Do atheists have a sexual harassment problem?

As skeptics, atheists and humanists prepare to gather for their largest meeting in Las Vegas this weekend, attendance by women is expected to be down significantly.

Officials for The Amazing Meeting, or TAM, said Wednesday (July 11) that women would make up 31 percent of the 1,200 conference attendees, down from 40 percent the year before. A month before the conference, pre-registration was only 18 percent women, organizers said.

The explanations are many — the bad economy, that women, as caregivers, are less able to get away, and that more men than women identify as skeptics, whose worldview rejects the supernatural and focuses on science and rationality.

But in the weeks preceding TAM, another possible explanation has roiled the nontheist community. Online forums have crackled with charges of sexism in TAM’s leadership and calls for the ouster of D.J. Grothe, the male president of the James Randi Educational Foundation, TAM’s organizer. In June, Rebecca Watson, a skeptic blogger and speaker, canceled her TAM appearance because, she said on her blog, she does “not feel welcome or safe.”

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DWoodPC

A tidbit from their "leader" Dawkins: "Last year, at another skeptic conference, Watson said she was approached late at night in an elevator by a man she believed was seeking sex. When she blogged about it, the “atheosphere” erupted in comments, both supportive and negative. British biologist Richard Dawkins, the best-selling author of “The God Delusion,” wrote that Watson should “stop whining” and “grow a thicker skin.”" .

The question is: Was her belief rational, delusional, spurious? (belief rational … is that an oxymoron)
- Chris P
  
  It wasn't a belief it was an opinion.
  - DWoodPC
    
    You were reading between the lines, I suppose, b/c she said "she believed"… did I miss something? Thanks you for your comment.
John

As a believer in Jesus Christ as my lord & savior I find it not surprising that Rebecca Watson, a skeptic blogger and speaker, canceled her TAM appearance because, she said on her blog, she does “not feel welcome or safe.” Well can you blame her. W/o a standard of what is right & wrong, those who are vulnerable have much to fear from an atheist governed country. Just ask anyone who lives in China. Atheism has NO logical explanation for morality, thought they like to think they do. What little logic they have is merely survival of the fittest, which is contrary to what has kept the mankind alive & thriving on this planet. The animal kingdom has instinct, man on the other hand has a human nature, God given, that includes free will to go against instinct, e. g. survival of the fittest, ability to control fire (animals are instinctively afraid of fire), climb mountains to their highest points, (fear of heights is instinctive in man according to scientist), & many other attributes common ONLY to man. As mankind moves away from & I must qualify, the one true God, our chances of survival decline rapidly. History bears this out. Look at the many civilizations that have come & gone. Rome's empire, the decline of Europe, & now the decline of America, all due to moral bankruptcy, being disobedient to God.
- Chris P
  
  What a total load of BS. There are no gods.
  - http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.
    
    Wrong-O…
  - LouiseCA
    
    True. There are no "gods". They are fallen angels, demons, spirits. But the GOD OF THE UNIVERSE, Creator of All, lives!
  - Annie
    
    Actually you are the load, yourself!
- Eddie
  
  John I've been screaming this for years now. But the sad fact is nobody listens. They're so wrapped up in their own personal little worlds they can't see the forest for the trees. Even God said that He wouldn't always struggle with man. I have become so frustrated at the level of "bonehead" in this country I've all but given up and decided to just look out for me. A verse I find that's consoling is found in Mark 6:11 "And whoever will not receive you or hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them.' The way I interrupt that is…"If you chose not to accept what I've said then go on with your bad self and accept the consequences." I've gotten to an age where I'm not going to waste time on stupidity anymore. And God knows there is a major stupid problem in this country. You get that by thinking that you're smarter than God or that He doesn't exist ! I wonder how they're going to explain away the newly found GOD PARTICLE ?
- Anne Gelinas
  
  And they decline because;;? The Power of God and perhaps humans should keep in mind the GREAT FLOOD and Noah's Ark???? How about Sodom and Gomorrah and turning a woman into salt? God said He would not again destroy the world and put a rainbow in the sky to seal His promise. But mankind can destroy the world and with all the wars and street fights and murder going on, mankind will do what God won't….destroy the world. Earth will still be here and God will still be here, but mankind will wipe itsself out. Hatred and jealousy of religions, colors and creeds will be the death of all of us. God won't have to lift His Finger. This is all Master Planned by God. Mock God, Mock Jesus, and you will be mocked yourself by God. Atheists, if you want to take that chance, so be it, I wouldn't.
  - msjallen
    
    Man does not have the power to destroy this world no matter how many nuclear weapons are set off or if we are the cause of global warming (not). Only God, who created the earth and all it contains can destroy it.
    Hebrews 1:2-4… in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they.
    Jesus Christ is in control of history.
dntmkmecomoverther

British biologist Richard Dawkins, the best-selling author of “The God Delusion,” wrote that Watson should “stop whining” and “grow a thicker skin.”"
Given his evolutionary, atheistic worldview, what would be wrong with Ms. Watson putting a gun to the head of Dawkins and/or the would be assailant and capping them? If they are going to live consistently with their worldview, there would be nothing 'wrong' with that. Only when they apply the virtues and morals of Christianity do these things become identifiable as 'wrong' or 'evil'.
- Chris P
  
  In part he was right. What happened to Rebecca happens in real life and most people deal with it. It happens to men and women Christian and atheist.
  - dntmkmecomoverther
    
    Then, given your atheistic, evolutionary worldview, what would be wrong with me ‘handling’ it by putting a gun to their head and blowing their brains out? Killing them would certainly ‘handle’ the problem…so, given your worldview, what would be wrong with that?
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
      
      Amazing how your every solution to a problem consists of murdering someone.
      - dntmkmecomoverther
        
        Given your worldview, what’s wrong with that? How do you even account for it being ‘amazing’?
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
        
        Let me rephrase. It is amazing that you believe this is a good argument against a naturalistic view of the world.
      - dntmkmecomoverther
        
        I’m not attempting to say that it’s either ‘good’ or ‘bad’, I am asking YOU to tell me how you would know how to define good from bad given your worldview of origins.
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
        
        One more time. Actions that benefit the group have been called good and actions that harm the group have been called bad.
      - dntmkmecomoverther
        
        That’s way to wide a brush to paint with; be specific like you asked of me.Specifically what is ‘Good’ in your worldview?Specifically what is ‘Bad’ or ‘evil’ in your worldview?How do you know this? How do you account for being able to tell the difference given your set of beliefs of ‘where we came from’? Who is ‘the group’? What if I am not part of ‘the group’ to which you refer?
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
        
        Good actions benefit the group. Bad actions hurt the group. It is not a specific group. It is activities that impacted human societies over ten of thousands of years.
      - dntmkmecomoverther
        
        Ok. Slavery was considered ‘good’ at one time…why? Now it’s not….why not? (I’m not advocating for slavery I am simply wanting to know how you account for morality in a naturalistic worldview)Killing babies has been considered by some groups to be ‘good’ and some ‘groups’ to be ‘bad’ over the time period you mention. Who is correct? Why?If we evolved from nothing, to what we are now; how do you account for being able to differentiate between Good or Bad, moral or immoral given that survival was the key to success in the evolutionary model? Whatever the ‘group’ must do to survive is by our statement considered ‘good’…does that preclude any actions? Many animals steal, hurt, kill and eat each other in the struggle to survive…what would be wrong with us doing that given your belief of origins? What makes us any different than the animals given your worldview? (other than we can type and use the internet?)
- bighoss
  
  Many atheists are harshly critical of Biblical standards of morality, insisting that there is a morality that somehow can be invoked apart from Biblical sources or otherwise based on religion. They argue that standards of morality can be developed simply by the application of common sense regard for the good of all or by other vague rationalizations.
  
  The Bible's standards for sexual morality are not held in high regard by many atheists. Thus is is no surprise that there are so many instances of sexually aggressive behavior by male atheists toward females, whether atheist or believers.
  - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
    
    It is a mystery why Atheists would have a problem with biblical morality.
    
