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On the Way Down

When I was a child, I thought that living through a degenerate period would be great fun – one big party. Guns blazing, fast cars, beautiful girls, plenty of adult beverages – at least that was my idea of it from having watched movies about the Roaring Twenties with James Cagney. Now, as an aging adult, I really am living through such an era, and it's not fun at all. In fact, it's depressing.

However, I do take solace in my role as a cultural pathologist. It can be amusing to observe the level of absurdity to which things go when moral principles have been reversed. The logic is usually impeccable and the consequences inexorable. Only the results are insane.

The celebration of “rich diversity,” however, is not diverse enough to include those who have not shared in the moral reversal – that would include the observant followers of every major religion. Those religions, including Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, hold that homosexual acts are morally repugnant. Therefore, their teachings must be privatized, while homosexuality is publicized and celebrated. Of course we can't blame the poor homosexuals for all of this. First came the embrace of divorce and contraception. Once sex was divorced from procreation, the rest became more or less inevitable. If serial polygamy is okay, and contraceptive sex is okay, what could be wrong with a little sodomy? I only wish there were survivors from the 1930 Lambeth Conference, which first endorsed a limited use of contraceptives, who might be forced to attend the Gay Pride event at the Pentagon, so they can dwell upon what it hath wrought. Just as there's no such thing as being a little bit pregnant, there is no such thing as a little compromise on moral principle.

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  • http://www.divinenewsnetwork.com Min. Thomas Allen

    The storm is coming…

    Matt. 24:32-35, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (KJV)

    • Pastor Dwayne

      Amen, some one with understanding!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Pastor Dwayne

        the fig tree, being Israel restored in 1948 PS 102.16

        • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

          The only feeling I ever want to have is just this,—I want to feel that I am a sinner and that Christ is my Saviour. You may keep your visions, and ecstasies and raptures, and dancings to yourselves; the only feeling that I desire to have is deep repentance and humble faith; and if, poor sinner, you have got that, you are saved.

          Why, some of you believe that before you can be saved there must be a kind of electric-shock, some very wonderful thing that is to go all through you from head to foot. Now hear this, "The word is nigh thee, in thy mouth and in thy heart. If thou dost with thy heart believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and with thy mouth dost confess, thou shalt be saved."

          What do ye want with all this nonsense of dreams and supernatural thoughts? All that is wanted is, that as a guilty sinner I should come and cast myself on Christ. That done, the soul is safe, and all the visions in the universe could not make it safer.

          ~ Charles Haddon Spurgeon

          • DWoodPC

            Hi Despe (please use quotation marks like this:)

            “When I heard and read with wondering eyes that whosoever believed in Christ Jesus should be saved, the truth came to my heart with a welcome I cannot describe to you. The doctrine that He would keep the feet of His saints had a charm indeed for me.

            I must confess that the doctrine of the final preservation of the saints was a bait that my soul could not resist. I thought it was a sort of life insurance—an insurance of my character, an insurance of my soul, an insurance of my eternal destiny. I knew that I could not keep myself, but if Christ promised to keep me, then I should be safe for ever; and I longed and prayed to find Christ, because I knew that, if I found Him, He would not give me a temporary and trumpery salvation, such as some preach, but eternal life which could never be lost."

            ~ Charles Haddon Spurgeon

        • Evermyrtle

          You are correct Dwayne!!!

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            "pastor" this affirmation from a Mormon masquerading as a "Christian" will doubtlessly affirm your falsehood just as affirmation by a papist does. Congratulations on your company.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            If that is the case, i'm in better company than you. The problem with you is , as far as the RCC got track, calvinism went the other way, Way of track.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            In that case you are an apostate who prefers man's myths than God's truth. Your acknowledgement of that is binding before God.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            NO, I prefer God's truth, over your total misconception of God's salvation!!! God offers a GIFT , (Salvation) to us , we must accept, ( receive) , or reject His gift , there is no such thing as irresistible grace, there is to many contrary verses. And
            By the way I've learned this through life,,,, when you call a person apostate, lier, plagerism prturest, and all the names you call me, I can possibly understand it, but when I see you calling everybody on this site the same names, what I have seen in life, the person that is doing all the name calling ,you in this case, is the person in reality the names are applied too.
            You doctrine came into being in 1550-1650 AD. As I have said before ALL scripture has to agree. You can take NY SCRIPTURE or several scriptures and build a doctrine, but it has to agree with all scripture concerning the subject!!!!

