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Study: Spike in Full Nudity on Broadcast TV

The Parents Television Council (PTC) on Monday released results of a research analysis of nudity on prime-time broadcast television—and the results may shock (and even disgust) you.

During the 2011-2012 season there were 76 incidents of full nudity on 37 shows compared to 15 incidents in 14 shows the previous year, representing a 407 percent increase in incidents. What's more, almost 70 percent of the scenes that depicted full nudity during the 2011–2012 study period were on shows that aired before 9 p.m. and as early as 7 p.m. In comparison, 50 percent of the full nudity scenes aired after 9 p.m. the previous year.

Out of 76 instances of full nudity during the 2011–2012 study period, only five of those depictions occurred on shows that contained an "S" descriptor alerting parents to the explicit adult content. And relative to full-frontal nudity, one instance occurred during the 2010–2011 study period and by the same time the following year, 64 instances of full-frontal nudity had aired. This represents a 6,300 percent increase in just one year.

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  • outtie

    I stopped watching prime time television a long time ago. It's unfortunate that the degredation of our society is led by a handful of people in hollywood.

    • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

      Ditto here. I only watch reruns of a few selected shows from the 50's, 60's and early 70's, and movies that I know something about ahead of time.

  • Chris

    Wow – ho do you guys handle going swimming then? How do you handle communal showers? What happens when the kids go to school? Bunch of prudes. Better put skirts on your piano legs and make sure your pets all wear clothes. Asinine.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

      Chris, you sound like a pervert that thrives on nudity and near-nudity.

      • Chris

        Do your pets wear clothes? If not, then by your logic you are into bestiality or whatever the term is for being addicted to seeing nude animals is.

        • Evermyrtle

          Does yours? Well, you worry about yours and we will worry about ours!

      • Chris

        So you wear clothes all the time – even in the shower? That's really weird. Presumably your wife must never undress either.

        • Evermyrtle

          Some perverts worry so much about other peoples dress or lack of dress, that they can't seem to have any fun besides cutting others to pieces.

        • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

          Chris, you apparently do not understand (or do not want to understand) the difference between private nudity alone or between married adults and public displays of/ TV shows with nudity.

      • Jeff Dixon

        No, that would be the Catholic priests.

        • Mary Wood

          Not entirely Jeff

          • Jeff Dixon

            True, not entirely. But they certainly have their fair share.

          • Mary Wood

            Though not all.. makes… an awesome difference… many perverts you speak of, take advantage of the good will of others' faith in humanity… my parents for example were the best… there was not the "flow" of information we have now… also if you look at the athests' website there are many perverts running for cover under that umbrella. I learned a long time ago that people like to label things to get some kind of control over others. It's important to not do that to people unless they insist on the label themselves.

          • Jeff Dixon

            I would like to see the information of pedophiles running for cover under the atheist websites.

          • Mary Wood

            Jeff, it wasn't pedophilia it was sex with animals they were talking about. It grossed me out. It was a link I followed from a comment, I don't know by whom. If my memory serves, I tbink the first letters of the site were "un…" uncommon or something like that. Then I realized how one would not want to join their "club"

          • Jeff Dixon

            Sex with animals is absurd. Simply because one atheist argues for it hardly means that atheists in general think it is a good idea. Animals are not capable of providing consent, so it is silly to argue that a human is in any type of 'relationship" wih the animal.
            There are hundreds if not thousands of priests and ministers engaging in sexuality activity with minors. There are branches of the LDS church which condones sex with young girls. Yet you are perfectly willing to be part of that club.

          • Mary Wood

            Jeff, Are you kidding. No way. The uncommon website is quoting leaders in the atheist movement and the commenter is providing evidence for the support of it. The animal acts seem to be condoned — I am not accusing you of condoning these things!!! I know you don't belong to any particular atheist group And the leadership of neither of these two churches condone these things… it is the perverts that as I said "run for cover under the umbrella of these organizations… it is everyone's problem. I was shocked to see the leadership of the atheists groups seemingly condoning the acts. I thought that what you said was generally true that what hurts or helps the group provides the basis for good and bad… I have never met an atheist before meeting you in the forum here and have thought of you as a kind of speaker for the "group" of atheists.. I am voicing my shock at hearing all this from them, NOT from you, thank heavens, Jeff! If even I knew evil exists, it is confirmed in me on that website about atheism and deviances by Dawkins.