    (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
    
    So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
    
    The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
    
    Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
    
    Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These depraved men killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
    - DWoodPC
      
      The KJV calls these men "the valiantist" (most valiant)… I see this as evil. It's a history of the people, good and bad. There's the lesson…. … is this compounding the evil?: "In those days there was no king of Israel, every man did that which is right in his own eyes." No recommendation is made to interpret this one way or another. It is just there. One reads the story. It is something to ponder about one's own humanity… one hopes to make better judgments where needed
  - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
    
    It is a mystery as to why they think that.
    
    (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
    
    They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
    
    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
    
    Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
  - DWoodPC
    
    Hi bighoss: did you have a look at Jeff's list somewhere on this site… of the population by religion od persons in prison for these crimes? It is telling, with respect to your comment.
http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman

It doesn't surprise me that many women might feel a bit uncomfortable at a convention of Atheists, after all, moral relativism is basically the Atheist motto. People who do not believe in a Supreme Being, usually do not believe that there ever was a Divinely inspired Ten Commandments, and therefore, no moral code, no right, no wrong, no good and no evil. I do believe however that even Atheist males have an inherent sense of right and wrong, that either came from a Christian upbringing or perhaps an exposure to a church somewhere in their childhood. However, a Convention of Atheists is destined to attract sexual predators, as they assume that all attendees of the convention possess little or no morals. I do not believe that all Atheist males prey on Atheist females for fun and frolic.
- Chris P
  
  The church seems to do a better job of attracting sexual predators. I haven't heard of anybody at these conventions being arrested for child rape.
  - http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman
    
    Only a true ignoramus would come back with a reply like yours. Your asinine is showing. Just how many children do you think attend an Atheist convention you moron? It is people like you, people with your lack of even minuscule intellect that are responsible for the degradation of this nation. Fortunately, "you reap what you sow", and rightly so!
  - LouiseCA
    
    How many children attend those conventions? Maybe that's why you haven't "heard".
- LouiseCA
  
  You are correct. Once God is removed from the equation, who's to say anyone's morality is any better than anyone else's. If someone wants to steal their neighbor's belongings and take off with his wife, what gives anyone else the right to say that's the wrong thing to do. If God is not the center of our existence, then the government has to be, and we wind up in the mess we see happening to American right now. If the government says, no you can't murder your neighbor and take his wife, then you have the government legislating morality. Who is it that's always screaming that the government can't legislate morality? The atheists, who want to flood our society with porn! Circular reasoning of atheists is a road to nowhere.
  - http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman
    
    You are correct Louise. Morality can only be injected into society through the efforts of people of moral character. Immorality simply breeds more immorality. A good example is: The National Socialist Health Care System, more commonly known as Obama Care, is being forced the hardest on people who don't want it, by people who are exempted from it. Examples: The First Family, members of both houses of congress, SEIU, and a number of other Obama cronies and companies who supported him in the last election, we can just call them elites. Immorality is rampant in Washington, D.C. The direction our nation is headed should frighten the immoral, but they don't believe there will be consequences to their immoral acts. God Help Us
- Anne Gelinas
  
  Exactly correct that with no life-filled code to live by, there is no morality amongst the group. I would feel uncomfortable being in a large mass of people with no moral compass. If I am taken advantage of by any group member, then I put myself amongst humans who care not for me. I can expect God to protect me but why would I as a woman want to throw myself into a lion's den? Males are males, and without a moral compass to control right from wrong, I would be in the wrong place to find that out. I find it imaginable that any woman has no moral compass regarding her life and her
  ability to have children. No one ever but God introduced life. Anyone who actually believes a big bang happened and babies were able to be born in a woman's tubes, has to be delusional. Belief in a Power greater than I will keep God alive and me sane. Our superego given by God , not a big bang, is our salvation from insanity. Superego of our brain keeps us within the moral compass God planned for mankind. Those who are so egotistical that God is lower then they are, are mocking God. Heaven help them all. There time will come.
- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
  
  Sexual predators would be attracted to locations with many small children. You know, like in churches.
  - http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman
    
    JWDixon66, hey c'mon Jeff, is that you with the new handle? Doesn't matter, really. I have read through all your comments, didn't take very long, I've seen more difficult reading in 2nd grade readers. Your replies and comments are at best, nonsensical and childish, not to mention repetitive and without substance. Reading your replies is like listening to a broken record, you keep playing the same inane song over and over again.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
      
      I have noticed that to be a common refrain from people with no actual rebuttal.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
      
      I had created an IntenseDebate profile some time ago, but was not using it. I had been asked to start using the service. The profile name is not the same.
      - http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman
        
        Whatever the name, I thoroughly enjoy the joust.
- Taquoshi
  
  Okay, so there was some sexual harassment.
  
