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Missouri voters approve public prayer amendment

Missouri voters approved an amendment to the state constitution Tuesday that proponents say will help ensure the right to pray in public.

The amendment was on a statewide ballot and had widespread support, though critics said the right to pray is already protected under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.

State GOP Rep. Mike McGhee and other supporters agreed, but they said Amendment 2 is really an effort to make the state constitution match the U.S. Constitution and protect Christianity, which they said is under attack.

McGhee, whose legislation led to the amendment proposal, told FoxNews.com about an incident in which a teacher told a kindergartner singing “Jesus Loves Me” while swinging on the playground to instead sing “mommy loves me.”

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  • Evermyrtle

    Any teacher that accosts child for singing,"JESUS love me" should be fired. Anyway why not "Daddy loves me?"

    • Larry

      How about, "Father loves me."

      • fort9erdon

        How about "the" original, "Jesus loves me"! Proud of you Missouri! Texas supports you!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-B-Severy/557985964 David B Severy

      Abba loves me!

  • Chris

    "Christianity is under attack" – - self destruction more like.

    • fliteking

      chris shows his (her?) intolerance once again.

      Hoping to deny rights of others chris continues to push the selectively inclusive liberal agenda.

      • KnowTheTruthToday

        So what do expect from a handful of radicals?

    • Navy Retired.

      As usual your ignorance and intolerance shines through loud and clear.

    • KnowTheTruthToday

      Same old baloney – you never really have anything to say – so why say it?

  • Robert Young

    Way to go Missouri. All States should have or enact a similar law.

    • fatal42

      I'm proud of the people of Missouri !!!

  • Bighoss

    This amendment is obviously unnecessary. It is the product of political posturing by legislators to placate their conservative constituencies by purporting to address threats to religious freedom that do not, in fact, exist. The right to pray in public is well-protected, insofar as the praying is not performed as an element of some governmental proceeding as, for instance, an exclusively Christian prayer ("in Jesus' name") used during a city council meeting. Such prayers, when offered without any opportunity for representatives of other beliefs to offer prayer, constitute an endorsement of one religion over others and are thus unconstitutional.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2939291/missouri-voters-ok-right-to-pray.html#storylink=cpy

    • KnowTheTruthToday

      You are right this is already protected, but you do have a handful of radicals that would prohibit it and violate rights – that is the reason this happens.

    • Jen

      So sorry Bighoss – you are so misled. Christianity is totally under attack and has been for quite some time. People are grossly offended at the gracious blessing of "Merry Christmas", a holiday that virtually everyone in America celebrates and takes off from work? We are insulted if we have Nativity Scenes in our yards, and the ACLU is out to get coaches who privately pray in their offices on their lunch hour before eating when not working (See the case in State University of Florida). Look at what is happening in Dearborn, Michigan. Christians are getting arrested for standing on the PUBLIC street corner simply handing out the Gospel of John because it offends the Muslim population there. This is somehow deemed "disturbing the peace". check out the video of it on youtube. The current administration attacks the entire Catholic faith under a clause of employee benefits by forcing the Catholic church to go against its faith and values by forcing the church to provide it's employees with birth control. If you can not see that there is an attack on Christians and their values after the latest example in the news with Chick-Fil-A and the Miss America case in Ca, than you are not staying very educated.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Crowder/100003089905700 John Crowder

        Remedies for the instances of interference with freedom of religion that you and others have described are already established in existing law. The kinds of circumstances that you and others have described are not commonplace, but whenever such things happen and are reported, the right wing propaganda machine gets cranked up and treats these isolated instances as though they they were happening all the time and all over the country. The Missouri law is redundant.

    • Dave Horvath

      Bighoss: Tell that to the group of kids who were removed from the Lincoln Memorial by National Park Service personnel last year….because they prayed.

    • Robert Courtney

      Sorry, but you are mistaken, it IS needed.
      And all you have to do is see the 891 LAWSUITS that are in the courts, Nationally, against Christian events.
      60% of these are by the ACLU and about half are brought forth by the Atheists. Guess who has the rest. Can't say as then this post would be deleted. But, they are Christian haters.
      And THAT seems to be popular, now a days, although, like it or not, America started out as a Judeo CHRISTIAN Nation. The freedom of religion would not even be there if it wasn't because the Colonies were so rigid in their religion, they wouldn't sign on as a Republic until it was made certain that Judeo Christian values were not infringed, as well as Amish and others.
      Like it or not, that is FACT!
      The Christian Haters win often because they choose the weaker, financially, communities and individuals and win by default.
      This is one reason we need TORT reform and LOSER PAY laws.
      But we don't have that, so YES the amendment is needed to put forth "Freedom OF Religion", not "Freedom FROM Religion", as the Atheists are trying to corrupt the term.

