Obama vs. Jesus: Black Christians must decide - ZIONICA.com

Evermyrtle

Thou shall have no other Gods before me.! We all need to examine ourselves to determine if this is something that we are being true to. What is is that we think is important enough to put before GOD? Anything? Nothing?

Granny

Absloutley nothing nor anyone comes before God.
- http://www.facebook.com/RobertAlexander.Salvage Robert Alexander
  
  Deuteronomy 30:
  15 ¶See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
  16 In that I command thee this day to love Yahweah thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and Yahweah thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
  17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
  18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
  19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
  20 That thou mayest love Yahweah thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which Yahweah sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
  - Granny
    
    Thank you.

glenda the good

What a shame…..truth should always win out or our hearts are not in the right place.

chris

if you are a christian the choice is easy.

John Adams

I really don't think that the choice is easy. Neither major party candidate is a true Believer. Both candidates hold positions that oppose God's commands. IOW, they are both evil.
As Christians we must be holy as our God is holy. Those who are holy cannot support evil at any level.
I think that we need to find a 3rd party candidate who supports God's commands in every way. We may have to write in our pastor's name or not vote at all.
- Ron
  
  John Your idea is ludicris, if all Christians either wrote in their pastors name or didn't vote at all we would be giving the election to the most vile Christ attaching in U.S. history. Four years from now nobody would be allowed to practice Christianity unless it was underground like the third world countries. obama is out to destroy Christianity. Romney supports it. Mormons do believe in Christ but they havr other things added to it that go against God's word. Christ said we should obey our government. This is a situation where you follow he who is following the closest to God's word. In this case Romney.
  - John Adams
    
    I totally agree with your assessment of obama and his plan for America. However, I believe that to vote for a lesser of two evils is to still vote for evil, which as Christians we shouldn't do.
    We MUST remember that God is sovereign and that He controls the destiny of nations. It may be His will that the US become a nation that persecutes Christians. It has been proven time and time again that persecution helps to purify the Church. The Church in the US most certainly needs purification.
    I, for one, will NOT vote for evil; even if it is a lesser evil.
    - Wesley
      
      you will be voting for the lesser of two evils unless you vote for Jesus Christ for all are sinners. by the way Jesus would not be qualified to run being he is not an American.
    - John Adams
      
      Yes, all humans are sinners, but there are those who seek to honor God, His Holy Word and obey His commands. We, as Christians, are to vote for THOSE people.
- Old Observer
  
  Sadly, John, not voting, or voting anyone other than Romney will ensure a reelection for the current fraud in the WH. I am not "for" Romney, but will vote for him, because the insertion of any other candidate will, as in past years, make sure the incumbent is elected. Vote for Romney–it will be a step forward toward a better potential choice in '16—our biggest challenge right now is getting Obama out before he totally destroys this country.
  - Old Observer
    
    On the other hand, i do believe that God will put in His choice. if obama stays, I think that will tell us that our time here is short, and that the wheels are turning ever faster toward the completion of God's plan.
    - mallen11
      
      You are absolutely right…
      
      Ps 75:5-7 Do not lift up your horn on high; do not speak with insolent pride. For not
      from the east, nor from the west, nor from the desert comes exaltation;
      But God is the Judge; He puts down one and exalts another.
  - Janet
    
    I agree I for a while had desided not to vote ,but knowing if I voted for anyone other than Romney was a vote for obama and to not vote was a vote for obama because it would be one less vote he he needed to conquer… Muslim's more than any other cult are the most dangerous and evil because they declare to conquer the world for allah who is none other than satan,though satan is the god of all pagan religion's its the muslim religion that satan will use to try conquer the world and behead those who refuse bowing to allah(satan ) all pagan religions are cultic,but are used by satan as a distraction keeping people devided as to which pagan religion to watch,but its muslim's cousin's to the Jews that will be used to do the the conquering , and it will be easy to use the one who most hate God and the Jews and Chrisian's because they have the same and Only True God .. Muslim's have hated God for thousands of years it started with God choosing Isaac over Ishmael so they are the only pagan religion with an axe (sword ) to grind .. maybe it really first started with Cain and hagar (mother of Ishmael ) is an offspring of Cain… Ishmael is offspring of Hagar who gave birth to Ishmael son of Abraham .. So it stands to reason that the muslim's are eager to murder Jews and Christian's and everyone who refuse to bow to allah (satan ) including those of another pagan religion …
- Taquoshi
  
  I'd rather vote for the Mormon than the Muslim.
  - John Adams
    
    I'd rather not vote for evil – the lesser nor the greater.
    - SouthernLadyNC
      
      then obama wins
    - John Adams
      
      You seem to forget that God is Sovereign. He will decided who wins. God raises leaders and puts them down.
      Our responsibility is NOT to help God get His appointed leader in office. Our responsibility is to obey God. As I see it, that means voting for those who honor God, his Holy Word, and obey His commands.
      God uses the evil and the good to bring about His will.
    - A.
      
      I am acquainted with several Christians who will not vote for fear that they will vote contrary to God's will. A rather "head in the sand" approach. Paul tells us we are to exercise our rights as citizens, which he did before Governor Felix. And one of those rights in our country is voting. To fail to vote is, in effect, voting fot Obama and his evils!
    - John Adams
      
      In no way am I advocating not voting. However it is better not to vote than to vote for someone who does not honor God, His Holy Word and obey His commands.
      I will vote, but I will NOT vote for either of the major party candidates.
    - Pastor Dwayne
      
      You haven't voted in quite some while then have you John
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams
      
      In 2008 I voted for Chuck Baldwin running as the candidate of the Constitution Party.
    - Pastor Dwayne
      
      Which helped Nobuma get in
    - Taquoshi
      
      I respectfully disagree. I do not believe that Romney is evil.
    - John Adams
      
      If you think Romney is not evil then you don't know his political record and you do not understand Mormonism.
    - Taquoshi
      
      Okay, according to my Random House Dictionary, evil is defined as morally wrong or bad.
      
      A good friend lives in Massachusetts. For the past five years, she had been required to file her information so that she wouldn't be penalized by Romneycare. I've provided moral support every step of the way. Do I like it? No. Do I like socialized medicine? No. Is it a fact of life for her that I can not change? Yes. Do I hate Romney because of it? No. Last month, she got a phone call saying that she qualified for the state health care. For the first time in over 20 years, she'll be able to go to a doctor without it being an absolute emergency.
      
      About Mormonism. Well, let's see. If I've got any questions about it, I can call any one of four different people, two of whom are local bishops for their congregations. I'm well aware of the teachings of the Mormon church, their polity, and their practices. Do I believe their teachings? No. Do I pray for them? Yes. They are no more or less "lost" if you want to use that term, than the average person you pass walking down the street that is not of the elect.
      
      I stand by my statement that I do not believe Romney is evil. Sinful, yes, just like every other person on this planet. Evil, no.
    - John Adams
      
      Two points:
      1. How does the Bible define evil?
      2. You sound like a typical "christian" who does not believe in the sovereignty of God.
    - Taquoshi
      
      Thank you so much for your very revealing judgemental words and attitude. You know very, very little about me. Whether I do or don't believe in the sovereignty of God does not matter. You've already decided that. And in light of that, it isn't worth replying any further to your comments since you are going to condemn me and others out of hand.
      
      Have a nice life.
    - Pastor Dwayne
      
      If God is so sovereign, according to you definition of sovereignty , since it is God's will that all be saved , why aren't they then saved. It wouldn't have anything to the choice of, free will, would it???
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams
      
      You, apparently, don't understand either the sovereignty of God nor the free-will of man.
      One should not take one passage of Scripture and build their doctrine on it. One MUST compare Scripture to Scripture and determine their doctrine from the whole council of God.
      Regarding free will – It does NOT mean that man has the ability to do whatever he pleases. What it does mean is that man is unable to even choose to receive Jesus Christ as their Saviour until/unless the Holy Spirit begins a work in that soul. One MUST be given God's grace before they can be saved. Once they have received God's grace, they are free to choose Jesus Christ as Saviour. One must remember that only the elect will be saved, and ALL of the elect will be saved.
    - Pastor Dwayne
      
      Only after you get Born Again do you become the elect. the elect is always Christocentric
      In your line of thought, can the elect lose their salvation ?
      And even after the Holy Ghost begins his work in the lost soul , his free will can say yes to God Or no. That is the answer to the question I presented to you. Since it is God's will that all be saved, why aren't all saved.
      If you have been on here any length of time you would know that I compare scripture with scripture, therefore if I use one verse stating something . it CAN be backed up with other scripture.
      A few on these posts believe that the sovereignty of God means if you are God's elect, there is no way you can say no to him when He comes knocking.
    - Jeff Dixon
      
      According to your bible, all men are evil. Therefore, you would always be choosing the lessor or two evils.
    - John Adams
      
      Are you trying to not understand?
    - Jeff Dixon
      
      I am merely pointing out the reality of what your bible says about all men. You say you cannot vote for someone who is evil. If you believe your bible is correct, you have no choice but to vote for the lessor of two evils no matter who is running.
      It would seem you do not understand.
    - John Adams
      
      There really is a difference between being a sinner and being evil.
    - Jeff Dixon
      
      There may be a
      difference between the two ideas, but the bible says man is evil. Consider
      scripture from the book of Genesis, right before God had flooded the earth. It
      should first be noted that the flood was supposedly a judgment from God upon a
      wicked people. As it is written in Genesis chapter 6, verse 5: "Then the
      LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every
      intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." It must
      also be noted that supposedly man did not change after the flood, and one can
      view this as a description of the heart of every person alive today.
      