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            I don't call everyone liars for there is people who know the truth here and from whom I learn too like Eric, like Joe and others so cut this propaganda designed to make you feel better. You are too ignorant and too dishonest to even notice that what you believe on salvation is a copy of Roman Catholic beliefs but then you will go and argue with Roman Catholics when you in fact have no basis for doing so for you in the end believe the same thing. You are ignorant and inconsistent and inconsistency is a trademark of falsehood.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            'By the way I've learned this through life,,,,"

            You have not learn a lot and your "spiritual earthquake causing gifts" etc are seriously questionable if not useless given that you line up with Evermyrtle and without realizing and understanding that she is a Mormon pretending to be a Christian spreading a net of evasions and lies and for months. You have no discernment at all and God have mercy on the people you confuse every week.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            If my belief on salvation is a copy of RC BELIEFS , you have just proven to me beyond a shadow of a shadow of a doubt, you are completely clueless what being born again is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Little devil, you are not in charge of that so stop lying and serving your boss satan.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            "in charge of born again" , Des I am not in charge of that, you are correct, But I and all other CHRISTIANS are fruit inspectors. When whomsoever disagrees with your doctrine, whomsoever is called by you, every name in the book, your fruit stinks, because it as turned to rotten.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            There goes that unconverted mouth again

          • myth buster

            Since you are an unrepentant blasphemer who curses the Flesh and Blood of Christ and brags about it, we all know what your words are worth. You are an ignorant and unstable person who distorts the Scriptures to his own ends and lies about it. You lack even the most basic understanding of the Scriptures, so you launch irrational charges of heresy and idolatry.

    • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

      "The storm is coming… "

      It has been coming for the last 2000 years and you have no clue for how long it will be coming too. Did you read another leavenjellycal fad of "The Harbinger" ?

      • myth buster

        Catholics can see it, too. Even Jews know that the coming of the Messiah is near, despite not knowing Him.

        • Despeville

          Really? Can you quantify that "near" or you just want us to guess as you do?

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Read the parable of fig tre in mt 24 , mk 13, luke 21 and the generation that sees that happen will tell you how near it is!!!

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            People having saying it is near for 2,000 years. They have always been wrong. People who believe it will happen in their lifetime will also be wrong.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            2,000 years ,,, that is because each generation of Christians were taught to always be looking for the Lord's return . So they were looking for a sign of His return. weather, disease ,tribulation. and on and on

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            Wow, they were looking for weather and disease? I am sure that was difficult to find over the past 2,000 years.

            The reality is the verses show that the people who lived when Jesus was supposedly killed believed he would return in their lifetime.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            That is exactly what they were taught to do, look for his return, the Apostle Paul looked for Jesus' return.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            weather and disease were just examples

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Priest Dwayne, can you explain to us how an unbeliever can look to Christ's return???

          • Pastor Dwayne

            I don't know how will you ?? Men's hearts will fail them for fear of what is coming on the world,

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            You don't know but you advocate what you do not know and what Scriptures say it is impossible for a fallen men to do. Another proof for your mishmash of inconsistent myths of men mixed with the Bible.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."

            ~ Sixth Session, Canon IX
            Council of Trent of the Roman Catholic Church

            So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.

            (Romans 9:16 ESV)

          • myth buster

            And James 2:24 says it is not by faith alone that we are saved, for faith without works is dead. If then, we "believe," but do nothing because of that belief, it is worthless, and that faith does not save.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Sure Leftbehinder Dwayne… It was 40, years when that did not work then it was 70, then maybe 80 and then maybe 100. You deluded people play roulette with the Word of God and that is a form of idolatry.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            worse than that is the utter ignorance of the doctrine of calvin.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            You are an idolatrous man who worships a golden calf of "free will".

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Des, Ask your self, If I were God , would I want a bunch of ROBOTS worshiping me, or people worshiping me of there own free will, that has thru the power of the Holy Ghost transformed there lives.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Here is your Roman Doctrine that you follow too Priest Dwayne:

            "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."

            ~ Sixth Session, Canon IX
            Council of Trent of the Roman Catholic Church

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Where do I stand by faith alone????? There is a big difference of a persons own will , verses a persons own will being motivated (convicted of sin by the Holy Ghost) once again you don't have a clue what the Holy Ghost Born Again experience is , you are just like the Roman catholic , who know the right words to say about your profession of faith, you know the right words to say. but not Born Again . You probabilly drink beer and other drinks, cuss a little right.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            "you are just like the Roman catholic "

            Listen to me little devil. Do not parrot me and do not lie. It is me who denies the damnable teaching of Rome as to your and their golden calf of "free will" so your apostate lies only testify to the utter irrationality of your claims. You are not in charge of "born again" attestation committee. God is and His words you deny and undermine by your damnable pelagainism and Roman arminianism as referenced and showed here.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            "in charge of born again" , Des I am not in charge of that, you are correct, But I and all other CHRISTIANS are fruit inspectors. When whomsoever disagrees with your doctrine, whomsoever is called by you, every name in the book, your fruit stinks, because it as turned to rotten.
            Your TULIP doctrine is false , for there is way to many scriptures to the contrary on all issues of the TULIP, and all you can say is that verse doesn't mean what it says, then your filthy name calling starts.
            I will have no more of your filth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • myth buster

            We are not Arminians, for we predate them by 1500 years! We are the Catholic Church, the Church founded by Jesus Christ who testifies to the teaching of the Apostles. We do not believe that it is possible for a man to avoid sin completely by his own power, as Pelagas believed, but you attack a straw man.

