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Where President Romney Would Go to Church

Bishop Robert Nelson of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ in Chevy Chase, MD, isn’t exactly sure how to handle the casserole question. You see, the Mormon church is run by volunteers, and every member has a job: teaching Sunday school, managing church finances, organizing community food drives, or serving in the tutoring program. So when I asked Bishop Nelson who in his congregation would bring a casserole to Ann Romney if she were to get the flu while her husband was President of the United States, he paused and chuckled. “I can imagine wanting to bring the casserole, but then you have to go through security, and at some point you go, the casserole just isn’t worth it. Call for carry out.”

The casserole question is one of many puzzlers Mitt Romney’s presidential run poses for Nelson’s congregation on the northern border of the District of Columbia. Mormons attend church based on their addresses—and 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is assigned to Nelson’s parish, or ward. “When we get new members in from any walk of life and I sit down and talk with them: where are you at, what are your needs, how can this church help you, how can you help the church,” explains Nelson. “It is that same discussion—it’s just with somebody who is the President of the free world, so I am sure there are nuances that will be unique.”

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  • mwood13

    i do not care what his religion is as long as it is not islam murder religion

    • Constance

      Mwood, I agree with you 100%.+Flag as inappropriatei do not care what his religion is as long as it is not islam murder religion

    • Devasahayam

      Given that we've been misruled by an anti-American syncretist of two forms of idolatry (Islam, of which adherents face the plinth of an idol–from which they removed the statue, a fact they spin much–five times daily and "Hinduism" by installing a 33-lb brass Hanuman statue gifted to him in a shrine in WH), I much prefer a Mormon–their constructive contributions in less than 200 years exceed those of Muslims (hello, all "contributions" by the goonda-cult have been DEstructive–including killing 10 million plus of their own adherents just since 1945) in 1442!

      • Michael G.

        The 1442 is the Muslim calendar date, I presume?

      • carly lurl

        You have created great lies from your diseased mind. President Obama is NOT in any way a Muslim. He may have attended a Muslim school in Indonesia for 10 months but that is all. Try and find a non-muslim school in the area.
        When in the states he attended only upscale schools which were attended by all type of children with all kinds of belief systems. Just as we find in public schools today.
        Have you never had the experience of attending school in another country? Ask some military families whose children have attended schools all over the world and of all kinds.
        There is nothing wrong and everything good in expanding ones mind learning the ways of others.
        By the way Islam has contributed more than any other Religion/way of life etc. to science,
        architecture, mathematics, music etc. Check it out you will find you have been spoon fed lies that are at best implausible and at worse utter nonsense.

        • Vladimir

          Wrong, carly lurl. Islam has done nothing for the betterment of the human race. Islam's only goal is the subjugation of the entire race under its boot.

          Individual Muslims have been able to do good in spite of Islam, but they are few. The fruits of Islam are poverty, violent death, destruction of individual rights and forced allegiance to Satan.

          You, carly lufl, are so misinformed as to be an embarrassment to this site.

          • Evermyrtle

            Do you think that everyone on earth or has ever lived was a spirit in pre-existance? I want to be sure before I accept this as a Mormon belief!!

          • Evermyrtle

            Do you believe that my SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST visited America, I mean in HIS lifetime on earth or just after HE arose?? Again I do not want to believe any false thing.

          • Evermyrtle

            Oh another thing, do you believe the JESUS CHRIST, GOD AND THE HOLY GHOST FORM THE TRINITY. I want to get this all sorted out before I make a mistake in quoting.

        • petroskhan

          You like islam so much, move to a country where it hold sway. I'm sure many people will you with the air fare; I know I would.

          Islam is a barbaric and pathetic excuse for a religion. It's a socio-political movement which lowers society to its most brutal elements, and actually encourages barbarism, murder, rape and pedophilia.

          For every contribution you could name by a muslim, 10 could be named by NON-muslims.

        • jamrpb

          Your just trying to defend the Kenyan born, Indonesian reared (his words) Muslim narcissist. His actions(or inactions) speak louder than his words.

    • Michael G.

      I have to agree with your statement. My best friend is Mormon and he he is the best guy I've ever met. The only thing I disagreed with him about was joining his church. I graciously declined. I was in thee process of joining the Catholic Church. We will always remain friends. He told me that Obama is the most dangerous person who has ever been president, and we must rid ourselves of him, and all those around him.