      Notice it says
      that EVERY intent of the thoughts of his heart was ONLY evil. If every intent
      of your heart is only evil, there is no room for any sort of good. In addition
      to this, the verse states that it was evil continually. In other words, there
      is never a point when the intent of man's heart is good. This is not the only
      place where the Bible calls men evil.
      
      Next consider
      Romans chapter 3 where it talks about how all men are under sin. It says that
      there none righteous, not even one. There is none who seeks after God. They
      have all turned aside. Most relevant to this topic, it says that there is none
      who does good, not even one. Now you can either choose to ignore these verses
      because you don't like to hear them, or you can accept what the bible says
      about the condition of men being truly evil in nature.
      
      Lastly we move
      to Matthew 7 verse 11, where Jesus Christ himself calls a group of people evil.
      As it states: "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to
      your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is
      good to those who ask Him!" Here you have it straight from Christ's own
      mouth.
    - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams
      
      David was a gross sinner (he committed adultery and murder), however God did NOT consider him evil. God called him a man after His own heart.
    - http://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.dixon.509 Jeffrey Dixon
      
      There are contradictory bible verses, that is true, however, I just got done showing you that the according to the bible, ALL men are considered evil. Now you can close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it does not say or mean that, but it will not change the verses.
- Wesley
  
  we had the opportunity to have a Christian choice back in the primaries Rick Santorum, Newt Geinrich, Rick Perry, and Michelle Bachmann were all good conservatives running. God does not cast our ballot for us nor gives our money to a campaign for us.
  - John Adams
    
    As I see it NONE of those you mention are qualified as Christian candidates – Santorum is Roman Catholic; Newt Geinrich is divoced twice; Rick Perry is an emerging church guy, at best; Michelle Bachmann is a woman and the Bible says that women are not to rule over men. IOW, we don't and haven't had a qualified Christian candidate.
    That does NOT change the fact that as Christians we are to vote for those who honor God, His Holy Word and obey His commands. I, for one, will follow God on this matter.
Old Observer

Depends on how you look at it. Easy choice? Yes and no. Yes, in that Obama will finish turning this country into a garbage dump if he gets reelected. And yes, because Christians know the truth and are not blinded to Satan's ploys. No, in that as a Christian, Mormonism is not our choice, and considered a cult rather than religion– (Satan's way of trying to defeat Christianity is to divide and conquer–and that is alive and well in full swing–unless we get it together )–but Mitt is definitely better than having someone in office that will hand us over to the UN, taking away our freedom. That is on the way. Obama's intent is to destroy this country. and he's well on the way unless we stop him. Hce has set the progress of diminishing racism back at least 50 years. While there has continued to be problems between some blacks and whites, it has escalated dramatically since he took office. Those who do not believe in Jesus or the Bible are not content to just ignore us, but are so hateful they want to eliminate Christianity altogether. I do not hare atheists–i only wish they would be willing to see the truth.
- petroskhan
  
  Actually, even though Mitt is a Mormon, and therefore not Christian by the strict definition (I know, I know, Mormons will disagree with me, but this is MY post. :P), at least his religious beliefs don't require that attempt to destroy our laws and culture.
  
  I generally agree that religion should be kept out of the realm of politics, since perfect are needed for a perfect government, but when it comes to islam, that ridiculous cult has no place in this country, and that means BO has to GO.
- Evermyrtle
  
  You are right those who do not believe, will not ignore us, they keep up the onslaught to try to defeat us. They cannot understand that while we work according to GOD'S will that is impossible.

Terry

There's no such things as black Christians. Jesus Christ only died for Jacob/Israel. He says so in Matthew 15:24, "I came only for the lost sheep of Israel." In other words, the seed line of Jacob/Israel. Which is the seed line of Adam through Seth, through Noah, through Shem, through Eber, through Abraham, through Isaac, and than through Jacob, who was renamed by God Israel. Adam literally means to blush, show blood in the face. Only white people blush. In other words, Jesus Christ only came for Jacob/Israel or a portion of the white race. he only came for white people, not blacks, orientals, Indians, and so forth. Only white people have the covenant of God and can be called by the new name Christian.

John Adams

I don't know what bible you've been reading.
- Old Observer
  
  Nor do I—perhaps this one is just a "plant" playing devil's advocate? Christ came for ALL—you sure haven't been reading any version of this Bible I know—perhaps th new "politically correct "one????
Granny

What a racist thing to say, I do believe that many of our Black Americans are good Christians and they for years were stronger in their faith than we whites!
- Old Observer
  
  I've been trying to figure Chris out for several days now—exudes so much hate—-
  - Granny
    
    Yes he does and that is so sad. I hope he gets over it. Thank you.
- Pastor Dwayne
  
  And STILL stronger that all most all whites.
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BX7Q3RKO7UTT6Q7TJE27NVGPQE lonestarlady
    
    I am sure.
Chris

Except that we were all black once. Christian ignorance knows no bounds. You are just confirming what I said and what the rest are denying. There are Christians who still hate blacks.
- http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
  
  Chris: You will notice that no one is agreeing with Terry, so don't try to pin his racist remarks on Christians. It is obvious he is not one.
Ron

I don't think there are any white supremest that are Christians either. Please don't say anything against Christians when what you are saying in not christianat all.
- nobozoz
  
  Yep, a so called white supremest Christian is an oxymoron, bet this guy doesn't even know what that is. This guy needs to go brush his teeth, it's been 3 weeks already. Can't he read ?, maybe he can't and only listens to some dork turning into a bobble head only agreeing with all the dribble he hears. The sad thing is all these black preachers forget Jesus teachings about being homo and about taking life and "suggest" their flock vote for some $%^& that backs exactly those things plus destroying this great country.. Things are bad, very bad.
SMRTNUP

Terry, . . Where did you get such pure GARBAGE from ?. . . You must have printed up your own "Bible According To Terry" ! . . . Your comment is total HOG-WASH !!! . . .
P.S. – THEN is spelled with an "E", . . not with an "A" . .
"You can take words and say almost anything with 'em" !
npoboz

MAN YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS SHMUCK, not only that but you're drunk on your own farts to boot. I suppose you also don't think Jesus is Jewish. You're as bad as those blacks that insist Jesus was black. Why do all you cretin buffoons screw the simple message of Jesus ? Go back to boffing your pig.

EstebanCafe

Perhaps American Blacks can vote, "based on the content of their character, rather than the color of their (or Mssr Obama's) skin" ? No ? Sadly, that is the definition of racism: selection/voting based solely on the color of ones skin.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't President Obama half white ? Maybe they can vote against that portion of the man ? Or, simply withold their votes ?

Evermyrtle

EstebanCafe, every Christian American, black or white, red or yellow, sinners or Christians, or anything in between, knows that every American "citizen" should be allowed to vote. You seem to have some problem with that. But, you are right there is still much racism about, not only the white against the black but the black against the white, also, which some will deny.
- EstebanCafe
  
  EM: No. I have no problem with everyone voting–but better to vote one's conscience than along the lines of color. Whether conscience or color inform one's voting says much about them; collectively, it says even more about your country. As Sir Edmund Burke stated over 200 years ago: Men and women are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains on their own appetites; in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding are above their vanity and presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsel of the wise and good in preference to the flattery of knaves [cf. Obama]. Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere, and the less there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men of intemperate minds cannot be free; their passions forge their fetters.
Pastor Dwayne

and only 6.3% black, the rest is Ishmael's race

John Adams

I think that most who call themselves Christians will have to search their hearts to make sure that they are not placing an idol before God, His Word and His commands. I don't really see how a true Christian can vote for either of the major party candidates. They both support things our God opposes. They also, both, support things our US Constitution forbids.
Are we going to be true citizens of Heaven and our nation, or are we going to blindly vote for the candidate of "our party"?
For those who think we need to vote for the lesser of two evils, may I suggest that as Christians we are NEVER to support evil, even if it is a less evil than another choice. We are to be holy, as our God is holy. We should vote only for a candidate that in no way violates any of God's commands.
This may mean that we have to vote for a 3rd party candidate or we may have to write in our pastor's name, or we may not be able to vote at all.
We must remember – God is sovereign. He is in control. He could change votes even after they are in the ballot box. We must also remember that we are living in the last days and God may be preparing the world for the Great Tribulation. Anti-Christ may be on the scene today and already be rising in popularity.

http://churchvictory.wordpress.com/ churchvictory

Yes, it is a sad state of affairs when Christians must vote for the “lesser of two evils” who is an adherent of Mormonism, a religion which teaches the abominable blasphemy that Jesus and Satan are brothers. Yet, with a clothes pin on our noses if necessary, we must vote for Romney because any other vote, or a no-vote, is effectively a vote for Obama, who is undeniably proven to be an unmitigated disaster. Obama’s particular anti-American deception and destructiveness must be cut short. For the sake of damage control alone, Obama has got to go. Without going into a lengthy political analysis, lets just look at life and death: Romney says he is now pro life; Obama has proven to be unswervingly pro murder. Romney favors repeal of Roe v Wade; Obama glorifies it. Romney agrees with parental consent; Obama eschews it. Romney has been on record supporting de-funding of Planned Parenthood; Obama reveres it. Romney is not in favor of embryonic stem cell research; Obama aggressively supports it. Romney has promised to scrap obamacare which if left unfettered, only the Lord knows how many will be harmed.
He has shown you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God? (Micah 6:8). Remember this: we are not violating or compromising our commitment to scriptural doctrine by making a practical political choice in voting, and we should not equate the two. Voting for Romney against Obama is not making a compromise to nor an endorsement of Mormonism. This election is just one battle in a long-term war. If we insist on writing-in someone or voting for a 3rd party candidate who we know will not win, we are only contributing to losing this battle for whatever its worth, and each and every battle makes a difference. Likewise, the only statement a no-vote makes is that Christians have a lack of political clout. We cannot keep ceding battle victories to the greater evil without things continuing to get worse and worse. We are not compromising biblical standards by not letting idealism deter us from the realistic political action we need to take for the greater good.
- John Adams
  
