What the Evangelicals Give the Jews

Many Jewish voters this November will find themselves at a crossroads: Will they accept their deep disappointment with Barack Obama and vote for his reelection, or will they overcome their own discomfort with Christian evangelicals and vote for the Republican candidate? The irrepressible argument about the appropriate relationship between the Jewish community and Christian conservatives has returned with a vengeance, forcing a fresh response to a fundamental question: Should Jews view our born-again fellow citizens as natural allies or inevitable adversaries?

Unfortunately, the familiar grounds of this debate rely for the most part on inaccurate assumptions and proceed inexorably to illogical conclusions.

Advocates of cooperation and coalition-building—call them Collaborationists—cite Christian evangelicals as an indispensable source of support for Israel, without whom U.S. policy in the Middle East could easily tilt toward the Palestinians and Arab nations more generally. According to the Collaborationist argument, Jews and evangelicals should ignore profound differences in their core values and put aside sharp disagreements on American domestic issues in order to make common cause against the existential threat of Islamofascism.

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Bobseeks

Any Jew who votes for a democrat is a fool and a traitor to his or her people.
- http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
  
  Yet this is precisely what Jews have done in all past elections and for example 78% of Jews voted for Obama…
  
  "Since 1928, the average Jewish vote for the Democrat in presidential elections has been an amazing 75%—far higher than that of any other ethno-religious group."
  
  More from WSJ: http://on.wsj.com/KmL3K
  - daves
    
    False Dilemma – Giving two choices when in actuality there could be more choices possible.
    
    Example: Will they accept their deep disappointment with Barack Obama and vote for his reelection, or will they overcome their own discomfort with Christian evangelicals and vote for the Republican candidate?
    - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
      
      I am presenting facts and not hypotheticals. The record shows that they vote liberal and massively at that…
      - Dennis
        
        Thats because they are liberal democrats duh.Its their mindset and that should tell you something right there.When will people wake up
      - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
        
        Thanks for this revelation… they vote liberal because "they are liberal democrats"… :)
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        Isaiah was sent Ch 6. to Jews who are blinded hard hearted, and can't see!!!!!!!!! therefore they vote Democrate
- SGT US ARMY
  
  today the democrats are really the new communist party with a mix of the Nazi ideas to control the masses. it was a slow take over of the party since the unions were infiltrated by the communist party way back in the 40's-50's, the power and influnce has grown to a point where thepeople do not even notice, they could never take over the republican party like they did the Dems, to much freedom lovers in it ! my mothers parents suffered under hitler and they saw the slow take overof their country Austria, just as Obama is doing. He has appointed a media czar which is a propaganda minister. the people that escaped from Russia has told that this is the exact way that the communist took over and made the people want the Govt to control them and spread the wealth, sound familiar !!!
Israel

As you mentioned, we evangelicals support Israel, no question about it. I don't believe Jews will be voting for Obama for a second term. Obama is not for America, he is an "IMPOSTOR"
- Deep_Thinker
  
  Why is that? Israel has no evangelicals. Jews aren't Christians. This dispensationalist belief is false doctrine.
  - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
    
    Indeed.
  - http://twitter.com/lambsev11 @lambsev11
    
    Some Jews have received Jesus. Some call them Messianic Jews, they were called Jewish Christians or Christian Jews at one time.
    - Deep_Thinker
      
      Yes, and they are the black sheep in the Jewish community, no Jew would ever look at them and say they are Jewish. You can only be one or the other.
      - bighoss
        
        That, however, does not prevent Jews in Israel from taking full advantage of the dispensational premillennialists'
        disordered conception of the role of Israel in eschatology. The Israeli government skillfully plays them for all they are worth.
      - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
        
        Look at that Mossad pawn Hagee: http://youtu.be/U1B_DaANv-8
      - Guest
        
        You are right bighoss. Israel will take what they can get from Christians in America, but their own feelings toward Christians, as this article points out, ranges from ambiguous to hostile. An old joke – What is every Jew's favorite hymn? Onward Christian soldiers. And they overwhelmingly support Obama; anyone who denies that is just as ignorant as a typical democrat themselves.
- keyboardshark
  
  Whether we believe Israel still has a special place in God's plan or not, we still need to support them from a purely practical standpoint, if nothing else. They are the only party poopers who are preventing the complete Islamization of the entire Middle East, so we should at least support them as a buffer state against such a takeover.
  - Deep_Thinker
    
    Why is that? Do the other states not have a right to choose their own religion? Should we support the bullying of small nations that have not thrown one stone at Israel or the US by occupying their lands? I highly doubt that Israel cares about our Christian values. I also highly doubt that it's any of our business what other countries choose as their religion.
    