            Now you listen to me, heretic and blasphemer. You teach doctrines of demons, which curse the Eucharist that gives us Life, and call Christ a liar who could not prevent His Church from falling completely into heresy. You claim that St. Athanasius was at one point the only Christian who held fast to sound doctrine (you are wrong, but suppose you were right): you therefore attest that St. Athanasius did teach sound doctrine, and you claim that no one else did. Therefore, you must either accept St. Athanasius' teaching, or you claim that the Church was entirely given over to heresy to the last man, which would betray the promise of Christ that the Gates of Hell would never prevail against the Church, as well as the inspired words of Mary that the Lord has mercy on every generation. Quite plainly, if God is faithful, the Church cannot disappear from the Earth, for in that generation the Gates of Hell prevail and God has no mercy, which is contrary to Scripture.

            Very well, let us examine what St. Athanasius taught. This is St. Athanasius's teaching on the Eucharist:
            You shall see the Levites bringing loaves and a cup of wine, and placing them on the table. So long as the prayers of supplication and entreaties have not been made, there is only bread and wine. But after the great and wonderful prayers have been completed, then the bread is become the Body, and the wine the Blood, of our Lord Jesus Christ. ‘And again:’ Let us approach the celebration of the mysteries. This bread and this wine, so long as the prayers and supplications have not taken place, remain simply what they are. But after the great prayers and holy supplications have been sent forth, the Word comes down into the bread and wine – and thus His Body is confected. Source: http://classicalchristianity.com/2011/02/10/patri

            As you can see, it's plainly Catholic. Is this the man you uphold as the only one to adhere to sound doctrine while everyone else was an Arian? Then you must believe that the Eucharist is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ!

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            "will tell you how near it is!!!"

            So how that is that leftbehinders tell you that and they keep on changing numbers with each date passing by?
            How are you any different in this guessing games from Jehovah Witnesses who do the same?

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Truly with your belief it would be guessing, But Jesus said we were to know the signs of the times.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Sure crypto Priest Dwayne except you and your ilk made so many false predictions already and you will continue to make them till your dying an ignorant breath.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            this is my first and will be my only prediction Jesus will come! Very true , when men try to tell us the hour and day Jesus comes ,,,, run the other way…

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Why would I or anyone care about your sinful and counter biblical predictions deluded one?
            You are sinful impostor and not a minister of the Word of God. If you would not be you would take the Words of Jesus seriously and not violate them in your carnal sensationalism.

            “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."

            (Matthew 24:36 ESV)

            As long as you are a man only you sin and pervert the Word of God by making your predictions and function as minister of satan and not of God.

          • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

            But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."

            (Matthew 24:36 ESV)

            Yet you continue to claim that Jesus is god and therefore all knowing.

          • wesley

            in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 the disciple were asking about the temple since Jesus had just told them that the beautiful temple they were asking him to look at was to be destroyed. Jesus used the Romans to judge the Jews, Jerusalem, and the temple for rejecting him as the Messiah. it all happened in a generation just like Jesus said it would. the only reason that Matthew included Jesus' coming and end of the age is it was written specifically to Jews. it should say signs of your coming judgment and the end of the old covenant for that was what they were asking about. several of those signs are found in the book of Acts. those signs that you read happen all the time; meteor showers, lunar eclipses, solar eclipses, famines, earthquakes, diseases, wars, potential wars, etc. they have been on again and off again for the last 2000 years. what makes us so different other than the church is rolling over and playing dead?

          • Evermyrtle

            Mercy, you must have talked to Matthew, to know so well why he wrote what he wrote. And you can even tell us what he should have said, instead of what he did say. I am nowhere near that good, I take it as I find it

            I have little confidence in what you say. I have listened to well known and well versed ministers who would disagree with you. By the by, I have been reading the Bible for 70 years and still not a pro.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            You are a Mormon and you are lost.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Generation has been miscalculated so many times besides this word in Luke 21:32 – γενεά [genea /ghen·eh·ah/] can mean nation, kind of people, family or nation as it can also mean the the generation but living at the very end. Neither one gives you any basis whatsoever the time of second coming of which no human knows.

            21:29-33. In the Parable of the Fig Tree Jesus taught that one can tell what is coming by watching the signs. By looking at fig leaves sprouting in April, they know that summer is near. Similarly when the Great Tribulation comes, people will know that the kingdom of God is near.
            The clause, this generation (genea) will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened, has caused much controversy. Some think Jesus was telling His disciples that their generation would see the destruction of the temple. That interpretation stems primarily from verses 5-7 in which the discussion pertained to the temple’s destruction. However, because of verse 31 (in which Jesus spoke of the coming of the kingdom of God), and because of Matthew 24:34, it seems preferable to say His words refer to the generation living at the time of the cosmological events that will just precede His second coming. That generation will actually see the founding of the kingdom of God—something every generation of Jewish citizens has longed for throughout the nation’s history.

            Walvoord, John F. ; Zuck, Roy B. ; Dallas Theological Seminary: The Bible Knowledge Commentary : An Exposition of the Scriptures. Wheaton, IL : Victor Books, 1983-c1985, S. 2:257-258

            1155 γενεά (genea), ᾶς (as), ἡ (hē): n.fem.; ≡ DBLHebr 1887; Str 1074; TDNT 1.662—1. LN 11.4 same generation, people in the same time (Lk 11:51); 2. LN 10.4 people of same kind, an ethnic group, a race (Lk 16:8); 3. LN 10.28 descendants, successive generations (Ac 8:33); 4. LN 67.144 age an indefinite time period about the length of a generation (Ac 14:16)

            Swanson, James: Dictionary of Biblical Languages With Semantic Domains : Greek (New Testament). electronic ed. Oak Harbor : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1997, S. DBLG 1155, #4

  • Evermyrtle

    The last crumb of Christian leadership has been violently cast into the sea. There is nothing lefe , JESUS s coming, soon

    • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

      " JESUS s coming, soon"

      I hope so but are you a disciple of Harold Camping?

  • victorbarney

    Part 1: Let me inform the general public that "the whole world has been deceived as written." First, the SET-APART(Holy) HEBREW-INSPIRED, NOT EVEN GREEK, LET ALONE LATIN SCRIPTURES(Bible) plainly states that "Only" Hebrew is the spiritual language of our CREATOR(Zeph. 3:9, Acts 26:14, 1 Cor. 4:6) and FURTHERMORE that ALL VERSES MUST "ONLY" BE INTERPRETED THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC PRICIPLE OF "DEDUCTION" as written in 2 Peter 1:20! Christianiy is the mere RESULT OF ROMAN PAGAN CULTURE & NOTHING ELSE!

    • myth buster

      Do you realize how absurd it is to quote the originally-written-in-Greek New Testament to assert that only books written in Hebrew are divinely inspired?

  • victorbarney

    Part 2: Petrus Galatinus came up with the name "JESUS" in like 1322 AD, or something like that, and he confirms it was done to CHANGE THE NAME OF THE JEWISH MESSIAH'S NAME INTO A NAME THE HONORED "ZEUS" because it was the ROMAN CUSTOM TO HONOR THE HIGHEST DEITIES OF THE NATIONS THAT THEY HAD CONCURRED WITH GREECE BEING THE LAST, WHICH IS DIRECTLY AGAINST THE 3RD COMMANDMENT! Now, the BEAST OF REVELATION THAT WILL BE CENTERED IN BABYLON, IRAQ is on the verge of being created & it will caliiphate with MARXIST in an attempt to destroy u.s., like England the REAL ISRAEL, NOT JUDAH(GEN.48:16 & GEN. 49:10) PROVES IT! HOWEVER, WE NEXT WILL BE DESTROYED BY THE TWO-WITNESSES OF REVELATION, CHAPTER 11, NOT ISLAM, WHO WILL NOT BE DESTROYED UNTIL OUR SAVIOR YAHSHUA DOES SO UPON HIS RETURN TO EARTH, ALSO AS WRITTEN! WATCH!

  • wesley

    you dispensationists need to read on in the third chapter of II Timothy.
    II Timothy 3:8-9 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men.
    Paul here is telling Timothy that folly of the self-righteous will be as plain as the nose on their face. what did you think when you woke up in 1989 to the news that the Berlin wall was being torn down? disbelief, disappointment for how now can the communist take over the world.

    • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

      Check it out: http://kimriddlebarger.squarespace.com
      Specially Audio resources on the right side of the page.

    • Randy131

      You know the Bible so well? Then after reading Mathew: Ch.5 Vs.20, that is in Jesus' words, explain to me again the folly of the self-righteous, for I wish to know if your definition compares to Jesus'. GOD gave us all the gift of 'Discernment', what makes you think that yours is greater than others? I respect opinions of all who seek the 'Secrets of Heaven', through Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible, but you may need to read Mathew: Ch.11 Vs.25&26, and Ch.13 Vs.10-17, to determine how you should accept and respect the opinions of those doing the same, for GOD decides to who and how those secrets are to be revealed.

      • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

        Seems to me that you have answered your own question of: " what makes you think that yours is greater than others?" with your own words of: "for GOD decides to who and how those secrets are to be revealed."