  I believe that as Christians, we have for too long voted for the lesser of two evils, and this has gotten us to the point we are now. Evil never decreases even if we vote for a lesser form of evil; it only increases.
  I believe that we have forgotten that God is sovereign and has the power to change the vote, even when it is in the ballot box.
  God wants to see if we who are true Christians can and will trust Him with the future of our nation. If we trust Him and vote for righteousness and holiness, I believe He will honor that trust. On the other hand, if we choose to vote for the lesser of the evils, we are saying that the power is ours and we must wield it as best we can.
  A number of years ago I made a promise to the Lord that I would no longer vote for evil of any level. I intend to look for a candidate who truly honors God, His Word and obeys His commands. If I find such a man, I will vote for him. Otherwise, I will write in my pastor's name.
  - Old Observer
    
    However we look at this–and you can say I'm wrong for voting the lesser evil—the victory will be God's, even if it is Obama again–in which case God's plan is on the move and we will have to live with it. But i will not vote for the current fraud, or someone i think has no chance of defeating him. And I will pray for God's will in this matter.
  - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
    
    John Adams says: "I believe that as Christians, we have for too long voted for the lesser of two evils, …"
    
    That is true, and it points out that Christians need to get more involved in the Primaries where the candidates are first selected. But it goes way beyond that. We also need to be out there evangelizing the population, bringing the Good News of Jesus Christ to the many who have fallen away to false religions or secularism. Otherwise, we can nominate Christian candidates until we're blue in the face, and a non-Christian population will not vote for them. Thems the facts.
    
    But until such time as Christian candidates get to the actual elections, we must vote out Obama no matter the cost, even if it means voting for Romney. You argue that God would not want us to do that, but you are overlooking the fact that if God wanted us to vote for a Christian candidate He would have placed such an individual into position where he or she would have a realistic chance of winning.
    
    If you write in your pastor's name or some other person who was not even nominated, you will virtually guarantee an Obama victory and an even greater likelihood that no Christian candidate will be found in the next election. In other words, it should be an incremental process, because unfortunately, the population has fallen so far away from the God of the Bible that it is going to take gradual moves back to what we once had before Christian candidates with genuine Christian principles can be elected. I think you need to be more of a realist instead of taking your 'all-or-nothing' approach. That approach is self-defeating, in my opinion.
    - John Adams
      
      I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with you.
      You still seem to forget the fact of the sovereignty of God. He raises up leaders and puts them down.
      As Christians, OUR responsibility is to obey God; NOT win elections. This business of viable candidates is showing a thinking that WE are to do the winning.
      We are to learn to trust God. Because of His power, EVERY candidate and even those who are not running for office are "viable candidates".
      No matter what we do, God's person will be put in office. God uses the good and the evil to bring about His will.
      Christians are to trust God and obey His commands.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      I am not forgetting the sovereignty of God. The problem seems to be that your definition of sovereignty is different than mine. Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but apparently you seem to think that we should take no action at all and just let God 'do' everything. But I believe scripture teaches that we are to take action, not sit on the sidelines. Do a search for "slothful" in the Bible and you will come up with verses like these:
      
      "The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute."
      
      Proverbs 12:24
      
      "He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster."
      
      Proverbs 18:9
      
      "Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;"
      
      Romans 12:11
      
      And don't forget, the Great Commission is certainly a call to action:
      
      "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."
      
      Mark 16.15
      
      We are dealing with an imperfect world, which has given us a choice between Romney and Obama, with Romney clearly the lesser of two evils. Your understanding of God's sovereignty is apparently that we should not participate in the election until there is an "ideal" candidate, or that we should vote for someone who isn't even running and has no chance of winning, thereby wasting our vote.
      
      My understanding, which I believe is more practical and in line with God's admonitions to take action, is to work with what we have and vote for Romney simply to put down the evil that we already know will emanate from a second Obama term. If you do nothing (or vote for someone who has zero chance of winning, which is the same as doing nothing), then you are taking no action to put down the evil that we know will take place, and in my opinion (and I believe Scripture backs me up) that is inexcusable.
    - John Adams
      
      I do not believe that we should sit back and do nothing. I've clearly stated that I intend to vote. However, I shall NOT vote for either of the major party candidates. There are other options. We can vote and still not violate God's commands.
      We can look for a 3rd party candidate who does honor God, His Holy Word and tries to obey His commands. If we are unable to find such a candidate, we are given the option of writing in a name.
      As I've said before, there are NO candidates with "zero chance of winning". God, because of His sovereignty can place in office anyone, even someone who is not running for office.
      Too many Christians seem to think WE are the ones who must win this election. Our better option is to obey God and His commands and let God control the outcome.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      No, the better option is to vote for one of the candidates whom God has actually placed on the ballot–Romney or Obama–instead of voting for someone He did not place on the ballot, like your pastor. If God had wanted your pastor or some other third party candidate to win the election, then He in His sovereignty would have placed that candidate on the ballot. You apparently still do not understand how God's sovereignty actually works.
    - John Adams
      
      I don't believe that God placed those men on the ballot. I believe they are Satan's men. God is wanting those who are Christians to trust Him and obey His commands.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      But I thought you believed in the sovereignty of God? Now you are saying that God is not sovereign over who gets their name on the ballot?
    - John Adams
      
      First of all, you're becoming ridiculous in your comments. Secondly, you are not reading very carefully.
      Yes, God is totally sovereign and all that happens is according to His plan. However, that does NOT mean that the names on the ballot are there because God wants us to vote for them.
      You MUST remember that Satan is also active in the world today.
      As a Christian we MUST obey God's commands and live and act according to His Word. Just because a name is on the ballot doesn't mean they are God's man. As a Christian we must vote for a man who honors God, His Holy Word and lives a life in obedience to His commands. If those who are selected by a political party to be their candidate don't meet those qualifications, a Chistian should not vote for them.
      I do not believe that either major party candidate meets God's qualifications. Therefore I will not vote for either of them.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      I would hardly call believing in the sovereignty of God over who gets placed on the ballot as "ridiculous". Either God is sovereign or He is not. True, He does allow Satan to operate within the world, but Satan can only go as far as God allows. I am holding fast to my statement, despite your objections, that the two names that appear on the Presidential ballot are the two names that God has allowed to be placed there in His sovereignty.
      
      If you still insist on wasting your vote by voting for for a person whom God has not allowed to be on the ballot, that is your privilege. Just don't expect me to believe your insistence that you are fully following God's will in doing so, and don't complain when BHO gets re-elected because you and others like you with the same mindset carelessly wasted your votes and played into his hand.
    - John Adams
      
      I will not be wasting my vote.
      If God allows BHO to win, it may be because God is planning to bring persecution upon the church in the US. It is a proven fact that persecution will help to purge the church, and the church in the US CERTAINLY does need purging.
      I think that we all believe that we are in the last days. God is getting the world ready for the Great Tribulation. BHO may play a major role in that Great Tribulation.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      You are correct that it may be God's will for BHO to be re-elected, but that does not absolve us of the personal responsibility to do everything we humanly can to prevent it, such as voting for Romney. God still expects us to make wise decisions.
    - John Adams
      
      I believe it is a wise decision to vote for a man who honors God, His Holy Word and lives a life in obedience to His commands. Romney doesn't fit the bill.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      And I agree wholeheartedly. But the idea is just too late for this election cycle. I believe we have no choice but to pick one or the other since God has placed them both on the ballot.
    - John Adams
      
      It is NEVER too late to obey God. I don't believe that God has placed those men on the ballot. I believe He has allowed it. And, I certainly don't believe that we are required to vote for either of them.
      I believe that if even a majority of Christians were to go against the tide of the broad way and to vote for a man who honors God, His Holy Word and lives a life in obedience to His commands, God would do something in this country that is far beyond our wildest dreams.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      You are certainly under no obligation to vote for either, but just know that such a decision may ultimately hand BHO the election. If you are OK with the fact that if you and thousands of others follow your suggestion it may well result in the re-election of BHO, and you can still sleep at night, then by all means follow through with it. I will not be wasting my vote but will instead vote for Romney and pray that next election cycle we can get a better slate of candidates.
    - John Adams
      
      I shall vote for a man who honors God, His Holy Word, and lives a life in obedience to His commands, and I will then sleep well knowing that I have placed my faith and trust in our sovereign God. My future, and that of our nation, is in His hands.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      Your idea may sound more pious and holy, but it will also assure that BHO gets a second term if enough follow your lead. Your ill-timed all-or-nothing approach, while sounding good in theory, will do nothing to rid the nation of the evil usurper BHO.
    - John Adams
      
      While we are to vote as we fell the Holy Spirit leads us, God will place His man in office however the people vote. I am of the firm believe God could place neither obama nor romney in the White House. It is all according to His will and for our good.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      You are correct that God will place the man in the office whom He has predetermined will be elected, but God ordinarily works through human institutions and processes to accomplish His will. If, for example, everyone physically and literally cast either a vote for BHO or Romney, but when the votes were counted, your pastor received 55% of the vote, there would be a mass voter fraud investigation. This would be a highly questionable way for God to accomplish His will, because it borders on deception.
      