      • carly lurl

        And we must not allow the US to be taken over by a pseudo religion such as mormonism.
        This group was founded by a con man and a criminal. He was run out of one town after the other for his scams and cons. Check out the real history of this cult.

        • Esther

          To say nothing of letting an unknown person of entire questionable background… right, Carl Lurly? I have checked out the cons and scams of President "Obama"

          • carly lurl

            Good for you! You need to try and learn more about this superb man and what he has done for this miserable country.

          • petroskhan

            Okay, Einstein, enlighten us…what has Obama done for this country?

            Aside from raising the level of unemployment, increasing the national debt, raising the number of people on foodstamps, etc…what else has he done?

            You do know that you are coming across as a complete fool, right?

          • Pastor Dwayne

            In other words Nobama and his muslim people want to not only destroy God's chosen Israel, but also destroy U S A,,,,,,, Lets print more money

    • carly lurl

      Islam is not a religion of murder! Do you think xianity is a religion of murder? Think of all those killed by xians during the crusades, the murder of thousands by Torquemada in the Inquisition,
      the burning, hanging and drownings carried out by the puritans? Is this murder okay?
      How about Bush/Cheney's murderous actions towards thousands of Muslims who were innocents? They claim their motives were pure and of god.
      Depends upon whose Ox is being gored or whose Witch is being murdered.

      • Esther

        I think he meant as long as his [the president's] religion is not the islam murder religion, i.e. he is saying that Islam IS a religion of murder …

        • carly lurl

          Certainly no more than xians and the cults such as Scientology, moronisim,
          SDA's and the rest of their ilk. But then, those groups really are not a part of real Christianity.

      • Evermyrtle

        They kill their own if the do not walk the path that is laid out for them by the Communists leaders. Would you not call this murder?? Bush/Chaney has nothing to do with the last four years or the next four years. Why do people continue to whine about what they did or did not do.That is in the past and nothing can be done about it. We need to look forward to what will come next, and ACT!!.

        • carly lurl

          Muslims do not kill their own laid out for them by communists.
          They are not now nor have they ever been communists.
          You don't get the big picture america is a bullying, oppressive nation that wants to invade every other country to take its natural resources and keep their people in poverty and servitude.
          You can't be such a dunce as to think bush and cheney and nothing to do with the last 4 years. It has everything to do with the reactions of the Middle-East to the murders carried out by the murderous duo and their sidekick rumsfeld.

          • Vladimir

            Carly lurl, your posts are devoid of facts, thought and any shred of reason. You come across as an America hating, marxist, socialist. Your talking points are right out of the CPA's play book.

      • petroskhan

        Islam is not a religion of murder? You're joking, right? Look at the violence going over there in that part of the world over a stupid YouTube video! Bunch of backwards barbarians, attacking and killing people, while claiming their religion is one of peace.

        The koran itself preaches and encourages murder, just that child-molesting desert bandit Mohammed did. He was a pig, and anyone who follows his insane babblings is an ignorant fool, walking is Satans footsteps.

    • Evermyrtle

      If He is going to be president of the USA it makes a great difference to me. If He is not a Christian makes all the difference in whether or not we can expect GOD'S blessings. Without GOD'S blessings, WE WILL NOT REMAIN, a free country. Look what has happened to us in the last four years to get a glimpse of the next four years of the same, without a Christina president. Romney is he a Christian, really a Christian??Lookk at the other possibility!!

  • Gordon

    I'm not much concerned with where Romney will "go to church", but rather how much he will be present to the real job of being president!

    • http://twitter.com/jude83268949 jude

      Anytime at all would beat what we have temporary in office now

    • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

      Our current President goes to the golf course far more than he ever goes to church. In fact, he probably spends more time on the links than the Oval Office. The liberal media used to chide Bush for playing golf, but Obama has played more in 4 years than Bush did in 8 years. And they are 'strangely' silent now…

      • carly lurl

        Really? Do you follow him around. He and his family attend church at the Washington Cathedral quite regularly. He is also a very good friend of the Dean of the Cathedral who has just recently retired.
        He also attends another church nearby. No photogs are allowed to take pictures or harass them.

        • Esther

          Of course he had to remake his image from the real one of 29 years in Rev Wright's (was it?) church in Chicago??? Alinsky taught that in Rules for Radicals also… remaking your image that is?

