLE.) Choose carefully!
  - msjallen
    
    Ted, I am curious about something. When you witness to someone about salvation, do you ask them if they know who Jesus Christ is or do you use the word Yahweh to introduce them to the gospel?
    - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
      
      Depending on the specifics of the dialogue, I might use both. Of course, salvation (reconcilliation with Yahweh) is only possible through Christ's blood atoning sacrifice and resurrection from the grave.
      
      If you have a problem with Yahweh (the most-often used pronunciation of the Old Testament Tetragrammaton by Hebrew scholars, the principal name of God the father), your argument is with God Almighty. He inspired for it to appear in the Old Testament nearly 7,000 times and commanded its use multiple times. It would be found in our English Bibles had the English translators, following Jewish tradition in violation of Matthew 15:6-9, had not removed and replaced it with "the LORD" and "GOD."
      - msjallen
        
        I don't have a problem with my relationship with Jesus Christ and I don't live under traditions but from the Word of God therefore I have no argument with God the Father.
      - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
        
        "f you have a problem with Yahweh (the most-often used pronunciation of the Old Testament Tetragrammaton by Hebrew scholars, the principal name of God the father), your argument is with God Almighty."
        
        And not with those "Hebrew Scholars"? Hmmm I think God can tell the difference between YHVH and man, XVI century made by German monks "Yahweh"
        
        "to appear in the Old Testament nearly 7,000 times"
        
        What appears there is not "Yahweh" so why do you lie about that Ted?
    - Evermyrtle
      
      HE was called Yahweh, which is the Hebrew translation, long before HE was called JESUS CHRIST, which is the English translation. Guessing, I would say HE was first called JESUS CHRIST when Christianity was first taught or preached in the English language. I really thought that most Christians knew that!
      - msjallen
        
        Yes, I know, Ms Myrtle, Israel did not know the name of Jesus Christ; They knew Yahweh, Jehovah, and Shekinah Glory. Jesus Christ was well known before He came to earth but His given name was not known.
        Yahweh, Jehovah, Priest, Lion as the Tribe of Judah, line of Jessie. Joshua was a type or illustration of Jesus Christ – Hebrew equivalent to the Greek Jesus. This Son possessed His Father’s qualities – same attributes co-equal with God the God of Yahweh. Yahweh – Lord – Dt 6:4 Hear, O Israel! The LORD (Jesus Christ) is our God; the LORD (Jesus Christ) is one! (Jesus Christ). Tetragrammatons: JHWH – Jahweh – Yahweh used for the proper name for God in the OT. Elohim – plural suffix – refers to more than one person in the Godhead – 3 persons who are co-equal Jesus Christ is our God, used for the Holy Spirit.
        And that was not what I was asking Ted W.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        OK and thanks!!!
- guest
  
  JEWS……………GAVE AMERICA AND THE WORLD………..BOLSHEVIK………………COMMUNISM……….AND TODAY IN AMERICA……………THEY STILL VOTE FOR 'ULTRA LEFT' DUMBOCRATS""! COMMIES IN THEIR "TRUE" HEARTS''! A 'GOY' WHO GREW UP IN JEW TOWN…………………NEW YORK CITY.
kmax

I can't make a good Biblical argument either way . But I can say read " None Dare Call it Conspiricy " ; Gary Allen , then " The Terrorist Within " & " The Enemy Within " ; Bill Hughes , and " National Sunday Law " and maybe " The Creature from Jeckle Island " . This info sure changed my point of view of our government . Also look into your STRAWMAN ! These reasons alone is why OUR Country is shot . END THE FED ! Dr. Paul is the ONLY ONE who will restore LIBERITY to our once FREE Country . He is the ONLY ONE who says the Federal Reserve Bank is a problem . If 147 corperations run the WORLD , should THEY control our MONEY and the ECONOMY TOO ? Remember the " Money Changers " of the Bible ? Isn't that what Jesus DID ? Throw THE MONEY CHANGERS OUT , throw them out NOW ! What Would Jesus Do ? You know the answer , Don't You ?
Evangelist R