      • wesley

        anyone compares himself to others in order to determine the righteousness. we see this especially among atheist who say they are pretty good. measuring oneself against others.

    • wesley

      http://www.americanvision.com/products/The-Worldv
      visit link about and get this free mp3 download and listen to it especially towards the end of the presentation where he tells the story of Joseph Zahn who in the 1960's declared that communism has failed. when he gets to america he makes preparations to re-evangelize he native Romania after the fall of the Soviet Union. while at take a look at the other free mp3 downloads and educate yourselves about other eschatological views.

      • wesley

        the Romania pastor's name is Josef Tson.

    • myth buster

      One does not need to be a Dispensationalist in order to discern the signs of the times. The birth pangs are in our midst, and while we do not know the day or the hour, we know the Lord's return is close at hand.

      • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

        The birth pangs were here for the last 2000 years papist.

    • Pastor Dwayne

      people hate the truth and try call it dispensationalise, they call it preturests outurests ,under turests ,phlagerism pentecostalism, anything to get away from their own ignorance. yes I know spelling is bad . But if the words used is not in the bible. I could care LESS. ANNA BAPTIST who cares, is it in the BIBLE ………………

      • Pastor Dwayne

        Most of what I see in the 5 Points of calvinism is false. clvinist int heir teaching is keeping a lot of people out of the Kingdom.

        • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

          Deluded construction worker. 5 points that you do not know and never actually studied was only a response to 5 points of counter-reformation inspired and funded by Roman religion known as Remonstrance which you have never studied either for if you would you would know how much in common you have with that system.

          • myth buster

            If men are totally depraved, why did God tell Cain that he could overcome his sin and be saved (Genesis 4)?

            If election is unconditional, why does Jesus knock and wait for people to answer (Revelation 3:20)?

            If atonement is limited, how can Jesus be called "The Savior of all men, especially those who believe?" (1 Timothy 4:10)

            If grace is irresistible, why did Jesus lament that He longed to gather Jerusalem like a mother hen gathers her chicks, but Jerusalem would not let Him? (Matthew 23:37)

            If final perseverance is guaranteed, how is it that people can be blotted out of the Book of Life? (Exodus 32:33)

          • Pastor Dwayne

            remember myth buster , according to desperate we are stupid ignorant men, but we are only that because er don't believe as he does

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Sure now buddy buddy with a papist to build an alliance to placate the fact that you have no answers whatsoever. And you are calling yourself a "pastor"? You know why you suck up to a papist? It is because you have a lot in common with him and his religious treadmill.

          • myth buster

            Both of you, knock it off!

            Dwayne, unless you have been ordained by a validly ordained bishop, you have no right to call yourself a pastor. Doing so makes you a self-appointed hireling, and that is prideful.

            Desperville, you are an obstinate heretic who denies the plain sense meaning of the Scriptures no matter how much I point it out to you. You blaspheme the Eucharist and slander the saints. You imitate the apostates of old by saying, "How can this Man give us His Flesh to eat and His Blood to drink?" You repeat blasphemy after blasphemy against the Most Holy Eucharist, denying that It is Jesus and denying Its life-giving power. You do this despite repeated correction, choosing instead to slander the Bride of Christ rather than repent of your blasphemy. Have you no fear of God? Do you not know that God can cut you off just as easily as He grafted you in? Do you not realize you are spitting on your Savior while He hangs on the Cross when you mock the Eucharist? Verily, when you mock the Eucharist, you are denying that Christ is the Bread of Life and the Paschal Lamb, so you may as well have been among the crowds at Calvary saying, "If you are the Son of God, come down from that Cross!"

          • Pastor Dwayne

            I've been ordained by an ordained bishop, so I am a Pastor
            That said, if I was going to a church that has a history like the RCC, I would get out!!! Since Peter was the Apostle to the Jews there is no way for him to be a POPE , the word pope not being mentioned in the Bible. Peter in all liklyhood was never in Rome . the RCC does not preach the born from above experience. and can go on and on . such as every RCC that got truly born again , left the RCC church and began looking for a church that preached the gospel…..

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Papist your useless rants are truly pathetic as is your inability to back them up with honest reading and handling of God's Word. Your Roman sacrificial Eucharist is a feast of demons having nothing to do with finished work of Christ and Him being victorious. Vade retro me satana.