          • carly lurl

            You seem so confused. Contact us privately and we can help you get over your mental block to the real truth. You can then expect to live a life free of rules and regulation enforced upon you by these radical religions which you must obviously follow.

          • Vladimir

            The confused one here is carly lurl. True religions are against force, even being forced to do right. Saul Alinsky's first rule is the acquisition of POWER by whatever means available. Once Alinsky's radicals have the power then they will FORCE the population to do their will.

        • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

          Obama’s 60th Outing as President
          "This is the president’s 60th time golfing as president, meaning Obama has spent two months of his presidency on the golf course.

          The rounds usually take about five hours, including motorcading back an forth to the course.

          According to statistics compiled by CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller, who keeps close tabs on the president’s activities, Obama played 30 rounds in 2010, 28 rounds in 2009, and two this year, including today.

          (March 2011) http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/03/05/golf-2/

          (10/25/09)
          "President Barack Obama has only been in office for just over nine months, but he's already hit the links as much as President Bush did in over two years.
          CBS' Mark Knoller — an unofficial documentarian and statistician of all things White House-related — wrote on his Twitter feed that, "Today – Obama ties Pres. Bush in the number of rounds of golf played in office: 24.
          Took Bush 2 yrs & 10 months."
          http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0910/obama_ties_bush_on_golf.html

          "President Barack Obama is playing too much golf. He’s entitled to take a break once in a while, but he golfs so often that he no longer does the job he was elected to do. When there is a crisis, or a decision to make, he is almost never at work–he is on the links instead.

          Here is a partial list of the things President Obama has missed to play golf:

          As oil spill spreads and approaches Louisiana coast, President plays golf (5/22/2010)
          Skips visit to Polish Embassy in memory of Polish president; “Fore!” (4/18/2010)
          Plays golf instead of dealing with attempted Christmas Day bombing (12/25/2009)
          Delays decision on Afghanistan troop surge as casualties rise; plays golf (10/25/2009)
          Skips bipartisan negotiations over health care reform to play golf (9/1/2009)
          Plays golf in Massachusetts, fails to visit dying Sen. Ted Kennedy (8/23/2009)
          Misses Israeli Prime Minister’s historic speech offering a two-state solution (6/14/2009)
          Fails to stand up for Iranian democracy demonstrators, plays golf instead (6/14/2009)
          Plays golf as swine flu spreads; no CDC head or Surgeon-General yet (4/26/2009)
          President-elect Obama plays golf during Gaza War, refuses to comment (12/30/2008)"
          http://stopplayinggolf.com/

    • Michael G.

      In the 'real' world if Obama would have missed two meetings in a row without a good reason for doing so, he would have been fired. That's what we must do next month. Besides, we have more pressing reasons for that Dismissal!

      • carly lurl

        What would those reasons be other than your hate for a man of color and one who far more educated than yourself. You will never be able to attain his greatness. Guess god knew where to place those dolts who are so bigoted.

        • Esther

          Hey hey now Curly, who said anything about color… Michael is talking about COMPETENCE … see the difference? You really know better than that tsk tsk that is a reduction unbecoming of a purported educated person like yourself. So Alinsky was your teacher?

          • carly lurl

            How stupid can you get. Previously posted was a list of those of us who have followed in his path through those he taught his philosophy. It is freely taught at the University of Chicago and Cornell University!
            You might even gain entrance to the classes if you could pass the oral and written exams. Sorry there is NO auditing. Several classes are available at UCLA as well.

        • Vladimir

          Play the race card, carly lurl. We need more of that. What's a good conversation without some dude playing the race card.

    • carly lurl

      Nothing! He is a stumbling, bumbling empty suit. In that suit you will find his MagiKal Underwear! These people are first class nuts.

      • Esther

        Oh you are an Alinskyite, I see now… this must be the training mantra specific for Mitt as it has been used exactly as you have stated it; just out of class are you? Did the lame stream media attend? Your attacks, they are getting rather mundane, lurl. How are Bar-eliam, listra etc., haven't seen them in awhile/ They have prepared us for these kinds of visits to The Forum.

        • carly lurl

          That is for us to know and you just wonder about. Don't worry your empty little head about anything political or economic it is beyond your ken.
          Sorry Dr. Alinsky has been dead for sometime now but we do have the joy of sharing those great lessons for those who will listen and when taught by his original students.
          Both are marvelous.

