Ryan's Speech at RNC Will Frame Election

On the 13th of August, after returning from the Rally in Norfolk, Virginia where Mitt Romney introduced Paul Ryan as his Vice Presidential running mate, I wrote an article entitled "Romney Goes Bold: Pro-Life Catholic Paul Ryan Chosen as Republican Vice Presidential Candidate."

I made clear I was writing that article as a private citizen. I once again make that clear as I write this article. I opined that I thought the choice of Paul Ryan demonstrated that Mitt Romney was willing to make bold decisions in the interest of tackling a serious crisis in this Nation. I underscore that after having just heard one of the finest political convention speeches I have heard in many years.

On the 13th of August I wrote, "I believe Mitt Romney is correct in his assessment of this gifted man. He is a talented public servant, a truly good family man, a faithful, genuinely Pro-Life Catholic and, as I found out today, much, much more. This man is a tremendous communicator. I have never heard him speak in public and I was truly impressed."

"When Governor Romney called Congressman Ryan up to the podium, he mistakenly referred to him as "the next President of the United States". He quickly returned to correct the gaffe. However, as Congressman Ryan spoke, I actually wondered if the mistake may someday prove to have been accurate. Ryan's sincerity, down to earth demeanor, warmth and believability reminded me of a young Ronald Reagan.

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Jim Patriot

I had already thought the same thing. Here's how I hope it goes, R&R for 8 years, then Ryan & ? for 8 more. Voting out every liberal communist at every opportunity!
- Mary Wood
  
  Good call, Jim!!!
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O24NYT5HOQNDEJ3TUT5QOTLOF4 TM
  
  Sounds like you are a real American
sharon

I am concerned by the image being built of what and what is not pleasing to the Lord. Who were those people who prayed? Ryan claimed in a statement about Romney faith something to effect that their the same as far as values or something, Let us not compromise what is required of us according to his Word and not to flatter one other in lies. Bottom line is if we as a country do not repent, and do not stop making wrong right, And stand by those things that are an abomination to the Lord we will be judged. These leaders need to remember Nineveh put on sackcloth and ashes and repent. Do you really think anyone is going to change this course unless those who lead built it on the Lords will and foundation think again no foundation or beginning is successful unless those that build it build it in and on the Lord's foundation!!
- Vladimir
  
  Electing R&R will be a good start to the repenting process.
  - Evermyrtle
    
    Right, the lesser of two evils.
    - Mary Wood
      
      These two men are not evil at all.
- Mary Wood
  
  Sharon: The church of Romney's faith is apolitical. In contrast, the U. S. Constitution is atheological. I have no problem that the man Romney will never call on "God to damn America." What do you think will be compromised?
  - Ithamar
    
    Mary, your post indicate you are ignorant of almost everything you claim special knowledge: the Bible ("do I have to tell you what the bible says"), the Mormon Church ("apolitical"), and the Constitution ("atheological", you may have just invented a new word). I highly recommend you study the Bible, read the Constitution in the historical context of American Christian history and gain an workable understanding of 'cults' in America with their incessant political intrigue (especially Mormons beginning with Joseph Smith). Otherwise, it is best to keep silent lest you display more ignorance.
    - Mary Wood
      
      I stand by all of it. You reveal your ignorance in your process of demeaning my beliefs and knowledge. My definition of cult: any revealed religion. How can it not be when that definition — no matter how well-cloaked it is in you own sects' spinning — is used against the Mormons. I WILL defend the Mormons. They are the most worthy Christians that I know.
      
      Fact: The Mormon Church (actually the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or LDS) is apolitical.
      
      Fact: The Constitution stands on its own as a legal document of secular law, therefore is atheological. I had a great English class in high school, they actually exist in the USA, great schools, that is, and there, I learned the meaning of the use of the letter "a" as a prefix in front of a word, it means "without" in that context; other examples: amoral, atypical. If you like, you can just use "without theological reference" in regard to the Constitution. It would mean the same thing.
      
      Fact: It is never best to keep silent in the face of evil, Ithamar.
- Evermyrtle
  
  An excellent post. We have built on the evils of Satan in America for many years. Our choice for a candidate, right now, "is the lesser of two evils." That is really the best that I know how to put it. Unless GOD takes charge, we will sink lower and lower in GOD'S standards for us, with each election. I believe it is just before HE will make a great decision for the world as a whole.
Goatie

I totally agree. Ryan is an answer to my prayers since he appears to be another Reagan…actually better. He is just what we need at this time in history and I pray that he will influence many generations to look to our Constitution as the Law of the Land.
Ann Marie

I'm thrilled to see an American flag pinned to his jacket – and most of all, to hear "May God Bless America" at the end of a speech! It's been way tooooooo long, in my opinion.
- Chris
  
  There are no gods. Why is he a different religion from Romney? Why can they not agree on that simple thing. Both religions are pure fiction.
  - Luzmark1
    
    Proof and facts please.
    - Michael G.
      