          • Mary Wood

            I agree. The "LDS branches" are not official branches of the LDS church. They are perverts in the boonies that have taken on the name of the church to hide their nefarious activities, same as the Catholic pedophiles who find solace in their work with unknowing families who send their sons to be "alter boys" and I know you know that mothers are not there when the priests are alone with their sons. It is an environment where no women are present… you know like the boy scouts trips.. where the gays want to go!!! It's everyone's problem. What do you think about DADT now that we are on the subject?

          • Jeff Dixon

            I think gays should be allowed to serve openly. There are many western countries where this is occurring and it is not causing problems. Asking people to lie is silly.

          • Mary Wood

            I agree. What about cub scout leaders?… under 10 year old boys

          • Jeff Dixon

            Being gay does not also mean one is a pedophile. Why is it ok
            for straight men to be schoolteachers of ten year old girls? After all, there
            are heterosexual pedophiles.

          • Mary Wood

            I don't expect any parent would allow a straight man schoolteacher to camp out with 10 year old girls, by the same token, would you, Mr. Dixon? Why let a fox guard the hen house or let a frog carry a scorpion across the creek? : | We don't even talk about these things, we just didn't do it.

            You know how little children are impressionable by their peers and their authorities. We had just better be vigilant to warn our children of dangers from any and all directions. When kids hear about some new and interesting experiments, they will try them if they can get the right tools… it better be that we prepare them for honestly good experiments which is the purpose of scouts.

          • Jeff Dixon

            We would not let a male schoolteacher camp out with 10 year old girls, but parents have been allowing their children, boys and girls, to sleep overnight at churches with male priests and ministers believing them to be safe, only to find out they were being molested.

            For some reason, people assume that if someone is in the clergy, their children are safe with them. They have been wrong far too often.

          • Mary Wood

            So is sleeping over at a church regular thing? I have never heard of this. But I certainly have heard of the abuse.

          • Jeff Dixon

            I can not say how commonplace it is, but it does occur.

          • Mary Wood

            I thought I left a website, here it is… it coincides with the sexual revolution in the 60s and 70s

            Priest Abuse Scandal:
            http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/PriestAbuseScandal.htm 082712

          • http://www.facebook.com/dorothy.m.wood Mary Wood

            I never implied you are "part of that club" that has sex with animals nor have I ever been a "part of the club" which condones sex with young girls. Those are sick idiots who run for cover under the guise of being Mormon, for heaven's sake. I have to watch this site like a hawk, to counter the ridiculous and obnoxious things people will say.The church for which I am a member is NOT the anti-Mormon church of the idiot pseudo-Christians. Now I know why many good people in our church did not want Mitt to run. I did not believe them until now.

          • Mary Wood

            What would you say if their were priests in the Catholic church found to be doing these kinds of "deviancies?" How do these kinds of activities not undermine what is good for the group, for heavens sake?

            Under the comment by scordova in the link above, scordova quotes Myers:
            "Sexual relationships between humans and animals come as such a shock to people, but it doesn’t to me. There can be very deep, meaningful relationships between humans and their pets.
            Skatje Myers
            (daughter of Darwinist PZ Myers)"

            I don't ever want to associated with this kind of thing. It is appalling, Jeff. Where do you draw the line? It's one thing to feel you have been left out of the loop when the Blessed Virgin Mary did not visit you as a child (as my feelings were hurt when I prayed for it and it did not happen) and quite another thing to accept it will never happen so throw all caution to the wind and submit to any lowly behavior that the world can possibly throw at you. I don't think this is just a meme behavior as Dawkins puts it. I think it is something instinctual that I do not want to override because an "intellectual" thinks it is alright. Jeff, there may not be proof of the existence of God, but it seems to me if anything, this proves in my heart, I know there is an existence of Satan. Why or why not do you agree?

    • Linda F.

      The only thing that's "asinine," Chris, is every comment that you post on this website.

      • Chris

        To people dumb enough to think there are sky gods and the bible is true I guess it would appear that way. You do, however, present no evidence or facts to support your homophobic, misogynistic and other crazy views.