          • petroskhan

            You're an idiot. There is no other word for it. Sorry.

            Alinsky was a fool, and anyone who follows his nonsensical garbage needs his head pulled out from between his cheeks.

            But carry on. You're providing great entertainment.

      • Evermyrtle

        He sure made a great hit for the Democrats last night didn't he???

    • Evermyrtle

      And whether GOD will bless our country, because the president is a true Christian.We cannot do it without GOD'S blessings, whoever may be the president. All true Christians has a grip on this problem and know that the first requirement is a Christian at the head of our country. We won't give up and go along!!!

  • Schawminator

    How refreshing if only Obama had ta conversation with his church leader asking, "where are you at, what are your needs, how can this church help you, and how can you help the church,” man would we love to hear those answers and see them in print and then only to follow up to find if they had been delivered on.

    • Michael G.

      The question would be a good one, except I think Obama would questioning the mosque where he was.

    • carly lurl

      He certainly would not have been asked such questions by the Dean of the Washington Cathedral! This isn't a religious contest afterall.
      Episcopalian have propriety after-all.
      Besides, they do have the best music of all churches.

      • Esther

        It would have been out-of-place to call such attention to oneself under the circumstances of making an alias for oneself because Alinsky would have recommend he just blend in with the believers and everything would be made all right, so he could proceed with the radical agenda unknowingly within the religious cover of the well accepted Washington Cathedral, the perfect disguise for the radical "Obama" … no doubt, would be approved by his master Alinsky.

        • carly lurl

          Unfortunately he was not able to reach the pinnacle of what would be the greatest success of all time and that would have been to be Dr. Alinsky's private student.
          Unfortunately it was the wrong time and climate.
          Dr. Alinsky is truly a genius and a true teacher. Just ask Dr. Ayers.

          • Vladimir

            You blew it, carly lurl. The vast majority of posters on this site are familiar with the likes of Saul Alinsky and Bill Ayers. You have exposed yourself as a progressive troll. Now all of your comments are in context.

  • Bighoss

    Perhaps he will beg off going to church altogether by offering the lame excuse Ronald Reagan did when he was president, namely that his presence in church would cause too much commotion. Reagan could have assembled a small gathering of people in the White House to observe Sunday worship, but chose not to, so his excuse doesn't hold water–holy or otherwise.

    • Michael G.

      Leave Reagan out of this. He can no longer defend whatever he did or didn't do. Besides, are you Mormon? Or are you a Christian? You're really not in a position to criticize Reagan in religious matters. You need to check your 'hatred' cards at the doorstep.

      • Allen

        Well stated, are you a Mormon ? Or are you a Christian ?

        • Vladimir

          The Prophet Mormon was a Christian. People referred to as Mormons covenant to take upon themselves the name of Jesus Christ, to always remember Him and to keep His commandments. Those that do are true Christians. Most do, most are true Christians.

          • petroskhan

            That is not exactly beyond debate. And if true, the question remains then, why is it that the mainstream of Christianity does NOT consider LDS's to be Christian?

          • Vladimir

            An apparently cynical answer as to why "mainstream Christianity" does not consider LDS christian is money. Some say that a lot of livelihoods are financed by preaching and LDS is a threat to these livelihoods because it siphons off contributors.

          • petroskhan

            Don't take this the wrong way, Vlad, but I wasn't really looking to discuss the matter. I was only pointing something out.

            It has been made very clear to me that LDS's are unwilling or unable to answer questions regarding, or discuss, their faith. No problem. Your doctrine/stance/predisposition of responding to such with hostility, insults and misdirection is a matter of record, and has been made very clear.

            No hard feelings on my part, just to be clear. I'm okay with it. But, like I said, I was only pointing something out, not actually asking you anything. Don't want you to get offended by me questioning you.

            But thanks for your reply all the same. God Bless.

          • Vladimir

            A helpful web site for people who think Mormons don't answer questions regarding our faith is http://www.mormon.org. Folks honestly interested in what we believe should start there.

          • petroskhan

            Yeah, been there, done that.

            And, you might recall, my questions were more of a sort that isn't explored there. They are of a deeper nature, I suppose, would be one way of putting it.

            Anyway, I'm going to drop it, since this conversation didn't elicit any responses last time, and I don't feel the need to have you and Esther getting upset, defensive and/or insulting again.