      No, I do not believe that God works that way. He does not need to use trickery. Instead, He could easily place a godly man on the ballot if that was His will, and then cause 55% of the voters to legitimately vote for the candidate. He has obviously not done so this election cycle, so we can automatically assume it is not His will at this time to have a godly man as President of the US.
    - John Adams
      
      That is all true. Therefore, I will not vote for an ungodly man.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      Look, John, I'm not trying to be unkind, but I don't mince words, either. I am simply trying to get you to think about whether voting for someone who is not on the ballot is really the wisest choice. I know your heart is in the right place, and I know we both want the same thing for the USA–godly leadership by a man of integrity who truly honors God and His Word.
      
      I just think that the idea that we should vote for someone who is not on the ballot at this late stage is not the best approach for this election cycle. In other words, your idea is a good one, it is just to late to employ at this time. God has already placed two names on the ballot, and we know that one of them will become (or remain) President. The question is, do we want another 4 years of BHO? I think not, and the most practical solution that is within God's will would be to vote for his opponent.
      
      You are certainly not alone in your thinking that we should vote for neither, but I am hoping that I can get you and others like you to think about what the ramifications of such a decision will be. In my opinion, this will simply be playing into the hands of BHO and his minions.
    - John Adams
      
      As I see it, to follow your suggestion is to not place one's faith and trust in our sovereign God. I believe that voting for either of the major party candidates is playing into the hands of the Devil and his minions.
      While our nation under the leadership of Romney may be better than it being under the leadership of Obama, I'm certainly not convinced it would be better under Romney. Romney has supported gay marriage, he has supported abortion, he has supported government-run healthcare, etc.
      I have decided to place my faith and trust in our sovereign God and to vote for a man who honors God, His Holy Word and lives his life in obedience to His commands. I believe that is what God would have all Christians do.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      There is a lot I don't like about Romney either, but at least he is not a pathological liar like BHO. The problem with your idea of voting for someone else is that this election cycle is not the time to do it. Let me ask you a question: When was the last time in your lifetime you can remember a godly man in the office of the President? Me neither. You would probably have to go back to the 1800's to find one.
      
      My point is, that if we are ever going to get this nation back the the godly nation it once was, it is going to have to be a gradual process. The first step is to get rid of BHO before he destroys what few freedoms we have left. And the only practical way to accomplish that for this election cycle is to vote for Mitt, even though we may have many reservations about him.
      
      Then, for the next election cycle, we can begin anew to get a godly candidate nominated. You see, the problem is that secular liberal ideology has infected the minds of so many US citizens, that it may take one or more generations before we can turn things around. Just like a large ship does not turn on a dime, neither can we expect the US to suddenly do a 180 and completely reverse course. It may take some type of a disaster and/or a mass revival to do it, but so be it.
    - John Adams
      
      However, I believe that our sovereign God COULD change all of that. He could change our country IMMEDIATELY. I think that trying to do it incrementally is trying to do it in our own strength.
      I'm sure you know this verse:
      2Ch 7:14
      
      If my people, which are called
      by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and
      turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will
      forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
      
      While I'm not convinced that this verse directly applies to the Gentile nations today, I know we serve a God who doesn't change. I believe that if God's people, today that would be the Christians, would get themselves right with God, He could immediately bring healing to our nation.
      It also may be that God will use whomever wins this election to further bring about the end times.
      Either way, Christians need to turn to God, humble themselves, pray, seek His face, and turn from our wicked ways. Then God may heal our land. At the very least, or best, we will be ready for His return.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      Of course I agree that God could accelerate the process, and I said as much in my post when I suggested that it might take a disaster or mass revival. However, we cannot know whether something like that will happen, so rather than sitting around and dreaming of the possibility, I suggest we take practical, reasonable, incremental steps to save the nation, and let God worry about the details and outcome.
      
      I believe that trusting God does not mean to sit back and let the chips fall where they may, so to speak. We are called to be salt and light, as I'm sure you are aware, and so we need to take action with the tools God has given us, which includes our wits. Taking action does not constitute a lack of trust in God, or "trying to do it in our own strength", as you seem to imply. We know that God is sovereign, but we also have a personal responsibility as the people He uses to accomplish his will.
      
      I do agree that we as a nation must humble ourselves before God, and seek His face, lest He destroy us for our disobedience and rebellion toward Him. You may indeed be right when you implied that we could be witnessing the final events before the Lord's return, but again, that is also something we cannot know for certain. I still fully believe that we need to take practical, reasonable steps, including witnessing to others, to bring about change, not just steps that sound pious but accomplish nothing.
    - John Adams
      
      In no way am I suggesting that inaction is the path to take. However, it seems that the action we feel led to take is different.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      Yes, it seems as though I believe that God works more in practical ways, and you seem to believe He works more in miraculous ways. Nothing wrong with believing in the miraculous, but the only problem is, we cannot presume upon God to perform a miracle in our day, and while He could indeed do something miraculous, it is the rare exception rather than the rule.
      
      In my opinion, we have no business demanding or expecting a miracle, at least not one that throws all the rules of ordinary human endeavor out the window, so that is why I take a more practical approach. I believe that God uses ordinary persons and ordinary means, all of which are guided by His omnipotent power, of course, to accomplish His will. He guides human affairs in such a way that His perfect will is always accomplished, even if man thinks he is getting his own way, so the only miracle we notice is His unseen hand guiding the course of history, rather than something we would observe with our senses as supernatural.
    - John Adams
      
      I cannot disagree with those comments. However, I also cannot vote for an ungodly man.
    - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
      
      Then you are acknowledging that you are expecting a supernatural miracle. I believe in working with what we have and using ordinary means to accomplish a more godly direction for the USA by getting rid of BHO by whatever means necessary.
  - http://churchvictory.wordpress.com/ churchvictory
    
    Just wanted to say that as far as the last paragraph of your comment is concerned, I understand and respect your position; in fact I used to hold that position myself (although I was going to write in Ron Paul). This is a matter of conscience (cf 1 Corinthians 8). God bless you my brother and God's will be done.
    - John Adams
      
      I can understand your position. I used to hold it myself. I think that most of the people in my church, including our pastor, will vote for Romney, and, sadly, most of them don't see any difficulty with doing so.
      One thing we can both rest in is knowing that God's will WILL be done.
- Ron
  
  Very well spoken
Old Observer

I will vote against Obama, and leave it in God's hands. He can use anyone, even the evil ones (remember the OT kings?) to accomplish His plan. And–if you read today's world happenings through the lens of Bible prophecies, you can see that time is getting short. yes, we are not to try to name dates–as "only the Father" knows–but we are to be watchful, and in that I see signs that say our time is short.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1357090716 Jerry Morgan

Voting for Obama because of his skin color is the highest and purest form of Racism. No way to get around that. I wonder if they have given him a pass on being Muslim and homosexual too? Blacks have now become slaves to Obama’s Government. Some people are just not smart enough to be anything but slaves and they can‘t be reasoned with.

Chris

Voting for the rich white guy just because you don't like blacks IS worse racism. And Christians are doing that.
- guest
  
  Black has nothing to do with it. If Colin Powell or Condelezza Rice were running I would vote for them. They have character. This guys whole tenure is to destroy America.
- SMRTNUP
  
  One doesn't have to look very hard to see many valid and reasonable reasons to NOT vote for Barack "Hussein" Obama ! . . One big reason is within his NAME and the origin and implications of that name. . . . In addition, . . he has screwed up everything he's touched ever since he and his puppeteers USURPED our White House ! . . Under Obama's manchurian rule America has come a long way, . . STRAIGHT DOWNWARD like a rock which was dropped off of a tall building. . . What a JOKE !!! . . And the joke's on US !!!
- Old Observer
  
  Chris, you can't hide your hatred for Christianity. Christians will vote for the one they find most qualified. I don't know who hurt you, but you should not hate all christians because of one or a few. Are you, perhaps, a gay who was turned away by a church? Not all churches are the same.
- Evermyrtle
  
  You are describing the Democrats, rich, They are all rich and plan to keep every dime of it if possible. Oh yes, we do have some rich Republicans and as far as I am concerned all of you cn keep your money. It does not bother Conservatives Christians that there are rich people about. 'why does the rich bother you, so much.
  
  Blacks, I don't hear much about blacks from conservatives because we don't mind being black, we only want what is ours. but the liberals gripe about it all the time, about "rich" and about "black" You see, black people do not bother us like it does you.
- petroskhan
  
  Rich? You're complaining because he's got more money than you? 7 of the 10 richest guys in congress are Democrats, you going to hate them, too?
  
  How about you knock off with the socialist nonsense, pull your head out of your shorts, take breath of fresh air, and start thinking for yourself.
  
  It's only the lazy, socialist or both who feel it's fine to take money from someone who earned it, and give it those who didn't. Which one are you?
  
  Also, you might find this interesting:
  
  Democrats tend to inherit their money. Republicans tend to earn it.
  
  Senators John Kerry (D-MA), Jay
  Rockefeller (D-WV) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) all
  came by their fortunes through marriage or inheritance.
  
