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	<title>Comments on: Rick Warren cancels Obama-Romney forum</title>
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		<title>By: GrizzMann</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-176923</link>
		<dc:creator>GrizzMann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still did not find lies and hate. Sorry. A lie would be, Obama claiming his grandmother (the white one) was &quot;but that she is a typical white person. If she sees 
somebody on the street that she doesn’t know (pause) there’s a reaction 
in her that doesn’t go away and it comes out in the wrong way.” Which is true. The lie would be,  but that she is an atypical white person. without any racial animus. You see how the words, a typical, is changed to, am atypical, changes the entire meaning. Making a true statement into a false statement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still did not find lies and hate. Sorry. A lie would be, Obama claiming his grandmother (the white one) was "but that she is a typical white person. If she sees<br />
somebody on the street that she doesn’t know (pause) there’s a reaction<br />
in her that doesn’t go away and it comes out in the wrong way.” Which is true. The lie would be,  but that she is an atypical white person. without any racial animus. You see how the words, a typical, is changed to, am atypical, changes the entire meaning. Making a true statement into a false statement?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Saposnekoo</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-176855</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Saposnekoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[


Before we give Bill Clinton and, or
Barrack Husein Obama all the credit, why does everyone always leave out Ron
Paul and Mitt Romney?


Remember, Ron Paul voted for the
homosexualizing of the military, has no problem with same sex marriages and
says that homosexuality is not a sin, but rather a Genetic issue.


Mitt Romney also supports the Gay Agenda
and married a Gay Couple in Massachusetts
while Governor (see http://www.massresistance.com).


Everyone in the Ron Paul camp is claiming
that they are America’s
last hope and almost worshiping them as if they are our Saviors.


This morning a number of writers claim
that the Pauls have never betrayed anyone yet ignore Ron Paul’s support of the
sodomites and same sex marriage as he voted his approval to allow them in the
United States Military which is a betrayal of God Almighty and our risen Lord
and Savior Jesus Christ who is King. And we now have Rand Pauls support of a
Mormon which is a Cult in one, Mitt Romney.


When prayer is asked for, never have I
seen or heard anyone who supports the Paul’s from any Pastors which includes
Chuck Baldwin or his son and attorney Tim or anyone in the Paul camp ever ask
or say anything about repentance which must come first before forgiveness and
blessing from God.


And why is this? It’s because when one
feels that they are above even God Himself and His Laws, repentance is not
given even the slightest thought nor considered.


They all say that God’s Laws are supreme,
yet they support a man Ron Paul who has made a conscious effort as well as a
verbal statement against God’s Laws and calls it good. And now his son Rand has dug the knife even deeper into our backs and
scoffed at the God he claims he knows in his support of this Mormon who also
supports Gays in the Military as well as same sex marriages.


The God I worship and who is King says
that His eyes are too pure to look on evil, and He cannot tolerate wrongdoing*
yet they worship a man or in this case men, and forget God and His Laws as well
as His Commandments and in their vanity and pride they yet ask God to bless them
while supporting men who have set themselves before God.


They preach and teach from the pulpit and
in their correspondence that righteousness exhalteth a nation. But yet they
refuse to follow what God Commands in Deuteronomy
 11 when He says that we are to keep all of His
commandments and obey Him. Instead, they refuse to see that they are
desperately in need of a repentant heart so that God can bless them and not
curse them* and our Nation without repentance by it’s people, will continue to
suffer for it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we give Bill Clinton and, or<br />
Barrack Husein Obama all the credit, why does everyone always leave out Ron<br />
Paul and Mitt Romney?</p>
<p>Remember, Ron Paul voted for the<br />
homosexualizing of the military, has no problem with same sex marriages and<br />
says that homosexuality is not a sin, but rather a Genetic issue.</p>
<p>Mitt Romney also supports the Gay Agenda<br />
and married a Gay Couple in Massachusetts<br />
while Governor (see <a href="http://www.massresistance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.massresistance.com</a>).</p>
<p>Everyone in the Ron Paul camp is claiming<br />
that they are America’s<br />
last hope and almost worshiping them as if they are our Saviors.</p>
<p>This morning a number of writers claim<br />
that the Pauls have never betrayed anyone yet ignore Ron Paul’s support of the<br />
sodomites and same sex marriage as he voted his approval to allow them in the<br />
United States Military which is a betrayal of God Almighty and our risen Lord<br />
and Savior Jesus Christ who is King. And we now have Rand Pauls support of a<br />
Mormon which is a Cult in one, Mitt Romney.</p>
<p>When prayer is asked for, never have I<br />
seen or heard anyone who supports the Paul’s from any Pastors which includes<br />
Chuck Baldwin or his son and attorney Tim or anyone in the Paul camp ever ask<br />
or say anything about repentance which must come first before forgiveness and<br />
blessing from God.</p>
<p>And why is this? It’s because when one<br />
feels that they are above even God Himself and His Laws, repentance is not<br />
given even the slightest thought nor considered.</p>
<p>They all say that God’s Laws are supreme,<br />
yet they support a man Ron Paul who has made a conscious effort as well as a<br />
verbal statement against God’s Laws and calls it good. And now his son Rand has dug the knife even deeper into our backs and<br />
scoffed at the God he claims he knows in his support of this Mormon who also<br />
supports Gays in the Military as well as same sex marriages.</p>
<p>The God I worship and who is King says<br />
that His eyes are too pure to look on evil, and He cannot tolerate wrongdoing*<br />
yet they worship a man or in this case men, and forget God and His Laws as well<br />
as His Commandments and in their vanity and pride they yet ask God to bless them<br />
while supporting men who have set themselves before God.</p>
<p>They preach and teach from the pulpit and<br />
in their correspondence that righteousness exhalteth a nation. But yet they<br />
refuse to follow what God Commands in Deuteronomy<br />
 11 when He says that we are to keep all of His<br />
commandments and obey Him. Instead, they refuse to see that they are<br />
desperately in need of a repentant heart so that God can bless them and not<br />
curse them* and our Nation without repentance by it’s people, will continue to<br />
suffer for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-176420</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We just left yet another church where the arrogance of the three pastors placed &quot;themselves&quot; as authority in the church instead of following the Biblical guidance/directive of church authority being pluralistic Bishop/Elder and Deacon.  Given, a pastor is considered a spiritual gift, they also are &quot;Cessationists&quot;, meaning the miraculous works of the Holy Spirit ceased being practiced early on in Church history.  But, he had the arrogance to say, &quot;I am a gift to this church.&quot;  Such apostasy should be avoided and one would question their own salvation because being a pastor is not an ego-centered role in the church but one which should be as a shepherd of the flock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just left yet another church where the arrogance of the three pastors placed "themselves" as authority in the church instead of following the Biblical guidance/directive of church authority being pluralistic Bishop/Elder and Deacon.  Given, a pastor is considered a spiritual gift, they also are "Cessationists", meaning the miraculous works of the Holy Spirit ceased being practiced early on in Church history.  But, he had the arrogance to say, "I am a gift to this church."  Such apostasy should be avoided and one would question their own salvation because being a pastor is not an ego-centered role in the church but one which should be as a shepherd of the flock.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Nunnally</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-176344</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Nunnally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a born-again Christian, and though I would love to see a true Christian in the White House, following scripture to both the Spirit and the letter, we need to remember that we are voting in a man to use his best wisdom and experience in governing our wonderful country.  While Romney may not worship God the way I do, I trust that God has brought this man forward, a man that that loves this country, wants to see it return to it&#039;s prominence in the world, has the expertise and knowledge in business to understand and maintain budgets, which Obama has proven he either doesn&#039;t know or care about, and he has moral values that our CHRISTIAN nation were built on.  For Rick Warren to say that both parties are &quot;mud-slinging&quot; is really misguided and just plain wrong.  As a pastor, he&#039;s missed something very important...he&#039;s in a position to help our country get back to the basics of living freely and prosper by having jobs.  Romney can and will do this, and Warren should certainly know that.  