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Most Evangelicals Disapprove of Healthcare Ruling

The U.S. Supreme Court upheld today the entire Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (which some have termed Obamacare). In a case unprecedented in its scope, the court said Congress may require citizens to purchase health insurance because it is a form of taxation. Most evangelicals will likely be unhappy with the ruling, according to a recent survey.

In a 5-4 decision, the court said Congress acted within its power when it passed the law. Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the majority that the health care mandate for individuals acted like a tax, not a requirement to purchase a product. Congress could not impose a mandate under its power to regulate commerce, but it could raise taxes on those who do not buy insurance.

"Those subject to the individual mandate may lawfully forgo health insurance and pay higher taxes, or buy health insurance and pay lower taxes," Roberts wrote. "The only thing they may not lawfully do is not buy health insurance and not pay the resulting tax."

Evangelicals, more than any other religious group, wanted the entire health care law scrapped, according to a June poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. In poll results given to Christianity Today, three-quarters of evangelicals disapprove of the law, a number higher than any other religious tradition. Catholics and those unaffiliated with religion were evenly split. African-American Protestants were the most supportive religious group, with 81 percent approving of the law.

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  • don

    Last week my cardiologist (heart) doctor told me and my wife if obamacare is upheld she would be out of business in two years.

    • Evermyrtle

      All of the doctors that I have talked to, say the same. It will come to the place that we will not be allowed to pay our own medical bills even if we are able to do so. Excuses for this?? Because there are some who cannot pay, therefore it will not be fair for those who cannot pay. That will happen, if we are unable to kill this obamascare atrocity!! And take out the Kenyan Muslin Islamist

      • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

        Although in some instances that will occur and on a massive scale too try to also balance what docs are paying with the fact that they simply will not be making as much as they did before and that is the real reason they are whining now. I am not for Obamacare for it will degrade the quality of medical care in a long run but try to be balance sometimes in what you hear and say…

    • I love my country

      My wife's place of employment heard the owner of the medical practice (10+ doctors) state: wages will be cut and benefits the company was giving (above and beyond) to the employees, will be gone. That wages will actually go down, not just no more raises. Welcome socialist Europe, and Shariah Law, you don't comply, you pay (Mohammad's law back then) with increased taxes, a historial fact.

  • A. Reginald

    Unfortunately African Americans have been duped by the Democrat party. This occurred when the Republicans voted for the Civil Rights act and Lyndon Johnson took the credit. All of a sudden the Democrats saw a potential voting block and managee to get the useful idiots Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to pursueade the rest of the crowd to turn Democrat. Under Martin Luther King Jr. they had tended to be Republican. It is also unfortunate that the elite of the Republican party have deserted their own ideals and turned into RINOs.

    • bighoss

      Wrong. Read Robert Caro's excellent biog of LBJ. Johnson is due enormous credit for the Civil Rights Act . He persuaded enough southern Democrats to support it to get the legislation through.

      Whatever is left of any "elites" in the Republican Party is minuscule. The GOP is the party of "NO". The GOP has no real goals other than to run the President out of office and crank the tax structure to favor the rich.

      • mesamanp47

        Your biases are blinding you from realizing the fact that history has many interpretations. Even if LBJ gets some credit for the civil rights act (which is questionable in itself), his actions regarding the Viet Nam war is at best, reprehensible and puts him in a class with Jimmy Cawtah, Billy Bob Clinton, and NoMobama. Now these are biases that I can be proud of.

        • bighoss

          I do not approve of how Johnson or this nation handled the Vietnam matter, but that is a subject entirely apart from the civil rights issue. I point this out since it appears that you are incapable of understanding that for yourself. Johnson's conduct of that war has nothing to do with any biases on my part. I was not attempting to construct a report card for the Johnson administration. I was merely giving Johnson credit that he is entitled to relative to civil rights, as Mr. Caro did.

      • dwoodphd

        bighoss said

        "The GOP is the party of "NO". The GOP has no real goals other than to run the President out of office and crank the tax structure to favor the rich."

        Gee bighoss…why would anyone say "no" to the likes of you; here is what you have brought about: http://www.westernjournalism.com/dems-admit-obama
        and http://www.westernjournalism.com/american-muslims
        bighoss, you are no patriot.

        I pray for your Christian education to stand for right, i.e. your repentance in these matters.

  • http://www.divinenewsnetwork.com Min. Thomas Allen

    "In a 5-4 decision" Thats nice… but where is the people of the united states vote on this matter? I love how they make decisions for the people without the people having any say. Whats next? Can't buy or sell without the mark?

    • Evermyrtle

      I would like to know who voted how. I have a fairly good idea but cannot place every vote.

    • Evermyrtle

      It should come up in November on the ballot, so that we can ll vote on it.

    • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

      The people did vote. They voted to put enough liberals in Congress and one in the White House to push this legislation through in the first place.

