Muslim soldier guilty in Fort Hood bomb plot

Walking around a gun store one day last summer, the young man never took off his sunglasses as he asked questions about items he piled on the counter — behavior that struck the manager as odd.

Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo had already traveled hundreds of miles since going AWOL from Fort Campbell, Ky., three weeks earlier. He bought a gun from an online seller in Nashville and paid cash for thousands of dollars of bomb-making components at a major Dallas-area retail store. Trying to avoid being caught, he wore a baseball cap and sunglasses most of the time, never used credit cards while staying in motels and traveling by bus or cab, and he had his roommate's driver's license.

But his luck ran out in Killeen, a city about 150 miles southwest of Dallas and near one of the nation's largest Army posts — Fort Hood. Guns Galore manager Cathy Cheadle "just had this feeling" about him. She and an employee talked about it and then called police — who had Abdo in custody less than 24 hours later at a motel, where authorities say he had started to build a bomb. Police hadn't even known his name or background until they detained him.

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petroskhan1262

Do we really need any more proof that muslims should not be in our military?

The tenets of the muslim "religion" are in complete opposition to what this country, and the military, stands for. Time to stop pandering to these lunatics, and give them boot, before more harm is done.

And I hope I am not the only one surprised that this guy was caught with child pornography. Seems to be part of their religion…
- Deep_Thinker
  
  Tell me, what does our military stand for? Is our military a "Christian" one? Are we allowed to discriminate those who want to join?
  
  You sound like a rick santorum radical, who thinks others should be slaves to your ideology!
  - Hoot
    
    Evidently you have NEVER been in the military. At induction, you swear an oath to uphold the CONSTITUTION of the United States and to defend it against ALL enemies, of which radical Jihadists are the prime enemy. Rick Santorum, BTW, has more pride in the American way of life than you seem to have. Thank all the VETERANS who have died over the centuries to allow you too make your errant statements.
    - Deep_Thinker
      
      Actually, I was an 11 Bravo for the Army.
      
      And yes, we are to defend the US against all enemies, including those inside the United States Government. But as your words said, we are to "defend". I don't think invading Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, Pakistan, Libya, North Africa, etc.. is defense against an enemy. Sounds more like Imperialism.
      
      Futhermore, I wonder why we have those enemies? Is it because we are Christian? Nope, many other Christian nations are not being attacked. Is it because we are free? Nope, we aren't even in the top 5 for being a free nation. And the ones ahead of us are left alone.. Hmm I wonder if it has anything to do with us being occupiers of sovereign lands?? Doesn't take a genius to figure out that'l land you some enemies real quick.
      
      I will thank the veterans who all gave back their medals at the NATO summit in Chicago last weekend. The veterans you speak of represent the corporations and monied interests of this country. God has given me freedom, not our military.
      
      The american way of life is freedom, not coercion as Mr. sanitarium believes.
      - Vladimir
        
        Deep_Thinker, you said, "I wonder why we have those enemies? Is it because we are Christian? Nope, many other Christian nations are not being attacked."
        
        Bad, argument. Historically, Islam battles any non-Islamic country it borders. Jews and Christians have been made the enemy of Islam by the Quran. We are being attacked precisely because we are the preeminent Christian nation.
      - Deep_Thinker
        
        Vlad, bad argument, WE (THE US) BORDER IRAN!
        
        That is why we are being attacked..
        http://www.qwmagazine.com/2011/12/13/image-us-mil…
      - Vladimir
        
        We don't border Iran. Throughout history the countries that border muslim states were in conflict with them more often than not. Now that wars are no longer fought on horseback but can be done with ICBMs and sleeper cells every Christian nation is in conflict with Muslim countries whether they want to admit it or not. The goal of Islam is to take over the world and Christians and Jews must be wiped out or converted.
        
        So you are wrong, Deep_Thinker.
      - Anonymous
        
        The US has over 20 bases right around Iran.
        
        It's time to end the foreign occupations!!!
      - Vladimir
        
        "Occupiers of sovereign lands"?? "corporations and monied interests of the country"?? "I will thank the veterans who all gave back their medals at the NATO summit in Chicago"???.
        
        Are you by any chance the smelly occupier I had a run in with last week?
        
        By the way, you have your freedom thanks to the military.
      - Deep_Thinker
        
        Others should not have to give up their freedom, for us to enjoy ours.
        
        I have my freedom thanks to God. And as the "old right" conservative Robert Nisbet said so well:
        
        "A great deal of the spirit of localism, of grass roots, and of pluralism that had characterized so much of American reform thought … disappeared with the war. A very different spirit, rooted in the centralized power of the national government and which in a sense took war-society minus war as its ideal of planned economy, replaced the older one.
        
