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Are we losing America?

Are we who we say we are?

This is, or should be, the question of the hour — the question that ought to be at the center of our lives, drawing on and demonstrating our purpose.

All the more so now, during an election season in which the White House has instituted a policy that puts unprecedented limits on the constitutional right to freedom of religion.

A conference at the Pontifical Academy of the Social Sciences, a Vatican think tank, yielded some related thoughts and warnings. The conference was convened in order to prepare for the 50th anniversary of Pope John XXIII’s encyclical Pacem in Terris. The Pontifical Academy was founded in 1994 and is meant to facilitate a continuing dialogue between faith and reason, and between the social sciences and the social thought of the Church. The latter provides — in the words of Mary Ann Glendon, president of the Pontifical Academy — “criteria for judgment” and “guidelines for action,” always keeping “the human person at the center of concern.”

To an American sitting in on the conference, some of its sessions amounted to a warning siren. A “religion of humanity” has taken hold of supposedly enlightened opinion and increasingly guides the judgments and actions, private and public, of people in the West, especially in Europe, cautioned Pierre Manent, a professor at the Centre de Recherches Politiques Raymond Aron.

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  • Deep_Thinker

    Well when the vast majority of Americans care more about American Idol, hollywood, sports etc. than the people who are running Amerika into the ground, what do you expect?

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      Isn't interesting that average Joe will tell you a whole swaths of statistical data about baseball including batting averages of some gay from decades ago but he will have no slightest idea how many amendments there were and what they were designed to accomplish?

      • daves

        The effort for a United World is a noble cause striving to reduce war and suffering.

        • keyboardshark

          daves says: "The effort for a United World is a noble cause striving to reduce war and suffering."

          No, the idea of a 'United World' is just a smokescreen for a socialist takeover of the world's population, and its money, by eliminating the concept of national sovereignty. It is nothing but the elitist's way to exercise their power and control over the masses on a global scale. The elites would get rich on the backs of the rest of us, and capitalism, which is the only engine of economic freedom, would suffer greatly.

          • Evermyrtle

            You are absolutely correct! What you forgot to say was, "They are trying to get rid of our GOD, HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, AND THE HOLY GHOST, which is an impossible task, it can't be done."

          • keyboardshark

            Yes, good point. A world government would certainly want nothing to do with the God of the Bible.

      • keyboardshark

        I would venture to say that more people can name Santa's reindeer than can name the 12 Apostles or remember all the Ten Commandments.

        • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

          At least the reindeer names are consistent. The same cannot be said for the disciples: the gospels list a collection of more than twenty names for the so-called twelve disciples – with Bartholomew sometimes showing up as Nathanael, Matthew as Levi and Jude as Thaddeus, Lebbaeus, or Daddaeus!

          • keyboardshark

            Jeff says: "…the gospels list a collection of more than twenty names for the so-called twelve disciples…."

            Then that gives you better odds of guessing them :-)

            Actually, there is a reasonable explanation:

            "At times, names can be confusing because we use a variety of names for ourselves. There is our birth name, our common name, and our nickname. We find that happening in Scriptures. One of Jesus's apostles was named Simon, but Jesus gives him the nickname Peter (stone), but Peter in Greek is Cephas. Hence, one apostle is called by three different names in the New Testament.

            The original twelve apostles were:

            Simon, son of Jonas (also known as Peter or Cephas) (John 1:42)
            Andrew, son of Jonas
            James, son of Zebedee (nicknamed with his brother, Sons of Thunder) (Luke 5:10)
            John, son of Zebedee (nicknamed with his brother, Sons of Thunder) (Luke 5:10)
            Philip
            Bartholomew
            Matthew (also known as Levi)
            Thomas
            James, son of Alpheaus
            Simon, the Canaanite (nicknamed the Zealot)
            Judas, son of James (also called Lebbaeus or Thaddaeus)
            Judas Iscariot

            This list is found in Matthew 10:2-4; Mark 3:16-19; and Luke 6:13-16.

            After Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and committed suicide, he was replaced by Matthias (Acts 1:15-26).