            Have a great day, and thanks for the reply.

          • Esther

            Did I hear my name? You know had I not seen Vlad's name in the side-bar I would never have come to see what this is all about. Petroskhan, you know I have run into many of your posts that are completely civil, until I come to one about "Mormons" or more correctly stated, about Saints or the LDS, I prefer Saints (for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), (LESSON NO. 1, You want to know about us, get a few basic definitions straight, Please!) I don't see the name Mormon in there. Mormon was a prophet. He collated the Book of Mormon. So, okay, it is one of our miracles that the Book of Mormon exists.

            We get it that you think we are a "cult." Or you "know" we are a "cult."
            I will ask again, the question I asked when I first wandered into The Forum out of curiosity, to the effect: Has any religion ever been started under any circumstances other than as "revealed," this means revealed from God, revealed by a miracle?

            Petroskhan, I have asked that question many times in many ways, sometimes only implied. Now you reprimand Vlad for refusing to answer basic questions about the doctrine of the Saints. Will you please tell me why any Saint would answer any question from a Christian of your persuasion, without some feeling of distrust that it would be respected? There in NO reason to believe that it would be, and every reason to believe that it would be treated like piece of trash.

            Really for these reasons, I have begun to think of those who would decry us as all the things you know we have been called, as "pseudo-Christians", besides which Jeff has even noticed, the "Christians" are supposed to treat people in a Christ-like way and have not done so. You know we can also take to calling your religion "cult" as well. You do not accept our definitions, why should we accept yours, especially since so much of the Christian church depends upon Roman Catholicism? And you know what Luther saw in Rome? Get the DVD lectures from ligonier.org on Luther and the Reformation. They were the people interpreting scripture, much of which has never been changed in Protestant sects!

          • petroskhan

            First off, I would like, before labeling LDS's as a "cult", to agree upon a definition of a cult.

            I would propose the following, as it is from Merriam-Webster:
            cult – noun, often attributive
            Definition of CULT
            1 : formal religious veneration : worship

            2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents

            3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents

            4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator "health cults"

            5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
            b : the object of such devotion
            c : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion

            Now, as I see it, if we can agree upon the above as a definition, Mormons/LDS's/"Saints" do fit this description. However, so would Catholics, Protestants, Lutherans, and any other denomination. Why? Look at the first two definitions. "Formal religious veneration : worship" and "a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents". Most religions, applying these definitions, would qualify.

            Also, looking down to definition 5 "a great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement or work (as a film or a book)" would also qualify most religions in this regard.

            However, one could try to argue that "cult" is a term reserved for fringe groups, considered unorthodox or in some way "crazy" or something…that definition isn't there, as far as I can tell. So, if you're a cult member, then so am I, because I have a set of beliefs, venerate the Bible, etc. So is any religious person, I guess.

            BUT…in that insulting way that most people use it, no I don't think Mormonism (LDS's, Saints…your choice) are a "cult".

            Now, you asked the question "Has any religion ever been started under any circumstances other than as "revealed," this means revealed from God, revealed by a miracle?" You seem to be saying that you've asked this question of me, and not gotten an answer. If so, and I have NOT answered you, I am sorry for that oversight. I do try to answer every question people put to me, for I feel that such is our duty and responsibility. So…my answer is "Yes". There have been religions started that have NOT come from God. Take the Koran, for an example. So much hatred, violence, murder, child-molesting, assassination, subjugation of women…no way did that come from God. At least, not any God I (or any sane person) would worship. As for the Book of Mormon, I have very serious doubts regarding its origins, and have many questions regarding its authenticity. I will, through other channels, attempt to find answers to my questions. I am NOT attempting to discuss them here; please understand that, as well as the fact that I do NOT wish to cause you any negative feelings on this matter. Enough bad feelings were generated last time, and I wish for us all to get along as well as possible. I do hope that answers your question. I never intended to avoid it, nor to give the impression that I was doing so. If you have any other questions regarding my beliefs, feel free to ask them. I will do my best to answer them, with any and all information I have.