  • BOB

    OBAMA will be known in HISTORY AS THE SOCIAL PARASITE PRESIDENT. We have millions out of work. CORPORATIONS CLOSING THEIR DOORS. The only thing He has done is give the FEDERAL BANK AWAY TO INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS AND THEY TOOK THE MONEY OVERSEAS. WHAT WAS LEFT GAVE TOO WELFARE PROGRAMS. THAT ALL FOLKS !!!!!!!!!

    • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

      Indeed but just so you know Federal Reserve Bank is no more "federal" than Federal Express is…

  • bighoss

    Most evangelicals do not obtain their information from any kind of a balance of sources. They listen to sources such as James Dobson, the deplorable American Family Radio nutjobs like Brian Fischer, Mike Huckabee, and Fox News and believe they are hearing the straight truth. Is it any wonder that, having been bombarded with so much wingnut propaganda, they have concluded as they have?

    • Eric

      Why are evangelicals any different than most people? Surely you are not making the claim that most non-evangelicals are any more "balanced" in their news gathering.

      • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

        Eric, I think it is a matter or ratios and it is so hard to determine but I think Hoss is unto something here.

      • bighoss

        I don't know why they are different, but they are. I know that the great majority of my liberal friends do watch and listen to the right wing media. Some do so for the laughs, as in the case of the consistently ridiculous Glenn Beck. I listen to Limbaugh from time to time to see what kind of pompous, oafish commentary he will come up with–he has an inexhaustible supply of that commodity.

    • Evermyrtle

      If you know what all that these sources are handing out you must be listening to them too, and have evaluated them, too.. I have no idea where you get the idea that all of your opinions are the correct ones.

      • http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ Jeff Dixon

        Which of your opinions do you believe to be incorrect? Everyone believes their opinions are correct.

      • bighoss

        Of course I listen to those wing nut sources–to hear the current drivel they are putting out. But I also listen to other sources with different points of view. That is how I differ from so many of the ultraconservatives I know, who almost NEVER listen to or view media that do not embrace and advance their particular biases.

        • http://youtu.be/HlD3Gaq4cN0 Despeville

          I can see your point. Most levenjellycals think that FOX is unbiased and there is no other sources of information.

    • mesamanp47

      And hoss, if I recall correctly, they have that right and privilege. They can think the way they want, just like you WHINOs who think (?) the way you do. We disagree on where they get their news. If you watch Rachel Madcow, and channels like MSNBC, CNN, or read Huff 'N Puff or A Hole L on the internet, you are every bit as likely to be the wingnut nutjob you rave about. There are plenty of bloggers who agree with me here and on Huff 'N Puff you'll be a local hero to your kind.

      • dwoodphd

        I agree!

      • bighoss

        I listen to and watch news and commentary from the left and from the right. And as I pointed out above, the ultraconservatives that I know, almost to a man and woman, so disdain the liberal view that they get ALL their news and commentary from right wing sources. That, ole buddy, does not produce a balance of any kind.

    • dwoodphd

      And you listen to who big hoss? Msnbc, cnn and others of the "progressive", "real," hollywood types? just wondering!

      • dwoodphd

        Oh yes, and Huff 'N Puff? … as mesamanp47 had pointed out.

        If so I take back all my thumbs up I gave you.

      • bighoss

        You must have missed what I posted above, so I will give it to you again:

        "Of course I listen to those wing nut sources–to hear the current drivel they are putting out. But I also listen to other sources with different points of view. That is how I differ from so many of the ultraconservatives I know, who almost NEVER listen to or view media that do not embrace and advance their particular biases."

        • dwoodphd

          I got what you are bighoss… you are Hollywood through and through… fluff… smoke and mirrors… no patriot of the USA. You have not read my several posts about you! I am one of those Americans who has an abiding respect for the OFFICE of the president, and abhors those presidents in it for themselves. I listen to what the president says, what the lawmakers say AND I experience the repercussions in the workplace… i.e. in the reality of what is going down in this country due to the MISTAKE we made in putting certain others and the current president in power. He -and his supporters – will not be happy until we are all in unemployment lines, until we are all food-stampers, until we are all in submission to the money changers… that is who you are. Yes I read your post and keep an "ear to the ground" to detect the actual devastation of your anti-for-the-people, anti-American policies.

  • aceituna

    All the more reason we need a congress that will actively and agressively attack the "tax" issue in Obama care and repeal it. Actually they will need to repeal the whole of Obama care and make laws that will set up a decent health care system, not one big messy law, but little short bills that we can understand and comment on as to whether it is decent or not.

  • http://zionica.com Grant

    These are the same individuals who voted for Mr. Obama, or whatever his name is. They bite the bullet on this one.
    More and more free stuffs for the 46 millions people that aren't working, they love him…

  • myth buster

    I once considered going to medical school. All this nonsense is why I chose not to.

    • dwoodphd

      Likewise! though now I half-wish I had since my family would be better served (by me of course, not by the government edict)

  • sandykramer

    Let me tell you how it will be
    There's one for you, nineteen for me
    'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

    Should five per cent appear too small
    Be thankful I don't take it all
    'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

    If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
    If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
    If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
    If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

    Don't ask me what I want it for
    If you don't want to pay some more
    'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman