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Study claims Muslim extremists not looking for world domination

Muslim extremists are more concerned with defending against foreign intrusion than foisting Islam on the world, according to a new study of extremist texts. The study suggests that a Western approach of claiming extremists are seeking world domination is misdirected, and instead should seek to counteract claims of victimhood.

"Continued claims to the contrary, by both official and unofficial sources, only play into a 'clash of civilizations' narrative that benefits the extremist cause. These claims also undermine the credibility of Western voices, because the audience knows that extremist arguments are really about victimage and deliverance," write the researchers, Jeffry Halverson, R. Bennett Furlow and Steven Corman.

The analysis by Arizona State University's Center for Strategic Communication looked at how the Quran was used in 2,000 propoganda items from 1998 to 2011, though the majority were from post-2007, that emanated mostly from the Middle East and North Africa. Among the groups analyzed were al Qaeda and al Shabaab, as well as anonymous postings online.

One result that surprised the researchers, the "near absence" of citations from one of the most extreme passages, the "Verse of Swords," that encourages "all-out war against world domination."

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  • Eric

    Ummm, OK. So then according to these brilliant researchers even "extremists" have their limits? They only blow up stuff and terrorize others because they are concerned about the survival of their "culture"? What a crock. You have to be educated to be so dumb.

    • keyboardshark

      Yes, there are always some boneheaded academics that cannot see the obvious. Or maybe the study was funded by a Muslim terrorist front organization like CAIR. Remember, the Koran says it is acceptable to lie in order to further the cause of Islam, so should we even be surprised when some Muslim apologist 'studies' like this pop up?

      • Pazuzu

        To all peceeding comments, ditto! "You have to be educated to be that dumb" is the phrase of the day. Moslems are the lyingest people I've ever seen or heard of (taqiya). Rule no. 1 is don't believe or trust moslems starting with Buraque Hussein O' bama, &c.

        • daves

          Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 )

          • bighoss

            You are either ignorant, Daves, or stubbornly resistant to that which has been explained multiple times on this forum. Those instructions in Deuteronomy were to the nation of Israel and applied during the Old Testament Mosaical dispensation, which is now past. They are not for Christians today or for modern Israel for that matter. Your intent in posting those verses without comment was transparently for the purpose of suggesting similarities between Islam and Christianity, but that old dog won't hunt.

        • DWoodPC

          they are not the only ones with this religious credo of lying

    • wolff bachner

      I would love to see the grant proposal for this so called study. It would give us an idea what these researchers were looking for in the first place. did they have a point of view before the study started or was it really an open study with no preset opinions. how about a reporter telling u s more about the grant itself since very often these so called studies are nothing more than fishing expeditions to reach a preset conclusion. id bet money that was the case here. these guys probably has this opinion before the study began and did everything they could to make sure it turned out the way they wanted.

      anyway how would they explain this statement by the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood:

      Dr. Muhammad Badi, the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, said: "When the Brotherhood started its advocacy [da'wa], it tried to awaken the nation from its slumber and stagnation, to guide it back to its position and vocation. In his message at the sixth caucus, the Imam [Hassan Banna, founder] defined two goals for the Brotherhood: a short term goal, the fruits of which are seen as soon as a person becomes a member of the Brotherhood; and a long term goal that requires utilizing events, waiting, making appropriate preparations and prior designs, and a comprehensive and total reform of all aspects of life…. The Imam [Banna] delineated transitional goals and detailed methods to achieve this greatest objective, starting by reforming the individual, followed by building the family, the society, the government, and then a rightly guided caliphate and finally mastership of the world."

    • SpiderMike

      "We are tired of aristocratic explanations in Harvard words." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower

      I guess these twits didn't hear the Ayatollah of Iran last week tell his minions to get ready for worldwide jihad.

    • anne gelinas

      Lots of crock. They have a mentality that they are above all of us. Meaning those who are not Muslims and do not follow Islam. Everywhere they are, their indoctrination to Islam means they must consider us beneath them and or infidels. So if that is true and they say it is, then how can they say they have not considered taking over the world with their teachings and ideologies.? Only as you say, those educated who are so dumb, could possibly understand their technique.
      It is easy. they come in like kitty cats and turn into full fledged lions and lionesses. They ? Convince you they have no intentions and then do exactly what you knew would happen. It is difficult for one to believe otherwise when if you ARE educated, you get the picture. ! They depend on the dumbing down of Americans and then it is a matter of time when
      they show their superiority over the rest of us. that is the plan. it has been in the works for at least 20-30 years.
      Just like Osama Bin Laden, stay quiet, plan your moves, then attack. Nothing has changed in their world so guess what? they believe we have to change to adapt to them. Australia here we all come.

    • MSGT JOHN CORREA

      Eric, to the so-called "researchers' I'd say; "That's what you think!" The Muslims tried that jazz of world domination in Australia when they insisted that the law of the land in Australia should be their 'Shariah Law." The Prime Minister of Australia Kevin Rudd told them to GET OUT! I wish we had leaders with the same guts in our country. I don't believe most Muslim have any idea of the history of their Muhammad's religion of Islam or the fact that he was a murderer and a terrorist. Muhammad was a self made "prophet," who made no prophecies; he conceived his religion to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. The religion of Islam is a blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories. You should read Muhammad's Qur'an and learn all about his creation of Islam. It's enough to scare you away. Their Qur'an has been canonized over and over to suit their terrorist agendas. They didn't appreciate the translation of their Qur'an because it exposed their true nature.

      MSGT JOHN CORREA
      USAF (RET)

  • Masha

    Actions speak louder than words!

    • mesamanp47

      I could have understood these findings if they had come from some university in Detroit, but ASU. I had hoped they stood for something courageous and honorable, but it was not so. May their funding be averted to a new stadium, maybe even a center for the study of federal crimes against the indigenous tribes of Arizona.

      • DWoodPC

        wait a minute: it may have been one of those professors we hired from overseas like Pakistan who has a permanent U,S, visa and is getting millions to do the study,,, lot of those here

        • mesamanp47

          Your point is far too reasonable. I had thought they owned motels, stop and robs, or diners. Hadn't thought about the vast number that came here for an education and stayed on in the halls of academia.

  • Ali bin Dover

    What a joke; it's quite likely that the question were written and interpreted by Muslims, probably from the Muslim Student Association of ASU. Additionally, were there ANY non-Muslims involved, they would not likely understand the Arabic/Muslim concept of taqqiya, which permits a Muslim to lie when they are under duress or believing that they are being attacked because they are Muslims. (attacking can mean a media attack in the modern age)

    • mesamanp47

      Taqqiya is hard wired into the DNA of muslims, they have generalized it to include anyone not believing in muhammed.

  • Angry

    These people kill their young over their arrogance. I believe there needs no further comment.

  • gladdrial

    Arizona State University’s Center for Strategic Communication
    Do these people live in a alternate reality or What!

  • Jerry Burridge

    With an ounce of understanding you ask "Who funded the research study?" And with a dime worth of discernment you ask "What is the agenda or the focused objective of those funding the study?" W hen George Soros or the Chicago Pastor & liberation theology are in that mix then that mix is questionable–to use that ounce and that dime.

  • steve

    These researchers haven't a clue. Having lived among Muslims in Muslim countries I know first hand of "Takiyya" (lying) to non-Muslims to achieve their goal. These researchers cite post-2007 writings which indicates adapting the lies to conform to the liberals belief Muslims are not striving for world domination. This amounts to liberal liars duped by Muslim liars.

    • KatieOh

      Amen, Steve! You've hit the nail on the head.

  • Artie T

    So, according to the "geniuses" the incident in Dearborn, Michigan where the Muslim crowd attacked the small group of Christians who were non violent in every way was merely Muslims being the victim rather than the criminals? They threw anything they could find at these Christians, and the police did nothing constructive to stop the attacks.

    • anne gelinas

      You nailed it. Lying is natural in certain ideologies and Americans would be remiss to not think they are not lying. The technique employed is to lie enough to make it true , then lie to undo the lie, then by that time, hello? they nailed us.

    • PaulB

      and if you noticed the name of the cop in charge was a muslim name, conflict of interest…

  • Steve

    Really?!? I guess Al-Qaeda didn't get the memo….

  • JDH

    Are these the same guys who produced the study that Hitler was realy a humanitarian and loved Jews?

    • http://theuniversalreligion.com mosescats

      We are heading down the same path that the Germans followed "BLINDLY", and it smells like donkey doo..

      • JDH

        I see you got my meaning and I agree whole=heartedly with your course prediction.