      Chris has been on these sites with the same old tired scree. Ignore him. That hurts worse than anything.
      - Luzmark1
        
        Thanks, nothing worse than wasting time on sons of perdition~. I'm trying to follow Paul's advice to Titus, "Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition,knowing that such a person is warped and sinning,being self-condemned." Titus 3:10,11.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Luzmark1: sons of perdition are those spirits without a body… you know like Satan… Chris is not a son of perdition … do I have to tell you about what the bible says about condeming others?
      - Dave
        
        Mary!! WOW! People like Chris you do NEED to tell it as it is, You can NOT lie on what they are doing or saying. Jesus even says you talk or claim but He still do NOT know you!!
        So a piece of advise!! Look ,listen and research!! the Truth will show itself!!!
        Like with Chris he is angry for some reason, Most likely because God did not answer his plans or prayer as he wanted.
        Like so many other here that bash Christians and God is due too something THey wanted and did not Get! As you claim you studied faiths, You would also know God almost always answers prayer but NOT what you wanted or how it was done.
      - Mary Wood
        
        I think Chris is a man who is very perceptive of hypocrisy, that's all. Why are you preaching to me about Chris? Why don't you fellowship him? Isn't that what Jesus taught? All I see is condemnation. I think Chris has done his share of exposing his frailties when it comes to reality. Why is there not one person who has taken up the challenge he presents? I do not understand pseudo-Christians. I recommend to Chris that he study the constitution to make sure his rights are protected in such an environment.
      - mallen11
        
        Dave, Mary Wood will never understand because…
        
        1 Corinthians 2:14….But the natural man (unbeliever) receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
      - Mary Wood
        
        You are the unbeliever, cultist Mrs. or Mr. mallen11: Here is what I believe:
        
        THE BOOK OF MORMON Mosiah 3:19 For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.
        
        YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY mallen11
      - Evermyrtle
        
        Christians do not regard the book of Mormon,We live only by GODS WORD called the Bible. I only have seen glimpses of that book. It does not give JESUS CHRIST THE HONOR OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, I believe!
      - Esther
        
        Evermyrtle: There is truth and falsity everywhere. choose what you will. No one is preventing you of doing so.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Dave: Again Chris is attuned to the hypocrisy that is pretty rampant on these forums, e.g. mellen11, when Chris sees a problem you need to at least try to understand where he is coming from. If you don't then you can forget that you will have any effect: here is what I believe, it may orient you as to how to help Chris, rather than condemn him like you do:
        
        THE BOOK OF MORMON Mosiah 3:19 For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.
      - Luzmark1
        
        Sorry that you didn't see the little (~) after I wrote perdition. They are lots of sons/(daughters) of perdition out there because their names will not be found in the Lambs Book of Life no matter what evidence /witness they get. You say "Sons of perdition are spirits with out a body ? you need to look that one up again in the dictionary.It means the final condemned state of the soul. Anyway because they will not recieive God's evidence or wittnesses doesn't mean that we like Jesus did to Judas don't try to bring that person to a saving knowledge of Jesus.What the scripture says is not to let the unbeliever get the believer stressed out trying to refute their scoffing abusive unbelief. Proverbs 1.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Iuzmark1: You called Chris a son of perdition! That is the worst, the bottom line. You can put a squiggle in the statement, doesn't change what you called him. It is the ultimate most damning thing one can call another, yet at the same time you quote scripture and you think that makes it alright!!! It is bearing false witness, plain and simple. Is it any wonder that people like Chris have doubts to the validity of Christianity? You and people like you do it all the time. You use the worst intimidation then condemn others and call it your religion. Gladly, I saw you and folks like you coming and did not join any of your nefarious groups. Instead, I follow the Mormon doctrine, as I understand it, that sons of perdition are not human, they are evil and they are spirits only. Mormons never count any human beings as lost. "It's not over til its over" you might say, is how we look at it. You don't know who is chosen, be honest luzmark1, you can claim you know but you don't. I know no one can know that except an all knowing God, who has not revealed all there is to know. If we knew it all, we would be like the Gods, and you don't claim that, do you? The fact that we want to know the things God knows, after all, is you major case against Mormons and the thing you pseudo-Christians most like to laugh about the Mormons, am I right, luzmark1? That would be hypocrisy.
      - Luzmark1
        