        • Evermyrtle

          When it comes to being dumb., if I were you I would hurry inside before anyone had a chance to inventory my brains!!!

          • Jeff Dixon

            Do not worry Myrtle, No one is under the impression you have brains to inventory.

          • Evermyrtle

            Jeffy, are you defending Chris?? That is nice of you because he makes such an idiot out of himself, he needs somebody, even if it is someone like him.

          • Jeff Dixon

            I am not defending him. I am simply pointing out that no one believes you have any brains to inventory.

        • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

          Chris, all one has to do is look at the statistics on disease and death rates/ages of homosexuals vs. heterosexuals to find plenty of evidence that argues against homosexuality, so your claim of "no evidence or facts" is utter nonsense.

          http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1

          http://www.onlymyhealth.com/health-risks-homosexuality-1300945474

          http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/180062680.html

          • Jeff Dixon

            Blacks also die earlier than whites, so based on your perspective, you should also be anti black.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            But their death rate is not directly a result of an immoral sexual lifestyle, plus the difference is not nearly as extreme as the gay vs. straight death age comparison, plus throw in the fact that they do not suffer the diseases that are a direct result of homosexual behavior (unless they are homosexual), so your comparison is not relevant. Every person is born with a certain skin color through no choice of their own, but homosexual behavior is a conscious, reversible choice.

          • Jeff Dixon

            Is your own sexuality a choice? Mine is not. I have always been attracted to women and there is no choice being made with that. It is part of who I am. And if you also state your sexuality is not a choice, then what makes you think that homosexuality is completely different?

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            If you are born a man, you are physically and psychologically designed by God to be attracted to women, and vice versa. Like you, I have always had an attraction to females, even as early as grade school. Any attraction to the same sex is completely unnatural, and must have either been chosen consciously or came about as a result of a poor relationship with their father (or they had no father raising them at all).

            In other words, homosexuality is an aberration, both physiologically and spiritually. It is not normal. That is what leads me to the inescapable conclusion that homosexuality is completely different. The design of the human body alone is enough of an argument against homosexuality.

          • Jeff Dixon

            It is the fact that my sexuality is not a choice that leads me to believe that it is also not a choice for homosexuals.

            There are many heterosexuals who engage in the same type of sexual activity as homosexuals, so your argument on the design of the body is not unique to gays. There are women who only orgasm during anal sex.

            And as far as people making a change, most studies show that change is not occurring. Many people who claim to have changed go back to their previous sexual preference. As far as ones who seem to change, keep this in mind. A gay person can be upset with their sexual preference and force themselves to do something different. You see it occur in humans all the time.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            Homosexuality is no different from any other sin. God's moral Law is written on our hearts, so any sin is a conscious decision on the part of the individual to disobey God's law, whether they realize it or not. Whenever I make an unkind remark, I could say, oops, I didn't mean to say that, but in essence, it was my choice to make that remark even though I knew it was wrong. it is no one's fault but my own.

            As far as your claim that "there are women who only orgasm during anal sex", I have two thoughts: How would you know, and secondly, what does this have to do with homosexuality? It is very clear that the anus was not designed for intercourse, and in fact, it causes damage to it over time in most cases. The female sexual receptors are located, ahem, elsewhere, so I'm skeptical of this claim. I would hardly call this a valid argument in favor of homosexuality.

            And we have already covered the devastating consequences from a disease and death standpoint, so I have to wonder why you are going to such great lengths to defend the practice? If you really cared for a homosexual person and truly wanted the best for him or her, you would have the courage and compassion to warn them of the dangers rather than condoning or encouraging it.

          • Jeff Dixon

            Sin is not reality, so I cannot worry about it.

            As far as women who only orgasm during anal sex, my point is that many people experience life in different ways. You approach life in only one way.

            I defend gay people because they are not hurting anyone.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            Sin is very real, and we can see its destructive effects daily.

            "Experiencing life in different ways" has nothing to do with the physiological design of the male and female sexual receptors, which we all know are located in a specific region and are compatible only in a heterosexual relationship.

            Gay people are hurting themselves, but apparently you don't care.

