Liberal Scholars Push Shotgun Wedding for Jesus

That the media and public at large know nothing about history in general and even less about biblical history in particular is proved yet again by a scholar’s claim of finding a piece of manuscript mentioning Jesus’ “wife.”

Harvard University history professor Karen King announced the fragment of a “gospel” in which Jesus is depicted as referring to “my wife,” Mary.

It’s far from the first time someone has suggested that Jesus had a wife. Usually the idea goes hand in hand with a theory about some sort of misogynistic conspiracy to hide Jesus’ alleged spouse from the world.

Most of these tales, or “gospels” as university professors like to tout them, are writings inspired by third or fourth century mystery cults that flourished in the Roman Empire.

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Old Observer

Satan is alive and well and continually trying to find ways to destroy the Christian faith. he will not win.
- Michael G.
  
  Why would anybody disagree with your statement?
Ken

If Jesus had been married, I do believe that he would have mentioned it himself in the Gospels, or his followers would have. Agnostics have for years been trying to "prove" that Jesus was married to Mary Magdaline…
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams
  
  Jesus made arrangements for his mother from the cross. Would He not have done the same for a wife, if He had one?
- http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
  
  Even Jesus' first century critics did not say anything about Him being married. Surely that would have been a bone of contention they would have used in their criticisms of Him to 'disprove' His deity. So obviously the reason they did not make that accusation in the first century is that the numerous eyewitnesses of Jesus' life and ministry who were still alive would have immediately shot that idea down and the critics would have been subject to ridicule for such an outlandish accusation.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Patton/592034163 Andrew Patton
    
    And this from people who made a great deal of outlandish accusations like the claim that Christians were cannibals who had sex orgies. The fact that they made some very absurd accusations and this wasn't among them is proof they never considered it was possible.
Wordman

LIars and wierdos have been cooking up tales to confuse people about Jesus since He was alive. The Bible alone tells us the true story of Jesus and the wonderful gospel of salvation.
- Michael g.
  
  What I can't get around my thought are how can anyone disagree with your statement?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

Two points:
1. Harvard Divinity School – couldn't get much more liberal
2. A woman in a position the Bible forbids to women.
Need we say more?
- daves
  
  Do still believe that a wife is a good asset to her owner?
  - Michael G.
    
    If you'd said that to my wife she would have kicked your tail end up one side of the street and down the other.
    I would have stood back and watched…and smiled.
  - http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark
    
    We no longer practice slavery, daves. No one 'owns' another person legally, nor does the Bible suggest that a husband 'owns' his wife, so your question is simply a 'gotcha'. Kind of like, "When did you stop beating your wife?"
  - Michael G.
    
    I had a wife, and I didn't own her!
Evermyrtle

There hasnever been more lies told about JESUS than anybody else that has ever lived. I do not believe it is a fit subject for this site. I wonder what these people believe about JESUS BEING THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.Is it a Jewish site?
- daves
  
  First off, Professor King herself said that the parchment doesn't prove Jesus was married. Second, why shouldn't we know about this discovery? Third, why does it matter to you if Jesus was or was not married?
  - Michael G.
    
    Look at the reality of it. Would God marry one of his creation? I think not.
- Bar-Eliam
  
  Loads of lies about all the jesus'es that ran around calling themselves god. How can you stretch your imagination to believe that a so-called-person who is obviously mad and believes he is a god? Today, fortunately, this type is consigned to a mental institution. Loads of the gods can be found there as well as Napoleon, Nixon, Reagan etc.
  You people are just like the Romans and Greeks, Celtics etc., who had pantheons of gods for every occasion. You so-called religion is just a compilation of the ancient and mystery religions including the sun-gods and all the other kinds and conditions.
  Wake up and join the real world. Try to find a good mental health worker who can rid you of your delusions.
  - Michael G.
    