  • http://twitter.com/lambsev11 @lambsev11

    Sounds like TIQYYA to me…
    SEE this for confirmation: http://barnabasfund.org/UK/Act/Campaign/Operation

    • DWoodPC

      @lambsev11
      I am afraid to sign petitions from other countries and cultures I don't understand.
      They also have a word for making "false treaties"
      so their enemy will put his weapon down…. its said they did that once with Bush
      its in their holy book

  • amishmime

    To " continue reading at security . blogs @ CNN .com"

    Therein lies the key. CNN.

    • DWoodPC

      right, amishmime, with the gay guy anderson going full in the news this week

  • Bryan76016

    The people who wrote this bilge think Americans are stupid and will believe any lie they tell. Unfortunately, there is a large segment of people who will believe any lie they tell. That is why bo could pull out a second term. The "takers" outnumber the "providers." and active muslims outnumber active Christians. We could be in for a "long hot summer."

    • anne gelinas

      This happens where they all came from. They do it everywhere they go and no one stops them. So don't believe them when they say their intentions are not to take over the world. They know exactly what they are doing and how to make it happen. The law in the United States means nothing to them. They make their own laws in their neighborhoods they took over and dare any USA law to stop them. See, do you see? It is a planned take over and always has been. Lying is part of the plan.

  • dwoodpc

    Scientists Perform Study: Stay Vigilant

  • Rosemarytearoom

    Ignore idiotic study. It must have been written by Muslim extremists embedded in American government at the invitation of the PC Democratic Party and had welcome extended by Barack Hussein Obama, POTUS.. Bait and switch tactic has been practiced by Islamist jihadists almost since the beginning of ISLAM's time. Let’s begin with history:

    In 628, six years after fleeing,Mecca, Muhammad’s followers were allowed to reenter city under an agreement whereby he set aside title “Prophet of Allah.”  Temporary ploy enabled him to gain political foothold in city. [same “fifth column” activities still used today by organizations such as CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood Front] use host’s [America] constitutional language of religious tolerance to disguise ulterior agenda: systematic discrimination against non-Muslims. Many followers first thought Muhammad had made concessions to Meccans. Later, realized agreement actually fit perfectly with ultimate agenda of domination…campaign against Khaybar, to assuage their lust for blood, women and loot…used to march armies into Mecca…Tribe allied to Meccans conducted raids on tribe allied with Medinans…Muhammad evolved from trying to sell himself as Judeo-Christian prophet, seeking followers, to Arab warlord, seeking subjects, slaves and total dominance…this Standard Operating Procedure continues:
    Muslim Brotherhood mission statement [has never changed or been altered]

    “The process of settlement” is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process”…(our) work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s (Allah’s) religion is made victorious over all other religions.”

    Most quoted verse of Quran is “Verse of the Sword” and phrase, “not every Muslim is a terrorist but every terrorist is a Muslim.” There is an inseparable link between Islam and terrorism.

    e.g. Lebanon War-Hezbollah attacks; first to wave white flag of surrender…Terrorists had six ‘uninterrupted’ years, by shielded by UN "peacekeepers" looking the other way. Terrorists seduce with suspect(often supplied by American foreign aid/charities)…Terrorists maintain allegiance at point of gun, willingness to blow up anything, anyone to make a point, or just kill on a whim. Terrorist behead, randomly to drive point home…savage and inhumane group of killers hide behind women and children in crowded communities…terrorists cannot win militarily, only hide behind and among helpless humans, bomb, run, hide!!!

    When militant Arab Muslim groups find selves in losing conflicts initiated, they immediately proclaim…ready to suspend hostilities, begin negotiations…suddenly become concerned with victims, saying "Peace" … Some PC Americans fall for it every time. Arab Muslims have insidious habit of negotiating falsely, tactic all too easily grasped by Marxists/socialists/PC fundamental transformers of America as FIG LEAF to hide EVIL and pacify “sheep” longing for peaceful meadow to graze. Terrorists: Saddam Hussein in his time, Yasser Arafat, Osama Bin Laden…Janjaweed in Darfur…and Iraqi terrorist Moqtada Sadr never stop or sue from peace. When hit hard and causalities mount, they immediately plead for negotiations, only to start attacking again after resting and regrouping. In most prior wars involving nation states, Islamic countries howl for international intervention only when they start to lose battles they started. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton-who should have been impeached (Watergate, lying under oath) and still should be, is trying to get around Congress to fund Muslim Brotherhood. SO, don’t even take this “STUDY” with a grain of salt. Dismiss. Its a sham. America will survive. America’s enemies will not. Keep the faith and the conversation going.