  Let me ask this, would it have been any different if the gathering was for the National Dentist Association, the National Association of Grocery Store Clerks or Pet Groomers of America (I don't know if these groups even exist – just chose some ideas at random – no reflection on anyone)?
  
  The other question I have is how much might be influenced by the location – i.e. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas?
  
  I guess what I am asking here is whether the reported actions of the "men" in this particular group is any different than any other group of "men" in any non-religious group. I am in no way defending inappropriate behavior, but I am also not inclined to ascribe all inappropriate behavior to the fact that the reason for the group meetings was to discuss atheism. I would imagine that any large grouping of people, such as those who might attend a State Fair or a major football playoff, would contain those men who would sexually harass a woman regardless of whether or not the men were atheists.
  - http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman
    
    Although your points are good and certainly well taken, the subject of the article was regarding the "Atheist Convention".Of course, there are events that will attract the run of the mill male chauvinist.I would venture to say that men with good moral upbringing probably wouldn't be the chauvinist.On the other hand, men who make it a habit to sexually harass women may just assume that in, or at, an event targeted toward Atheists, they might find women of lower standards.I am not saying that female or males who are Atheistic have a lower standard regarding their sexual prowess, but may only be perceived to have lower standards, by those who do prey on women.Does that make any sense?Either way, it makes to me.
    - Taquoshi
      
      Actually, your points make a lot of sense. The reason I tried to take out the word "atheist" is to kind of functionally remove the automatic assumption that "godly" or "religious" people would have a higher moral standard. People who are not "religious" or "godly" often do have moral standards, although one could point out that those standards could be argued down by someone clever enough. I just wonder how the morality would differ from a summit gathering of oh, let's say, The Knights of Columbus versus the Car Collectors of America.
      
      Actually, as a Christian, I find the whole concept of an atheist summit absolutely baffling. Okay, they don't believe in God or gods or supernatural powers or the Force or what have you. Now what? Talking about how stupid the Pentecostals are or the Mormons pales after awhile. The reason we attend church is because we have a commonality with other believers (and it is mandated by Scripture, but that's a whole different kettle of fish).
      
      I can't fathom why people would gather because they DON'T believe in something they can't change. Granted, I personally don't believe in Obamacare, but I can implement political change that would hopefully lead to legislative change. While anarchists don't believe in government and actively do work against it, the OWS crowd has no clear focus and appears to be just a collection of drifters. And for the anarchists and OWSers, I have the same question, I would for the atheists, which is "What are you going to replace [cause du jour] with?"
Robert De Leon

Somehow atheists don't have any Moral (they call it Ethics) for a simple reason: they do not believe in God – at least that's what they say but who knows, who knows.
Robert.
- Chris P
  
  Most Christians don't either. You are truly delusional.
  - LouiseCA
    
    Christian organizations do more for ministering to the needs of the destitute across the nation and world than any other organization or group of people. Because of Christianity, we have modern medicine, schools, hospitals, civilized society. Before you open your mouth or type words, it would be a good idea to learn something about what you think you know so much about. I know of many atheists, and most of them are cynical, hate-filled bigots. Almost none of them would give a dime to charity if their very life depended on it. In contrast, I know several thousand Christians and the vast majority visit hospitals, rest homes, supply food, medicine, clothing and shelter to the needy, and would sit at your bedside through the night if you were sick, lonely or alone.
    - Evermyrtle
      
      Don't worry about Chris. He gets on the wrong site only to harass decent Christian people. I believe Satan send him over. HE needs badly to be ignored.
- http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman
  
  Another inane response. Ethics are and always have been extablished from morals. Where do you people come from?
- http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.
  