  • BILL CAMOTA

    This is very good and Christian Parents are the best teachers. Every State should do this.

  • whitestone57

    America Is Not BOLSHEVIK…….YET"! Silent Majority……..CHI-FIL-A, Etc.

  • Mys77

    What kind of teacher would do this??? Has common sense left these airheads???? I would tell that little girl to sing louder….this teacher needs salvation!!!!!

    • fort9erdon

      You know, I have never figured a "kick in the seat of the pants" as Salvation, but I can see how it might point some folks in the right direction. That's what this teacher needs is a good kick in the seat of the pants, …….. with love, ……. of course!

    • Evermyrtle

      Likely see was a liberal anti-GOD teacher.

  • Dave

    Way to go Missouri, thats why you are called the "Show Me" state.

  • emjay98

    It has been an inexorable slide downhill in civility and common decency since the advent of not allowing reading a bible passage before school classes begin and, or, reciting the Lord's prayer. We have seen the whole of our civilization turning into constant tumult and angry rhetoric from those that have no ingrained religious principles and those who define themselves as Christian. Look where it has gotten us. Whether or not you agree, it seems as if the common practice of starting the school day with those two actions (Bible reading and Prayer) had a very good effect on the children at that time. They were introduced to the reality that they were accountable for their actions and encouraged to take the road to a more acceptable behavior.

  • Carol G.

    Because Jesus is our Daddy & more important than a human one. Dads are important–I think of mine everyday & they help a child grow up to establish a good relationship so he can understand the relationship between him/her & her Heavenly Father.

  • Mitch Sagraves

    Simply put……YOU GO MISSOURI!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Gil

    I am a MO voter who voted against the amendment. Wait, don't get me wrong, I am a Christian and for prayer and Bible study in school. I ask the question before the election day and NO ONE could answer it for me. "Won't this amendment allow Muslims to pray using their prayer rugs twice a day?" Have yet to get an answer.

    • mallen11

      They already are allowed to do it in SF CA at one corporation where a friend of mine works. They go behind empty desk areas. The more believers turn back to God the more this evil cancerous religion will not continue to take over our way of life. We are allowing it to consume our thoughts instead of what God's Word says.
      II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and
      Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.

    • PaulN

      Of course they could; to the extent that Christians can pray in the same locations. Why would you want to restrict one religion over another? That is the heart of our First Ammendment! Do you doubt the power of our God to overcome this? Our founding fathers did not doubt it! I believe they COUNTED on it!

    • Beth

      Well, duh!!! That's what freedom of religion is!!!

  • Tom

    Bravo! This is a way to stand up to the ACLU and their secular, agnostic, and atheist followers.

  • Jen

    So sorry Bighoss – you are so misled. Christianity is totally under attack and has been for quite some time. People are grossly offended at the gracious blessing of "Merry Christmas", a holiday that virtually everyone in America celebrates and takes off from work? We are insulted if we have Nativity Scenes in our yards, and the ACLU is out to get coaches who privately pray in their offices on their lunch hour before eating when not working (See the case in State University of Florida). Look at what is happening in Dearborn, Michigan. Christians are getting arrested for standing on the PUBLIC street corner simply handing out the Gospel of John because it offends the Muslim population there. This is somehow deemed "disturbing the peace". check out the video of it on youtube. The current administration attacks the entire Catholic faith under a clause of employee benefits by forcing the Catholic church to go against its faith and values by forcing the church to provide it's employees with birth control. If you can not see that there is an attack on Christians and their values after the latest example in the news with Chick-Fil-A and the Miss America case in Ca, than you are not staying very educated.

    • Jeff Dixon

      Christianity is not under attack in the USA. It is simply being required to follow the same rules as everyone else for the first time in 200 years and Christians are outraged by that.

      • Cindy P.

        Christianity has always been under attack from the beginning. It's in the Bible and history.

        • Jeff Dixon

          For most of the past 2,000 years, Christianity has been the attacker, not the attacked.

          • Mary Wood

            Consider the alignment of Christians during WWII with Hitler.

          • Jeff Dixon

            Hitler was Catholic, i.e. Christian. Many Protestants agreed with Hitler as well.

          • Mary Wood

            Hitler told the people all the right things: "…regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life." sound familiar?

            quote accessed 080912 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler see public statements of Adolph Hitler.

          • Mary Wood

            You are so right Jeff, here is a quote from Hitler on wiki, said he: "…regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life." sound familiar? quote wikipedia, see public statements of Adolph Hitler.

          • Evermyrtle

            I'm sure you can't help being ignorant, but do you have to prove it over and over? You could keep quiet and maybe nobody would know it!.

          • Mary Wood

            Myrtle (Annie),
            Consider the alignment of Christians during WWII with Hitler.

          • Jeff Dixon

            I am sure you would love it if you could make me be silent, but sorry, you have not the power, the will or the intellectual capacity.

          • Michael G.

            Just keep on trukin.'

          • Mexseiko

            How has Christianity been attacker? The fact that you can attack Christianity in this manner proves that the enemy has infiltrated or acted under the name of Christianity and done terrible things to distort the reputation of Jesus. It has had effect of your radiation and slander and your own spiritual demise.

          • Mary Wood

            for starters see: Alexander the Great
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_Alexander_the_Great
            Religious wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
            spanish inquisition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
            Queen Anne, scroll down to see religious policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England

          • Dennis

            No Jeff.Men using christianity to do their will upon other men has been the attackers.A religion cannot attack anyone.

          • Jeff Dixon

            Semantics. it does not change what occurred.

          • Evermyrtle

            Get out your reading glasses, so that you can read about people being jailed for having worship services in their homes, Christian badges being taken from children at school,outlawing Christina praying in public places, people being arrested for reading the Bible in public places,. laws being passed favoring abortion and homosexuality both of which are an abomination to GOD and to JESUS CHRIST. I could go on for ages listing anti Christian acts and laws.

            You do read this stuff and egg the liberal government along and tear at Christians fighting for their rights.

  • ldtempleton

    A step in the right direction. We have freedom to practice religion rather than freedom from religion.

    • Jeff Dixon

      We have both

  • wattsupstupid

    I really like this part of the Bill and hope that all States would adopt this:
    Another part of the amendment sparking controversy is a section that reads "no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/07/missouri-votes-tuesday-on-amendment-to-fortify-public-prayer/#ixzz22ytOtbuK

  • aussiewoman

    mr Cain is absolutely right, and who better to school us in the purpose and use of mosques than the muslims themselves? Let me quote Prime Minister Erdogan of Turkey, a supposedly "moderate" muslim country currently seeking to join the European Union, and now introducing Sharia Law, and calling for the veiling of women, and stoning laws, hanging gays etc ( take note of the military style language for the so called " religion of peace") …
    The Mosques are our Barracks

    The Domes are our Helmets

    The Minarets our Bayonets

    The Believers our soldiers
    Erdogan is calling for a return to the world Caliphate of the Ottoman Empire, which was finally dismantled not even a hundred years ago..
    So go for it Mr Cain, you have history on your side and the confirmation of PM Erdogan of what mosques seek to accomplish, and their purpose…please ignore the leftwing naysayers here, those ignorant troglodites need a history lesson, they need to learn from the old but true adage " if we ignore history we are bound to repeat it"

  • John J flanagan

    The issue will not end there. The ACLU, the organized atheist terrorists, and activist judges will try to get this blocked by some kind of legal decision. It was the will of the people of California to retain traditional marriage, as in my state of Arizona. So what do these progressives do? They turn around and use whatever will work to overcome the will of the people. The best way to ensure that these laws remain in effect is to select Christian judges who make decisions based on the Constitution, and elect only conservatives in other offices, including your local school boards. Progressives use even minor elected offices to move up and really do damage to the nation, as in the case of many of the Democrats now in office. Christian voters need to finally recognize that they have no friend in the Democratic Party, the party of Hollywood, the ACLU, the abortion industry, and the radical gay movement.

    • Patriot

      That is EXACTLY how Communism takes over – one small election for an unimportant office, then another, and so on – especially secretary offices where they control communication. It's insidious and this is what's happening here – just look at the school boards, congress, etc. infiltrated by moslems pushing sharia law, anti Christians, agnostics, etc. We had better awaken and SOON!

      • Jeff Dixon

        No, they actually just wage civil war. Have you ever studied how Russia or China became communist states?

  • Kris

    We approved it and now waiting to see if liberal gov. Nixon will veto it!!!! Were trying to get him out along with McAskill and Cleaver!!!!!!!!

    • Ruby

      Amen!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-K-Bare/1754368512 Donald K Bare

    Thank you Missouri for standing up for your rights and for prayer. I think the rest of our Great Nation should follow your State. I beleive if we all stick together, God will return back to us and help us in our times of needs.

  • Marilyn K. Smith

    I thank you, Missouri voters! A great amendment! Now, how many of us will take advantage of that amendment and really pray in public? I would love to see people in Missouri and all over this country getting down on their knees in their own yards, homes, parks, all public places everywhere and praying. So let all people have freedom of prayer. Any kind of prayer. That right is what gives us as Christians the ability to keep praying openly and faithfully. Others will come around to Jesus when they observe what happens when God hears prayers and touches a nation with His Almighty hand. They will know Who to pray to eventually because our prayers will be for their understanding and salvation. And we know what happens when we –"those called by my name"– pray to the Only One who answers prayers. Amen!

    • Jeff Dixon

      Actually, that would be the nicest gift you could give to Atheism. Please, start praying by the millions for something to change. Create prayer groups with millions praying for the same thing. When it does not occur, you will have proven our point.

      • Mary Wood

        : )

      • PaulN

        And if our prayer was answered would YOU believe?

        • Jeff Dixon

          It depends on the prayer. If you prayed for it to rain, no I would not. However, the day you show me an amputee that regrew an arm or leg after being prayed for, I will believe.

          • PaulN

            That makes you a bigger fool since Christians would know better than to pray for something that spectacular just for God to prove Himself to you! You, like so many other so-called atheists are so afraid to be proven wrong that you must set the bar so high you are assured it will not happen. Be brave; set your expectations more reasonable and open your eyes and heart. He may just see fit to prove Himself to you!

          • Jeff Dixon

            How can there be any bar for an all powerful god? You show little faith in his ability to perform miracles.

          • PaulN

            I have much faith; He could do it, but I am no fool! Can you say the same? (The question is rhetorical as you have already proven your stance. You have no faith and in matters relating to God, you are a fool)

          • Jeff Dixon

            You claim he could do it, but since it has never occurred, you have no way to support that opinion. The bible gets many things wrong.

          • Vladimir

            Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed

          • Jeff Dixon

            Doubting Thomas got to touch the wound. I simply ask for the same consideration.

          • Vladimir

            Jeff, Thomas got to touch the wounds of the Lord because as an apostle he needed to be able to give an apostolic testimony. We aren't apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ and do not have the right to that experience. You need to gain your testimony of Him by other means.

          • Jeff Dixon

            Well, since your god is all powerful, it would not be difficult for him to allow this at all. The reason he does not is because he does not exist.

          • Mary Wood

            Have you always been an atheist Jeff? I mean do you ever remember when you believed the pastor, or your parents? Do you know Winter Quarters, Missouri? Have you been to the Harry Truman Library? Do you know what the Kansas City machine is? Do you have trees in the town where you grew up?

          • Jeff Dixon

            I have never believed. Even as a child, I knew the stories were false.

          • Mary Wood

            If you had grown up in our community you would have been Catholic and an altar boy

          • Jeff Dixon

            I was an alter boy in the Methodist church. It did not help to make me believe.

          • Mary Wood

            How sweet anyway…

          • Mary Wood

            I did not know the Methodist Church had altar boys. Then do they have sacrament services like a mass in the Catholic churches?

          • Jeff Dixon

            Never been a catholic churches sacrament service. What I helped with was lighting the candles when the service started and putting them out afterwards.

          • Mary Wood

            I am stunned! I hope you have pictures of those rare events!

          • Jeff Dixon

            I have not lived in Ks for over 20 years.

          • Vladimir

            Jeff Dixon, you stated, "…since your god is all powerful, it would not be difficult for him to allow this…". God has His purposes and one of them is not satisfying your idle curiosity. You know perfectly well that we are in mortality, away from Him so we can acquire and build faith in Jesus Christ. He is not going to destroy that so Jeff Dixon can no longer say He doesn't exist.

          • Jeff Dixon

            I do not "know" that at all. Simply because you believe that to be true hardly makes it so. Besides, since we supposedly cannot know the mind of god, how do you know satisfying my curiosity is not part of his plan?

          • Cindy P

            You underestimate yourself and God, you already have been given the "faith" to believe. It's all in the want to.

          • Jeff Dixon

            You can "want" to believe in superstitious nonsense all you like. As for me, I prefer to deal with reality.

      • Ruby

        Obviously Mr. Dixon you have not read much of history… Our Creator, answers many prayers daily, the fact that you get to breath another day is proof of that because there are many CHRISTIANS that pray for your kind daily. I am one of them. And yes I know you really don't need my prayers, but YOU really do. I have watched the morals and civility of this country go so far downhill that it is sickening. And almost all of it can be attributed to your god and mentor, Madeline. She was the devil incarnate and all atheist should have learned a lesson from her and her family's outcome. Give it up, YOU WILL NEVER CONVINCE A CHRISTIAN THAT GOD AND HIS SON, CHRIST are a figment of someone's imagination. There is far to much evidence to the contrary.

        • Jeff Dixon

          You obviously do not understand what the word evidence means.

          • moemoe5

            Have you ever been to the Holy Land, mainly Israel? If so the mountains of evidence are remarkable. It is YOU who does not understand.

          • Jeff Dixon

            For example?

          • Evermyrtle

            We do understand where you are coming from, Jeffy, from Satan's classroom. He always lies to his people and cause them to believe crazy things. For you to ever change you must get away from him.

          • Jeff Dixon

            One cannot get away from something that does not exist.

          • Mary Wood

            If any classroom, it was the Lord's, Myrtle; furthermore, if there was such a classroom, the Lord taught him and gave him the gift of reason there. That, you must admit, he does have. And he does not dismiss totally the existence of God, he simply does not see the evidence of His existence. Is that a contradiction? : ) Don't you see that?

          • petroskhan

            It seems to me, Jeff, that what you are seeking is not a reason to have faith, but irrefutable, concrete proof, something which undeniably evidences a Creator. This would make faith unnecessary. You would have no option but to acknowledge that God exists, and is all-powerful. Since you have stated that you have read the Bible, tell me this. Of what use is someone who has no choice but to believe? Of what use is God's goal of having those who kept their faith in the face of adversity, if there was no choice to be made in the first place?

          • Jeff Dixon

            I have never stated I am looking for a reason to have faith. Faith is a belief without evidence. Religion is the only arena in life where that is considered to be an acceptable option for believing something to be true. Well, it is not an acceptable reason to believe something.

          • petroskhan

            Allow me to clarify the first part of my statement; I didn't mean to imply that you were looking for a reason to have faith. I was intending to point out that you don't seem interested in faith at all, but were approaching the subject of religion with a strong bias, and not being open to the possibility of having faith at all.

            I suppose that it would be better and more clear to rephrase the question which presented in my previous post. If you (or anyone/everyone) had the substantial, irrefutable proof of the existence and power of God that you insist would be required for you to "believe", would there be such a thing as faith, or a need for it?

          • Jeff Dixon

            No, there would not be. And there should not be. Consider Adam and Moses and Abraham. God appears to all of them. Believe by faith alone was not necessary for the founders of the faith of the biblical god. Yet, we are supposed to believe by faith alone. This is supposedly the wisdom of the most intelligent being in the universe.

          • petroskhan

            In stating that there should not be a need for faith, you do realize that what you are saying is that there should be no choice available, don't you? Irrefutable proof voids choice.

          • Jeff Dixon

            If there was a god, why would letting people be completely aware of his existence be a bad thing? Religion incorporates the idea of choosing to believe because of faith because there is nothing concrete to support the idea of a god.

          • petroskhan

            "If there was a god, why would letting people be completely aware of his existence be a bad thing?"

            As I stated, if it is obvious, irrefutable, and directly perceivable, then you remove choice from the equation.

            You can't choose to not believe in a god who works miracles, or gives other evidence of his existence every day.

          • Jeff Dixon

            But you do not address why that is a bad thing.

          • petroskhan

            I didn't say it was a BAD thing, I said it was pointless.

            God wants those who CHOSE to follow Him, not when it is easy, but when it is difficult, through times of trouble, and in the presence of those who ridicule faith, and belittle or persecute those who choose to follow Him.

            Perhaps better stated in 1 Peter 1:
            5 While you were kept by the power of Elohim, being guarded through faith to a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time;
            6 wherein you will rejoice forever, not withstanding, at the present time you are pressed a little, by the various trials that have come upon you;
            7 so that the proving of your faith, much more precious than perishing gold, but having been proved through fire, may be made manifest to praise and honor and glory at the revelation of Yahshua Messiah;
            8 whom having not seen, yet you love; and in whose faith you rejoice with exceeding joy that cannot be described.
            9 And you will receive the reward of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

          • Jeff Dixon

            Yet, he has worked his will through people who did not have to believe by faith alone. Why are Abraham, Noah or Moses considered to be such great examples of believers since they did not believe by faith alone? Why was Doubting Thomas allowed to touch the wounds? Why did the Disciples get to see the resurrected Christ?

          • petroskhan

            Yes, there were those born in the right place, right time, etc. to observe the events of their times. Naturally, we couldn't all be around to observe everything that we would like to have seen. I'm sure Noah would have loved to have seen Christ heal people, or raise the dead. I'm sure that Thomas would have enjoyed seeing God craft the tablets with the 10 Commandments.

            Each of us is born to the time period wherein in we live. We are given what that time in the world's history has to offer us. It is similar to the parable of the talents in Matthew 25, with which I am sure you are familiar. We are given a certain amount of faith, or information/exposure to God. What we do with that is up to us.

            And on that note, I would say, being as objective as possible, that being a follower and believer of God today requires more faith than Moses, Abraham, or Noah possessed. If this is true, then how great a reward can we expect from God for following Him, when all we have is the evidence of the past, and our faith in Him?

          • Jeff Dixon

            That is where you and I differ. You believe the stories of those others. I do not. I am not pointing out that they got to see because I am envious of that. I am pointing out that the bible is always contradictory.

          • petroskhan

            "I am pointing out that the bible is always contradictory."

            That is where you and I differ, as well. :D

          • Vladimir

            Jeff Dixon said, "Faith is a belief without evidence". I can't believe you-all let that pass without setting him straight. Isn't anyone reading this blog?

          • Jeff Dixon

            faith/fāTH/
            Noun:Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

      • Evermyrtle

        For once your are correct Jeff, even if you have no clue how powerful Christians prayers are. You are exactly right, and you will be very surprised, if all of GOD'S people pray something great happens, because GOD always answers prayers.

        II Chron. 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

        • Jeff Dixon

          Great. I will be looking forward to the amazing story of an arm or leg being regrown on an amputee after millions of Christians pray for it to occur.

          • Mary Wood

            I think it has to be done in secret and you will be rewarded openly, otherwise it won't work. It sort of like the uncertainty principle, if it is observed, the outcome changes. That is proved unequivocally in quantum mechanics.

          • Jeff Dixon

            I am perfectly willing to state that if it occurs, I will not invoke quantum mechanics to claim it did not happen or that some other factor made it occur. It will never occur because it is impossible for humans to regrow limbs. Therefore, if it occurs, I will accept god did it. However, I will also state that Christians will never pray for this in such a public forum because they also know it cannot occur.

          • Mary Wood

            I agree the particular regrowing of limbs wouldn't occur. I intended to reference prayer in a more general way as in families praying for outcomes versus families not praying for outcomes such as in the case of surgery on a family member… only recalling that prior example.

          • Jeff Dixon

            What prior example?

          • Mary Wood

            I anticipated that question.. Did I cover it?

          • Jeff Dixon

            Is there any way to determine if prayer actually works? Actually, there is. There have been numerous studies on prayer for medical patients that show that when the patient does not know they are being prayed for, there is no difference in the recovery rate between patients. And even more interesting is a recent comprehensive study done for patients of heart surgery. What it found is that patients who knowingly received prayers developed more post-surgery complications than did patients who unknowingly received prayers—and patients who were prayed for did no better than patients who weren't prayed for. In fact, patients who received prayers without their knowledge ended up with more major complications than did patients who received no prayers at all.

            In other words, not only did prayer not help, in some cases, it actually hurt the patients.

            When people believe that God is answering their prayers, they are simply getting a result based on the laws of probability. Nothing more, nothing less. So, does God answer prayers? The odds are not so good for that.

            If your God won't answer a molested child's prayer what makes you think he'll answer yours? -Chris O'Rourke‏

          • Mary Wood

            This is a very sad commentary upon the practice of prayer in which so many have placed their faith.

    • Evermyrtle

      This is exactly what we need to recover, we cannot do it without turning BACK to GOD and HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST as a nation!!.

  • ANH

    Good for Missouri. But someone needs to fire that teacher. She needs to leave her personal political or religious beliefs at home.

  • Evermyrtle

    thank GOD there area a few people who will stand their ground. How many states are there who has made such a decision?

  • truer

    Some good news for a change. Good for them and it makes me proud.

  • new1949

    The shameful part is that Christian's thought they had to do this because their constititutional rights were not being upheld.

  • new1949

    To add to that is if the so called teacher did not know what a person rights are under the constitution she should not be teaching.

  • zohiogalz

    Hats off to Missouri!!!!!!

  • Bob

    GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE OF MISSOURI