    • anne gelinas

      Correction: In Bed with American Government. From the start I said there are guns pointed at the heads of some government officials. You cannot see them but they are there. Cross them and you will not be seen either.

      • KatieOh

        Are you saying we can not do anything to prevent disaster from Muslims?

        • msjallen

          The only way we can prevent their disaster is through the Lord Jesus Christ. The reason why we are losing to the onslaught of other countries and their culture and religion is because so many have turn away from God in this country and no longer know what the Bible teaches. Too many are willing to accept anything that man comes up with since they have no solid foundation in God's Word. Why should God continue to bless our Nation when so many no longer honor Him. In fact, Christian persecution is beginning to infiltrate every area of our lives. We can no longer pray in Jesus' name or mention God in our speeches, or have a Bible class on our property, or put up crosses or Christian symbols at Christmas time — we are losing our freedom

      • Rosemarytearoom

        Will WE THE PEOPLE miss these traitors should they disappear? I think not! There are eyes that love America on them. Attacking America and fading back into gopher hole is height of insanity. Eyes watching will turn into boots in the butt- to put it mildly. But, WE have a duty and an obligation to sound the alarm. Never forget, since 9/11/01, it has been alert "eyes of America that have save US: Shoe Bomber; Under ware Bomber, noted, subdued by Airline passengers; Attempted bombing of Time Square, sensed by street vendor. So, even with betrayers and traitors in our midst, someone watches over us. And, WE THE PEOPLE become wiser and more vigilant with every passing day. Thank God for the internet! Keep the faith and the conversation going.

    • PaulB

      there is a novel out that hasn't yet been translated to English called "The Mosque of Notre Dame 2048", if we don't maintain vigilance then it will not be a work of fiction but of fact almost prophetic.

      nobody wants to admit this one fact but it was islam that started this war we are currently fighting and i'm not talking about 9/11. anyone who wishes can look up "America's 200 year war with islamic terrorism" and learn how this began, with a treaty islam broke (when it was to their advantage) and lies muslims spew.

  • victorbarney

    READ REVELATION, CHAPTER 17:5 & READ FOR YOURSELF that "BABYLON IN IRAQ IS THE GREAT WHORE & TOGETHER WITH ZECH. 5:7-11(to orginal Babylon, Iraq) identify Islam as the "BEAST" THAT YAHSHUA, in Hebrew meaning "Yahweh(YHWH) means salvation!" Also, (Y)Israel by the seed of (Y)Joseph, including Judah(Yahudah) is PUNISHED FIRST REVELATION, CHAPTER 11: 3-13 when the SECOND WOE IS PAST! THE FIRST WOE was the "appointment" the "FORBIDDEN FOREIGNER"(non-anglo-saxon) (DEUTERONOMY 17:15) over you(only time in history)! Just saying… __

    • bighoss

      Yes, "just saying" inchoate nonsense!

  • Evermyrtle

    How would any of the studies compare Muslim beliefs with today's American acting president promoting Muslim beliefs and destroying or trying to destroy all Christian beliefs, by putting muzzles,or trying to put muzzles on Christian mouths. I read, only yesterday where a man was jailed for allowing Bible studies in his home. We know there is at
    least one street that is closed off when the Muslims are ready to pray. If any of you have any doubts which way our country is going, try closing any street off in any town and it's people gets on theirs knees to pray to GOD and it won't take long to discover exactly what the Muslims have in mind.

    Matt. 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words will not pass away.

    Mark 13:9 -11

    9. But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues you shall be beaten: and you shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them
    10. And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
    11. But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought before hand what you shall speak, neither do you premeditate; but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak you: for it is not you that speak, but th HOLY GHOST .

    Luke 21:10-13

    10. Then HE said unto them, Nation shall rise against nation,
    11. And great earthquakes shall be in many places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sight ans great signs shall there be fro heaven.
    12. But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

  • anne gelinas

    And God help us all that we find God again before it is too late. God knows that we are turning against Him in droves like sheep being slaughtered instead of holding onto our Faith. Take your pick Americans. God or slaughter. God never takes you where you cannot find him, so if you want to be saved, then you must be the one to reach out to God. Then all will be well again and we will win this battle over whose God is talking to who.