        Mary, Mary, That you are Mormon settles the issue. First there is your need to believe that Jesus is the ONLY SON of GOD, who is your ONLY sacrifice to God for your sin/sins, and that you listen to Him.Then after that, you will recieve the Spirit of God so you will see the error (spiritually and evidentually)of the Mormon doctrine/belief. Then you will be able to discern what is from God and what is not. Jesus reveal Yourself to Mary In love and in truth.
      - Mary Wood
        
        I knew this would "settle the issue" for you Luzmark1. What you have given me is the alternative of the spin-off of the Catholic church, a cult as well. I am very familiar with your "benefits." And I chose to associate with the best Christians I could find, and they are the Mormons. Why don't you try to understand their position? Do you fear intimidation from your peers? The latter would be a good reason not to tell anyone, but we are encouraged to be brave and share our testimony, however weak mine is, I intend to share it. I believe I am a worthy Mormon and proud of it. I have to face insults like yours everyday.
      - Luzmark1
        
        Mary ,settle down you are going to blow a fuse. The little (~) means, if ,maybe, if the shoe fits , if it quacks, He may be a son of perdition if he doesn't believe in Jesus in the time given him. That you are Mormon means that you give different meaning to words. So in any conversation with you all terms need to be defined. Judas and the man of sin (the coming Antichrist) are the only ones prophetically called son of perdition.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Luzmark1: Thank you for your concessions to my "problem." Good. Then someone owes Chris an apology, even though he doesn't understand or care! Please tell me why should evangelicals or whatever it is you and the others are, not identify yourself and proceed with caution from there knowing that definition of terms bring about misunderstanding? Although, you must know its a "stretch" because some people hear the name Mormon and they totally shut down reasonable communication. I have never heard of the ~ device as you have explained. Is that for real or is it something you made up. Also, two thousand years is essentially zero years in an eternity, don't you realize all you fear could actually happen a trillion years from now, but those who think all is imminent, they place a great burden on those of us who are just trying to live a good life which is all I believe a good and gracious God expects.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Luzmark1: Thank you for your concessions to my "problem." Good. Then someone owes Chris an apology, even though he doesn't understand or care! Please tell me why should evangelicals or whatever it is you and the others are, not identify yourself and proceed with caution from there knowing that definition of terms bring about misunderstanding? Although, you must know its a "stretch" because some people hear the name Mormon and they totally shut down reasonable communication. I have never heard of the ~ device as you have explained. Is that for real or is it something you made up. Also, two thousand years is essentially zero years in an eternity, don't you realize all you fear could actually happen a trillion years from now, but those who think all is imminent, they place a great burden on those of us who are just trying to live a good life which is all I believe a good and gracious God expects.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Luzmark1: Thank you for your concessions to my "problem." Good. Then someone owes Chris an apology, even though he doesn't understand or care! Please tell me why should evangelicals or whatever it is you and the others are, not identify yourself and proceed with caution from there knowing that definition of terms bring about misunderstanding? Although, you must know its a "stretch" because some people hear the name Mormon and they totally shut down reasonable communication. I have never heard of the ~ device as you have explained. Is that for real or is it something you made up. Also, two thousand years is essentially zero years in an eternity, don't you realize all you fear could actually happen a trillion years from now, but those who think all is imminent, they place a great burden on those of us who are just trying to live a good life which is all I believe a good and gracious God expects.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Luzmark1: Thank you for your concessions to my "problem." Good. Then someone owes Chris an apology, even though he doesn't understand or care! Please tell me why should evangelicals or whatever it is you and the others are, not identify yourself and proceed with caution from there knowing that definition of terms bring about misunderstanding? Although, you must know its a "stretch" because some people hear the name Mormon and they totally shut down reasonable communication. I have never heard of the ~ device as you have explained. Is that for real or is it something you made up. Also, two thousand years is essentially zero years in an eternity, don't you realize all you fear could actually happen a trillion years from now, but those who think all is imminent, they place a great burden on those of us who are just trying to live a good life which is all I believe a good and gracious God expects.
      - Luzmark1
        