    If you want to be a missionary to one of those nations, go ahead. But don't try and justify war against them.
    - keyboardshark
      
      deep_Thinker says: "Do the other states not have a right to choose their own religion?"
      
      Of course they do, but when that 'religion' results in the death of millions of innocent people and causes them to issue edicts for the complete destruction of other nations (Israel, USA), then we had better be very concerned about the spread of said 'religion', namely, Islam.
      
      " I also highly doubt that it's any of our business what other countries choose as their religion. '
      
      It most certainly is our business if that religion becomes the basis of their hatred toward us, and hope for our utter annihilation.
      - Deep_Thinker
        
        The "religion" did not result in the death of… – People kill people, not religion. You really are that naive to believe that if we hadn't occupied their land to begin with, they would have attacked us?
        
        Their religion is an excuse for the uneducated like yourself to believe a reason as to why they would want to hate us. They hate us because of the destruction we caused by bombing their innocent citizens in the first place. We occupied their land. They didn't attack us first, as they were living in peace. We have no business in another country, simply because their religion might not tolerate us. Until they actually do attack us, we have no right to infringe on their beliefs, no matter what they are.
      - keyboardshark
        
        Deep_Thinker says: "People kill people, not religion."
        
        Of course people kill people, but you cannot ignore the fact that what a person has in their mind is influenced by what their worldview is. If their worldview or ideology teaches that it is acceptable to kill infidels, as they define them, then that is what is likely to be in their minds. And statistically speaking, those who hold the Muslim worldview are more likely to kill innocent people than the average.
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        Twin towers???????
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        The Muslims are killing people world wide , but the USA should sit in a corner quite as a mouse, ,,,,,LIKE most churches, (Quite as a mouse)
  - Evermyrtle
    
    All who rally accept JESUS CHRIST is in HIS Grace and will stand with HIM in he end! How many of us will be standing with them for JESUS CHRIST.
    - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
      
      Would you teach me here and show me ONE instant in NT of this asserted by you "accepting of Jeus". ONE please…
      - Pastor Dwayne
        
        Jn 1 : 12 But as many as received Him, received is the very same as accepting Him, YEP free will under the , and under the conviction of the Holy Ghost……………..That is ONE,,,,,,, that is ONE and many others.
        I'm curious Des ,,,, How do you build yourself up in the faith, show me scripture??????????
Buck

I do not know the " going " version of evangelical , however I am a Southern Baptist Christian and I " LOVE " the Jews as we are all commanded to love gods chosen . If they have a problem with me I can;t help it but I have no problem with them except in trying to understand why they vote for the demonrat party .
- Evermyrtle
  
  I will bless those who bless bless my people,Israel and i will curse those who curse them.
  - http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
    
    Is plus 1.7 million Arabs with Israeli passports in that group according to your theology?
    - Evermyrtle.
      
      My theology can be found in Genesis 12::3 And I will bless them that bless thee,and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed
      
      . My wording a little different but the meaning the same, the scripture applies to all generations following Abraham which include all Israelites.
    - Pastor Dwayne
      
      Des there are the lost tribes of Israel ALL over the world , many of them Arab, Assyian
  - Deep_Thinker
    
    Sounds like something from the Old Testament covenant with the Jews. WHICH IS NO LONGER IN PLACE.
    - Evermyrtle
      
      Perhaps that is true for you. Most of us refuse to throw any of GOD'S word away or iyou could say "trash it!!" We won't do it, but you are free to do as you please.
- Mark
  
  God does not care about race, only dispensationalists and Jews and other biggots do.
http://twitter.com/lambsev11 @lambsev11

To understand the Jew and Israel better I recommend this book: Future Israel by Barry E. Horner
- http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
  
  I recommend the well known book – The Bible:
  
  "For he is not a Jew, which is one outward: neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew which is one within, and the circumcision is of the heart, in the spirit, not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of God."
  