            Just before James, the son of Zebedeee, was beheaded by Herod (Acts 12:1-2), Jesus selected a man named Saul (later called Paul) to be his apostle to the Gentiles (Acts 9:1-22)."
            http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/0

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            << Matthew 19:28 >>

            New International Version (©1984)
            Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

            Key, you listed 14. According to Matthew, there will be 12 on thrones. Just who among the 14 will be on the 12 thrones? Why are the other 2 left out? Since Judas was among the 12 he was addressing, it is humorous to claim another would replace him.

            You also did not mention Joseph (called Barsabas and surnamed Justus) (Acts 1:23)
            or Cleopas (Luke 24:18)
            or Ananias (Acts 9:10)

            The reality is the bible mentions more than 12. Which is what I stated and what you confirmed with the list you provided.

          • keyboardshark

            Jeff says: "According to Matthew, there will be 12 on thrones. Just who among the 14 will be on the 12 thrones?"

            Two of them would sit on someone's lap :-)

            No, but seriously, it just says there there will be 12 thrones, but not 14 apostles, so we would have to assume that there would be 12 apostles to fill the 12 thrones. I know, duh. But let's think it through.

            To be consistent, we should start with the original list in Matthew 10 since the statement about the 12 thrones you quoted is also in Matthew:

            " 2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

            3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;

            4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him."

            We can automatically eliminate Judas Iscariot, because it says "you who have followed me", and Judas, while he physically followed Jesus, he was a traitor and not a true follower. He was later replaced by Matthias (Acts 1:26), getting us back to 12.

            Saul, who later became Paul, was not among the original 12 who followed Jesus, and was only called an apostle after the day of Pentecost. Joseph (called Barsabas and surnamed Justus) (Acts 1:23) never became an apostle because when the lot was cast, they chose Matthias instead:

            "23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

            24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,

            25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

            26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles."
            Acts 1

            So at that point in time, after the selection of Matthias, we are assured that once again the number is 12.

            Cleopas is only mentioned in one passage, Luke 24:18-32, and while he is not directly named as an apostle, it is implied by the phrase "two of them" verse 13:

            "13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs."

            It is somewhat of a puzzle, but we could assume that either he may have been a temporary replacement for Judas until Matthias was officially chosen, or else he was not in fact an apostle at all because of the vague language in Luke 24 in which he was never directly called an apostle.

            Ananias (Acts 9:10), is not called an apostle either, but rather, a disciple, and like Paul, was not among the original 12 who followed Jesus::

            "And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord." Acts 9:10

            So we still have 12 apostles to fill the 12 thrones.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            "It is somewhat of a puzzle, but we could assume"

            It is a puzzle because the story makes no sense as written. That is why you always have to make assumptions about what the story is really about.

          • keyboardshark

            Jeff says: "It is a puzzle because the story makes no sense as written."

            No, it is a puzzle only because there are not enough details given to form a conclusion. But since we know that the Emmaus Road incident occurred before the appointment of Matthias, it does not matter, because at that time we are given the information that there are 12:

            "26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles."
            Acts 1

          • bighoss

            Of all the silly irrelevancies you have loaded onto this forum, that one stands out as perhaps the most ignorant.
            keyboardshark's straightforward explanation shows just how witless and puerile your inane cavil is.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Bighoss, you believe in a book that claims snakes and donkeys can talk and the sun can stop in the sky. You believe that if cattle mate in front of a striped stick it will result in striped offspring. Your opinion of what constitutes ignorance is humorous.

          • Evermyrtle

            How many names do you have? I have four and will answer to any one of them. Most married women do have four names, while most men have 3 names, two given names and one sir name, plus many have a nickname, also. So what is the difference?

  • Bobseeks

    Perhaps "always keeping the human person at the center of concern” is the problem. GOD and His will should always be at the center of our concern and lives. When that happens, everything else just falls into place.

    • Deep_Thinker

      Unfortunately the two are intertwined (human person and God) when we live in a world of evil and until Jesus returns to us.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        I am not sure how "intertwined" fallen sinners can be given that they are separated by sin from Holy God. On a level of bearing His marred image – imago dei perhaps but no more than that.