  They doh't have a problem with sexual harassment; they've got a problem with God's Sovereignty.
- Anne Gelinas
  
  Atheists know that being ethical is being moral. Too bad they can't see or know that. You cannot be an ethical humanbeing doing all the right things, and not know it has a second meaning of being moral too. Saying you don't believe in morals because you don't believe in God makes no sense. God is Our Creator , so we are all lucky to get a chance to live and to die. A big bang doesn't guarantee you will ever be born so you would never die. A big bang if it is so powerful to create earth, should have a plan that we outlive God's plan for mankind. A big bang cannot plan anything therefore, the only reason we are all here is because a Super Power in Earth' Universe planned it so. Doing the right ethical thing equates to being a moral human being. Why is it impossible for an atheist to want to be a moral human being rather than an ethical one? I don't get it. it is a power struggle between "I don't want to believe, vs. I don't have to believe." Must be a tough life to have nothing to believe in.
  - Chris P
    
    Oh no – that's why they recognized the problem and are trying to fix it.
    
    You people are stupid beyond belief.
    - Annue
      
      I have heard all of my life if you were not one your self, you would not recognize one. You tell on yourself!!!
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
        
        So one must be mentally disturbed to be to recognize someone who is? More absurdity from Christian logic.
- JWDixon66
  
  Are atheists immoral? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYf14Jcq-o&fe…
  
  That atheists are immoral is a statement that we hear from theists constantly. Simply not believing in God automatically makes us immoral. The actions of atheist Communists in the 20th Century demonstrate that atheists are immoral. But is it an accurate viewpoint?
  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/3080822085_ee…
  
  This is a site that shows dozens of secular/ atheist humanitarian groups. Christians are not the only people who help out their fellow Man. Christians do help, but often with strings attached.
  http://www.thinkatheist.com/notes/Secular_chariti…
  If atheists are right, and god is simply a myth, then our disbelief, in and of itself, cannot make us immoral. Because that would make all people equally moral or immoral. However, as a society, we all tend to agree that certain behaviors are immoral. Genocide, murder, slavery, theft; these are all actions we currently consider immoral. First, it needs to be noted that not all people in all times have considered these actions to be immoral. However, in most societies today these are considered immoral actions. So, what makes these actions immoral to most everybody today? These are all actions that harm people. So, are all actions that harm people considered immoral? Oddly, no. There are many actions that people do that cause harm to others and are not considered immoral. For example, killing in self defense or times of war. Some cultures accept killing others because of passion, such as finding your spouse being unfaithful. What is intriguing about this is that it shows that immorality is not a cut and dried proposition. What some cultures consider immoral, others yawn at. Now this seems odd from the viewpoint that god has determined all acceptable behavior. However, from the perspective that people actually determine what is acceptable or not, it makes perfect sense.
  
  It is also interesting that the Christian god has condoned many of these actions in the past. The bible makes no reference that slavery is immoral. In fact, it provides rules for owning slaves. Rather odd if slavery is immoral.
  
  Exodus 21:1-4 "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself."
http://zionica Lipstickmom

They reap what they sow.
- Chris P
  
  Your kind rape little boys and keep it quiet. Is that something to be proud of?
  - http://www.sargee5.blogspot.com The Watchman
    
    It seems to me, that you sir are obsessed with the rape of little boys. Did my original comment hit a nerve? Did I hit on something close to your immoral heart and lifestyle? Did I cause you to self-expose the real you? Is that why you can't stand the conviction? Chris P, perhaps it is time for you to do some self-examination, and maybe seek some spiritual guidance, or maybe you should just turn yourself into your local authorities!
    - Myrtle
      
      Ignore this radical, he is sent to bug us by Satan! Ignore him or her.
    - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
      
      No, that would be the Catholic priests.
  - http://conservativebyte.com Michael G.
    