          • Jeff Dixon

            Of course, I do not care. lol.

            The religious have been criticizing, beating, killing, passing discriminatory laws and other harnessing gays for centuries. Yet in your warped view, that is being loving to them.

            Men have sexual responses in their prostate and many heterosexuals enjoy that sensation as well. And as I mentioned many women enjoy anal sex as well.

            If you were concerned about gays, you would support medical research into AIDs, not simply try to dismiss them.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            What a crock. I know of no Christians who are beating, killing, or harassing gays. I utterly condemn any such actions. Yet you would be willing to encourage someone to begin or remain in a lifestyle that has clearly been shown to be destructive to the individual. That is not love, my friend, that is hatred. Your phony 'compassion' is severely lacking.

            The mechanics of who derives pleasure from what is immaterial. Bank robbers derive pleasure from robbing banks, yet I doubt you would be encouraging them to knock over as many banks as possible. Sin is sin, no matter how you try to sugar-coat it.

            Who says I do not support medical research into AIDS? Even though a person may have contracted the disease through their immoral lifestyle, which I do not condone, I certainly do not condone letting them die after they have it, either. But if you truly did have compassion upon them, you would steer them away from such activity so that they would not contract deadly diseases in the first place.

          • Jeff Dixon

            It is not a crock at all. There are stories all time of gays getting beat up by theists of different religions. Just because you do not know anyone personally who does it is meaningless. Go back into history and you find stories of gays being killed.

            You are the one who brought the idea of sexual receptors and the design of the body. And it is hardly irrelevant. Simply because men wrote verses thousands of years ago against does not mean it is bad thing. I doubt bank robbers enjoy robbing banks. They do it for the money, not the pleasure. But robbing people harms them. Consensual sexual activity does not harm people.

            Heterosexuals also get AIDs and other diseases as well. It is not a "gay" disease. In Africa, far more heterosexuals have AIDs than homosexuals.

            You are not offering compassion but simply fear and loathing.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            Please provide a link to all these "stories" of gays getting beaten up or killed. I already said I strongly condemned such actions, so even if it were true that "theists" are doing these things, you are merely attempting to associate me with someone else's guilt. If they are actually doing these things, it is wrong. Period.

            It has already been shown that 'consensual' sex between same sex partners is harmful, so why do you keep denying it? It certainly does cause harm. Sin of any kind is a conscious act of the will, and will eventually result in harm. In that respect, homosexuality is no different from any other sin.

            I never said that AIDS was exclusively a gay disease, but the fact remains that it started in the homo community and then spread to the rest of the population.

            Your idea of compassion is to encourage or enable people to engage in a practice that has clearly been shown to harm or kill them. I hardly call that compassion. Your preconceived anti-God, no-moral-absolutes position is blinding you to the fact that homosexuality is not only wrong, but destructive to the individuals who choose that perverse lifestyle.

          • Jeff Dixon

            http://globalgrind.com/news/brandon-white-gay-man-beating-atlanta-gang-speaks-video

            http://rt.com/news/gay-parade-kiev-attack-813/

            http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/03/dallas_police_two_men_called_g.php

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill

            Key, the stories abound on the internet. And I did not say you were doing anything, but it is religious people who are doing it.

            It has not been shown that same sex relationships cause harm. What causes harm is that gays in this country have been impacted by AIDs more than heterosexuals. In Africa, heterosexuals are impacted more than homosexuals.

            It is not a "fact" that AID's started in the gay community. It was simply first recognized there first.

            http://www.avert.org/origin-aids-hiv.htm

            The contrast is that you choice to believe that fiction is reality. There is no evidence that anything about Jesus is true.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            Where do these reports say it was Christians that did these things? Or even 'religious people'?

            I never said that gays do not get attacked, I simply said it was not Christians that are doing it. Christians get attacked worldwide simply for their beliefs. Here is an example of Christians being attacked by gays:

            http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/angry-mob-of-homosexuals-attack-christians/

            http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=30656

            Yes, I'm afraid it has been shown that homosexuality is harmful. You can deny it all you want, but the facts are inescapable

            http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/180062680.html

            http://www.personal.psu.edu/glm7/m160.htm

            http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1

            "There is no evidence that anything about Jesus is true." Huh? You have got to be kidding me. There is far more evidence, both secular and sacred, for the existence of Jesus and His life than for any other ancient historical figure you care to name, by a huge margin. You only deny His existence and ministry because you want to, not because the facts are on your side.