The times are what they are because American's are what they are. The average American claims America as a Christian nation, but what would God say? Jesus declared, in His time, "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. (Matthew 15:8 KJV)" What has happened? History repeats itself – the average American is like the people of Israel as recoreded in 2 Kings 17:41: "So these nations feared the LORD, and served their graven images, both their children, and their children’s children: as did their fathers, so do they unto this day." America also in the condition of Judah in 2 Chronicles 36:16: "But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy." It is high time for profession Christians to REPEMT of theri sin and restore REALITY to what it means to be a true Christian so that the world may have a true testimony of lives changed by the Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ!!
Guest

REMEMBER THIS, All EVANGELICAL Christians Here. You Elected George Bush Jr. Who Went On And Killed 5,400 Innocent Americans In a UN-DECLARED War.(IRAQ) Is It Any Wonder''? That the Islam Faith Has Awaken'To The Threat Of Their People By JEWISH RUN AMERICA'? (AIPAC,The 'ADL') Now,The Jew (ISRAEL) Wants America To Assist Her In The Destruction Of Iran. Who Next''? Evangelical Christian? I Support Dr.Ron Paul. He See's The 'FOLLY' In Defending A Nation Bent On Destruction And Dis-placement Of Palestinian People's. I Also support 1000% No More Foreign Aid To 'any' Country. We Can Use This To Rebuild Our Broken Interstate's,Bridges,Tunnel's,Fence's Along Our Mexican Border, Deportation Of All Illegal Foreign National's,Engish As Americas Official Language Etc Etc. SAVE MY REPUBLIC'!
- Evermyrtle
  
  Many American presidents have made many disasterous decisions, but the present one, illegal as he may be, is the first one who has made an all out effort to disclaim my SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, AS THE SON OF GOD.
Vladimir

Ted R. Weiland, you said, "If you help put them into office, you share in their sins against Yahweh." Are you saying I'm responsible for the sins of others? Don't you mean we suffer the consequencies of our vote?

I can't share in anyone's sin, I'm only responsible for my own sins. What a terrible thing to say to someone who voted for Hitler when he ran for Chancellor of Germany. Do they have the blood of millions on their heads? Many innocent people were duped into voting for him, just as many people were duped into voting for Obama.

Do I have to repent for the sins of others? What a wacky theology. I hope you misspoke.
- Evermyrtle
  
  Problem: Is it a a sin to promote someone who you know is not GOD'S choice? If you do, you commit a sin.
  
  Of course I know we are all sinners, the deference is, if they do not accept JESUS CHRIST AS SAVIOR AND GOD'S SON and honor that fact, we should not be promoting them, I believe that, if it is the ocassion, is a sin.
  - Vladimir
    
    Evermytle, do you know someone who is not God's choice for POTUS? Or are you assuming you do? Romney accepts Jesus Christ as Savior and God's Son. Do you doubt his veracity? Do you buy into the lie that Mormons worship a "different" Jesus. How absurd. There is only one Jesus Christ and those that spread the "different" Jesus lie know that. But they must make a living from people who attend their churches and every member that leaves to join the Mormon church reduces their paycheck. And they can't earn anything being a clergyman for the Mormons because the Mormons don't pay their clergy a red cent.
    - Evermyrtle
      
      Do I know someone who is not GOD'S choice? I believe what I said was, "If you know, not when you know," No, I do not know what any one of the candidates really believe. Actually I do not even remember what any one of them said they believed about my SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST. You cannot always go by what a person says, anyway, but usually can look at the tree he represents. What does that tree bare? Is the fruit good or is the fruit bad.
      
      Oh yes, Romney, answering your question, I do not know nor did I say that I know anything about his belief or unbelief about JESUS.
      