  Senator Kerry,
  who was born into wealth, has listed his net worth as high as $281
  million, while his wife Teresa is estimated to be worth $1 billion. Ms.
  Heinz did not earn her wealth either. She inherited the money from her
  husband Senator John Heinz, who died in an airplane crash.
  
  Senator Rockefeller, representing dirt
  poor West Virginia, inherited his fortune from his family. He is
  reported to be worth $136 million.
  
  While the economy continued to tank in
  2010, Rep. Pelosi reported her own wealth to grow by 62%. Pelosi’s
  husband, Paul is a financier. They own a multi-million dollar vineyard
  and a number of million dollar homes. They have a net worth of $196
  million.
  
  Former Democrat Rep. Jane Harmon
  (D-CA), who in 2010 was listed as the third wealthiest Member of
  Congress was married to the late stereo magnate Sidney Harman of
  Harman-Karmen fame. Together they were worth $493 million.
  
  Only Republican Rep. Michael McCaul
  (R-FL) married into major money. His net worth went from $12 million to
  $502 million in two years. The explanation? He married an heiress to the
  Clear Channel radio empire.
  
  Among those who actually got their
  money by earning it, Republicans were in the slight majority.
  
  Rep.
  Darrell Issa (R-CA), a self-made millionaire earned his wealth by
  creating the Viper car security system. He is estimated to be worth more
  than $700 million. Sen. Jim Risch (R-Idaho) started as a rancher and
  attorney. His wealth is cited as $88 million.
  
  Rep. Vernon Buchanan (R-FL), one of
  only three Republicans to make the top ten earned his money through real
  estate and car dealerships. He is estimated to be worth over $323
  million.
  
  The issue of politics and money has
  been a complicated one. President Barack Obama brought in far more money
  from Wall Street in his 2008 campaign than his Republican opponent Sen.
  John McCain (R-AZ). Obama raked in $1 million from Goldman Sachs
  employees that year. While his numbers are lower this year, the
  President has attracted $15.2 million from the financial services
  industry that he attacks so frequently.
  
  Many Democrats run institutions on Wall
  Street. Jamie Dimon, the CEO of J.P. Morgan has been a long-time
  Democratic supporter. So too has Goldman Sachs Chairman and Chief
  Executive Officer Lloyd C. Blankfein.
  
  I could go on with more, but I'm sure that even you get the point.

Granny

It is a shame that many of our Black Americans feel this way. Obama feeds on this. My heart goes out to our Black Americans that they should ever feel this way as they have such a wonderful heritage in this country. They don't realize that the Democrats and their own Black Leaders are the very ones keeping them on Uncle Sam's Plantation in slavery.

Chris

So you are going to vote for the richer than rich white guy whose church didn't allow blacks to join, shuns ex-members, won't allow you in their church,

"Wonderful heritage" – right – enslaved by Christians, discriminated against for farm loans, shunned by whites in the South – even today.

As you are clearly demonstrating – white Christians still hate blacks.
- John Adams
  
  You have, obviously, not seen the Mormon Tabernacle Choir for several years. There ARE blacks in the choir, and to be in the choir, one must be a member in good standing of the Mormon church.
- jas
  
  Please show me in your bible where the killing of innocent unborn children is right, regardless of their ethnicity.
  Obama as a state senator WROTE a bill, not sponsored, WROTE a bill that mandated babies who survived abortions to be left alone to die as it was the woman's wish in the first place.
  Where in your mind is that morally right, let alone Christian?
  You are so blinded by your opinions against whites you have no clue what is more important that white and black.
  - Michael G.
    
    Great come-back.
- Mex Seiko
  
  You have been voting for the slavery party which after loosing the war went on to become the segregation party which wouldn't approve Eisenhower's Bill of Rights, which JFK passed up and LBJ had to push through the back door. You think Welfare is a blessing from the Democrats, but in reality it's nothing but a farm of votes. It keeps the poor poor, creating a culture of entitlement in exchange for votes. Welfare is a micro-Communist experiment on State-Dependent Americans. The result is the ghettos just like in Nazy Germany, Russia, and China. Wake up!
- Steve
  
  You need to get your history straight. Those who did the enslaving were decidedly not Christians. Christians did purchase enslaved individuals but were also among the first to free their slaves when they got the opportunity. Washington himself did this upon his death, as did Jefferson.
  The villains were the people who opposed every single action on the part of the government, both prior to and long, long after the Civil War, that would have freed the slaves and that would have made them full-fledged citizens with all rights and freedoms intact. That opposition came from the Democratic party. With almost no exception, no blacks were members of the Democratic party for several decades after the Civil war, and the vast majority continued this way all the way through the 50's.
  If you want clear evidence look up David Barton of wallbuilders.com and get his video "Setting the Record Straight, A History in Black and White".
  - Southern Belle
    
    To get the history correct, the Civil War, the War Between the States, or the War of Northern Agression which ever one you like to call it, was NOT fought to free the slaves and end slavery. The north was not trying to end slavery. The war was fought over states rights. Sound familiar? The Government was trying to make a law that would cause all new territories that were applying for statehood to have to be free states and the Southern states thought the decision should be left up to the people of each state. If they voted for no slavery then the state would be free. If they voted to have slaves then slavery would have been allowed. The tide was turning against slavery. It was going to disappear eventually because people were waking up to the horrors of it. Just as it ended in England without a war. A by product of the North winning was slavery was outlawed but the bigger issue of states rights still exists today. That's the main reason the Federal Government thinks it can dictate to the states what we the people can and can not do. If the South had won, slavery would still be gone today AND States would have more rights and the Federal Government would not be trying to take over our lives. If there is another civil war it will be fought for the same reasons that the first one was fought. STATES RIGHTS!
    - Jeff Dixon
      
      If the South had won, the odds are there would have been two
      countries as the Southern states had established their own Confederacy. Whether
      they would have eventually gotten rid of slavery is merely speculative on your
      part.
    - Evermyrtle
      
      You are right, besides the North had slaves, too. But one thing I do not understand, why do we hear do much about the South and her evil in having and hear nothing about the North, her slave and her "sweat factories?" The difference in the South and her slaves and the North and her sweat factories or the sweat shops. The North worked children as young as 8 years for many hours a day for 5 or six days a week, hot airless buildings in the summer and equally as cold and dark in the winter. Laws were finally passed to give children time off to go to school.
  - Janet
    
    Steve not only did Democrats fight Civils Rights for Blacks but also hung whites also [who were Republican's ] because of standing with the Rights for Blacks.. not one Democrat was hung because they acted as though Blacks were not equal.. But ALL men(kind ) are created equal ,thus went the truth of God spoken in the Declaration of Independence ,because God used one lumb of clay to create all man(kind) The Bil passed under JFK and Johnson was put forth by President Ike Eisenhower but he couldn't get it passed because of the Democrat Party and if not for the Republicans carrying the vote it wouldn't have passed under President Johnson..
- Winston
  
  Chris, you have a point, but it is a bit misguided by historical evils of slavery. But consider just who sold Africans into slavery…their own kind in Africa. The whites were just "middle-men" and plantation owners which no longer exist, so do NOT perpetuate evil in your own mind…that is a sin. Your good point is the Scriptures warn about associating with idol worshipers (cults) and Mormonism and Islam are both man-made religous cults which have counterfeited parts of Christianity and Judahism. Vote your conscience – not political party; and if your conscience is filled with anger and hatred, just don't vote at all or consider writing in a name your respect. There are those who say your vote will be wasted, but they are those who are just as evil by being "followers of men" instead of God…the real God of the Bible.
  - Evermyrtle
    
    Don't worry about Chris, he loves to see his name in print. He usually has nothing to say!
- Granny
  
  Chris, I am going to vote for Romney. I know what the Morman church doesn't allow and I don't agree with it, it is their church just as it is the right of my church to accept everyone and we do. I am trying to say that I just wish our Black Americans didn't feel that they only have one person to vote for and that is Obama. If you will go back in history you will read that Muslims and their own people sold them into slavery. Read the book "Setting The Record Straight, American History In Black and White." It is some of the true history in this country concerning our Black Americans. By the way, not every white person believed in owning slaves in the South. If I had worked hard for my money and was wealthy would you despise me as much as you do Romney? I thank Corporate America as they allowed me to make more than enough money to support my children as a single mother. I don't dislike any person for being successful, I am happy for them.
  - Washington22
    
    I like you, Granny. You speak for me, too. Good posts…………
    - Granny
      
      Thank you for your kind words Washington22, I can always use another American Patriot on my side. God Bless You.
- tinytim
  
  NO!NO! it's the BLACKS that hate the white. I wasn't born yet and i get blamed for what they went through
- petroskhan
  
  I'm Christian, generally considered white, and I don't hate blacks.
  
  Wow, Chris…you're wrong AGAIN. You know, this is starting to look sort of like a lifestyle for you, being wrong all the time.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/RQSXJIXIII53M6WBYPBPI5I5HI A
  
  Chris,
  Either you're confused or just plain stupid. Whit Christians do not hate "Blacks." The Democrat party is the party of hatred and slaver! And a few "Anti Black" leaders – such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have made themselves rich of the backs of their "Black" brethren.
- John Munro
  
  give me a break throw me a rope. If this man who hates America could make it to the white house you are a winner and a cry babby! I supose you will blame it on bush?
  this guy wasted 5 trillion he did not earn on what? he has done nothing that I see positive unless you wanted to collect welfare? maybe you think he is Jesus because he is black?
  - Washington22
    
    Guilty, White America put him in the Whitehouse. Now the blacks scream louder and want more for what happened to them over a hundred years ago. Society has come around and evolved. We have bent over backward to make things equal and to level the playing field, but for them, it's still not enough and it will never end. We, as Americans, need to realize that. Affirmative action is one example of how we attempted to equalize things, and colleges, housing, food stamps, etc. In actuality, our attempt to rectify things has back fired. Now we have the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, speaking and leading blacks. White America elected a black man and no matter what is said or done, it is a "racial issue"…………….I seriously don't think we are ready yet……….Good bye Obama and I won't even say "good riddance." You have shamed your people and us as a nation and set us back for another 100 years with your horrible leadership.
- Michael G.
  