        • Deep_Thinker

          I'm basically saying you can't just live your life without a care in the world about what is going on around you. Jesus said, go out into all nations, not seclude yourself from them. If Christians would stop hiding in the corners, and instead do as God commands, maybe things might get better.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Things will be precisely as God mandates them to be. His will and its accomplishment is not depended on anyone's performance including that of Christians. God declared the end as well as He declared the means to that end.

          • Deep_Thinker

            Yes, his ultimate will is going to be accomplished, but again, that doesn't mean let's just stick our head in the sand until that day. I am not saying it is dependent on the performance of Christians, and I knew when I wrote "maybe things might get better" that I was stretching a bit. Things won't get better, we know that.

          • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

            Agreed then.

          • tbone

            I think Despeville and Deep Thinker need to exchange monikers. lol.

          • flatspots479

            To begin with, we have in this country the wrong people at the steering wheel. With a change of administration we change the subject. I think the majority of Americans would enjoy that. We have dwelled on that touchy feely sort of stuff to where I am void of emotion and near hostility wanting to get on with life and out of this ditch of equality advancement like a horse race with all the horses being named "Offended". Offended on the outside of "Offended" and "Offended" by a nose. With this administration has come a free for all with winy b tches from every minority class including the extreme non believers of anything. Currently it's a war on Mormons. I know little about Mormons and could care less with the exception that Romney better

          • flatspots479

            win. We have guidelines and boring grey as they might be they serve a purpose. Non believers or those that only believe in government as the higher power and shouldn't be offended at the cross. If they are void of God then too they should be void of thoughts that are related to God. Many evidently believe in hatred as they go out of their way to be offended. I am of the live and let live guidelines in life.
            Four more years of thisadministrationn spells the end of this country. If the last four are to be like the next four then I too hope for the end to it.

          • tbone

            The end of this country is in God's hands, not the President's hands. There is nothing going on in our country that God cannot handle in His ways. He sees all and is still on the throne. We must start to put our faith and trust in God and not our political system. It matters not who gets into the WH this Fall. God's Plan for our nation will be carried out.

      • Bobseeks

        You are not a Christian not-so-deep as your posts on other articles prove. You obviously believe that people can't compare the whole of your posts to your occasional false claims of being a Christian.

        • Deep_Thinker

          Show me one sentence I said that would prove me to not be a Christian?

          God will surely look down upon those who are so quick to judge their brethren. Only God can look into the heart and know who will be saved.

          • Bobseeks

            Not-so-deep: You are not my brother and I am not judging you, I am only stating the truth. Your posts in defense of the evil of islam prove that you are not a Christian because a Christians abhors false religions and speaks out against them. By the way, those who falsely claim that they are being judged are almost always those who are trying to hide the fact that they are not truly Christians.

          • Deep_Thinker

            Luke 6:27
            “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

            Mark 12:31
            The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

            Romans 10:9
            Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

            I do believe in Jesus as my savior, so I'm wondering how I'm not a Christian?

          • Bobseeks

            It is obvious from your defense of islam that you have nothing of Christ in you. You are most likely an atheist troll posing as a Christian.

          • Deep_Thinker

            I didn't defend Islam, I said we should help rather than harm those who are of islam…

          • keyboardshark

            If you want to help Muslims, show them the only true way to salvation–the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You are not 'helping' them by being an apologist for their destructive beliefs. They need to be delivered from the eternal darkness of Islam, not encouraged to continue their participation in it.

          • Deep_Thinker

            I agree. Though not all Muslims believe in those destructive beliefs.

          • tbone

            he does know the scriptures, Bobseeks. Give him credit for that.

          • evermyrtle

            Dear Deep…………., Remember that when you call someone a non Christian, because they do not agree with you! You do know a tree by the fruit it bears but before we judge others, we need to take a look at our own trees. Sometimes my tree looks sort of ragged, so I am very careful who I call a non-Christian!!

