Comments on: Steal a soundboard, start a ministry?

By: Deep_Thinker

Deep_Thinker — Mon, 07 May 2012 13:48:50 +0000

That has nothing to do with contracts, but with property rights. Rape and murder harm anothers personal property, their body.

Of course, this depends on if you believe in natural rights. I for one do not believe that someone gives me a right.

I suggest you read Lysander Spooner – Constitution of no authority.

By: bighoss

bighoss — Mon, 07 May 2012 02:33:30 +0000

Coming from someone who embraces a fully-baked and crusted over, ultra-fictional crackpot theology like Mormonism, that critique, whether or not accurate, lacks credibility.

By: bighoss

bighoss — Mon, 07 May 2012 02:29:52 +0000

I'll take "WE THE PEOPLE over WE THE CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST THEOCRATIC DOMINIONIST nutjobs any day!

By: buenpastor

buenpastor — Sun, 06 May 2012 18:03:54 +0000

Pastormike,
He doesn't sound jealous to me. He sounds like he is concerned for the people that attend MHC that are following
a "personality" and who should be Bereans by testing what they are being told by what scriptures says. I also find
it interesting that you, Pastormike, focus on the bloggers statement about Marx yet are silent about Driscoll's admitted
theft. If you are the pastor Mike from Mars Hill then shame on you…you are no better than the leader of your cult.

"Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees" and "Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth my Father’s will which is in heaven" and in another place "Thou shalt not steal" "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and TEACH men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall observe and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven"

At the very least you too should be able to see that Mark Driscoll is bragging and boastful about taking the sound board.
Driscoll claims that God audibly called him to minister to young men. In this "ministry" to young men he is implicitly saying to them that it is justifiable to steal if you are stealing for Jesus. He is saying that Jesus winks at his theft because somehow it was for the greater good of Mark Driscoll's God anointed "it's all about Jesus" ministry. If you are in the "leadership" of MHC then you should have called him out to own up to his admitted sin. MHC is all about church discipline these days – why is the discipline not applicable even to Mark Driscoll? Last I checked stealing was sin just much as adultery or fornication is. "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

By: Guest

Guest — Sun, 06 May 2012 17:04:23 +0000

You are confused. The post points out that Driscoll thinks it is all right to steal – not Zionica. You could at least
read and understand that!

By: skeezicks

skeezicks — Sun, 06 May 2012 16:58:38 +0000

Wow Ralph, this comment is truly amazing. You condemn the blogger even though he is ONLY using the very words that Driscoll said (watch the video). Yet YOU somehow know that Driscoll gave back the sound board! And because you have convinced yourself in your own mind without any proof whatsoever – THAT makes it all right? Please!
"But those things which proceed out of the mouth, come from the heart, and they defile the man.
For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false testimonies,
slanders." (Matt 15:18-19)
I think that this is exactly what MHC wants you all to think. Driscoll is the anointed one and as so HE can do no wrong. He will be defended by his blind followers even when he is admitting outright theft and then he boasts to all his sheeple as if
what he did was somehow commendable because he was "stealing" for Jesus. If you would have ever attended there
and interacted with any of the members or community groups you would understand – it's all about "please us" not "Jesus".

By: Shunamite

Shunamite — Sun, 06 May 2012 16:31:38 +0000

Seriously!? What kind of response is that from a "supposed learned pastor"? Where is your theology? "Dude Theology" from The Big Lebowski? "Dude, This aggression will not stand man". So you have no problem with the fact that the guy steals and brags about it – in the name of GOD?

By: Boru44

Boru44 — Sun, 06 May 2012 07:49:13 +0000

I, for one, am not interested, Ted….. I think I speak for most of the non-brain-dead population.

By: Scott

Scott — Sat, 05 May 2012 21:47:37 +0000

Vladimir, the choice is simple. Choose Mormonism and you are choosing hell. I know a few ex-Mormons who came to their senses but I don't expect you to because you are still in the brainwashed stage. How tight do your secret underwear feel and how about that secret handshake and God, the Father having sex with Mary? Do you really believe all this heresy? If you are Mormon then that is what you need to defend and leave the Constitution out of it because you have bigger fish to fry, so to speak. I hope you find your way out of "The Church" that believes that satan and Jesus are brothers.

Doesn't it sound silly when you see it all laid out like this?

God have mercy on your soul.