      Now, my question to you: "What makes you think I "'buy into what the Mormons say." Actually, I have not written one word about what they believe. I have no idea what they believe or are saying, but I do not think that they can be more unfair and judgmental than you are. I don't worry about things that I have no control over. GOD will judge me and you by what I say and do just as HE will judge you for you say and do. I had rather GOD judge me for being wrong in misjudging Mormons by thinking they believe in JESUS and find I am wrong, than to HIM to judge me for accusing them of being anti-JESUS when all along they were Christians. Anyway, HE won't accuse me of either one because I have not come to a conclusion of whether they believe or they don't believe in JESUS. I cannot judge them according to what they do or what they do not do because I know only one Mormon. She is a very nice person. I never heard one vicious, spiteful, mean word out of her. The few times i was around her we did not discuss what she believed. I do promise, if we had discussed that. I would have not tried to tear he apart about her opinions if she had told me she did not believe as I did. DO YOU KNOW WHY? I WILL TELL YOU WHY! GOD gave her the right to chose HIM or not to choose HIM exactly like he gave me the right to believe what I believe.
      - Vladimir
        
        You are so right. God gives us agency. We can make decisions and when we do, we enjoy or suffer the consequences. Hopefully we choose good as opposed to evil. As far as voting for the next president, it is my opinion that God wants us to study and decide who will run this country the best. Once we have done our homework and made our decision, then we can go to Him for confirmation of our decision.
      - Robert Christopulos
        
        I decided to read this blog. Unfortunately much of it is a waste of time. Someone says we are not under the law. What law or laws? Are we under natural law? Aren't we under traffic laws? The list goes on and on, ad infinitum, ad nausium!
        
        This statement regarding Jesus is another of these. Yaweh is a misnomer. Till the 9th Century there were no diacritical marks-No One know what the proper pronunciation of the Tetragramaton is! The Jesus of Islam is not the virgin born, sired by The Holy Spirit, Son of The Almighty. They have no concept of redemption, or forgiveness, etc.. The Jesus of Mormonism is the son of a glorified man, was conceived through natural sexual relations with Mary whom he chose to be his wife for the day. Their Jesus is a good example, but not The Redeemer who saves us from all Sin. Who transforms us by His Spirit into new creations, never leaves us or forsakes us, provides Eternal Life-not on the basis of good works, but on the basis that He is the God-Man who is able to take us from the Kingdom of Sin, Death and Darkness to the Kingdom of God.
        
        The problem is that Romney is bound to be obedient to all the laws, ordinances and commandments of The LDS Church, including obedience to all of the leaders of the Church.
        
        The real problem is that I am a Believer, and must, if I vote, vote my conscience. I am a Constitutionist as well.
        
        Romney is a Socialist. Obama is a Socialist. Paul has other problems. God is going to have to give me real wisdom when I go to the polls. Who knows, I may vote for Mickey Mouse for POTUS. The following post about voting for Hitler is very apropo.
        
        Pray, Pray, Pray!
    - bighoss
      
      Poor Vlad,
      You evidently have not studied up very much on the Mormon Cult. Mormons worship a different God and a different Jesus than the God and Jesus of the Bible.
      
      You have got yourself brainwashed by Mormon nonsense, Vlad. In your case, the brainwashing exercise required nothing more than a light rinse.
      - Vladimir
        
        Cute but without substance as usual.
- Matt Holm
  
  People who voted for Hitler had been given ample warning of what he represented for years leading up to his ascension to Chancellor. It is not unfair to hold them at least partly accountable for the consequences of their votes. Being an apologist for having voted for the embodiment of the anti-Christ is just plain ridiculous and falls on deaf ears where it counts.
  
  In 1929, 4 years before Hitler became Chancellor, a young Jewish soapmaker, Emanuel Bronner, left Germany, after having tried unsuccessfully to convince his family to go with him. He saw very clearly exactly what was coming. The last word he ever got from his family, was a censored post card from his father, sent from a concentration camp in 1943. The message that the censors left intact, was "Son, you were correct." Emanuel Bronner went on to found and operate Dr. Bronner's Pure Castilian Soap company for many years until his death in 1997. Bronner's message for the rest of his life was anti-military, anti-war, and in favor of universal love and tolerance.
  