  • MEG

    If we only could treat one another with kindness, we all know that this would be a better world. We all know that there is much good as well as evil in this world since the beginning of time. What our government leaders need to do is be honest, truthful, caring and not thinking of being elected, and self centered. Americans you know in your heart those who truly love America and those who only want power and think of themselves. If your religion teaches you to cheat, not be honest, hurt one another, then you need to search your heart and find a religion that is loving and caring! It doesn't take a John Nash to know this!

    • Winston

      MEG, you're viewing the world through rose colored glasses and not reality. Most world leaders (if not all) are personally, politically, and power corrupt, ego-driven lovers of self. Their hearts (whether they understand it or not) are following Satan, not God.

      • evermyrtle

        When we teach or discuss other sinners, there is no need to "bust their chops!" That is GOD'S place, not ours. We need to be gentle enough o be able to get through to them,not drive them away. There is no need to force "our wonderful, unscathed, perfect opinions" on them, just try to lead., "DON'T DRIVE, LEAD !" Remember, we are sinners, too!

    • tbone

      John 13:35 "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

      This scripture alone should be the church's motto.

  • MEG

    I just want to add one more thing……………ask yourself why America was founded in the 1st place?

    • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

      30 years war in Europe was of massive importance…

      • tbone

        I wish people would quit thumbing down Despeville. He's a very knowledgeable fellow. At the very least, respect him for that.

    • keyboardshark

      Why was America founded?

      ""Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these present solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience."
      (Mayflower Compact)

    • Evermyrtle

      It probably take two books to explain that one. The things that GOD allowed HIS people to suffer, to be able to discover and settle this country, where over the about 500 years of being the land of the brave and the free, billions have found and worshiped GOD AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, while we have slowly sunk in depravity. Still, we have so many Christians who live and strive to do HIS will, today.

  • http://twitter.com/lambsev11 @lambsev11

    We are losing ourselves, we are America, yes? No?

    • http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman

      Instead of losing ourselves, I see it as "we have become lost". The material things of our world, have made Christians become lukewarm. God will spew lukewarm out of His mouth. Our nation is being led by the ungodly, because 17 million Christians did not vote in the last presidential election. That means that 17 million Christians did not pray about whom to vote for, but decided it was they who knew best, not the Lord. Mankind will always reap what it sows, and in 2008, some very bad seed was sown. God Help Us

      • tbone

        How can anyone not take seriously our voting privileges? It's terrible what we take for granted. People fought and died for the freedoms we so carelessly enjoy. It can be taken away in a moment. All it takes is a national disaster big enough to declare martial law and put the Patriot Acts I and II to use in dealing with the so called "dissidents." Those laws were passed to take our freedoms away from us under the guise of protecting us.

  • Winston

    Yes, we who love this nation as our founders intended it to be, are losing our nation to those who want to destroy it. And it is likely this is a reason why America is NOT mentioned in the Biblical prophecies of the "last days". Many think they are going to heaven, but they will go to hell.

    • msjallen

      You are right especially since the plan of salvation is not given correctly especially "works" and do-goodism is thrown in when the Bible says all we have to do is…
      Whosoever believes in the Son has eternal life; but whosoever rejects the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him. (John 3:36)
      Eph 2:8-9 For you have been saved by GRACE in the past with the result that you continue to be saved forever through faith; and this salvation is not from yourselves, it is a gift of God; not by works, that no one may boast.
      Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved…”
      Hear the gospel, understand the gospel (through the Holy Spirit) and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.

    • tbone

      There are many countries not mentioned in biblical prophecies. Maybe because the countries that are mentioned are actively involved in end time events. There won't be a nation that stands up for righteousness in the end. All will turn a deaf ear toward God.

  • guest

    With JEWISH Influence In Our Public Schools, Academia, The Tv, The Press, It's No Wonder (HOLLYWOOD TOO'!) That OUR CHRISTIAN Country Is In The Stage Of Collapse…….The Jewish Influence In Americas Culture Is One Of PERMISSIVE SOCIETY……..ANYTHING GOES…..OPEN MEXICAN BORDERS, AMNESTY, REVOLUTION (BOLSHEVIK HISTORY OF THE JEW) THE SDS (1960-70s) Are All Formed By Jewish Radicals''''''FACT………….LOOK IT UP"! The ACLU Is Supported By Rich Lefits Jews. Their staff Is Mostly Jewish. WAKE THE HELL UP AMERICA""""""?

