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	<title>Comments on: Pastors Empowered to Speak Boldly About Abortion</title>
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		<title>By: Xanadu4024</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/06/pastors-empowered-to-speak-boldly-about-abortion/#comment-172869</link>
		<dc:creator>Xanadu4024</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah you idiot tell me that killing an unborn baby is ok, Gods will, all that AND your taking many verses out of context and trying to make it RIGHT for a woman to run out, have sex indiscriminately and kill the baby. God have mercy on your lying soul. Also a lot of the &quot;laws&quot; of old no longer matter and are succeeded by the coming of the messiah Jesus Christ. ALSO a lot of the old testament &quot;rules&quot; etc were for health reasons etc.
ITS LIVING, YOU KILL IT, ITS DEAD! Bio genesis proves the fact life never comes from inanimate things (unless you ARE God/Jesus), but you can make living things inanimate or IE dead.
Lets go see babies inutero  and watch them as early as first trimester do some amazing things. IT IS ALIVE. Now how about we KILL the criminals who are killing multiple people instead of keeping them alive in jail.
Also let open up orphanages again with saved money, let people come in and after a fairly extensive interview process, proof they are not on WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS,ETC. Like have a job ,home,etc and let babies be adopted, cut out majority of the lawyers, judges, etc. AND outrageous costs involved. You want to let every slut kill multiple babies but probably believe that Jarrod Laughner, the idiot Islamic Psycho from Fort Hood and others like them should be given a fed drugs, let free to go do it again.
Quit trying to kill babies, KILL MURDERERS and serial rapists and multiple felony arrest people, three strikes, you swing unless you can prove you deserve some semblance of leniency.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah you idiot tell me that killing an unborn baby is ok, Gods will, all that AND your taking many verses out of context and trying to make it RIGHT for a woman to run out, have sex indiscriminately and kill the baby. God have mercy on your lying soul. Also a lot of the "laws" of old no longer matter and are succeeded by the coming of the messiah Jesus Christ. ALSO a lot of the old testament "rules" etc were for health reasons etc.<br />
ITS LIVING, YOU KILL IT, ITS DEAD! Bio genesis proves the fact life never comes from inanimate things (unless you ARE God/Jesus), but you can make living things inanimate or IE dead.<br />
Lets go see babies inutero  and watch them as early as first trimester do some amazing things. IT IS ALIVE. Now how about we KILL the criminals who are killing multiple people instead of keeping them alive in jail.<br />
Also let open up orphanages again with saved money, let people come in and after a fairly extensive interview process, proof they are not on WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS,ETC. Like have a job ,home,etc and let babies be adopted, cut out majority of the lawyers, judges, etc. AND outrageous costs involved. You want to let every slut kill multiple babies but probably believe that Jarrod Laughner, the idiot Islamic Psycho from Fort Hood and others like them should be given a fed drugs, let free to go do it again.<br />
Quit trying to kill babies, KILL MURDERERS and serial rapists and multiple felony arrest people, three strikes, you swing unless you can prove you deserve some semblance of leniency.  </p>
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		<title>By: fliteking</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/06/pastors-empowered-to-speak-boldly-about-abortion/#comment-172715</link>
		<dc:creator>fliteking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d guess abortion encompasses your life, no? 


Abortion is murder. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd guess abortion encompasses your life, no? </p>
<p>Abortion is murder. </p>
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		<title>By: Wesley</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/06/pastors-empowered-to-speak-boldly-about-abortion/#comment-172669</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we live in a country where &quot;We The People&quot; are caesar not the congress, judges, or president.  the left has used Johnson IRS amendment to silent the truth which was LBJ full intent for he was a communist like our president who has declared war on Christianity through his unconstitution obamacare even though cj roberts declares it constitutional as a tax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we live in a country where "We The People" are caesar not the congress, judges, or president.  the left has used Johnson IRS amendment to silent the truth which was LBJ full intent for he was a communist like our president who has declared war on Christianity through his unconstitution obamacare even though cj roberts declares it constitutional as a tax.</p>
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		<title>By: far2right</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/06/pastors-empowered-to-speak-boldly-about-abortion/#comment-172606</link>
		<dc:creator>far2right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Completely agree.


This could have a way of smoking out the false &quot;churches&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree.</p>
<p>This could have a way of smoking out the false "churches".</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pastors need to quit objecting to fair criticism.  For example, the bible says nothing against abortion, in fact, about half of pregnancies are aborted spontaneously, often before the woman even knows she was pregnant.
Pastors need to stop the myths about abortions.  (Late ones are done only to save the lives or health of the mothers.  Women are more at risk from normal full-term pregnancies than of abortions in sterile, safe environments.  www.thisismyabortion.com
If I remember right the bible doesn&#039;t condone lying!

Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not considered a human life: 

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from 
her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the 
woman&#039;s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And 
if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. -- Exodus 21:22-23 

The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old: 

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation 
shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation 
shall be three shekels of silver. -- Leviticus 
27:6 

Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons: 

Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their 
families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And 
Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. -- Numbers 3:15-16 

God sometimes approves of killing fetuses: 

And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now 
therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath 
known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17 

(Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been 
killed along with their unborn fetuses.) 

Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry 
breasts. -- Hosea 9:14 

Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of 
their womb. -- Hosea 9:16 

Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they 
shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their 
women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 
13:16 

God sometimes kills newborn babies to punish their parents: 

Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the 
LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- 2 Samuel 12:14 

God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives: 

The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath 
among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to 
swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make 
thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. 
... 
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to 
pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that 
the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and 
her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse 
among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall 
be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 
27-28 

God&#039;s law sometimes requires the execution (by burning to death) of pregnant 
women: 

Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is 
with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. 
-- Genesis 38:24 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastors need to quit objecting to fair criticism.  For example, the bible says nothing against abortion, in fact, about half of pregnancies are aborted spontaneously, often before the woman even knows she was pregnant.<br />
Pastors need to stop the myths about abortions.  (Late ones are done only to save the lives or health of the mothers.  Women are more at risk from normal full-term pregnancies than of abortions in sterile, safe environments.  <a href="http://www.thisismyabortion.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisismyabortion.com</a><br />
If I remember right the bible doesn't condone lying!</p>
<p>Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not considered a human life: </p>
<p>If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from<br />
her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the<br />
woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And<br />
if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. &#8212; Exodus 21:22-23 </p>
<p>The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old: </p>
<p>And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation<br />
shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation<br />
shall be three shekels of silver. &#8212; Leviticus<br />
27:6 </p>
<p>Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons: </p>
<p>Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their<br />
families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And<br />
Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. &#8212; Numbers 3:15-16 </p>
<p>God sometimes approves of killing fetuses: </p>
<p>And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? &#8230; Now<br />
therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath<br />
known man by lying with him. &#8212; Numbers 31:15-17 </p>
<p>(Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been<br />
killed along with their unborn fetuses.) </p>
<p>Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry<br />
breasts. &#8212; Hosea 9:14 </p>
<p>Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of<br />
their womb. &#8212; Hosea 9:16 </p>
<p>Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they<br />
shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their<br />
women with child shall be ripped up. &#8212; Hosea<br />
13:16 </p>
<p>God sometimes kills newborn babies to punish their parents: </p>
<p>Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the<br />
LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. &#8212; 2 Samuel 12:14 </p>
<p>God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives: </p>
<p>The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath<br />
among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to<br />
swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make<br />
thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.<br />
&#8230;<br />
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to<br />
pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that<br />
the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and<br />
her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse<br />
among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall<br />
be free, and shall conceive seed. &#8212; Numbers 5:21-21,<br />
27-28 </p>
<p>God's law sometimes requires the execution (by burning to death) of pregnant<br />
women: </p>
<p>Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is<br />
with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt.<br />
&#8211; Genesis 38:24 </p>
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		<title>By: sadnana</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/06/pastors-empowered-to-speak-boldly-about-abortion/#comment-172597</link>
		<dc:creator>sadnana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if a church were to lose its tax-exempt status I don&#039;t believe they can justify remaining silent in the face of evil. If they are doing the will of God He will provide for them. And if a pastor or any believer is sent to jail for speaking the truth of God&#039;s Word so be it. There are many souls in prison who need to hear the Gospel.
Personally I would rather belong to a church that loses everything and has to worship on the street than to remain silent about the moral issues that have led to the imminent collapse of our country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if a church were to lose its tax-exempt status I don't believe they can justify remaining silent in the face of evil. If they are doing the will of God He will provide for them. And if a pastor or any believer is sent to jail for speaking the truth of God's Word so be it. There are many souls in prison who need to hear the Gospel.<br />
Personally I would rather belong to a church that loses everything and has to worship on the street than to remain silent about the moral issues that have led to the imminent collapse of our country.</p>
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		<title>By: far2right</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/06/pastors-empowered-to-speak-boldly-about-abortion/#comment-172574</link>
		<dc:creator>far2right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We shall see how any such pastors remain true when the IRS comes calling to revoke their tax exempt status simply because the IRS brands them a political entity.


I believe very soon preaching against the sins of preborn baby infanticide, homosexuality, etc. will be deemed political topics by big gov&#039;t.  Shut a preacher&#039;s mouth by threatening to take away his church&#039;s tax exempt status.


That is how big gov&#039;t will make pastors toe the line.


If so, will pastors put God and country above the bottom line?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shall see how any such pastors remain true when the IRS comes calling to revoke their tax exempt status simply because the IRS brands them a political entity.</p>
<p>I believe very soon preaching against the sins of preborn baby infanticide, homosexuality, etc. will be deemed political topics by big gov't.  Shut a preacher's mouth by threatening to take away his church's tax exempt status.</p>
<p>That is how big gov't will make pastors toe the line.</p>
<p>If so, will pastors put God and country above the bottom line?</p>
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		<title>By: fliteking</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/06/pastors-empowered-to-speak-boldly-about-abortion/#comment-172454</link>
		<dc:creator>fliteking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. Strongly. And at this time Silence is not an option for Conservatives. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Strongly. And at this time Silence is not an option for Conservatives. </p>
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		<title>By: Evermyrtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evermyrtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The government does not have a right to tell ministers what they can speak on or what they cannot speak on.  That is not their business, however hare they are trying to enforce such atrocity. GOD have us a complete Bible, not bits and pieces to suit them, which only includes subjects that is not against their personal style of evil, ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government does not have a right to tell ministers what they can speak on or what they cannot speak on.  That is not their business, however hare they are trying to enforce such atrocity. GOD have us a complete Bible, not bits and pieces to suit them, which only includes subjects that is not against their personal style of evil, </p>
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