    Your kind murders people and broadcasts it to the world: "Look how wonderful I/we are."
Evermyrtle

Atheists lives are a problem. I can't say if they really do not the truth or refuse to accept the truth. Perhaps some of both. They need to know that GOD created the entire world and every individual. and HE loves everyone of HIS creations especially humans. HE will give us every chance to accept HIM while we are living in HIS world. Everybody should read the Bible before you refuse to reject HIM. Once you die and come face to face with HIM it is too late to change our minds. At the end of the world this is when we meet HIM face this what HE will do:
Matt. 25:32-34
32. And before HIM shall be gathered all nations: and HE shall separate them one form another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats:
33. And HE shall set the sheep on HIS right hand, but the goats on the left.
34. The shall the KING say unto them on HIS right hand, Come, you blessed of my FATHER, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

Read also, the rest of the chapter to get information to what is to become of those on the left.
- Chris P
  
  My life is not a "problem". Your is because you are wasting your time at church. Wasting your money and spending time thinking about going to heaven when there is none.
  - Robert De Leon
    
    Chris
    Have you ever been in Heaven? How do you know that it doesn't exist?
    We believers do believe in Heaven. We haven't been there neither but we will. God is in Heaven so there is a Heaven.
    Apart of it. Do you think that sexual abuse belongs to the Church or just church goers? If some policemen are driving under alcohol influence and crashing another person's car, do we have to disappear the whole Police Department?
    It's easier for an atheist to commit sexual abuse than to a believer.
    Robert.
    - Chris P
      
      It cannot exist. All your memory dies with you.
      
      How is it easier for an atheist to break the law? Prove it. I haven't seen any atheist institutions being sued for sex crimes like the Roman Catholic Church. I thought the religious were "perfect'.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        What do you mean by religious?? The only one who ever walked this earth that was perfect was JESUS CHRIST. The rest of us are sinners. Christians are repentant sinners. Tho sinners who are not repentant sinners are "lost sinners"
    - JWDixon66
      
      The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of inmates per religion category:
      
      Response Number %
      
      —————————- ——–
      
      Catholic 29267 39.164%
      
      Protestant 26162 35.008%
      
      Muslim 5435 7.273%
      
      American Indian 2408 3.222%
      
      Nation 1734 2.320%
      
      Rasta 1485 1.987%
      
      Jewish 1325 1.773%
      
      Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
      
      Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
      
      Moorish 1066 1.426%
      
      Buddhist 882 1.180%
      
      Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
      
      Adventist 621 0.831%
      
      Orthodox 375 0.502%
      
      Mormon 298 0.399%
      
      Scientology 190 0.254%
      
      Atheist 156 0.209%
      
      Hindu 119 0.159%
      
      Santeria 117 0.157%
      
      Sikh 14 0.019%
      
      Bahai 9 0.012%
      
      Krishna 7 0.009%
      
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      Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
      http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
      
      Hmmm, atheists make up around 4-6% of the US population but are less than one quarter of one percent in prison populations. Catholics and Protestants make up 74%. Even those "peaceful" Muslims are adding 7.2% to the prison populations. So, who is the group actually engaging in anti-social, immoral behavior?
      - Evermyrtle
        
        Thanks for that report!
      - http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
        
        You are welcome.
      - DWoodPC
        
        QED not mine!!! thanks!
        Question: Just what was criteria? If they were Mormon, were they asked if they were "worthy" Mormons, for example, meaning in good standing with there church?
  - Evermyrtle
    
    No, I believe I am wasting my time trying to get heathens to see the truth and that they need to open their eyes to GOD'S truth. I hope I am wrong but I will continue to work for these lost ones, hoping that maybe, one will be saved because of my efforts. GOD would not have me to give up.
- Anne Gelinas
  
  You know the answer. They are testing God just like Satan tested Jesus Christ. Same goes for religions that run on ideologies that command obedience to their ideology and not to God directly. It is a test. Unfortunately many people are hurt and killed by these folks testing others. One can only hope that in the end , and I do not only hope but believe, that God is there and I want to be a sheep and inherit the kindgom with God when the time comes. The King of course if Jesus Christ and I definitely want to be with Him.
Chris P

The atheists identified the problem and brought it out in the open. The Churches on the other deliberately hide real sexual abuse.
- Anne Gelinas
  