          • Jeff Dixon

            So you deny that Uganda is a Christian country?

            Just more nonsense. There is no historical evidence for Jesus. If there was actual historical evidence, Christians would be shouting it from the rooftops.

            So, if disease is the evidence for something being bad, then the heterosexuals in Africa are evidence that heterosexuals are doing something wrong. Like much of what you want to believe to be true, you are allowing your bias to determine your conclusions.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            Christian countries do not consist entirely of Christians. No where in any of the reports did it say the attackers were Christian or that the attacks were carried out in the name of Christ.

            No historical evidence for Jesus? Even secular Wikipedia disagrees with that nonsense:

            "Virtually all modern scholars agree that Jesus existed, and see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[5][6][7][8][9] Scholars generally agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born BC 7–2 and died AD 30–36.[10][11] Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea[12][13][14] and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and Greek.[15][16][17][18][19] Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[20][21][22][23]"

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

            I didn't say that the mere presence of disease made something bad. I said that homosexuals experience a high rate of disease that is directly related to their immoral lifestyle. The average male homosexual has hundreds of partners in his lifetime, far more than the average heterosexual, so in that respect it is the rampant promiscuity among homosexuals that is the problem. And gay bowel syndrome and anal cancer are directly related to their unnatural sexual behavior.

            But it goes far beyond just physical disease. They also experience a high rate of mental health issues, and the rate of partner violence is high

            " A study in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence examined conflict and violence in lesbian relationships. The researchers found that 90 percent of the lesbians surveyed had been recipients of one or more acts of verbal aggression from their intimate partners during the year prior to this study, with 31 percent reporting one or more incidents of physical abuse.[69]
            · In a survey of 1,099 lesbians, the Journal of Social Service Research found that "slightly more than half of the [lesbians] reported that they had been abused by a female lover/partner. The most frequently indicated forms of abuse were verbal/emotional/psychological abuse and combined physical-psychological abuse."[70]
            · In their book Men Who Beat the Men Who Love Them: Battered Gay Men and Domestic Violence,D. Island and P. Letellier report that "the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double that in the heterosexual population."[71]

            High Incidence of Mental Health Problems among Homosexuals and Lesbians.

            A national survey of lesbians published in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology found that 75 percent of the nearly 2,000 respondents had pursued psychological counseling of some kind, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness:
            Among the sample as a whole, there was a distressingly high prevalence of life events and behaviors related to mental health problems. Thirty-seven percent had been physically abused and 32 percent had been raped or sexually attacked. Nineteen percent had been involved in incestuous relationships while growing up. Almost one-third used tobacco on a daily basis and about 30 percent drank alcohol more than once a week; 6 percent drank daily. One in five smoked marijuana more than once a month. Twenty-one percent of the sample had thoughts about suicide sometimes or often and 18 percent had actually tried to kill themselves. . . . More than half had felt too nervous to accomplish ordinary activities at some time during the past year and over one-third had been depressed.[74]
            Greater Risk for Suicide.
            "

            http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1

          • Jeff Dixon

            You can pretend that activities done in the name of Christianity were not done by Christians but it is a silly argument. The issue is not whether Jesus as a person existed, but whether he was actually god. Besides, I can show sites that claim he never existed.

            There are heterosexuals who have hundreds of partners.

            Let us cut to the chase. For every argument you present I can show a contradictory argument. Show that Jesus is god. Period. Show that Jesus is actually a real person and did everything claimed in the bible. Show that he ascended into heaven. Show that the thieve is in heaven. Show that devil actually showed Jesus every kingdom on earth from a mountain.

            Your entire argument is based on the bible. But the bible is not true.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            What activities were done in the name of Christianity? Your sources did not say anything of the sort, yet you keep trying to insert your own opinion into the stories.