        See I warned you that you may blow a fuse (repeated post) Dear Father I pray for Chris and Mary that they would hear the voice of Jesus so that they may respond and start their new life in You. Gone way off topic so God bless you for your obedience to Him.
      - Mary Wood
        
        That was a malfunction of the computer Luzmark1.I had to click my name several times before the post "took." Believe me my reason is intact. Even though it is repeated, you have not addressed the issue. First of all, I don't need to be grouped with Chris. We are not at all a group to be treated like we are the same "problem." The topic is whether you should call a child of God who is using reason, a son of perdition. You are the one off topic and needs to get back on track.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Don't lump me and Chris together please. How would you like it if someone did that to you? When will you so-called Christians ever learn to treat non-whatever-you-are with some dignity?
      - Mary Wood
        
        YOU blew the fuse, AND MISSED THE POINT. NO SURPRISE THERE.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Luzmark1: Then now that you know I am a member of the Mormon church, that is all you need to settle the issue, to make it okay for you, a "Christian," to call Chris a son of perdition. You prove my point.
      - mallen11
        
        Luzmark1, it is useless to get through to Mary Wood since she is endoctrinated to believe the book of mormon over the Word of God. She will twist everything one says to meet her own confused mind. You are absolutely right in what you say is her need. They do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible. I too am praying for her.
      - Mary Wood
        
        mallen11: YOU are delusional, the Ideal Cultist, and I will not join your cult. try though you will to intimidate me,
      - Mary Wood
        
        mallen11 wrote, quote"
        Luzmark1, it is useless to get through to Mary Wood since she is endoctrinated to believe the book of mormon over the Word of God. She will twist everything one says to meet her own confused mind. You are absolutely right in what you say is her need. They do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible. I too am praying for her"
        
        Luzmark1: mallen11 is delusional
      - Mary Wood
        
        Take a break and read over these posts, Luzmark1. You are blowing hot air. I see the error immediately in you illogic.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        Perdition- the loss of one's soul, or the joys of heaven; final spiritual ruin; hell
      - Mary Wood
        
        Why would you want to hurt a struggling American? … the least of us
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_O24NYT5HOQNDEJ3TUT5QOTLOF4 TM
    
    Your an idiot and will do the devils deeds.
  - Mary Wood
    
    Chris, get beyond this and study your U. S. Constitution. It makes an alliance among men of different ideologies possible which IS the reason we are an exceptional nation. Romney talks about it in his book No Apology: A Case for American Greatness. Read it. He will likely be our next president. mittromney.com
  - Evermyrtle
    
    I believe there is some fiction involved here, you are a complete piece of fiction, led and taught by Satan. That is so sad for a person to be completely lost in the evils of Satan and loving it but hating everybody who is GOD'S person. I imagine you must be a perfectly miserable person depending by on all the hate in your posts.
    - Mary Wood
      
      Mosiah 3:19
      19 For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.
  - Jeff Dixon
    
    The current president and vice-president follow different versions of Christianity, Chris. Why can they not agree on which version of Christianity is the correct one? Why are you criticizing them for their versions of this fiction? I fail to see you argument on this topic.
    - Mary Wood
      
      Chris has made it exceedingly clear he has no premise or predisposition to study to see if there are any differences in what he already sees as fiction. It takes a scholar like yourself to look at these differences, even if it is fiction with the seeming implication that it is moot. Yet, it is relevant however menial you might be tempted to take it, and the impact on civilization is profound. I contend that Chris, as all young and ambitious, has a gut reaction to know, to realize the implications of the differences even though he has not reached the stage of articulation like yourself. He could use a mentor.
  - Mary Wood
    
    Differing kingdoms in heaven. At the final judgment, each person will be assigned to an eternal dwelling place in a specific kingdom of glory, except those who are sons of Perdition.
    Jesus said, In my Father’s house are many mansions, John 14:2 (Ether 12:32). There is one glory of the sun, and another of the moon, and another of the stars, 1 Cor. 15:40–41 Paul was caught up to the third heaven, 2 Cor. 12:2
  - Mary Wood
    
    They agree on this Chris:
    
    Differing kingdoms in heaven. At the final judgment, each person will be assigned to an eternal dwelling place in one of the specific kingdoms of glory, except those who are sons of Perdition. Jesus said,
    
    In my Father’s house are many mansions, John 14:2 (Ether 12:32).
    