    And you are the only Perfect person who ever lived, huh?
    A 'good' mental health worker? That's a contradiction in terms. There ain't no such animal.
    If you want to see delusion, try looking in your own mirror.
    - Wordman
      
      So sharp, Michael. I too had absolutely once no regard for the mental health profession until my son had two severe mental breaks and was diagnosed with a severe mental illness. He was lovingly raised in a protected Christian environment and, by any measure, was "a good boy." Then in fairly short order he became severely depressed and wildly delusional He had two serious breaks, and after the second break we had to commit him to a mental hospital for two and a half months in order to get him proper care and also for his and others' safety. You just can't imagine till you see real mental illness up close and personal, and watch it destroy the mind of someone you know and love. The mental health profession like many others is a mess because of humanistic foolishness, but during that horrific period I was intensely thankful to meet kind, competent mental health workers who helped us bring our dear son back from the brink. Before all that I thought just like you, that mental illness was a invention of sinners to cover up the results of sinful choices. Often it is just that. But this experience humbled me to the core and radically transformed my paradigm. I'm here to tell anyone who'll listen that there really is such a thing as genuine mental illness. The ral thing is a terrible, terrible affliction that like many other diseases, has little or nothing to do with individual choices.
      - mallen11
        
        God allows us to go through tragedies in our lives to show how much grace He will give us to make it through them. You and your family have become stronger through it all and…
        
        II Cor 1:3-4 -Blessed be the God and Father of
        our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4who comforts
        us in our entire affliction so that we will be able to comfort
        those who are in any affliction with the comfort
        with which we ourselves are comforted by
        God.
      - Michael G.
        
        You have my sympathy for what you went through. I was talking from my own personal situation. I had a son (notice the past tense) who fought me, my wife, and his mother every step of the way. He was constantly in and out of trouble. But the mental health people who dealt with him were constantly blaming me and my wife for his problems. Since he didn't live with us I don't know how these mental health people (I hate to use the word professionals) could do and say the things they did.
        The problem was resolved five years ago. My son was hit by a car late at night and killed. Then his mother blamed my wife and myself for everything that happened. (All this took place in a state a long way from where I live).
        So you can see why I took the position that I did.
  - Wordman
    
    Please tell us how the existance of many counterfiets logically requires the non-existance of the genuine article. Scoffing and rageing are armchair sports. We hope someday you'll be up to some honest inquirey. If so, the Bible has a wonderful promise for you:
    Jer 29:13 ‘And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.
mallen11

Excuse me while I go vomit. How utterly ridiculous can so called educated people be?

Proverbs 17:4 An evildoer listens to wicked lips; A liar pays attention to a destructive tongue.
Wesley

i would suggest also reading the Christianity Today online article about this fragment. "Jesus' reference to "my wife" in the fragment comes amid a discussion of family with his disciples, according to King. He also refers to "Mary" and "my mother." The scholar did not rule out the possibility that Jesus was speaking metaphorically. Christian tradition, for example, calls the church "the bride of Christ."" it contains just 33 words in 14 incomplete lines. one line says "As for me, I dwell with her in order to…". this could be a letter written in code to a church in the region in order to help protect it if the letter falls into the wrong hands during one of the major waves of persecution. we have an example of that in I Peter where approximately last chapter and half Peter start writing in code since he was in Rome at the time Nero was burning it down and placing the blame on Christians. it would be neat to hear what the Vatican researcher would find out when they get to analyze it.
Steve03

What doctrine of what church would be overturned if Jesus were married? If our salvation rests on Jesus being the second Adam, and Adam was married, then . . .
- Michael G.
  
  It isn't 'doctrine' of any church (that I'm aware of–certainly not mine) whether Jesus was married or not. Somehow I just can't picture the Creator of all things, and people, married to one of them. That just doesn't compute…
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Patton/592034163 Andrew Patton
  
  The doctrine that says the Church is the Bride of Christ.
Bar-Eliam

Let us see here. jesus (one of the many running around at that time) claimed to be a rabbit…didn't he?
Well then Jewish law states a man must be married in order to be a practicing rabbit.
Funny this should come about during the period of Ros Hashanah and Yom Kippur!
Only an insane person would believe that anyone could be a mix of a god and a human.
Are all of you fools? How could you believe such idiocy? You read a bible that is so full of holes and contradictions and claim it is true. Your claims do no make it so. It is another religions collections such as the Vedas, Shamus, Quran, Torah etc. All a much ado about nothing. Anyone believing in this silliness belongs in a locked ward.
By the way Dr. King is a brilliant scholar from one of the three best seminaries in the US.
Fortunately they do not allow right wing religious nuts admitted. If by any chance they get in they are shortly thrown out on their rears.
No place for zealots in their really good schools.
- far2right
  
  Wow, thanks for the display of ignorance, and hate to boot.
  