            And as for my "reprimand"…I sincerely hope that Vlad didn't take it that way, nor would I like for you to do so. I simply stated that I didn't want him to feel that I was attempting to force a discussion, since none of my questions in the past were answered, and seemed only to elicit hostility, avoidance, and bad feelings. As a Christian, I simply do not want to instigate such, and seek to avoid it. No reprimand was intended, and if you read my post again (please?), you will note that I did state that there were no hard feelings, and I was NOT attempting to initiate a repeat of the last exchange.

            "Will you please tell me why any Saint would answer any question from a Christian of your persuasion, without some feeling of distrust that it would be respected?" No, I really can't tell you that, since I don't have any insight into the thoughts of others. What each person thinks and feels is his own business, and I have no control over that. From my own perspective, however, putting myself in a similar situation, I can state that it is, according to the Bible, our duty to answer questions concerning our faith. It doesn't say that we should only answer those who agree with us, or those whose beliefs match ours. It simply states that we should be prepared to defend our faith, and the reasons for it. For this reason I, personally, try to answer the questions of others. What motivates others, and what they are motivated to do, is up to them.

            And many people have noted that those who claim to be Christians fail to act in accordance with the Scriptures. What would be the evaluation of such people, objectively? That they are not, in fact, Christians. I can call myself Superman, but I doubt it will help me fly or cause bullets to bounce off my chest. A lot of the most bigoted hateful talk I have seen comes from those who call themselves Christians, yet it is easy to see the spirit of Christ is not in them. I'm pretty sure there is a verse or two somewhere about that, right?

            As for religions borrowing from Roman Catholicism, that is one of the many reasons that I do not belong to any organized church. I find them all to be lacking, and therefore, as I stated before, I have left that behind; I and a few like-minded people hold our own Bible study each week, right here in my house. We study the Bible, discuss issues and topics that we choose, and generally get a lot more out a single meeting than most of us ever got from six months of listening to a sermon. Questions are asked, discussed, and ideas exchanged, etc. Very productive, and very deep.

            So, that's what I've got right now. Hope I didn't go on for too long, and bore the bleep out of you. Like I said, if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

            Have a great day.

          • Esther

            I will be back to answer this dissertation later. Meanwhile, thank you for your careful consideration of the Saints. I mean it when I say it is appreciated. Please have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoWRbNwClMs For starters, how can we explain this kind of reality in a zionica comment, so others will understand? The man you are hearing is a highly revered apostle. Also, I am learning why Jeff uses so much supportive reference. It is because there is limited support and downright disturbing lack of respect for us at times, though you are a gentleman most of the time. But, you see I don't see your bible as inerrant. Neither did Joseph Smith for whom my respect grows daily.

      • Evermyrtle

        Too bad, the dead can't fight back!!!

        • carly lurl

          Why? Are you afraid your husband, lover or S/O will come back and put you where you belong?

          • Esther

            You respond with little reference to the actual statements of others. Did you actually pass Alinsky's course?

          • carly lurl

            With flying colors just like my mothers classmate Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.
            Love and adore that woman and her splendid daughter.

          • petroskhan

            You're hilariously delusional, you know that? Please don't stop, I am getting SO much amusement from your nonsense. I am even going to show your irrelevant and nonsensical comments to some of my friends. You are splendidly amusing.

          • Vladimir

            Carly lurl has to be pulling our collective legs. Nobody is that wrong, that nonsensical, and that delusional so often except by design.

          • petroskhan

            That was a thought I had as well. Either way, I hope to see much more of his/her entertaining posts.

          • Esther

            He studied with Alinsky, what more can be said? lol

          • Evermyrtle

            JESUS CHRIST takes care of HIS own. I belong with HIM, where I will remain until HE calls me home. How about you are these the things that bother you??
            If it is you need to get right with HIM. He will accept you however lost you may be and clean you up, to be ready for HIS kingdom. You only have to accept HIM and HIS love.

          • carly lurl

            I don't need nor want your preaching. I am a member of one of the best churches around and as such don't want to hear your religious propaganda and nonsense.
            Take a hike!

          • Esther

            She is not a brainwashed Alinskyite, so doesn't take orders from you.

          • Allen

            And what in God's name might that church BE???????????

    • carly lurl

      That is just so very true. Is it not amazing how the minute one criticizes Reagan and they are not of the Tribe….a thorough pouncing upon ensues with the inevitable revelation that HE is no longer here to protect and defend himself.
      Yet they parade him around puppet style at every turn.
      If you want the real truth read the books by Ronald Reagan Jr. You will find old Ronnie did not walk on water and was and earlier edition of Prez. Clinton.