        Nothing has proved more destructive of kinship, religion, and local patriotisms than has war and the accompanying military mind. Basic social institutions can, on the incontestable record, survive depression, plague, famine, and catastrophe. They have countless times in history. What these and related institutions cannot survive is the transfer of their inherent functions and authorities to a body such as the military …"
      - petroskhan1262
        
        Now, on THAT, I agree 100%.
      - Deep_Thinker
        
        Do we not attack sovereign nations before they have attacked us? Because they "MIGHT" have a weapon.. Or they Might do something?
        
        Killing innocent civilians should not make Christians feel good about their nation.
        
        I suppose you think it's ok for our government to spy on us, hold us in prison without habeas corpus, kill citizens without a trial, and occupy other lands?
      - Vladimir
        
        You have a weird idea of freedom. Who gives up their freedom for us to enjoy ours? This country doesn't rob people of their freedom, unless you consider their desire to destroy us is their freedom.
        
        Attacking sovereign nations before they attack us is preemptive. In this day of nuclear weapons, it is imperative that countries that intend to attack us are persuaded not to do so, by lethal arguments when necessary.
        
        The death of innocent civilians is on the conscience of the ones who want to use war for their evil agendas.
        
        You have your freedom because you are blessed enough to live in a country with a Constitution that protects your liberties.
        
        What lands do we occupy? Generally we only ask for enough space to bury our warriors who have died there to free others.
        
        Just how much deep thinking do you actually do? Your narrative is definitely liberal.
      - Deep_Thinker
        
        You think we live in a free country? Ha. Our founding fathers would have a heart attack.
        
        Preemptive is another word for "offense". Pre-emptive is based on a subjective judgment and immoral. There is no defense of aggression as defense.
        
        The death of innocent civilians is on our consience, as we kill them.
        
        The constitution doesn't grant rights or liberties, it merely tells the govt what it can't do. My rights are from God, and the property in my own person. They are not granted from a document.
        
        What lands do we occupy? I won't bother with such a nonsense question..
        
        "died there to free others" – so we are the police of the world? It's none of our damn business.
        
        You think every way that was started was only for "freedom". You also hug blindly to the wrong idea that Democracy = freedom. Democracy is legalized slavery with the majority holding the minority slave to their views.
        
        I suggest you do a little more research before you answer with such patriotic propoganda nonsense.
  - blackhawk
    
    No. He is a realist.
  - petroskhan1262
    
    Actually, to clarify your last point first, if I may: I have NO idea what Santorum stands for. If I had to choose right now, I would vote for Ron Paul. And I don't think anyone should be a slave to any ideology, unless it is by choice.
    
    And I didn't imply, or intend anyone to infer, that I was making any sort of religious statement in regard to our military. (By the way, if you did indeed serve, thank you for your service). What I was referring to was the expansionist, intolerant ideology of islam. It brooks no compromise, tolerates no other viewpoint, and seeks to replace all religions and governments with its own guidelines and ideologies. This is incompatible with service in our military, or to our country. People who follow this so-called "religion" cannot, by the very nature of islam, be true to the oath one takes to defend the Constitution, when a fundamental goal of the "religion" is to replace the very government you are swearing to protect.
    
    You can be a loyal American, or you can be a muslim. One cannot be both.
    - Deep_Thinker
      
      I can be a Christian, or a Muslim, but not both.
      
      But not all Americanism, is compatible with Christianity..
      .
      - petroskhan1262
        
        Specifically…??
      - Vladimir
        
        Specifically…??
      - Deep_Thinker
        
        Idolatry: The US does have a national religion: Money.
        
        Pride: The United States of America is a country full of pride, some of which is not unjustified.
        
        Selfishness: America is very much a "me" country
        
        I won't even mention state sponsored murder, theft etc…
  - Wayne
    
    Think a little deeper… Even IF we were not a Christian Nation or military, would it be smart to accept known haters of Christianity and America into our own Military? Yes, the war we fight is against MUSLIMS. It sure is not against Buddhists, or Harrie Krishna, Christians, or Atheists. It is the Radical MUSLIM who calls a HOLY WAR against America. Now I do not want any muslims (radicalized or not) in my military. If they are not yet radical, what is to keep them from becoming so? If they are radical, why would they tell you? KEEP ALL MUSLIMS OUT OF THE MILITARY. In fact, send all muslims to a country where they can practice their own sharia law. We do not want sharia law or muslims in America!
- Roy
  
  We do not need thm in the USA at all along with all the other illegals.
  - petroskhan1262
    
    No argument there. Anyone here illegally, or NOT here to help make this country better, should leave.
http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

The question we should be asking is "Why Muslims are in our Military?" And the answer is: Amendment 1's anti-Bible, anti-First Commandment, anti-Christianity freedom of religion provision.