  For those with the intellectual curiosity to find out, and the intellectual honesty to fact the truth, the people have voted for the worst Presidential candidates consistently since 1964 when they gave that corrupt, lying bastard LBJ, a landslide victory over the honest, principled Barry Goldwater. The elections of both Bushes and Obama would not have occurred had the voting public done their job in a responsible and honrable fashion. And yes, the voters who put these agents of evil into the White House, will suffer the consequences for the iniqutiy and human suffering that have and will result from their presidencies.
  - Vladimir
    
    Yes, Matt, they will suffer the consequences for what horrible presidents did (and are doing), but the voters incurred no sin for any sins the presidents committed. We are responsible for our own sins, no one else's sins. However, as you said, all of us suffer the consequences for what THEY voted for. I'm for universal peace, too. But Heavenly Father's proving ground for his children will alway have wars and rumors of war.
  - Evermyrtle
    
    You are absolute right, Matt, especially about Goldwater and LBJ!!!
http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

"Do not lay hands upon [vote for] anyone too hastily and thus share responsibility for the sins of others…." 1 Timothy 5:22

The principle is same, and probably even more so, when it comes to unbiblically voting for Biblically unqualified, and nearly always, Biblical adverse candidates.It's what might be termed covenantal coverture complicity, as described by the Apostle Paul in Romans 5. This is not the case when we follow Yahweh's election process. In addition to the article I cited above, you might be interested in listening to a two-part audio seriesentitled "Elections: Man's or Yahweh's," at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/tapelist.php#T873 and T874.
Vladimir

Ted R. Weiland, you quoted 1 Timothy 22:6, "Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure." You failed to mention that Timothy was addressing members of the church on how to act with one another. YOU added "vote for". Where do you get the authority to alter the scriptures? Why do you feel the need to change their meaning for your own purposes?

Wasn't Timothy talking about assaulting someone? "Lay hands suddenly on no man", is definitely not talking about voting for him. Wacky theology there Ted.
- http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
  
  Laying hands upon someone has to do with the appointment of ecclesia leadership. Like I said above, the principle is the same, probably even more so, when it comes to unbiblically voting for Biblically unqualified, and nearly always, Biblical adverse candidates.
  - Vladimir
    
    Timothy knew perfectly well that calling someone to an ecclesiastical position by the laying on of hands was done under the inspiration of God. There was no voting for people in elections for Bishop or Apostle or any ecclesiastical position. And no, casting lots was not voting! You added "vote for" without authority to change the scriptural meaning for your own purposes!
    - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
      
      Are you unable to understand the phrase "in principle." Probably doesn't matter. It's doubtful that anyone is going to take seriously anyone's Christianity or Biblical applications who thinks Mormonism's Jesus is the same Jesus as found in the Scriptures.
      - Vladimir
        
        And another thing. The office of the president is not an ecclesiastical position, so Timothy wasn't talking about a temporal office in any case. That scripture you cited is so not talking about voting that you are either ignorant or arrogant that you can squeeze whatever meaning from the scriptures you desire.
        
        Obviously you are straining at a gnat to persuade people from voting against Obama. Just remember one thing, Ted R. Weiland, Obama plays golf on Sunday, Romney doesn't.
      - Vladimir
        
        Oh please. The "another Jesus" lie?? Can't you, who preach for filthy lucre, stop worrying about losing your financial base. There are plenty of folks who won't wander off your reservation without you resorting to lying about Mormon doctrine. I know you depend on donations and book sales for your livelyhood. Try being a Mormon bishop. No compensation. Have to hold down a full time job to support family and run a congregation at the same time. Yet thousands do it and not for "another Jesus" either. They do it for the one and only Jesus Christ who atoned for all of our sins and made it possible for us to return to God.
        
        Whew, now I have to ask for your forgiveness.
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
        
        What are you asking my forgiveness for – for falsely accusing me of preaching for filthy lucre? If this is in fact true, why did you not go back and take it out of your response before sending it? You had better first ask Almighty God's forgiveness for slandering me and then do the same (being specific) before this forum with whom you maligned me.
        
        Are you Mormon?
      - Vladimir
        
        Do you preach for money? Do you accept donations for your ministry? Do you use some of those donations for you personal support? If so, do you not consider that you are preaching for money? Yes, I am a Mormon and you knew that based on your slight about the "other Jesus" lie. I really expected more from you based on what I perceived was your high level of learning and was disapjpointed that you stooped to using that lie I hear from the less learned on this site.
        
        My only concern about my behavior was I being too sharp in my writing. I said nothing slanderous unless you are independently wealthy and take no donations for personal support. Or if you hold down a full time job running a hardware store or some other income producing job and do your ministry in your spare time and take no money from it for personal use, then you are not "preaching for filthy lucre and you deserve my apology. Then you are acting like Mormon clergy who receive no pay.
        