  You really don't know that much about the Mormon Church. It is only the Temple in Salt Lake that you cannot go into unless you belong to the church.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Brown/100002411832072 Paul Brown
  
  Chris, you thing this idiot is so wonderful, then please show us one thing this moronic muslim has done that has actually worked and created jobs in this country, beside his other half creating jobs for her own kind of people to help run her " Busy Life". Yeah, like she is so busy and so teriffic. She's an idiot just like him. He hasn't attended one jobs council meeting in over a year, but he says he has created jobs, how would he know? He has attended over 110 fundraisers and played 10 rounds of golf while most of Americans are fighting for a job, this jerk is only worried about saving his own job. Why don't you get real and put up or shut up.
- bill1776
  
  Reply to Chris: When it comes to morality you don’t get any lower than Obama! He came out for same sex marriages, homosexuals in the military and had a homosexual sodomite party in the white house. He is turning our country into Sodom and Gomorrah! God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah therefore a vote for Obama is a vote against God.
  Christ used the destruction of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah as dramatic examples of God’s wrath (Matthew 10:15, Mark 6:11, Luke 10:12, and Luke 17:29). Throughout the Old Testament, prophets described these cities as being notorious for the practice of homosexuality. (Genesis 18:20, Genesis 19:4-5, Isaiah 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14, Ezekiel 16:46.
- Wayne
  
  Many black churches today do not allow whites to join, there are also many black clubs such as the NAACP, Black college funds, black colleges, and on the list goes. White Christians do not hate blacks and never as a block have they hated blacks. Indeed, it was hundreds of thousands of White men who died to free the blacks, and many of them Christians. I wonder if many blacks ever sit to ponder that an entire Nation was willing to be ripped apart and lose their future strength to fight for the freedom of black people.
- Evermyrtle
  
  Do you know how much money Obama has, I bet it s a lot more than you have. Why are you not jealous of him,too?
- Evermyrtle
  
  Believe or not Chris, we will do much like you about voting, we will weight the good points and balance them with the bad points and then decide which man will make the best president. Unlike you, our good point will not jive with your good points. But, like you we will vote as we see fit and not at you see it. You re really far out in left field when your think long before the event you can tell how we will vote. We are not like you in weighing every person by his or her wealth. That to us, is unimportant and how they got their money is not your or our business, that is between them and GOD and never fear our GOD will take care of it, in HIS own time.
- Evermyrtle
  
  So you are going to vote for the richer, we won't consider your opinion when we decide to vote, we will vote like you vote, that is as we see best, to please us not you
- jude
  
  Ms Love who spoke at the RNC is Black…she is Morman. So what you say is wrong! Study more before you get carried away on non-factual info.
- Boomer
  
  I'm not a Mormon but to blame Romney for a doctrine of the LDS that has been reversed is really grasping. I'm a Christian myself, born again since 1979 and if I thought that way I wouldn't vote for anyone who didn't believe like I do. The thing is for any Christian to vote for someone that endorses gay marriage or abortion is abhorrent.
  
  Romney is rich! I'd rather be like him than a racist, socialist and liar like Obama. Lower taxes for everyone which puts money in the middle class pockets and allows small and large businesses to grow and hire more people and take the poor off welfare and prosper.
  
  But the dems want to give more welfare, entitlements and handouts to keep the poor poor and actually cause more poverty and unemployment. Raise taxes and businesses will layoff workers and cause more people to go on welfare.
  
  Anyone that supports abortion and gay marriage are murders and share in perversion. I mean pleeeease! Any true Christ follower that votes for Obama needs to go back to the cross and back to the bible and not just read but study. True Christ followers love and do not hate anyone.
Taquoshi

He who has ears, let him hear.
- Granny
  
  Amen.

Zoe2010

well, really race shouldn't be an issue – we're either believing Christians or not… what's very disturbing is that they're having a Friday jumah with grand imam siraj wahhaj and they've dissed Catholic Cardinal Dolan from praying at the dnc… church leaders should let their congregations know this, because likely the news media won't…

Old Observer

Just read that there will be something like 10,000 muslims at the Dem convention. Scary! Kinda adds to the belief that Obama is Muslim, not Christian as he tries to claim. But Muslims believe that lying to the enemy is acceptable–so he can do that—add to that the fact that converting to Christianity from Islam carries a death sentence——–

Sacha

@Terry: Have you ever read the book of Romans?? (10:12 for example)
You sound like an agitator who just wants to make Christians look bad in public.

Chris

"Crimes against Christianity" – who writes this garbage. Yeh lets vote for a cult instead. The Roman Catholic and Mormon churches are both cults. Oh and lets vote for a pair of clowns who cannot even agree on WHICH cult is the right one. .

It's just silly.

guest

Better than a Muslim who has proven he wants to do away with Christianity, much like Nero.
Old Observer

Perhaps you'd prefer a spiteful atheist?

http://www.facebook.com/janie.benz Janie Benz

It's not just black Christians, it's anyone who calls themselves Christian. We are in the process of living Daniel 7 and Revelation 13. Pray the vote but remember God is in control. There are no blacks and whites, only shades of brown. All one race (human)

philote

The article doesn't look deep enough. While it may seem ludicrous, indeed blasphemous, to attempt to raise Obama to the point where we could compare him to the Son of God, it would do us some good to look in this manner at these men and to the "source of inspiration" for them both.

- Jesus did nothing of his own will. He did only the will of His Father.
- Obama does nothing of his own will. He too does the will of his father.

- Jesus has one Father, the almighty God.
- Obama has a cornucopia of fathers – genetic, familial, spiritual and ideological.

- Jesus did only the will of the almighty God and sacrificed himself to save the people.
- Obama acts as his fathers did and taught, sacrificing others to elevate himself.

Jesus obeyed God. God is all goodness, and rightness, and there is no higher authority than God.
Obama obeyed men who were themselves not all good, nor right, and they followed…whom? We can see clearly whom they follow by just reading the dedication in the first edition of the seminal book of his ideological and behavioral father: Saul Alinsky.

In the dedication for “Rules for Radicals,” Alinsky wrote:
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: From all our legends, mythology and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”
Is it not incumbent on a generation who wants to liken Obama to the Messiah to look to the very source of who they follow to gain an understanding of what these men stand for and whom they serve?

After all they are touting him (Obama) as the "black Jesus". Do they not need to know who he serves when he makes legal the sins against the very commandments of God: adultery (in one of its guises as homosexuality, and denying the law of the land – DOMA), theft (wealth redistribution, saying it's "their fair share" for those that have to pay more, promoting welfare without work), murder (a staunch supporter of killing babies as a pretense to "women's reproductive health") false witness (too many examples to list),covetousness (by instigating and supporting the class warfare of the "haves" and the "have nots" that leads to the "occupy movements", undermining of immigration law, claiming that what is earned by some is actually a right for everyone and creating lust, envy, and social hatred as a result) ?

If Jesus were running for office today, as a nation we'd doubtlessly crucify Him all over again in the name of "tradition" and "social justice" and because we don't want Him to rule over us – it's happened before.

But Obama is running for office. And he clearly has no relationship or likeness to Jesus. Do you really want to go that route – again?

WVF

As a group, the Republican party should essentially ignore the Black populace. It's a waste of precious resources and time. There are many Blacks of fame and fortune whom I admire, but they are few in number. For example, I admire Condoleeza Rice, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Alan Keyes, Clarence Thomas, and Bill Cosby, among others, but The Democrat Party wants the Black populace to stay on the plantation with their hands out. It's a sad state of affairs, but about 98% of Blacks are going to vote for a fraud and Muslim plant who is supposed to be half White.

mallen11

I am really not positive that he is half white. Can't see any evidence of it. Could all be made up.
- Wesley
  
  his late mom was white as long as he truly is who he claims he is. his late grandmother who he says was a racist herself. why should be be looking for his birth certificate when we should be looking for his change of name application for upon his return from Indonesia he went by Barry Sotero and than decides to run for office under Barrak Obama. it is illegal to use two different names without legally getting it changed.
  - mallen11
    
    That's what THEY say and I agree with you but apparently no one is willing to do something about all of his lies and dishonesty in all he does. Everything about him is evil and against America. We just need to vote him out in Nov.
- WVF
  
  mallen11, please note that I said "supposed to be." It's really hard to tell much about his linage with certainty.
  - mallen11
    
    Correct. I hope we find out eventually.
    - WVF
      
      My friend, don't hold your breath!

guest

But if they decide that Obama is their savior, they should never claim to be Christians again.

guest

They mean the ones polled.

Richard Brophy

If this is true, this will go down in history that Blacks are indeed an unthinking people, and that they are racists.

http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ Ted R. Weiland

"Incredibly, some blacks have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama." And voting for Romney ISN'T forsaking Christianity?!? Listen to following by Jerry Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CtTP1s8BYk.