          • Despeville

            "why did God tell Cain that he could overcome his sin and be saved (Genesis 4)? "

            No such thing in Genesis 4, that is your Roman traditions that have been fused on you and not the text. There is nothing there like that and certainly not in Genesis 4:15

            "why does Jesus knock and wait for people to answer (Revelation 3:20"

            Again that is your Roman traditions perpetuated on you and sadly also on leavenjellycals and also visually by kitsch paintings of Kinkadee"s and other kitsch makers. Revelation 3:20 is not speaking about individual people but about the BODY of Christ and His church. Get a clue from the address:

            “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.
            (Revelation 3:14 ESV)

            "If atonement is limited, how can Jesus be called "The Savior of all men, especially those who believe?" (1 Timothy 4:10)"

            Atonement is limited and it is either limited to its power and therefore requiring human approval as your Roman church believes and as many clueless leavenjellycals believe or it is limited to the scope as the Gospel teaches and as some Christians believe. There is a sense that the death and resurrection of Christ is a benefit even to the unbelievers because it curbs the power of evil in their regard too but the atonement is slavific ONLY to the believers and that i why alluded by you text emphasizes ESPECIALLY in: "especially those who believe" which is the group addressed in the immediate context as BROTHERS:

            "If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed."
            (1 Timothy 4:6 ESV)

            "If grace is irresistible, why did Jesus lament that He longed to gather Jerusalem like a mother hen gathers her chicks, but Jerusalem would not let Him? (Matthew 23:37) "

            Every Arminian butchers this verse. It is not eve funny to see this anymore… Jesus did not wanted WHOLE Jerusalem but ITS CHILDREN ONLY read the text for crying out loud:

            “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing!
            (Matthew 23:37 ESV)

            This is a rebuke like the most of the chapter of the religious leaders of Jerusalem and not all people, especially those who were indeed God's Children. You seem to not understand what is irresistible grace. Do your self a favor and listen: http://youtu.be/NzzqHXgR75k

            "If final perseverance is guaranteed, how is it that people can be blotted out of the Book of Life? (Exodus 32:33)"

            That is a canard. Where does the text say that true believers will be blotted out??? It is only your tradition's assumption…

            But the LORD said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.
            (Exodus 32:33 ESV)

          • myth buster

            It is no canard. In order to be blotted out, they must be in the Book in the first place. Your other arguments are no more convincing. God says to Cain, "If you do well, you may hold your head up, but if not, sin is a demon lurking, his urge is toward you, but you can be his master." Your comment about atonement is a cop-out. Revelation 3:20 clearly addresses individuals, for it says, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear and open the door, I will come in and dine with him." Got that? Individuals, not the entire church at Laodicea.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Those are not the answers to what I presented but replay of your Roman Catholic traditions you superimpose on the text. The only thing I got is talking with you is a usual waste of time.

          • myth buster

            Believe what you will, but I warn you that it is you who teach the traditions of men, contrary to the Faith handed down from the Apostles. I am no Arminian, for the Catholic Church predates both Arminians and Calvinists by 1500 years. If you are unwilling to read the Bible for what it says, and not what Calvin tells you it says, why don't you read up on what the early Christians believed in order to get a clue?

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Hahhahaha sure papist on the chain of satanic magistrium of fallen sinners. VRMS!

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Final perseverance (guaranteed)?????? In fact, once again scripture not agreeing with your calvin doctrine, so where do you go now, simple, reexamine your doctrine.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Sure pelagian arminian. This is about you:

            "If any man doth ascribe of salvation, even the very least, to the free will of man, he knoweth nothing of grace, and he hath not learnt Jesus Christ aright."
            - Martin Luther

          • Pastor Dwayne

            no wonder Martin Luther churches are SO dead!

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Many of them are for they departed from the Reformation, betrayed Luther's exposition of the Gospel and slowly drifted into the wake of mother-ship Rome were you happily bobble too without even realizing that.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            No wonder you are stupid.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            There goes that unconverted mouth again.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Nope, you are continuing to be stuopid despite the truth of God that you ignore. That is why you believe in the first quote below and not the second despite the lip service you will offer:

            "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."

            ~ Sixth Session, Canon IX
            Council of Trent of the Roman Catholic Church

            So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy.

            (Romans 9:16 ESV)

          • Pastor Dwayne

            The truth of God as you call it, means what ever Doctrine you build , has to , has to, has to agree with ALL Scripture on that subject! The 5 point system on the Calvin belief , for instance once saved always saved, there is way to many Scriptures that don't agree with that thought.
            Ro. 9;15-16 No where in vs 16 is Paul talking of salvation. for vs 15 states God has an active compassion on whom He will have compassion.. vs 16 is stating His compassion cannot be earned, or controlled by humans. Some try to control by saying God just has mercy and compassion on some . However Ro. 11:32 states, For God has concluded all them in unbelief , that He may have mercy upon all!!! Take that vs. to mean what it says, in other words don't try to twist it around so it will fit your Doctrine!!!!