For more, see "Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitut….
- Vladimir
  
  Freedom of religion is good, Ted R. Weiland's droning on about the U. S. Constitution is boring.
Evermyrtle

First of all, I am a Christian, secondly I am a Mother and Grandmother, Thirdly I am an American. My GOD tells me in HIS word that I have a right to defend myself, my family and America. To do this, with GOD'S help and leadership I will do whatever is necessary. I will not worry about what others think about this, just so long as I am working within GOD'S plan for me and those concerned.
- Deep_Thinker
  
  Ya, even if it means killing thousands of innocent civilians..
  
  And if you understood what defense meant, it means to ward off attack.. It doesn't mean, attack. It's people like you who are simply brainwashed and think you have more of a right to live than anyone else on this planet that are the problem.
  
  "Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along … That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." — Hermann Goering
  - petroskhan1262
    
    Problem with what you said there is…muslims DO want to attack. They DO want to destroy our way of life, for the simple reason that it is different from theirs. We do not follow their "religion", and are therefore evil, in their eyes. If we left them alone, they would NOT leave us alone, because their "religion" demands that they force their way of life upon us.
    - Deep_Thinker
      
      Unfortunately we have no proof of that until they do. It's all subjective viewpoints, that yes, a lot of people hold.
      
      But we have no right to invade their liberty, until they invade ours.
      
      Also, Islam is the new enemy, used to get us to back the wars. It wasn't always the enemy, as Panama, Serbia, Columbia, Vietnam, etc. demonstrate. It's the new boogey man, and I'm not as afraid as most of the sheeple.
  - Evermyrtle
    
    Oh, no, no,no. I do not plan to kill thousands, No o o o !!
    
    I had no idea! Thanks for telling me. I have been fending for my self for the last 25 of my 82 years. I wonder why I did not learn, what defense means. I guess I should have gotten a clue from my late husband since he was in WWII.
    - Deep_Thinker
      
      Well you obviously didn't seeing as though you think pre-emptive action is defense..
      
      I suppose to you Iraq is "Defense"..
      - Evermyrtle
        
        You haven't a clue when someone is making fun of you.
      - Wayne
        
        Hey Dumb Thinker, defense can easily extend to foreign soils. We did not fight WWI, WWII, on our own soils, but we recognized that if those countries were to lose the battle, we would be next in line for attack. So, we fight on foreign soils to protect our own soil.
      - Anonymous
        
        I believe in WW1 and WW2 we were attacked first, hence, defense.
msjallen

Since Muslims are taught that non-muslims need to be destroyed, they should not be allowed in our military. Of course the left will disagree because they believe that everyone should believe the way they do. As a Christian and a conservative I believe a certain way but I do not expect others to believe the way I do. I am to be ready to give an answer of the hope that is in me when I am asked. Live and let live and live your life as unto the Lord. Muslims don't care how we think or believe. THEY want us to believe the way THEY do. I find it interesting that THEY want to push their religious beliefs on the world but don't try to push yours on them. Since it is a Satanic religion ruled by Satan and influenced by Satan and many possessed by Satan they can't think beyond their own cursed mentality. The only thing they will respect is force against their powers.
http://Almerina.stevens.com Laura

How is this chat group missing the similarities between this situation and the last ARMY coup de tau'? Where is the press? I thought we had a free press in this country and all I am finding on line, w/o using underground softwear, is BS that this is a roughe soldier. Balony. Personally, I don't buy it and I will not participate in being baited into Muslim-bashing sponsored by the U.S Army, {Corps of Engineers}, used to be called the Foriegn Service.
- madmemere
  
  Laura-Don't need any "baiting"- -if you like them so much, move to the middle-east.
madmemere

Fort Hood again?? Wonder how this guy is related to Nadal Hassan, other than political motivation! You remember Hassan – -he's the one who killed 13 and wounded I don't remember how many others, all while screaming "allahu achbaa" at the top of his lungs. That incident is what the presidential impostor want to call "workplace violence"! Here's a suggestion- -quick, positive and inexpensive; take obama-soetoro, hassan and abdo, throw them into a rattlesnake pit and walk away. Next day, come back a bulldoze it in! A fitting ending for a "bunch of snakes" and when we catch any more, give them the same treatment!
Bradley A Harris

It is time the military discharge all Muslims from active service. Muslims have one intent that is eradicate Jews and Christians.
We can not continue to be so politically correct , it will be this nations downfall.