Gordon

Chris, we hope you are reporting the income and paying taxes on what you're being paid to spew your contrarian and ungodly propaganda on this and other threads. But, wait, I'm giving you too much weight in all this. It's probably just a "labor of love" on your part. You've got too much time on your hands, but you do so-o-o-o-o love the attention!

http://www.facebook.com/jerry.million Jerry Million

We know who the racist are and they are not the whites.

Gordon

It has nothing to do with race, certainly not with this election and knowing what we now do, it's Christ or Obama, but you can't have both!

Evermyrtle

Obama has truly become a GOD to many, these people need to look at themselves and get rid of this false notion, so that they can get right with GOD. GOD will not take second place and there is no reason why HE should, since HE made the entire universe and EVERYTHING IN IT. It is HIS to do with just as HE pleases, every Christian is the same to HIM, makes no difference black or white, red or yellow, but HE remain the head of everything, involved..

Schawminator

Yes, and the Godly thought reverts back to Baracka from which the name Barack comes from.

jas

Any man who wrote a bill to allow babies surviving an abortion to be left alone to die, which Obama did as a state senator, is NOT a follower of Jesus Christ.
They are NOT a Christian.

petroskhan

I do agree with your sentiment. However, grammatically speaking, that should read "He is NOT a Christian." "They" is plural, whereas "a Christian" would be singular.

Sorry, but that's a pet peeve of mine.

Anyway, as to your point, yes. 100% yes. Anyone who endorses, writes, or even obeys such a murderous and heinous "law" will surely be held accountable before God for such an atrocity. It boggles the mind how anyone could even think of something so inhuman, let alone attempt to make it a law.
- Evermyrtle
  
  Thanks for the English lesson but we are none are perfect in any way! I make mistakes like this most every day and catch it about the time that I press"post!"

http://www.facebook.com/judy.fornes Judy Fornes

Absolutely no contest here! Obama is closer to Satan than he is to being anyone's savior…

Beth Jones

A Muslem sympathizer or a Mormon. What a choice we have in America today. and so tragic!

Schawminator

There are tremendous amount of differances – are you serious. Start your google search for Islam first, then read a little of the Quran. You will then know all of what the Mormons don't believe in.

Schawminator

Yes this is a good start with Black Christians, but the actual practicing Black Christian numbers maybe too small to make any near or far term voting differance or even push the corrective action in place to help all of us as a society. Think of our government run school systems 1st for being the priority in making the corrective actions needed. Most blacks still don't know the history of their salvery and much less American history. They don't know who sold them into slavery, don't know what the differances were between the early Republicans and Democrats and which party fought for and against slavery. Don't know of all the supporting causes for the Civil War. Also, what party supported the KKK. They never heard that the slaves were actually given for reparations 40 acres and a mule and who took it away.
Their history and the American history has been rewritten. The Socialist and Marxist minded in our school systems have gotten to our children early and frequently by lying and omitting our history as it really happened.
The conservatives and belivers in the constitution, declaration of independance and the federalist papers need to teach to our future children in their early years to make these very importance changes in our school systems for us to become a Republic as our founding fathers gave us guidance for. They could even start with the 3 R's and the 10 Commandments.
Tell our children the truth and I say to the Black Christians do it in your churches and schools. We don't need another generation of useful idiots schooled for the left and far left side of the voting booth and neither do you. We have all too many idiots now and with more coming from Mexico.

jeff

What most don't understand is that they will sell their soul for Obama,and when they realize what they have done,it will be too late.That is not just blacks,but whites also.

Winnie Hines

This whole thing is tragic….I am so completely against what Obama stands for…I don't care what color he is or anyone else for that matter. I would have voted for Herbert Cain happily or anyone else who has a biblical world view..Obama does NOT!!! He says he is a Christian and I know we are not suppose to judge but we are suppose to be discerning and wise and so I watch his walk and it does not line up in anyway to his talk. I am horrified by all the lies and deceit. Please let go of the past and as Pastor John Hagee said, "Vote the Bible". We are all going to have to stand before God and I mean all of us and we are going to have to explain why we voted for a man who has proven that he is anti-God in everything he has said and done. Pray for wisdom in this election and vote the Bible…

Betz

This blog's posting policy would be amusing if not so hypocritical…" We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism, vulgarity, profanity, all caps, or discourteous behavior. Apparently calling our President "AntiChrist", Satan,etc is good Christian talk.

Leanne Pleshek

It'a a tragedy that many in the black community hold themselves to the bonds of slavery rather than serve the Living God that sets believers free. It's probably because many of their pastors keep them under this bondage by preaching the theme of social justice, which doesn't mirror the theme of individuality that the Living God teaches.

Winston

All Christian voters who vote against their spiritual conscience for Obama, or any evil leader destroying this nation, must consider the Scriptures before casting their vote. Example, GOD's Word tells us "come out from amongst them"; Proverbs 6:12 "What are worthless and wicked people like? They are constant liars,"; "be faithful followers of Christ" – not a follower of men; Psalms 141:4 "Do not let my heart incline to any evil, to busy myself with wicked deeds in company with men who work iniquity, and let me not eat of their delicacies!"
Let your heart and actions be guided by the Word of God and do not be enticed by the wicked evil of ungodly men/women for it will lead to eternal destruction in Hell…a very real place…with the father of lies, Satan.

daves

Anyone who thinks that President Obama has committed "crimes against Christianity and biblical principles" does not understand the message of love that Jesus gave us.

Ken

There is no one so blind as one who refuses to see.

David S.

Obama and Jesus should not be used in the same sentence. Ditto for Romney. I'm voting for Ron Paul. I can see, as usual, the "judges and juries" are out in full force today. Time to re-read Matthew 7:1.

Michael Odegaard

There is no need to racialize the topic. The fact is that the GOP's love affair with Ayn Rand is backfiring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0TxCWbTqz9s

NucUpDubDown

So a christian who believes in a woman's right to choose, is a no no. but a mormon who feels the same way, is a yes?

Bighoss

Right-wing zealotry does not make reasonable distinctions, Nuc. Stay around this forum and you will see plenty of examples of nut-job dissonance from the ultraconservatives.

http://www.facebook.com/david.paz.3720 David Paz

the truth here is not about race,religious thinking. the truth is the leaders of the country are fighting
against The Lord of Lords, and God of Gods. Remember what the Bible says about the end of days
"The world will be like in the days of Noah " God says marriage between man and a woman, and
leaders say is ok to marry somebody of the same sex.
Jesus is coming soon and the ones who do his will and accept him as a Savior will have the eternal
life.

dnnsparks@aol.com

The majority of white people alive today had nothing to do with racisim.Obama has nothing to do with christianty.When we stand before god how do you explain you voted for a president that kills babys.God said he formed us in the womb.Explaining the same president you voted for is teaching our children to ignore gods marriage of a man and woman,And telling our children to marry girls with girls and men with men.God is not white or black he is a spirit.

Chimera

Who's right? Who's wrong? The lesser of two evils? We cannot lean to our own understanding because the things presented before us is spiritual warfare! We all need to stand on the Word of God and pray for wisdom and guidance. Since we cannot predict what someone else says or does, we still have to stand on His Word. Could this be a diversion tactic that could play out to be worse than we can imagine? I wonder what's really happening while this issue is being debated among people of this country?

SicOfObama

Guess they are forgetting that obama is half – that's 50% – WHITE ! And, he's got more arab in him than black. People do not listen, or even care, they just assume. When all you see is the color, that IS racism. And, now we can stop this double standard, this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that blacks are racists, too. And, some blacks more than whites. obama's mother was white. His father was a muslim Kenyan. Now what does that make obama? Blacks are selling their souls to the devil, and may as well do it if they denounce Christ. Anybody who puts a man before God and His Son, Jesus, and worships a man, is breaking one of the most powerful of Commandments. Thou shall not have any other gods before Me. He is a jealous God, and I would not want to be in their shoes. They have done it and God will deal with them. A lot of whites will be there with them.

http://profile.yahoo.com/RQSXJIXIII53M6WBYPBPI5I5HI A

It's time for the "Blacks" to recognize that the Democrat Party is the party of true racism. Republicans fought a civil war to free the "Blacks." The Democrats found a way of herding them "back on the plantation." It's called "make them poor and then put them on welfare." They did this with as many "Whites" as they could suborn as well. The system has been working well for the Democrats ever since. Those on welfare should wake up and find out that they would be better off if they were able to find jobs!

John Munro

What puzzles me is this idea that if anyone disagrees they are raciest? why is it so many vote for Obama simply because he is black? It is quite well know his mission is to destroy America. $400,000.
is the base pay with out benefits. He has not made me a believer he deserves his pay.
Where are the green Jobs the shovel ready Jobs? where is all the money he wasted on bailouts where is his birth certificate? he is aganist everything this country stands for and he needs to return to where ever he came from without benefits or pay!