  "Jewish law states a man must be married in order to be a practicing rabbit". Jesus opposed the rabbinical traditions, dum-dum. Besides, He never declared Himself a Rabbi.
  
  "one of the three best seminaries in the US". Glaring ignorance and laughable.
  
  But the coup de grace for you was, "bible that is so full of holes and contradictions".
  
  This is automatic to us for, "I haven't a clue what the bible's message is".
  
  Your are a manifest joke.
- Michael G.
  
  Did you notice that you said rabbit (twice) instead of rabbi.
  You say the Bible is contradictory and full of holes. I have one question to ask about that: Prove it!
  You won't be able to…
kamicka

Christ followers know that the "wife" is the Bride of Christ, not a physical woman. The disciples are those who follow Him. But at least this proves that Jesus was a real person who walked the earth and not a myth or fairytale that so many would have us to believe. God can take soemthing like this & turn it for good.
- Michael G.
  
  Remember the Scripture, Rom. 8 :28…"All things work together for good for those love God and are called according to His purpose…" That's the way God works.
  The thought came to me tonight that people who love God would stand up for Him, and take His side in matters of life. Those people who don't love God would remain silent…
Vladimir

What's the big deal? Why is it so important that the Savior not be married? I know the Catholics would have a cow, but why would it bother anyone else?
- Wordman
  
  My friend, you do not understand the theological implications. For just one thing, the Bible tells us that Jesus DOES have a bride, and she is His Church. Contrary to the blasphemous assertions of the LDS, God is not polygamous. Also, the Bible tells us that when a man and a women (the only allowable combination, BTW) are married, they become "one flesh." No earthly woman could be worthy. We could go on, but that's enough for now.
  - Vladimir
    
    You say there are theological implications, but you don't give any. If you take literally that the church is the bride of Jesus, you don't understand it is illustrating the connection between Jesus and His church. That's beyond ignorance, that's actually absurd.
    
    It must be your opinion that no woman could be worthy to be the wife of Savior. What exact qualifications must a woman meet to be married to the Savior? Where do you get this stuff? Obviously not the bible.
    
    And what about the prohibition on single males speaking in a synagogue. The Bible records the Savior speaking in a synagogue. We could go on, but that's enough for now.
    - Wordman
      
      Actually, I did offer two important theological implications. I did not say or imply that Jesus would be married to the church in the way that two humans are with physical intercourse and such. That WOULD be absurd. Nevertheless, Jesus will be, in a very real, albeit spiritual, way, married to the church. The "connection," as you say, comes with a reality.
      
      Jesus was the ONLY sinless human being to walk the planet. What woman could possibly be fit for union with Him? Where do you get the idea that Jesus was married or could be married to a human women? As you say, "Obviously not from the Bible."
      
      I'm afraid I don't know what you are speaking of regarding a prohibition of "single males speaking in a synagogue." Perhaps if you could give us chapter and verse.
      - Michael G.
        
        Jesus spoke in the Synagog; Scripture says so in Isiah. Perhaps it was the minimum age for a man to speak in the Synagog. At the completion of the reading Jesus gave the scroll back to the Scribe, and sat down. Then (it says) all eyes were fixed upon Him.
        I'd have to research this more, but I had not heard of single males being prohibited from speaking in the Synagog.
Michaell G.

Why call 'them,' "legal scholars?" I don't even consider them "Scholars."
Jesus married?? No. Never. Not then; not today; not anytime in the future." Since Jesus is God (the 2nd member of the Trinity), don't you think even if He wanted to get married He could create the absolute, perfect female that ever lived. What about dating? What would Jesus do if his perspective 'wife' wanted to date around for a time?
All this kind of stuff is just flat looney. I imagine Jesus is having a great laugh about this one…
- Michael G.
  
  I meant Liberal not legal. I don't have my contacts on, so I've got an excuse…