  ~ Romans 2:28-29 Geneva Bible
  - Kelly
    
    Amen! The HOLY BIBLE is the Only book to read!!!!!!! You will get every question that you have by reading GOD'S WORD, THE HOLY BIBLE!!!!!!!
  - bighoss
    
    I, too, will take the Bible over Barry.
msjallen

Yes, I am a premillennist and I believe the Bible teaches that God is not finished with His chosen people. Those who become believers in the Church Age are no longer considered Jews but Christians.
Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you. (The Nation of Israel had not been established at this time but Abraham became the Father of the Jewish nation.
Jeremiah 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, and declare in the coastlands afar off,
And say, “He who scattered Israel (5th Cycle of Discipline 70 AD) will gather him and keep him as a shepherd keeps his flock (During the Millennium).”
Zech. 2:8 For thus says the LORD of hosts (armies in Hebrew), “After glory He has sent me against the nations which plunder you, for he who touches you, touches the apple of His eye”.
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
- http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville
  
  I say you are well past any cycle,particularly of reason…
- Evermyrtle
  
  To be truly a Christian, you must accept JESUS CHRIST, AS SAVIOR AND SON OF GOD, that is what makes you a Christian!!!. Simply ain't no other way!!!
Dennis

Please show me the blessings we have received after israel became a state in 1948? Show me where they have preached to the world that YESHUA MESSIAH(JESUS CHRIST) is messiah and YHWH incarnate? You wont.They hate him and are still waiting for their messiah.Show where they evangelize the rest of the world? Again you cant because they dont.They keep there knowledge to themselves.You people are blind and are leading others straight into hell.
Juanita Gilbo Ricard

I think alot of Christians have forgotten our Savior was born a Jew. If it were not for the Jewish People there were be no Christianity. Christian means Christlike. Jews who have accepted Jesus as their Messiah are called Messianic Jews. We need not sit in judgment on anyone because we do not know what is in their heart. There are many, many Jewish people carrying the message of Jesus Christ to the unsaved world. If a person is showing forth the fruits of the Blessed Holy Spirit as spoken of in Galatians chapter 5 then they are Christian. if not then pray for them so they will change, but do not sit in condemnation on them. Remember Jesus said that those who hurt God's people (Jewish or otherwise) will be hurt. Those who bless them will be blessed.Love the Jewish people as God has loved you. They are your brothers and sisters.
http://youtu.be/zjgBhpanOfQ Despeville

'I think alot of Christians have forgotten our Savior was born a Jew. If it were not for the Jewish People there were be no Christianity.'

Really? I guess God really lucked out then. What would he do without those sinners and in this case with Jewish ones…
Wow.
Winston

As Christians we are to bless Israel (but not necessarily the actions of the "Jews"). In Genesis chapter 12 (v 2,3), God is telling the "nation" of Israel (the land which God set apart for the Jews) they will be blessed…not the individual Jews. And in v. 3, the message is to all who will bless the "nation", that if they do so they too will be blessed. Much of America are anti-semitic, but Bible-believing Christians should be blessing the nation of Israel.
- Evermyrtle
  
  AMEN!!!
Flaciusii

Not all Evangelicals support Israel. only certain types.
Jeanene

The Jewish nation will always be God's chosen people but his son born a Jew gave his life for everyone. I firmly believe if we turn our backs on Israel and God's people we as a nation will suffer. We need to remain her ally and friend.
Our current President has snobbed Israel taking her leader through the basement of the white house on his first visit during Obama's administration. Obama supports Palestine over Israel. But the Lord will have the final word not our President. The Lord stands by his people even when he disciplines them tto bring them back to him. Through out history he has disciplined them for fall away by let other nations defeat them. But He brought them back as a nation in the six day wars which was unbelievable what they as a nation did in regaining their land. Their God given land. I stand with Israel as a Christian.
Luong

Without us Christians, there would be NO Israel! PERIOD!!! And how do these ungreatful Jews return the favor? BY HATING US!!! So why should we support them & look like the fools that we are?
- BOB
  
  All YOU are doing is SLAPPING GOD in the FACE with that COMMENT. He has took them threw every terrible period in history With or without any HELP from other COUNTRY'S . Give credit where it belongs.
BOB

I don't know why JEW'S would vote for a MUSLIM any way. He doesn't support ISRAEL He doesn't even support AMERICA. RUSSIA'S PUTIN would have made a better PRESIDENT then OBAMA. This Liberals are wacko's any way.the ONLY thing they are for is to DESTROY OUR SYSTEM of GOVERNMENT and being dishonest. WE CHRISTIANS LOVE JEWS because they are GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE and SUPPORT THEM.