      • Esther

        LOL, curly, why am I not surprised you and Bighoss cohere. I guess you could say President Reagan is one of our giants upon which we rely for sustaining our conservative principles, kind of like you see Alinsky as your guiding light to carry you through to your goal of destruction of the U. S. Constitutional government, i.e., the same as we honor, you wish to destroy. Your plan is clear as a bright blue Utah sky from the top of the mountains. Bighoss has been prepping us for your efforts.

  • jimbo999

    I wonder where Harry Reid (who calls himself Mormon) attends services. If he had attended my church, he would have been excommunicated long ago for his stand on Abortion-on-demand, his constant lying, and basically for being a democrat. The rooster crowed at the democrat convention after they denied God three times, similar to what happened to Saint Peter, except Peter realized what he had done and repented, and went on to serve God. I haven't seen much repentance from the democrats, and their god, Barack Obama, is cheering their decision.

    • David J W Spooner

      Why hasn't anyone question? about Harry Ried, I realy wonder what LDS Ward/Stake would even cared if they attended!

      • Michael G.

        This too is a good question, and one I'll approach my friend with. I trust him. We've been friends for about 40 years.

        • Evermyrtle

          "Birds of a feather!!"

          • Allen

            Michael won't join the mormon church but instead a catholic church, when all mormonism is , is a HIGH order of the Roman catholic churc which has many of the falicies of the RCC.

      • carly lurl

        And what did you mean to say?

        • Esther

          Don't you know Harry Reid, the Mormon who worships at the feet of President "Obama" You really need to keep up, Curly.

    • Michael G.

      That's really interesting that you picked up on the 3 times denial (I wonder why I didn't pick up on that?).
      There is a great danger for anyone denying God [Christ Himself tells us the following: "If you deny Me before men, I will deny you before the Father..."]). That is a ver serious warning. I just wonder how many democrats are aware of it…

    • carly lurl

      You would have been very surprised at the recent Democratic Convention. There was a large contingent of Mormons in attendance as members at that convention.
      What a surprise!

      • Esther

        Political persuasion has nothing to do with religion for the Saints. some are just as apt to be swayed by Alinsky as anyone of any other religious or nonreligious group. Didn't Alinsky teach that? He couldn't have been so dense.

  • Esther

    I have attended that temple while in Washington DC to present my doctoral work to my national professional society. I was privileged to perform ordinances for members of my family. It has a visitors' center and the impeccably kept grounds are also open to the public.Of course one must have an official pass, called a temple recommend, to enter the temple itself, that one gets from the bishop and another member of the presidency of the region where one is a member. Temples are beautiful and peaceful places, as you would expect. The basic construction of them follows that in the bible. The ordinances that are done there are the very same in the smallest of temples.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/QHRUML5XFH7AMSWH63TQH7F7E4 MalikTous

    He could order from the 'Gods Big Fix' (LDS church) here in Richmond VA on Monument Ave…

  • aceituna

    How Mr. Romney does his worship and church duties is the least of my concerns. He and the church leaders will figgure out the best way to handle that so that President Romney (if he wins) can fulfill both his duties to the people as president and to his church as a member. I trust that they will find a way and that he will make a good president.

    • Esther

      Thank you Mr. Aceituna, well said.

  • Evermyrtle

    The KEY to it all, and whether you recognize it or not, is "JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD" or is HE only one of GOD'S children which means, "he a brother to you and to Satan??? Are we HIS brothers and sisters or again, is he the ONLY SON. This fact makes the difference between, what makes you a Christin or non-Christian

    • carly lurl

      Semantics is not your strong suit EM. Try to speak about something you might understand.
      Religion isn't one of them.

      • Esther

        She would know better than to get brainwashed by Alinsky which makes her smarter than you, carly lurl.

  • petroskhan

    Honestly, I don't see how this is even worth an article. Who cares where Romney is going to go to church?

    I'm sure that Mormons will be happy, if he gets elected, that they got one of their boys in the White House, just like Catholics were when Kennedy got in. Beyond that, I don't see anyone really caring. The important thing here is, get the BO out of the White House.

    Aside from that, who really cares if the next (and vastly superior) president is Jewish, Buddhist, or Odinist…at least he won't be working so hard to destroy this country, like the present sorry excuse is doing.