            You can show sites that claim Jesus never existed? Just goes to show there are liars out there who would say such a thing simply because the truth is too much for them to swallow. Any historian with even an ounce of credibility would never dare suggest that Jesus Christ did not exist as a historical figure. He proved He was God by the miracles He performed, which are also well documented. You don't want to believe it simple because your mind is made up, not because the evidence is on your side.

            There may be heterosexuals that have hundreds of partners, but they are a tiny fraction of the whole, whereas the average male homosexual has hundreds of partners in his (shortened) lifespan. That's the average, not just a few isolated cases like homosexuals.

            There are eyewitness accounts to testify that Jesus was a real person, that He is God, that He ascended back to heaven, etc. You refuse to believe any of it only because you choose to do so based on your predetermined worldview. In fact, the atheist worldview is totally irrational, because when you claim that God does not exist anywhere, you are attempting to prove a universal negative, which is logically impossible. I think you need to make a serious examination of just exactly what it is you believe and why you believe it. At least an agnostic position would be intellectually honest.

      • Evermyrtle

        Don't blame him too severely, that is all the fun that he gets out of life. Imagine if that were you!!

    • Evermyrtle

      We always dress our children before sending them to school, they don;t that where you are???

      Swimming? We normally have at least 3 postage stamp size of spots covered.

      Communal showers? we don't do them, we go home when we need a scrub.

      Where have you been doing your eyeballing??Did you go dressed or did you frolic with the rest??

    • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

      How do we handle swimming? Well, Chris, we wear a bathing suit and enjoy ourselves. Why would it be necessary to swim in the nude? And I don't usually see any television cameras around swimming pools.

      What happens when the kids go to school? Well, I presume they do not attend school in the nude, and I don't know of any classes that would require nudity. Gym lockers might be a problem, but the student could elect to shower when they get home instead of a common shower (more sanitary, too).

      How do we handle communal showers? Avoid them, or if you must use them, cover yourself with a towel immediately upon exit.

      Why are you so fixated on ridiculing persons who have higher moral standards than yourself?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

    This should be no surprise. The Devil is in control of the media and hellywood in particular. Things will wax worse and worse as the Rapture approaches.

  • Chris

    But you are quite happy with the much more plentiful depiction of violence and gore, shootings and other such things every night. You deplore seeing the beauty of humans that are alive but love to see them being shot to death. Crazy.

    • Michael G.

      A lot of that stuff is 'fake.'

  • Lawrence

    In process of canceling tv service completely. Just listen to radio

    • Michael G.

      You won't be missing much. About the only things I watch anymore are sporting events (selective here too), HRTV (Horse Race TV), an occasional game show, Pawn Stars, and a new one that is about the acquisition of old cars and restoration. Beyond that, there isn't much to choose from. I gave up on commercial TV a long time ago.

    • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

      Try Sky Angel if you want a family-friendly way to watch TV without all the prime-time network filth.

  • Jeff Dixon

    No one has had an encounter with any god. People make up such encounters in their mind.

    • Vladimir

      Jeff Dixon, I follow your posts and I can't help but think that you make some statements because you are trying to assuage your doubt. You can't possibly know that "no one has had an encounter with any god. People make up such encounters in their mind." You seem to be looking for any evidence out there that is contrary to what you believe. When nothing is put forth that you can't disparage, you become more confident in your beliefs and your doubt is assuaged. You are looking in the wrong place, if you are honestly seeking truth.

      • Jeff Dixon

        You would be wrong.

        • Vladimir

          Such a quick dismissal. Then where is the right place for honestly seeking truth?

          • Jeff Dixon

            I dismissed that I am trying to assuage my doubts.

          • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

            But yet you still claim to be an atheist, which makes the claim that there is no God anywhere. This is a universal negative which is logically impossible to prove. In your posts you claim to follow that which is most logical, but a universe that either created itself or is eternal (both of which violate known laws of science) is irrational. To believe that there is no God would require either of those two possibilities.

            If you are honestly seeking truth, as Vladimir has mentioned, then I believe you need to conduct a thorough examination of exactly what you believe and why you believe it, and then ask yourself in all honesty whether it makes sense from both a scientific and logical standpoint. The simple laws of logic argue against any kind of atheist position, so at the very least, you should admit that you are unsure as to whether there is a God or not and call yourself an agnostic. It would be a step in the right direction.