          • Despeville

            You are ignorant which would be OK for we all are in some areas but you are ignorant of God's Word while being a "pastor" and what is even more worst you refuse to obey God's Word for the sake of your traditions and preferences that you have learned OUTSIDE of God's Word and thus you have fallen away and continue to fall away. You refuse Christ's Words and His teaching for the sake of your human preferences:

            All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
            (John 6:37 ESV)

            No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
            (John 6:44 ESV)

            And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”
            (John 6:65 ESV)

          • Pastor Dwayne

            So you are saying what the bible says is traditions of men, remember you are the one following the traditions of John Calvin. which are nowhere found in the Bible!!
            Take heed, brethren ( born again people) , lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God, Once saved always saved??????? One of many like verses….

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Above verse Heb. 3 : 12

          • Pastor Dwayne

            If God chooses some to salvation (Predestination) ,in other words impossible to lose one's salvation , there would be no need for the Apostle to apply this verse to scripture! But since God in His plan of salvation has made it for man to use his free will to accept or reject God's salvation. The Apostle HAD to put this , and many other verses in the Word to warn believers of the TRUE possibility of losing their Salvation…

          • Pastor Dwayne

            So is the TULIP calvin inspired or RCC inspired??? Iv'e made my own comments concerning the tulip, which were not RCC inspired . They were Bible inspired , not your usual 160 years ago excuse.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Clueless, do some research to what Remonstrance was to which TULIP was only a short and concise response. You are largely following Roman Catholicism and your denial of it is bogus and inconsistent with vast confluence of what you believe which is exactly what Rome believes. You cannot even plead ignorance no more for you have been made aware of this. You can continue to be stupid about it but that will not be an excuse for you either as it is not for any Roman Catholics who "accepted" Christ as you did out of their "free will" too…

            "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."

            ~ Sixth Session, Canon IX
            Council of Trent of the Roman Catholic Church

        • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

          The Prayer of an Arminian and that is your prayer "pastor" of ignorant myths:
          http://youtu.be/EcOI1Nw3CTg

      • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

        "pastor" of ignorance it really looks like you have lost the track of what is the primary importance and that is the Gospel and what is of secondary of not tertiary importance i.e. end times – eschatology. This is only symptomatic for your deluded dispensationalists for whom how the world will end is more important to who God is, who man is and how a fallen man can and is justified by and before Holy God. Utter delusion and myth making no more old than 160 years old hijacked your witness and debilitated it making it weak if not useless at times.

        • Pastor Dwayne

          I haven't lost track Des, Here is what is ignorant , to believe that God will pick some to eternal life , and God will pick some to eternal death!!!!! that is ignorance .
          TULIP, T, total depravity ….. who in there right mind would think man could save himself. NOBODY!!!
          U. who in there right mind would think God would choose someone based on their own merit. NOBODY
          L, limited atonement,, Jesus died on the cross for the SINS OF THE WORLD,(the elect) NOBODY
          I, Irresistible Grace , total mistranslation of scripture.
          P, perserverence of saints once again total misunderstanding of THE WHOLE WORD OF GOD, it must completely agree with your teaching OR it is wrong.
          making my witness weak,,, I have probabally led more into the Kingdom than you could dream of.
          Oh, Des when you you received the baptism of the Holy Ghost, according to the book of acts , what was your proof of being baptized in , with, the Holy Ghost???

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Ignorant, learn first about Roman Catholic counter reformation movement inspired and funded by Jesuits and its heresies that you partly follow to understand the response to it functioning under the acronym TULIP. You are clueless, as Dr.Luther said know NOTHING of Grace and have not been taught Jesus Christ aright. That is why you thread in the wake of mother-ship Rome without even realizing that you do…

            "If any man doth ascribe of salvation, even the very least, to the free will of man, he knoweth nothing of grace, and he hath not learnt Jesus Christ aright."
            - Martin Luther

          • Evermyrtle

            Pastor Dwayne, just ignore Desperateville. He loves to ravt on calling people, when he has nothing else to say, not worth arguing with .

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Thanks , And I also have lived the same number of years…

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Yes, ignore the Bible like you do and listen to crypto Mormon and Roman Catholics as you did and for your faith is closely resembling the faith of a Roman Catholic and their idolatreous teaching about the golden calf of man's "absolute free will":

            "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."

            ~ Sixth Session, Canon IX
            Council of Trent of the Roman Catholic Church

          • Pastor Dwayne

            The only council I listen to is the true word of God,

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            'when he has nothing else to say, not worth arguing with ."

            @Evermyrtle,

            Sure Mormon like I never ever quote primary sources from the other side, including from your Mormon books of lies which you purposefully ignored and ignore mumbling about "Jesus" who is completely different person from the One that saves.

  • Wayne

    The torment of the soul by the evildoers of the earth. That is how I see these unrepentant sinners who force their evil upon the people of the land. We are now expected to have a party in honor and celebration of their sin! All sin is evil in the eyes of the Lord, but the twist now is that the sinners expect us to inwardly participate in their sin by giving our full heartfelt consent. I deny them their joy of seeing me give consent to their unrepentant sinful activities. If it comes to that, I would rather be imprisoned than to consent to their filthy activities. Why not honor the child molester, crack addict, alcoholic, hateful murderers or anyone else who is under a sinful addiction. These people are attempting to turn otherwise good people into sinners by telling them they MUST accept their chosen sin. What will the thought police do in the land of freedom of speech, expression, life, and liberty? How long until Jesus comes again?