    There is one glory of the sun, and another of the moon, and another of the stars, 1 Cor. 15:40–41
    
    Paul was caught up to the third heaven, 2 Cor. 12:2
- Washington22
  
  On that note, Ann……..Our whole convention included God. Every person who spoke, except for Clint, thanked or praised God in some way. Our convention began with an invocation and ended with one. My heart soared. With all the revelations of Romney's Godly and charitable past, we are indeed blessed to have such a man as our candidate. The support from the past olympians was amazing and profound. What do the Dems have? Sandra Fluck and the idiot woman from Mass. Talk about your stark differences……………..
carneypost

He is a treasure and a genuine human being. His agenda is right out there and not hidden. I pray that God will bless him.
Evermyrtle

Paul Ryan's entry in the race sure make things look better. I just wish he were the Republican Presidential candidate, instead of VP. I would fell much better about it.
- Mary Wood
  
  You are a greater distance from Catholicism than you are from Mormonism, I am a member of both, you are close to neither.
http://www.facebook.com/lee.vail.39 Lee Vail

Something stinks within the GOP, I distrust them but I distrust the Dems more.
- Mary Wood
  
  Why don't you tell us what, so we can counter your argument, if necessary, accordingly?
Richard Brophy

It's odd. All throughout the primaries, I've heard Paul Ryan's name being thrown around as part of the vice presidential short list. But it wasn't until Paul Ryan's name was officially announced that I all of a sudden felt excited. He really is a very good choice. The man is cogent, eloquent, intelligent, forceful, and articulate; he definitely adds vitality to Romney's campaign, and I believe he will be responsible for turning a many independents (and maybe even Democrats) to vote for their Romney-Ryan ticket.
- Mary Wood
  
  Romney choose well, that is the point. And remember no man is an island, not even Paul Ryan. It is the American process working the way it is supposed to work. And I know that Mitt Romney is the man who understands this better than any at this point in history. Romney is about to make a lot of good choices.
Chris

Sure it frames the election it was misleading and full of lies. Usual for a Christian.
- Mary Wood
  
  What would you have us do otherwise?
  - Michael G.
    
    Better to ignore this duffus…
    - Mary Wood
      
      Let's see if he takes the challenge to read the constitution or Mitt's book. I am ready to raze him about it if he doesn't. Thanks Michael!
Mary Wood

Mitt Romney chose very well, as I knew he would and will in the coming years. Churches should remain apolitical as demonstrated by LDS. When Ryan acts as a public servant I know that Ryan will do so also without pressure from Rome, as he has done in the pass and how Americans expect he will. Romney-Ryan 2012-2020.
- daves
  
  If you've seen any coverage of Paul Ryan's speech in Tampa, you know
  that the consensus among journalists and independent observers is that
  it was … factually challenged.
  
  He lied about Medicare. He lied about the Recovery Act. He lied about
  the deficit and debt. He even dishonestly attacked Barack Obama for the
  closing of a GM plant in his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin — a
  plant that closed in December 2008 under George W. Bush. He also failed
  to offer one constructive idea about what he would do to move the
  country forward.
  - Mary Wood
    
    Hi Daves: I am honored you thought to respond to me. Please, do me a favor and send your esteemed journalist's links so I can responsibly address each one. I warn you I am a staunch supporter of Gov. Romney and believe wholeheartedly that he makes good decisions, even in choosing Paul Ryan, of whom I am diametrically opposed to his (Ryan's) Catholicism. And while I am a Romney-Ryan supporter, I am attune to any bad decisions either has made or will make. And just so you know, I have an internal barometer as most women do, and we know when men make wrong decisions by looking at the way they have acted and succeeded previously and especially how their marriage(s) are faring. I really like the latter aspect of my knowledge of men because I think it is the most accurate. Take a good look at the families of these man and tell me they are not good. In the meantime while you do that research I will take a look at your evidence given by the links of the journalists you mentioned. Please forward asap. Thanks.
    - daves
      
      Thanks for being so kind Mary. Here are 4 articles, I can give you many more if you like.
      
      http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/08/30/did-paul-ryans-republican-national-convention-speech-deliver
      
      http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/in-ryan-critique-of-obama-omissions-help-make-the-case/
      
      http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/106730/ryan-most-dishonest-convention-speech-five-lies-gm-medicare-deficit-medicaid
      
      http://factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/
      - Mary Wood
        