I am saddened that, once again, a pastor has been deceived and persuaded to withdraw from such an opportunity.  But I&#039;ll say this...God has the power to blind the fools, and to change hearts on election day.  All the talk on the networks are only speculation, nothing more...prayer is much more powerful than the liberal media, and God is more powerful than Rick Warren&#039;s forum.  Don&#039;t despair, conservatives...just keep praying and BELIEVING that Romney and Ryan will WIN!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a born-again Christian, and though I would love to see a true Christian in the White House, following scripture to both the Spirit and the letter, we need to remember that we are voting in a man to use his best wisdom and experience in governing our wonderful country.  While Romney may not worship God the way I do, I trust that God has brought this man forward, a man that that loves this country, wants to see it return to it's prominence in the world, has the expertise and knowledge in business to understand and maintain budgets, which Obama has proven he either doesn't know or care about, and he has moral values that our CHRISTIAN nation were built on.  For Rick Warren to say that both parties are "mud-slinging" is really misguided and just plain wrong.  As a pastor, he's missed something very important&#8230;he's in a position to help our country get back to the basics of living freely and prosper by having jobs.  Romney can and will do this, and Warren should certainly know that.  I am saddened that, once again, a pastor has been deceived and persuaded to withdraw from such an opportunity.  But I'll say this&#8230;God has the power to blind the fools, and to change hearts on election day.  All the talk on the networks are only speculation, nothing more&#8230;prayer is much more powerful than the liberal media, and God is more powerful than Rick Warren's forum.  Don't despair, conservatives&#8230;just keep praying and BELIEVING that Romney and Ryan will WIN!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: fliteking</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-176012</link>
		<dc:creator>fliteking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad, i mean daves, what you posted is the truth, somehow you&#039;d like to take Ryan&#039;s truth and make it a lie, life does not work that way. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, i mean daves, what you posted is the truth, somehow you'd like to take Ryan's truth and make it a lie, life does not work that way. </p>
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		<title>By: Wordman</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-176008</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Warren thinks the boys aren&#039;t playing nice, he should have used the forum as an opportunity to correct them. Too many gutless pastors have no stomach for the rough and tumble of the real world.  I long for the old days when Christian leaders would rip each other mercilessly in public debates then walk across the street and have a beer and a cigar together. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Warren thinks the boys aren't playing nice, he should have used the forum as an opportunity to correct them. Too many gutless pastors have no stomach for the rough and tumble of the real world.  I long for the old days when Christian leaders would rip each other mercilessly in public debates then walk across the street and have a beer and a cigar together. </p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn K. Smith</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-175958</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn K. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our Father says we are to pray and HE will heal our land.  Debate will never heal anything.  It&#039;s good entertainment occasionally but no one ever really says who they really are and what they really think. NO ONE. OVERCOMERS: Trust God.  Pray to Him sincerely and He will hear us and heal us.  If we don&#039;t we will wish we had and by that time it will be too late.  I believe you made the right decision, Mr. Warren.  I doubt anyone could be &quot;civil&quot; here.  They may pretend to be but I don&#039;t think they know how to really be civil.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Father says we are to pray and HE will heal our land.  Debate will never heal anything.  It's good entertainment occasionally but no one ever really says who they really are and what they really think. NO ONE. OVERCOMERS: Trust God.  Pray to Him sincerely and He will hear us and heal us.  If we don't we will wish we had and by that time it will be too late.  I believe you made the right decision, Mr. Warren.  I doubt anyone could be "civil" here.  They may pretend to be but I don't think they know how to really be civil.  </p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Lee</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-175948</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He couldn&#039;t turn it into a media event for chrislam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He couldn't turn it into a media event for chrislam.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://zionica.com/2012/08/23/rick-warren-cancels-obama-romney-forum/#comment-175905</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bible wars true believers in God/Jesus/Holy Spirit to &quot;come out from amongst them&quot; (meaning unbelievers and cult worshippers).  The problem with Mormons is they do as Satan leads them ... lie and deceive.  Mormons put more faith in apostates in their mighty 12 apostles, Book of Mormon, and Doctrines and Covenant, leading the cult than in the Words of God/Jesus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible wars true believers in God/Jesus/Holy Spirit to "come out from amongst them" (meaning unbelievers and cult worshippers).  The problem with Mormons is they do as Satan leads them &#8230; lie and deceive.  Mormons put more faith in apostates in their mighty 12 apostles, Book of Mormon, and Doctrines and Covenant, leading the cult than in the Words of God/Jesus.</p>
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