  Calling the kettle black is old school. Why anyone hides sexual abuse is for one reason. The victim is embarrassed and most likely afraid to say something. You may bring a problem to the forefront about sexual abuse but cover something else up. No one is perfect and sexual abuse is rampant around the world. When sexual abuse is found out it is usually way past the time to do anything rational about it. Too much time has passed, and whether it is brought out immediately when found out or years later, it doesn't change the fact that we as a society have moral issues and sexual issues we are unable to control within ourselves. Throwing stones doesn't solve the issues of a immoral society gone
  rampant with sex.
  - annegelinas
    
    That is why God in the Commandments says, be true to your wife and you to your husband. " It is that simple. Now anyone having sex with their children or others' children, or other spouses or any sexual act with anyone or anything, is breaking God's Commandment. It is bigger than moral, it is bigger than life. It is a horrible act by humans against another human when it occurs. We as a society need to find a responsible and intelligent way to stop this sexual revolution before we degrade ourselves to the level of the animal kingdom. That is where we are headed and it must stop. If you cannot say it is wrong nor right because you have no moral code to gauge it by, then we are lost as a society. There is a wrong and there is a right. We as humans are responsible to make things right not continue to allow things to be wrong.
  - Guest
    
    Don't allow Satan's reporter to annoy you!!!
- handgunnar
  
  Right. That explains why you know so much about it. Maybe you ought to turn yourself in.
Esteban Cafe

The Humanist post-modern view of atheists offers a "survival of the fittest" philosophy that, boiled down and argued out, clearly states: "There is no right or wrong, only what works." Right and Wrong and capital "T" Truth are Judeo-Christian concepts that have no place in the public square or outside the home.

And what exactly "works" in the minds of Atheists, and how far can their philosophy take them? "I can kill you and your offspring and take your wife for my own sordid reproductive pleasures" is where it always ends up.

So, let the debate begin, but my experience is that this is where it always ends up—it has nowhere else to go but against Christian principles. Any takers? Come, let's reason together and see if we don't end up at this point.
- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
  
  It is easy to explain how morality and ethics evolved over time from a naturalist point of view. Mankind is inherently a social animal, like most primates. Behaviors that benefit the group are encouraged, while negative actions are shunned. Since cooperation helps the group, and murder does not, individuals who exhibit those traits are either welcomed or driven off. Over time, these traits form the basis of the social contract and become entrenched in society.
  
  Mankind is a social animal, as are most primates. He feels empathy for others, as do many primates. He helps people because we have learned as a species those behaviors which best benefit the group, as do most primates. Christians try and make it sound as if these are only attributes that religious people have. In reality, not only do most people exhibit them, but most primate societies do as well. Since other primate societies know nothing of the Christian concept of god, or have ever read the bible, it would seem odd to see them demonstrate these behaviors if they are correct. However, since man has developed from the same family as these other primate societies, it makes perfect sense why we, as well as other primate societies, exhibit the same type of group behavior.
  
  So, is there actually sin? There is no evil in the religious sense of sin, but there is right and wrong. As mankind developed, behaviors that benefited the species were considered good or "moral" and behaviors that were detrimental for the species were considered bad or "sin". After centuries of the behaviors working for the betterment of the species, they became ingrained into us. It is really not that hard to understand.
Buck

it is amazing how many people in the major companies and corporations are sodomists . That is the only reason I can think of to push for tolerance of sick perversions but NOT tolerate decency and morality . Athiests , like homosexuals , have NO problems like they are going to have on " judgement day ".
http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66

I do think thru my responses. There are many sexual predators that use churches to prey on kids. It is not my fault that they do and it is not my problem that you do not like that fact. They also use schools.
MexseikoMexseiko

Atheists sexual harrassment problem? Who cares? Ms. Watson opted out of TAM, perhaps fearing SH, but the word she used aw safety, which is more related to physical harm, perhaps rape?

Either way, who cares about whether Atheists are concerned or not about sexual harassment. Laws apply to everyone.

There are no such problems in heaven or hell. Once there, Atheists have a bigger fish to fry.
- http://rationalresponses.blogspot.com/ JWDixon66
  
  Ahem, Satan rebelled in heaven. There can be such problems there as well, according to your mythology.
Bud

What would you expect from a convention of Aetheists. They will not answer to any moral authority other than the local police. Who would be naive enough to think that any moral code there might be in force? Would any non-prosituted woman attend an aetheist convention, without some kind of protection?