    • Kalev

      Anti-Semite piece of garbage guest.

      • tbone

        unwelcome guest. lol.

    • tbone

      Why are the Jews always the scapegoat? I think its because they are God's chosen race.

  • guest

    America Is A Christian Nation…..Always Was From Plymouth Rock….Thru George Washington…………Forget About The Jew…. He, Has Since He Was Allowed On Our Shore's Has Given Away America's Secrets To COMMUNIST Karl Marx Communism. (USSR) (They, The JEW Killed An Orthodox Christian In Mother Russia.The Czar. Also Jesus Christ'!) (THE BOLSHEIK JEW) LOOK IT UP……! http://www.realjewnews.com

  • msjallen

    We are a secular nation with many Christians and people of different religious beliefs but we are not a Christian nation even though our founding fathers used Biblical principles in setting up our government. However, we are a Client Nation for God. A Client Nation is assigned the responsibility for the formation, preservation, communication and fulfillment of the Canon of Scripture. Even though our Nation was built on Biblical principles that most Christians today know nothing about; it is not ALL Christian. Also, Christianity is not a religion; it is a relationship with Jesus Christ. If we were a Christian Nation we would NOT allow other religions to exist here just like the Muslims do not allow Christianity to exist in their countries. It is not who is in power that matters; it has to do with Christians who are growing in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and applying Biblical principles to their lives each day. Then our Nation will be cleansed from most of the evil that is upon us. How can we call this Nation a Christian nation when most Christians do not follow God’s mandates?

    • bighoss

      msjannen, you say:

      "If we were a Christian Nation we would NOT allow other religions to exist here just like the Muslims do not allow Christianity to exist in their countries."

      Now YOU show ME just where in the Bible (that you profess to follow) there is any justification whatsoever for that kind of exclusionary arrangement.. Never mind what Muslims do or don't do. That is not the issue. YOU show ME where there is any Biblical authority for disallowing Muslims or disallowing adherents to any other belief system in this country. I am waiting.

      • Deep_Thinker

        Amen!

      • Kalev

        If you yook the time to read Torah you would find that Israel was not allowed to have other religions in their mist but were to utterly destroy them. But you foolish Christians claim Torah has been done away with and live anyway you choose thinking God doesn't see the lawlessness of modern Christianity.

    • Kalev

      Yes we are a secular nation and America was lost in 1871 due to the Act of 1871. Search "Act of 1871" and read about it for yourself. It was completely lost by the 1960's due to liberalism and socialism and we are now a National Socialist (Nazism) ruled nation now.

    • tbone

      I think what you are trying to say is that we are not a Theocracy, like Iran is. That would make more sense.

  • msjallen

    Psalm 37:1-10 Do not fret because of evildoers, be not envious toward wrongdoers. For they will wither quickly like the grass and fade like the green herb.
    (As Christians, we are mandated to follow God’s Word to live the Christian way of life. This is the only thing that will strengthen our Nation so God will bless us.)
    Nahum 1:3 – The LORD is slow to anger and great in power And the LORD will by no means leave the guilty unpunished. In whirlwind and storm is His way, and clouds are the dust beneath His feet.
    Psalm 33:10 The LORD nullifies the counsel of the nations; He frustrates the plans of nations. The counsel of the LORD stands forever, the plans of His heart from generation to generation.
    Jeremiah 17:5 -Thus says the LORD, “Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength, and whose heart turns away from the LORD.

    • bighoss

      If THAT is an attempt to answer my challenge to you, above, msjallen, you have utterly and miserably failed.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        She always does preferring Russian roulette with the Bible and her "great and many notes" from the best teacher in the world who is the only one knowing "original languages" whom she studied under "since 1972"… Sad indeed.

      • http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

        She always does Hoss. Always, preferring her bible roulette… Sad.