        This project turns out to be easier than I thought, Dave: first: the USA piece is the usual liberal fare and therefore inconsequential; second, the NYT has been a mouth piece for the failed presidency from its inception and therefore inconsequential; third, The New Republic DaveS!!??? Please. If ever there was a radical publication to set in motion the demise of our country, that’s it…, it is the piper piping the lemmings off the cliff into the sea; four: fact check organization is under investigation, but I have heard that fact check has not passed fact-checking themselves; I am checking this.
        What I know: The truth of the demise of the Democrat Party goes way back but the recent history to be confirmed is our former first "lady" Hillary Clinton and the part she played in the introduction of modern "progressivism" into the Democrat party to the extent to which it became essentially unrecognizable to the historical Democrats. During Bill Clinton's years there was still a semblance of separation of powers and workings of the government to the advantage of the people. In case you don't recall, Bill Clinton had a Republican congress. Transitions occurred then that put in place the terror the world would face as the housing bubble sent in place then, began to burst, and was in an incubation period during the entire Bush43 years to culminate in what :"Barack Obama Inherited" … yes it all goes back to Hil and Bill, and not even Bill saw it then, but Hil did. And Hil invested Obama, Oh, you don't know that story? You mean the mainstream media whom you love so well did not tell you that one??? Shame on them, That was the end of the United Sates as we knew it. We next had Bush who acted like the Republic was still viable… and he was razed for causing it all. And if you will check out the blogs of the sites you gave me above you will see the same lousy attempts to brush off the blame on Bush 43. No DaveS. GET THIS: Every president inherits something from a previous presidency, usually it is cast in an American mold, as in the foundations of the country are intact. That is not what Bush inherited from Hil and Bil. They set in place the demise of the country, granted Bill was unwittingly involved, he was so busy trying to take care of his naturalistic needs and Hil, the first "lady". knew it. So by omission more than anything else Bill is to blame as much as the first "lady." the result was BHO with GWB43 the perfect sitting duck. And none of this was vetted by USA Today, the New York Times, The New Republic or the Fact Check organization you sent to me.
        ROMNEY & RYAN 2012-2020
      - Mary Wood
        
        Hi Daves: I am sorry to disappoint you, but I do hope the correction was what you needed to hear. Please ask me if you have any questions. thank you for your comment.
  - http://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.dixon.509 Jeffrey Dixon
    
    Last night, Paul Ryan hammered Barack Obama for essentially pledging to Wisconsin citizens that he would do something to save a General Motors Assembly Plant in Ryan’s hometown of Janesville. Obama suggested that with the right government policies, the plant could be saved. Media “Fact-Checkers” are all over Ryan for the remark, claiming the plant actually closed BEFORE Obama took office. But, as the Washington Examiner proves, that is not the case. It did not close until several months AFTER Obama took office. He did nothing to keep the plant open, as he had suggested he would do:
    WASHINGTON EXAMINER – Conn Carroll: . . .The Washington Post, and a host of other liberal media outlets, are calling this passage “misleading” because the Janesville plant “closed before the president was inaugurated.” The Post is dead wrong. Here are the facts:1. On February 13, 2008 Obama said in Janesville : “I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.”2. In June 2008 GM announced that the Janesville plant would stop production of medium-duty trucks by the end of 2009, and stop production of large SUVs in 2010 or sooner.3. In October 2008 Obama doubled down on his promise to keep Janesville plant open: “As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America.”4. In December 2008 GM idled production of GM SUVs at the Janesville plant. Medium-duty truck assembly continued.5. In April 2009, four months after Obama was inaugurated, GM idled production of medium-duty trucks.6. In September 2011, more than two years after Obama was inaugurated, GM reiteratesthat Janesville plant is on “stand by status.” Auto industry observer David Cole, tells theMilwaukee Journal-Sentinel it would be premature to say the Janesville plant will never reopen.7. Today the GM facility in Janesville still has not been retooled “so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs,” as Obama promised. . . . Read More
    http://beforeitsnews.com/tea-party/2012/08/paul-ryan-is-right-janesville-gm-plant-did-not-close-down-before-barack-obama-became-president-video-4212009-2451902.html
    - Mary Wood
      
      Thanks for the link, Jeff.
    - daves
      
      It’s true that the plant didn’t last another year, as Ryan said. In fact, the Business Journal in Milwaukee wrote that the assembly plant shut down on Dec. 23, 2008, at the tail end of the Bush administration, a victim of the financial crisis and
      dwindling demand for the SUVs produced at the plant. That’s nearly one
      month before Obama was sworn into office.
      