  • Grampa

    This is the way that God made the world: The next generation (the near future) belongs to those who first, see with biblical eyes, next actively apply God's word to the problems around us, and then rest in His providence. This is all you need to know about the future! The more you participate, the more optimistic you will become – so trust god for the future and pitch in and help in the present!!

    • grampa

      And, I forgot to add this: the 5th commandment is absolutely necessary to grasp a biblical vision of the future.

  • myth buster

    The Greek New Testament renders the Lord's Name as Iesous, which is rendered in Latin as Iesus and in English as Jesus. Furthermore, this is not a corruption: Iesous is how you transliterate Yeshua into Greek:
    Yod is transliterated into Iota.
    Eta is an interpolated vowel.
    Shin is transliterated as sigma (Greek has no "sh" sound, so "sh" is rendered as "s")
    Omicron is an interpolated vowel.
    Waw is transliterated as upsilon.
    A terminal sigma is added as a Greek convention for names.

    • Pastor Dwayne

      I really like studying the original Aramaic, as it goes all back to the 1st centurey!!!

      • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

        I can bet that you cannot read one sentence in Aramaic despite your notion of "studying" it… :)
        Ask yourself "pastor" why Jews made an official translation of OT into Greek LXX – Septuagint 300 years before any hypothetical and fictional dates for Peshitta and 500 years as it is real and documented…
        Ask yourself too "pastor" why Jesus and His disciples is quoting from Septuagint too…

      • Pastor Dwayne

        and is the original language the new testament was written in!

        • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

          HOGWASH… There is no proof for that at all "pastor" of ignorance and Peshtita is only a copy dated at the earliest in 250 AD full TWO HUNDRED YEARS LATER after the initial letters composing the New Testament. Your ignorance and idolatrous mythology is staggering.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Amid persecutions, the ancient Church of the east, through God's help and protection, was able to keep these sacred writings of the old and new Testaments in the Biblical lands in Persia and India! Therefore Peshitta should not be confused with the 5 century Bible revisions in Aramaic and new versions which were made from the Greek. None of these new revisions and versions made by the Monophysite bishops in the 5 century has ever been accepted by the Church of the East. More over, these bishops who left their church, and joined the Greek church and produced these versions for theological reasons so that their doctrine might agree with the Byzantine church , which was the powerful imperial sect, were expelled by the Patriarch of the church of the east , and their works were condemned . ( will continue when possible )

          • Pastor Dwayne

            (Their works were condemned ) continuing , However in some provinces owing to the pressure exerted by the Byzantine emperors , these new revisions were introduced . But when the territory was occupied by the Persian government , they were destroyed.
            Had the Pishitta been made by order of one of the rival churches, the others would have rejected it . But since all Christians, even the Moslems, in the midle east accept and revere the Peshitta text, it proves beyond a doubt that it was in use many centuries before the division of the Church
            The originality of the Pishitta text is strongly supported by early evidence .

          • Pastor Dwayne

            continuing , Aphraates quoted it, St Ephraim wrote a commentary on it,and the doctrine of Addi placed it at the Apostolic times.

          • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

            Garbage without one proof…

          • Pastor Dwayne

            In your slow translation of change in your life , will that change ever get to your mouth???

          • Pastor Dwayne

            look up the doctrine of Addi and see the proof!

      • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

        The Prayer of an Arminian and that is your prayer "pastor" of ignorant myths: http://youtu.be/EcOI1Nw3CTg

        • Pastor Dwayne

          After reading the true 5 points of calvinism, and seeing the error of it , I would much rather be Arminian than calvinistic

          • Pastor Dwayne

            What ever an Arminian is!!!!!!!!!!

          • Eric

            "After reading the true 5 points of calvinism"

            And what exactly are these? What "true" 5 points did you read? If it was anything other than the declaration of the Synod of Dort, you have not read the actual five points. Also, understand that these 5 points were in response to the initial 5 points of students of Jacob Arminius.

          • Pastor Dwayne

            I've heard of the "tulip", what is that??

          • Pastor Dwayne

            Calvinism is one of the worst cases of PRIDE I have seen……

          • Eric

            TULIP is a popular summarizing of the five points, but you really need to read the source of the summary in order to fully understand the biblical arguments that are being put forth. It must be remembered that the Synod of Dort (an ecumenical council of sorts of Protestant scholars and pastors), after much debate and study, declared the five points of the Remonstrance (Arminianism) as heresy. This wasn't something that was taken lightly or ignored.