  • Victor Barney

    It's GONE! Next: Expect the two-witnesses of Revelation, chapter 11 to destroy u.s., save 144,000, 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes, excepting Dan, replaced by one of Joseph's boys. It also is written that that more gentiles than anglo-saxons will survive this time and it will be our CREATOR that DESTROYS U.S., NOT ISLAM! No? WATCH, especially beginning September 16, 2012 on the Israelite Feast of Trumpets(war)! p.s. Did you know that the ONLY HUMAN ever mentioned in the Bible not in the Bible already is called the "FORBIDDEN FOREIGNER" of DEUTERONOMY 17:15 and that Obama IS THE "ONLY" NON-ISRAELITE EVER TO RULE OVER ISRAEL FOREVER IN HISTORY? That's like 6,000 years! WOW!

    • Kalev

      The Feast of Trumpets is September 18th 2012, get your head out of that made up Rabbinical Hebrew Calendar and start observing the new moons in Israel to set the dates for His Holy Convocations.

      • Victor Barney

        We'll talk again someday, and you'll even like me less then. Watch!

  • http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman

    The saddest statement of all: In the last presidential election, 17 million Christians did NOT vote. When faced with a situation of opting for the lesser of two evils, it is an imperative duty of all Christians to opt for the lesser of two evils. Staying home sitting on ones hands because you wish to make a statement, is nothing less than irresponsible. One day, at the foot of the throne, the Lord will ask you to justify the things you did and did not do. An absent vote is still a vote, think about it. 17 million absent votes is why we have a Godless administration in America today.

    • Deep_Thinker

      I don't vote for anyone to have power over another… Voting is acceptance of a system in which a majority can impose their will on the minority, essentially making the minority slaves to the majority. If you want to support that, great. I do not. An absent vote is a vote against theft, slavery, and tyranny. I think Jesus would be proud of that, not ashamed.

      • Kalev

        So anarchy works better for you Deep_Thinker?

      • http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman

        For a self acclaimed "Deep Thinker", that has to be the most shallow answer and attitude I've ever heard. You are not a Deep Thinker at all, you are simply a person who shirks their civic duty, and I doubt very seriously that Jesus looks kindly on those with your attitude of non-committal. To bad, your answer just proves that you actually rarely think things through, and that once again you vote without the Lord's input, and you evidently do not seek the Lord's wisdom before writing. God Bless You. Hope to hear you when Jesus asks what you did to help make the world a better place.

    • Kalev

      The lesser of two evils is STILL evil. Do you seriously think God wants that?

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        Since Christians believe that ALL men are evil sinners, how can you not be ending up with the lesser of two evils no matter who the candidates are?

  • http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman

    The only thing evil needs to succeed, is for men to stand by and do nothing. Not voting, is doing nothing but allowing evil to succeed. Can you not see that? God expects his children to do the best they can. Is not voting doing the best you can? Or is it ignoring the evil around you, hoping it will some day leave on it's own? The lesser of two evils, is rarely as evil as the first. Not voting because of a lame excuse like that, is nothing less than a cop out, and a turn your back on your fellow man. God will honor neither of those. Bless You

  • keyboardshark

    Jeff says: "You can not automatically eliminate Judas Iscariot."

    While it is true that all he did was ordained by God, it was also ordained by God who would sit on the 12 thrones (either literally or figuratively). When the final 'shakeout' happened in Acts 1 with the appointment of Matthias, replacing Judas, we did indeed have 12 names, and beyond that point in time, there is no additional information to indicate that the composition of the 12 was ever changed again.

    In other words, Judas was thrown out at the plate, and was ejected by the ump (God) for flagrant violation of rules. His name was scratched off the lineup card, and Matthias came in to pinch hit for him, and was then made a regular. Joseph (Barsabas) never made the cut and was sent back to the minors.

    Since John was the disciple whom Jesus loved, he batted cleanup. Peter was the leadoff batter because he was always first to speak out. Paul sometimes filled in as the DH. Matthew, Philip, and Bartholomew pitched the starting rotation, and Andrew was the closer.

    How do you like that for a season-appropriate explanation? :-)