      About 100 workers were kept on in 2009 to finish a truck order and help shut down the plant, according to the Associated Press.
      - Jeff Dixon
        
        You are missing the main issue. Yes, the plant was in the process of being shut down. However, it was NOT shut down before Obama took office. He also said he wanted to re-tool it “so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs,” as Obama promised. That was going to be part of the stimulus program. However, he did not do it. It finally stopped all production during the Obama term.
      - daves
        
        I thought the point Mr. Ryan was making is that President Obama is responsible for the plant closing.
- Evermyrtle
  
  In my opinion, he is the lesser of two evils and even my family do not agree. but I have looked at his decisions of the past. I could be judging unfairly and will change if GOD leads me to do so. I talk to HIM about that every day
  - Mary Wood
    
    Wonderful, Myrtle.
mallen11

What really matters is that We the People turn back to God and keep in touch with Him through the study of His Word or it won't matter who is elected.

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by MY name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD,"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength, and whose heart turns away from the LORD
- Mary Wood
  
  James 1:5
  Moroni 10:4
  - mallen11
    
    One can ask for wisdom all they want to but if they are not believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and in fellowship with Him through the filling of the Holy Spirit they will learn nothing and will not be able to apply the Word of God to their lives. It will all be gnosis; not epignosis. Academic knowledge; not spiriual knowledge.
    
    Heb 4:12 -For the word of God is alive and powerful sharper than any two-edged
    sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
    
    2 Peter 1:20-21 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy (Biblical knowledge) was ever made by an act of human will (design, purpose), but men were carried along by the Holy Spirit who spoke from God.
    
    John 4:24 God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit (in fellowship) and truth (using the knowledge of his Word.)
    - Mary Wood
      
      Quote scripture until the cows come home Ms Allen. It is not proof that you are a follower of Christ, as you are always implying that others are not. Get off your assumed high horse and face reality and reason as exemplified by CHRIST, even if he may be a mythological figure. .
      - mallen11
        
        The Word of God is what we as Christians live by so why not quote it? You seem to be a follower of Satan from the tone and words of your comments. I should know better than to respond to those in the mormon cult so from now on I will not since it would be a waste of my time. The only concern I have for you is that you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior; He died on the cross for you too.
        
        I Cor 1:18-21 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, “I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE.” Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
      - Mary Wood
        
        You are a Cult Goddess Ms Allen, not I.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        I do believe Mary, that normally you are above throwing slurs in the name of GOD'S word. Don't allow people who are not dedicated to GOD and HIS WORD, as a whole to get under your skin, it is far better to ignore them. Your are correct, knowing scriptures and living them are entirely two different things.
        Remember Satan knows the scriptures very well and can quote them, too.
        
        I'm sure that you already realize that talking the talk is not enough, that is the easy part. The hard part comes with walking the walk.
      - Mary Wood
        
        Myrtle, you point is well taken. Read carefully the one comment to which I respond.
      - Dave
        
        MAry I agree with evermyrtle also will add your judging and looking in past comments you claim and condemn other of doing the same. SSOOO you do a great talk but I ask are you doing the walk?
      - Mary Wood
        
        The three of you, THE TRINITY: EVERMYRTLE, MELLEN11, DAVE are hypocrites and here is the evidence. From the so-called Christians MELLEN11: "You seem to be a follower of Satan from the tone and words of your comments. I should know better than to respond to those in the mormon cult so from now on I will not since it would be a waste of my time"
        
        Don't you read, Dave? Really, I don't care whose sIde you take. I WILL DEFEND THE MORMONS WHO ARE BETTER CHRISTIANS THEN ANY OF YOU. YOU POOR THINGS..
      - Mary Wood
        
        SINCE YOU DID NOT READ IT, HERE IT IS:
        From the so-called Christians MALLEN11: "You seem to be a follower of Satan from the tone and words of your comments. I should know better than to respond to those in the mormon cult so from now on I will not since it would be a waste of my time"
        
        I WILL DEFEND THE MORMONS WHO ARE BETTER CHRISTIANS THEN ANY OF YOU. YOU POOR THINGS..
      - Mary Wood
        
        From the so-called Christians MALLEN11: "You seem to be a follower of Satan from the tone and words of your comments. I should know better than to respond to those in the mormon cult so from now on I will not since it would be a waste of my time"
        
        I WILL DEFEND THE MORMONS WHO ARE BETTER CHRISTIANS THEN ANY OF YOU. YOU POOR THING.
    - Mary Wood
      
      Mr. mallen11: you are the unbeliever not I
- Evermyrtle
  
  To do that we must accept HIS WORD in the whole. He will not allow us to consider any of it out of date and not fit for present use. Rev, 22:18-19.
- Mary Wood
  
  mallen11: It matters who is elected. It will be the good man, Mitt Romney, the man who is born and bred Mormon, the man who follows the BofM, is the man who will get you out the big hole you dug for us when you elected Barack Obama with your bigotry.
sharon