Marilyn K. Smith

Satan is the father of lies and his chief desire is to separate us. If he can get us to hate each other he has won because God is not a God of confusion and disunity. There are black who hate whites and whites who hate blacks and many people who hate Jews, not to mention Iranians. If we could all focus on God and Jesus as King, we would not be looking at each other to find faults. We, as Christ-followers, would be praying for each other and focusing on the Only who can bring us true Peace.

edinflorida

Slavery and Racism along with prejudices are wrong. I grew up in an era where racism and prejudices were an every day practice. This was because of ignorance, lack of education, and segregation. My parents were victims of this mentality due to their ignorance. I was one of seven siblings who grew up when these prejudices were acceptable. I am happy to say that none of our siblings followed our parents way of thinking. For years, prior to Obama appearing on the political stage, I saw very little prejudices and racism in our society. Since Obama has been president racism, and prejudices is worse than it has been in decades. Why is this so? My perspective is this. Obama has ramped up racism to energize the Blacks to come to his aid and vote for him and the Democratic cause thus victimizing Blacks. Blacks are used by the Democratic Party to gain power for them. Blacks are becoming more and more aware of this and ar beginning to speak out against this Democratic tactic. Obama has done nothing for Blacks making Obama a user and a victimizer of Black voters. Why, because Obama does not consider himself Black. Obama considers himself an Islamist Muslim. Obama is far from being a Christian. I would like to remind all Blacks that it was the White man who fought to the death to free the Blacks from Slavery. This fact has been to easy to ignore by Black leaders in hope of claiming credit for their continued freedoms. This is a lie because it was white men who fought and died to free the slaves.

Wayne

I too suffered racism in my youth, yet I do not hold it against the blacks. And yes, blacks do commit racist acts, so does our government by favoring one over another due to their color. Too bad that blacks are so racist that they cannot give a white guy a chance just because he is running against a black guy. It is also sad that the first black president of the USA turned out to be such a dud. If I were a racist, I would never vote for a black man again.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Linda-Bond/100000575975777 Charles Linda Bond

Could or would any TRUE Christian forsake Christ for Obama ? That would prove if you are a Real Christian.

I love my country

They need to go back to the Bible and understand, God is no respector of persons. And to vote for the one who makes laws contrary to scripture will give an account directly to God as will all. Jesus said you are either for me or against me, there is no inbetween. To vote for Obama who directly dictates policy against the scripture is the same as Jesus said, "if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Heavenly Father." To vote for him is to deny life begins at conception as well as that marriage is between one man and one woman. Not my words, but from the scripture. You can hate me, but that doesn't change the Bible, God's holy Word.

http://www.facebook.com/jackwaykoomans Robert Clive Jackway-Koomans

Not only does the 1st. Commandment demand that believers have "no other gods before (God)" – but in the 2nd. it talks about those who "hate" Him (alt: Disrespect, DISobey, Dishonour, Ignore etc.) developing "curses" (of their own making, with bad decisions etc.). The 4th. Commandment deals with their respect and obedience to pay all due respect to God as being THEIR God, and thus being recognised as HIS people (or not if they don't follow God). Thus, if they obey a mere man above what God requires, God has said through JOHN and others, that He will NOT recognise those who choose anything other than Him, nor will he listen to their prayers. – Now that is really tough talk from the one we owe our living to! "By God's very will (mind) does He hold all (matter) together". That will explain the last great lake of fire for those who do, and SUPPORT evil… the dismantling of the very atoms and quarks of those evil humans, creating a "flash" effect… You dont think you are evil as Obama supporters??? – by helping him, you have helped him MURDER babies, helped him create and support the sin of sexual lusts and perversions thereof, no matter what laws man makes to allow it… they offend GOD! Think HARD about this and repent, ask forgiveness from God, and DO the acts of repentance unafraid, and unashamedly in valour to teach God's word. Remember that God dislikes Cowards!

Wordman

While I sympathize, Black pastors who support Obama should be aware that they are selling thier Christian birth rights for a bowl of racial identity. In Christ there is neither black nor white, but we are all of a new race, a race to which we should give our highest loyalty regardless of our present skin color.

Wordman

If only people would take heed to Dr. King's words and consider not the color of a leader's skin, but "the content of his character." Ask ourselves this question: If Obama were white, would he have got 96 percent of the black vote in the last election, and even more, given his demonstrated hostility to Christianity, would the black church be supporting him now if he were white?

Scarlett OHare

Y'all should see how light-skinned blacks discriminate against dark blacks. They LOVE Barry because he's light skinned. Because I enjoy them so, I have lived and worked among Africans for years. But, check it out for yourself.

smogdew

There are so many intelligent/brilliant black people in this country. For how many years and how many times do they have to read/hear Democrats, and black leaders like Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, Rangel, Waters, Obama etc. whose screaming, shouting loud mouths spewing hatred, inequality, plantation mentality verbiage, before they see them for what they are?
I no longer feel sorry for them -if they want to join 'mainstream' society, then they will – there are more than enough avenues and more than enough people willing and waiting to embrace them (other than the Federal Gov't and its handouts) and help them on their way. But it's always the path of least resistance… so to that, I say – So sad, too bad..

Evermyrtle

This article id false there is a fairly good number of blacks who are very dissatisfied with Obama. Not a huge percentage but enough to make a difference. I have heard some of them speak and have talked to some of them.

Mike

To the contrary, all Christians must choose between Obama and Jesus. White Christian voters are responsible for his presence in the White House than Black voters alone,. It would also be wise for all Christians regardless of denomination to become familiar with the prophesies made in 1611 specifically for the end of the Twentieth Century by Our Lady of Good Success in Quito, Ecuador.
She clearly stated what was to befall Christianity in these times and that those who should speak up will fail to do so. Just Google that title and read it yourselves. It will cost you nothing to do so and may cost us all everything if you don't.

PPTA

I do not believe the Polls. I personally have quie a few Black friends who are not voting Obama.
Yesterday a couple of Black door to door salesmen stopped by our home. My wife who is Souix Indian, a registered member of the Rose bud Reservation in South Dakota answered the door. They demostrated their product they were selling. Then one of he men told my wife, "I bet the nieghbors wonder what two blackmen are doing going door to door in this neighborhood. (We live in the country)
My wife, took offense at what they said and told them so. She also told them they pre-cocieved thoughts about the people, who were our neighbors, which to her were racist. She told them as they continued down the road, they would find two black families that were neighbors of ours. How we had bar-b-cues together. She told them about our Black son-in-law, and his famiily. Then she told them, if there is any racisim here right now, it is you with a remark like that. These to fells didn't know what to say. Here was a petite Souix indian woman, a sixty four year old, scolding them. My wife always speaks her mind. When growing up in South Dakota, she knows predujuce. She went through what Blacks did down South. It isn't as bad as it use to be, but it is still there.

Washington22

Dear God. Read the last paragraph above. That 84 year old would rather sell his soul than NOT vote for Obama………..What a crying shame. I'll pray for him to re-evaluate his decision. He still has a couple of months. Still, many will NOT go against the bible. I think some, a small percentage, will vote for Romney . In essence, against Obama for his heathen ways. True followers can differentiate between the Lord and the devil. Pray for our black brothers and sisters.

Evermyrtle

The poll was falsely made by the lying liberals. It is well known, that many blacks will vote for Romney against Obama. They have seen the damage that he has done to the country and they are as sick of it, as we are.There are many blacks speaking out against his ant-American, anti-GOD decisions he is making and are sick of him. Of course there are also, many who are racist and for other reasons who continue to support him. It continues to amaze me at the ignorance spoken out about the blacks, all being for Obama.

John J Flanagan

As a white man, I do not support candidates on the basis of their being white. I support or oppose them on the basis of their convictions. If a candidate is for abortion for convenience and favors same gender marriage, both abominations for a Christian, he or she will never receive my vote. I would expect a black Christian voter to also feel this way. There is no loyalty due a candidate who shares one's color simply based on that fact alone. It is both immoral and absurd. As Christians, we serve Christ, knowing that both black and white believers, as well as believers of other ethnic groups have our trust in the heavenly kingdom alone. As Americans, we must be good citizens. As voters, we must be discerning and wise, people sharing our faith and values in a fallen world, and lights on the hill. I fear that many black Christians will support Obama regardless of his earthly and unbiblical values because they value racial politics. If they discern racial politics in a white voter, they condemn it, while they do not see the plank in their own eyes. We must pray for our land. These are trying times.

Janet

If this elderly man knew that obama does not have one ounce of slave blood in his body and that obama being a muslim is closer to those muslims who took blacks as slaves and also were the ones to started slave trade.. then he might do the right thing and think of Yeshua suffer more than any slave and that Yeshua died for him,obama is only interested in his vote ,obama is using the color of his skin to win black votes … also if he cares to know it was Democrats were against freeing slaves .. Republican's were the ones who wrote every Civil Rights Bill and it has always been the Republican's that got every one of those Bills passed by their vote..This is sad that this elderly Black man is misinformed and about History and decieved by obama.. IMO obama is a disgrace to the Black Race

http://www.facebook.com/frances.carney.1 Frances Carney

The thing that evidently black and whites are Missing…is….Obama is half black and half White.
Why do we only hear about the Black half??????

nobozoz

because both halves are of the liberal buffoonery persuasion

nobozoz

there is just no way a person that calls him/herself a Christian can back a guy that supports gay marriage and abortion is anti Jesus (covers up anything Christian at his political functions) and anti family rights. That would be like a guy saying he's a woman or a man saying he's a dog. It's just plain B.S. Admit you're NOT and that something else is your god and NOT Jesus. The same thing goes for j witness people that believe Jesus is Michael the Archangel and Mormons that say Jesus is Satans brother. All these people do not believe Jesus is who He said He was so by default they are not Christians. They may be better people morally and otherwise but they are not Christian. All these black preachers that tell their congregation to vote for O because he's black without regard to his position on basic Christian principles. Their real god is their race and NOT Jesus. Why don't more people note this and say it. It's the 2 ton elephant in your living room that everyone ignores for fear of being called racist. It's not, it's just plain truth.