  • dntmkmecomoverther

    These researchers failed to look to how the 'domination' ideology of islam works. They invade by immigration, dominate by populating that culture and then dominate in the political process. It wasn't always this way though, go back to 632 when moohamid dies and look at the next century, up to 732ad. Nearly all of North Africa and much of the middle east is dominated by subjugation/coercion. Bill Federer has a very good condensed history of muslim invasions and how we in the US better wake up to the threat of islamic ideology today…before we are forced to speak arabic and bow to mecca…

  • Vladimir

    If I were a Muslim intent on forcing Islam on everyone in the world, I would want to lull my victims and feed their natural inclination to disbelieve the worst in others. Muslims are directed by the their idealogy to subjugate or murder those that resist until the entire planet is Muslim.

    • DWoodPC

      KJV

      Romans 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
      Isaiah 57:21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.
      Psalm 7:15-16 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.
      Proverbs 5:22 His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins.
      Ecclesiastes 9:18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good.
      Proverbs 11:6 The righteousness of the upright shall deliver them: but transgressors shall be taken in their own naughtiness.
      etc
      Lastly, for us:
      1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

  • Amishron

    The people at Airizona University doing this study must be the three stooges. The Islamist extremists have said that the want total world domination. Every place that the extremists have struck, they always build a mosque as a symbol of their dominance or conquering just like how they want to build a mosque near ground zero.

  • Chris

    No it's just the Dominionist Christians – the ones that hold sway in the military.

  • librtyship

    Yes sure, Hitler, Stalin and Hirohito were not striving for world dominance either! What a joke, this latest enemy, Islamism has the same aims as the preceding three I have mentioned!

  • Esteban Cafe

    Mohammed Morsi, whogave an inspiring stump speech before the students of Cairo University before the election to them, "Death in the name of Allah is our goal." It is not uncommon for mullahs to say one thing in Arabic/Farsi and another in English. Recall the many gaffes in which Mssr Yasser Arafat was caught.

    If you have a strong stomach, review "Life Under Sharia": http://www.islamist-watch.org/blog/2012/06/life-u

    Prediction: there are 1 Billion adherents of Islam; the West and Christianity will face them in all-out war within 10 years. (Nomex suit. Check. Let the flaming begin)

    • madmemere

      It may not take 10 years; the latest word, on WND website, today – -Iran has 40,000 (that's forty thousand) jihadiis, in South American, waiting for "the word" to attack the US! So, I would recommend, to our 90,000+ gun owners, that you "lock and load and be ready"!

  • Esteban Cafe
  • James Martin

    It is OK for muslims to LIE even ENCOURAGED to further their cause of dominating the world.

  • CryingSoftly

    This study gives you a lot of confidence in the education you can get at our universities, doesn't it?

  • Luong

    If muslims are not interested in dominating the world, then Hilter was a peace-loving Nobel Prize winner…

    • mesamanp47

      No, that was NOMObammie.

  • drmdellis

    Koran: Sura 9:5 "…fight and slay the pagans (i.e. infidels) wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war."
    Koran: Sura 5:33 "Their punishment is…execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land."

  • Xmen

    The only thing ruled is the mind in your head by a media that is pushing through an agenda using the Muslims and Islam as a fabricated enemy.

  • Deepizzaguy

    If Muslims do not want to take over the planet. I have a bowling alley in New Orleans east to sell you real cheap.

  • Rich Florida

    The time will come when we will be saying kill them all to get peace in the world. They are saying that about us the Christians , either become one of us or you die. It's time we stop being Politically Correct because it's going to kill us .They are trying to collapse our country so they can take it over but that is NOT going to happen because Muslim have never been a part of our country . So if you think that they are a peace loving people, think again because they are not.!!

  • victorbarney

    As in the FIRST FRUIT of MARXISM, ALSO ANTI-CHRIST in PHILOSOPHY: LIE, LIE, LIE SOME SOME MORE! DID I MENTION MURDER TOO! It's RACISM WILSON STYLE…REMEMBER HIM? DUH! Just saying…

  • DWoodPC

    The presidential election is not making them feel any better about us. They hate that we have so much, even relatively civil elections.