        Is that the case?
      - Evermyrtle
        
        Is this GOD speaking???? Who else has the right to such question unless they are supplying the money, which is being twisted out of their hands! Are you supplying any monies that he receives.
        
        But, this is right in line with HIS WORD, which says HIS people will be persecuted in the end days.
        
        John 15:1-4
        1. These things have I spoken unto you, that you should not be offended.
        2.They shall put you out of the synagogues; yes the time comes, that whosoever kills you will think that he is doing GOD service.
        3. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the FATHER, nor me.
        4. But these things have i told you, that when the time shall come, you may remember that I told you of them. And these thing I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
      - Vladimir
        
        It's Peter speaking, "Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;"
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
        
        Vladimir, I did NOT know you were Mormon. I became suspicious with your defense thereof. Quite frankly, YOU are smart enough to know that the Mormon Jesus and the Christian Jesus are not the same and to admit anything else is subterfuge on your part.
        
        Furthermore, I'm sure you know full well the implications of filthy lucre. If you don't then this (in addition to multitudes of others) is but another departure of Mormonism from true Christianity and the inspired and revealed Word of God. When Paul took support for his work and promoted the same in his writings was he taking and promoting filthy lucre?
      - Vladimir
        
        I have to agree with you that what you call the Christian Jesus is not the same as the Jesus of the scriptures, the one you call the Mormon Jesus. Mormans don't teach the concept of a "Triune" God. The definition of God developed at the Council of Nicea 325 years after the death of Christ and adopted by the Roman Church and passed on to Protestants. It is impossible to reconcile with the Bible. A three in one god? We are suppose to believe that Jesus prayed to himself, told his disciples to pray to our Farther who art in heaven when He was standing in front of them. Did He request of Himself to forgive those who were crucifying Him on the cross or was He asking His Heavenly Father? Did he forsake himself? That is a committee definition of God, not one that can be read in the Bible.
        
        As for preaching for filthy lucre, Mormans don't do it. There are no millionaire tele-evangelists in the Morman church. We don't solicit donations from the public, we pay our way and help others to boot. Our welfare system is fully funded by Mormons and allows us to help non-Mormons as well as our own poor. Charity never faileth!
      - Justmyrtle
        
        Read the "Justmyrtle" post, below.
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
        
        Vladimir: "As for preaching for filthy lucre, Mormans don't do it. There are no millionaire tele-evangelists in the Morman church. We don't solicit donations from the public, we pay our way and help others to boot. Our welfare system is fully funded by Mormons and allows us to help non-Mormons as well as our own poor. Charity never faileth!"
        
        This completely ignores my questions to you about Paul and, therein, your false accusation against me.
      - Vladimir
        
        Ted R. Weiland, you said, "When Paul took support for his work and promoted the same in his writings was he taking and promoting filthy lucre?" What do you mean by "promoting filthy lucre"? Where did that come from? Is that a typo?
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
        
        Vladimir, you implied that taking pay for ministry work is a form of filthy lucre. Certainly you know that Paul sometimes did so and encouraged that elders get paid; double pay for teaching elders. Of course, if you keep to the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine and Covenants, perhaps you don't know this. But, you should, because like I said, this but one of many departures from the inspired Word of God – the Holy Bible – Mormons are guilty of.
        
        Greedy for filthy lucre is descriptive of someone whose MOTIVE in preaching the gospel is to make money, as with certain shameful televangelists. It has nothing to do with honest men who are provided the financial means so that they can devote full time to preaching the gospel.
        
        Peter's accusation
      - Vladimir
        
        Actually, I didn't know that Paul encouraged that elders get paid. What was the going rate for preaching in those days? Did they get time and half for overtime or where they on salary? Did they get paid in filthy lucre or temple money? Where's that in the Bible?
        
        It certainly isn't in any of our "additional" scriptures.
      - Vladimir
        
        Peter said feed the flock. Christ said to feed His sheep. In each case they were addressing current of potential shepards You have set yourself up as a shepard, but you solicit money from the sheep. And what you feed them is weird opinion mingled with scripture. Your criticism of the U.S. Constitution is absurd.
        
        If you think being accused of preaching for filthy lucre is slander, stop soliciting filthy lucre and prove you aren't preaching for it. It was the Lord who provided the means for the early Apostles (Paul) and others (Elijah) to subsist while serving the Lord. Give Him a chance to provide for you. Stop bugging the sheep for money.
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
        
        Once again, you choose to libel me. In over 35 years of ministry, I have never once solicited money. Moreover, currently all but two of my 24 books are available as free downloads from our web page. Furthermore, I make all of my hard copy books available free to anyone who cannot afford the suggested donation.
        
        You have yet to acknowledge your error regarding the Biblically correct interpretation of "filthy lucre." Either do so or please be consistent and accuse the Apostle Paul of the same sin you've accused me of. To do neither is to prove your own dishonesty.
        
        That Doctrines and Covenants identifies the secular, humanistic, anti-Christian, polytheistic enabling Constitution as divinely inspired is but more proof that Mormonism is false religion.
      - Vladimir
        
        You have not been libeled. You have a donate button on your website. You have received solicited donations for 35 years. You preach and you solicit money. If you don't want to be accused of preaching for money, stop soliciting money or stop preaching. Doing both at the same time is exactly what Peter told the early church leaders not to do. What separates you from certain shameful televangelists? The amount of money they make vs what you make?
        
        Remember, Christ told the rich man to give away all that he had and follow Him. The rich man couldn't do it. Today men become rich by claiming to preach of Christ, but they preach their own doctrines, like the U.S. Constitution is bad and they twist the scriptures to squeeze out meanings to prove their positions. You aren't turning people to Christ, you are turning them against the Constitution. You haven't be libeled, you've been outed.
      - http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland
        
        Evasive tactics again! Why should I expect any less than this from an antichrist Mormon? Your view is distorted because of your unbiblical Mormon doctrine. Once again, you refuse to answer the questions. Either your doctrine must be renounced or consistency demands that you likewise libel Paul. You will do neither because you're a cultist and truth will therefore always be sacrificed on the altar of your Mormon doctrine before you would ever sacrifice Mormon doctrine on the altar of of sacred truth.
        
        Unless you decide to repent of your cultism and come to the Christ of the Bible, I'll waste no more time with you. If I can help you in this regard, you need only ask.
      - Vladimir
        
        I believed I asked you where you found out that Paul wanted Elders in the church paid for preaching the word of God.
        
        I'm waiting for your answer. I am not evading you, you are being unresponsive.
        
        As for calling Mormons a cult, we're use to it. It is usually what happens when folks like you want to change the subject. The original error you made was twisting the scriptures to fit your idea that if voters voted for a candidate that sinned while in office, they would share in his sin.
        
        Then you took offense that I pointed out that you as a preacher solicited money just as everybody else in the billion dollar ministry industry and that Peter warned church members not to preach for filthy lucre. You countered that your motives were pure, but I further irritated you by pointing out that you were still doing what Peter warned against regardless of your motive.
        
        Your nutty preaching topic that the U.S. Constitution is evil is pure baloney. That document affords you unparalleled freedom in the history of man and you trash it.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        There are so many people posting on this site who need to forget about judging othere and take a good look at their own lives. The hate displayed here is unbelievable and the name of Christianity. We need to stand back and think about this hate, for a while and see how unCHRISTlike it is and do something about it. Stop trying to fool ourselves that we are doing it for HIM. HE would never expect us to display such hate in our advising. and correcting.
      - Justmyrtle
        
        Anti-judging posts are very unpopular with those who live to judge others, but seldom to look at ourselves and make proper judgments there. Somehow it is hard for us to realize that we are not perfect examples of living according GOD'S WORD. What is our rationalization about what our sins are?.
      - Vladimir
        
        Justmyrtle, I'm not sure what you are saying. Neither Ted or I are judging each other because we don't have any authority to mete out anything. I can't throw him in jaid and he can't bring a swarm of locust on me. We are disagreeing on elements of religion that we see differently.
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- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon
  
  If you use Google Chrome, it will allow you to post longer statements.
JeremiahToday

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- Vladimir
  
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Myrtle

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