Mary: My concern is the approach of platform to the issues of the day, again we find men starting points that are not accurate to God's approach in enabling solutions. if we as christian desire a true resolved we must first begin on the Lord's foundation let me say this from scripture Psalms 127:1 Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. We as christian realize thru scripture there's only one door with which to enter gives us right standing with God that prespective in which all man's ways of doing life, forming opinions and making decisions can't and will not be successful unless they concede to that which is laid out thru scripture, so the compromise is there's no other way but first the Lord's foundation and build on that. I find it ironic the theme we built it. well people let's build it on a firm foundation so God can bless it!!!
- Mary Wood
  
  There is no way you can know any of this is happening lest you look at the leaders and see what decisions they make with respect to the things you hold dear. It seems to me the evangelicals like yourself want blatant references to scripture for every little thing that happens, every little decision made. I don't think that is necessary or wise! I believe as the Founders did that we can have a judicious system without constant references to Providence, as further exemplified by the very reason for the Revolutionary War of 1776 (actually 1775) and the demeanor of the entire colonies to rid us of the God-driven King of England. We don't want genocide, do we Sharon, or do you? I unequivocally state: I don't!!!
  - Mary Wood
    
    "the evangelicals like yourself want blatant references to scripture for every little thing that happens" or any big thing that happens… GUESS WHAT: You will neither get that from Mitt Romney nor Paul Ryan.
    - Evermyrtle
      
      Every step of our lives should be considered to be GODLY or not. If we ignore HIM when we make decisions, how on earth do we expect HIM to bless that decision, no matter how small. That is my motto, talk to JESUS before you decide.
      - Mary Wood
        
        I know lots of Godly people who never quote scripture all day long. I think the most Godly people I know do not quote scripture at every turn.
      - Evermyrtle
        
        If you are truly a Christian you will never quote scriptures to show off how many you know. GOD would not be pleased for you to use HIS WORD in such a sinful way. Satan knows them all and does not mind quoting them when it suits his purpose. A Christian does not hesitate to quote one, either, if there is a reason for it.
      - Mary Wood
        
        For it is sacred, not secret.
      - Dave
        
        Again Mary WOW!!
        It seem your heart is in a good place but here the problem I see from you and Iam NOT judging . You think everything has to be nice and pretty to be a great place, but in a reall world it is NOT and God does use it for the better!!
        Our God is a loving God and a awesome Abba Daddy!! Also He takes evil and use it for Good, To educate us,also show us his grace.
        So again Mary look,listen, research you may learn something,
  - Evermyrtle
    
    We must build on the foundation of GOD or we will surely fail. America has not been doing that for quite a while and is continually losing her good Christian qualities. Just take a look at the ant-GOD laws we have accepted in the last four years. People have been arrested in their own homes for holding services in JESUS name. What ever it takes to live for GOD and HIS SON I am all for it. IF WE REGAIN, what we have lost as Christians, that will cause pain, we can depend on that. It remains to be seen what road we will take, but we can depend on GOD, always.
SHARON

Mary: That's the bottom line if we don't base and build foundation on scripture we lose!! everyone puts their faith in something or someone, God never changes neither should we when we agree with Him. We really shouldn't care about anyone's opinion but I promise you this you'd better care about HIS!!!
- Evermyrtle
  
  Amen and Amen!!!
tigger2

Congressman Ryan Reminds Me of Robert Kennedy who in my opinion if he had lived to make President would have been one of the greatest presidents ever,
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1668431048 Tim Lucas

A fairly small town in Wisconsin is so fortunate to have such a bright young man to represent them. My first impression of Paul Ryan was that of honesty and someone with a hard work ethic. It is a far cry from a Joe Biden. Not even in the same class as a Paul Ryan. This young man will go all the way. I may not be here to see it but I surely will depart knowing America is in good hands and caring hands. I have no doubt that these two men care deeply for this country and will reduce this government to that which represents the people. Politicians have had their way with us for decades.
Washington22

The above article is excellent, for a change. Many times I sure don't agree with the writer. Paul Ryan impressed me in the same way. I, too, had never heard him speak and found him to be amazing. God bless our team, Romney/Ryan. Pray and vote!