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Why Mitt's Mormonism doesn't matter

Mormonism is a minority sect once persecuted by mainstream American Christians for its unconventional doctrines and practice of polygamy. It is still viewed by many as an odd cult. But a Mormon is the Republican nominee for president, and he can take consolation that if he loses, it will not be because of his religion.

That may be the biggest surprise of this election year. Freedom of religion is a constitutional principle, but it has long coexisted with widespread hostility toward certain faiths. When he ran four years ago, Mitt Romney's affiliation with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was a novelty that looked to be a liability.

Running against him then, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee — an ordained Southern Baptist minister — asked, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?" Huckabee went on to trounce Romney in the Iowa caucuses.

During that campaign, in an effort to allay suspicions, particularly among evangelicals, Romney gave a speech announcing, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and the savior of mankind." He ostentatiously aligned himself with Christian conservatives by denouncing those "intent on establishing a new religion in America — the religion of secularism."

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  • tod

    It Does Matter,both muslims and mormons are Antichrist cults !!!

    • http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ Ted R. Weiland

      Amen! For anyone who thinks otherwise, see 2 John 1:7-11.

    • Esther

      Huge difference tod. I am sorry you have not seen the need to differentiate.

  • http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    "Freedom of religion is a constitutional principle…." Indeed, but it is NOT a Biblical principle. You'll look in vain for anything in the Bible that tolerates religions who promote gods other than Yahweh, as does Amendment 1 of the Constitution. This alone should be a wake-up call for Christians who think the Constitution is Biblically compatible.

    By the way, this statement has nothing to do with the individual choice to serve Yahweh or not.

    For more, see Chapter 11 "Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism" of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective" at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt11.php.

    • Vladimir

      Hi Ted R. Weiland. I see you are back peddling your anti-U.S. Constitution "ministry".

      The U.S. Constitution is a temporal legal document that was designed to protect free men and women from a government that was to be created by it. Because of the U.S. Constitution, we are free citizens, not subjects of a monarch, like the English monarchs who imposed the Church of England on their subjects.

      We like the U.S. Constitution and we are unlikely to give up our freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution so you can impose on us your version of the correct worship of Yahweh.

      • http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ Ted R. Weiland

        I said a wake-up call to Christians, not Mormons.

        • Vladimir

          A wake-up call from Ted R. Weiland is like a phone solicitation for kosher ham while you are in the shower.

      • Esther

        Howdy Vlad. Was that an awesome debate? Mitt did his dad proud.

        • Vladimir

          I would hate to have to debate in favor of socialism. This was the first time Obama had to really defend his beliefs. He fell flat.

      • Evermyrtle

        You are back to your vicious act, if you are a Christian you must accept the fact that every last one of us has a right to his own belief. I generally agree with Weiland. Americans, many of us put more faith in the constitution than we do in GOD'S WORD.

        You can easily say what you think with out your hateful remarks. They do not reflect that you are a Christian.

      • BIGHOSS

        And you may be sure that Ted and his fellow wackadoodles, should they get their way, would impose on this country a theocratic regime of THEIR devising. I'll stick to the Constitution, thank you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Patton/592034163 Andrew Patton

      And you'll look in vain for anything in the Bible that tolerates rebelling against the authorities God has established, and I'm not talking about the civil authorities. Ted, you are a rebel who refuses to submit himself to the authority of his bishop. How can you say that you promote a Godly theocracy when you are in rebellion against God's Church and the bishops He has anointed to oversee His People? Get the beam out of your own eye, you hypocrite! How can you say you want God's will to be the civil law when you yourself refuse to recognize the authority of God's Church?

      • http://www.missiontoisrael.org/ Ted R. Weiland

        Proverbs 26:4

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

    I cannot and will not vote for either a mormon or a muslim for US president.

    • Esther

      I vote for Mitt… the Latter-day Saint… or simply LDS or Saint, the "Mormon" (btw, Mormon is a prophet who collated the Book of Mormon, and Mormon is not the name of the person who is a member for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.)

    • Wayne

      If you do not vote for the Mormon, then you are voting for the Muslim by default because you are allowing the Muslim to stay in office without resistance. At least choose the better of the two roads for the country to follow. I do not believe that Mitt Romney has any intention of attempting to reform the country to the Mormon beliefs. I DO believe however that Obama shows his intent to make an easy road for Islam to grow in America, and use their religious-political will to create new laws in conformity with Sharia law. Islam is a Political ideology, Mormonism is not.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

        I choose to obey God's command and not vote for evil, even the lesser of two evils. My sovereign Lord is in complete control. My only duty is to obey and honor Him. He will do all things for His glory. He can even use the evil to bring about His will. However, I should not ever support evil.

        • Vladimir

          Anyone who says Mitt Romney is evil doesn't know who Mitt Romney is. Only a total amnesiac or someone in a coma for the last 20 years could make such a totally uninformed statement without lying through their teeth.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

            Mitt Romney has performed a "gay" marriage; he has supported abortion; her has installed government "health care" in MA. And you say he is not evil. Well, you're wrong.

  • Evermyrtle

    The Mormons do say that JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD. What they do not say is the "JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD." To them HE is "A SON OF GOD". They do not believe that HE IS GOD, being the only born of GOD, but that HE is only a prophet. They teach that GOD was married, I believe and had other children.To Christians "This Is Blasphemy, and does not make them Christian!" Even Satan knows that"HE IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD."

    Is this what we will have as president or will it be a Muslim Islamists?? The outlook is not what I would like to be, but this does mean the JESUS will soon be coming back for HIS people.

    • Vladimir

      Okay, Evermyrtle, I hate to burst your excitement bubble and remind you once again that your memory is slipping, but, Mormons proclaim to the world that "JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD". Do you understand? Do I have to repeat it once more? If you have any doubts, read John 3:16. You can also watch the church's semi-annual broadcasts from Salt Lake City on both Saturday and Sunday of this weekend on many cable channels.

      You are also confused about who said what. Mormons preach that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. MUSLIMS deny Jesus is the Christ and call Him simply a prophet.

      Do Mormons preach Jesus is God, answer: YES. Do Mormons pray to Jesus Christ's Father? Yes, because Jesus instructed us to do that in the Bible. Is Jesus Christ's father Father, God? Yes. Is the Holy Ghost, God? Yes. Are they three different personages or one god as the Council of Nicea declared. They are three Gods as demonstrated over and over again in the New Testament.

      • Evermyrtle

        It really was not a bubble it is so sad, it is more like a drag. I was reading from Mormon records as well as repeating what some Mormons are saying. Of course, I do know that everyone in any church do not necessarily believe all that the church teaches.I will try not to ever write something hateful to you because this is not GOD'S plan for me. I am so happy to know that you believe that JESUS CHRIST IS GODS ONLY SON. This is wonderful news. But it is not GOD'S plan that we be vicious and hateful to each other

        Matt. 5:43-44
        43. You have heard that it has been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor and hate thine enemy.
        44. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you

        I accept the fact that you are a Christian but the vicious part did not come from GOD

  • Dan Riggs

    A non-vote or a vote for Obama are the same thing. If you want another 4 years of Obamaism or you think Obama is a Christian then vote for him or do not vote, either way Obama wins. Do we cut off our Nation's nose to spite our face? What type of America do we want to leave for our children? A bankrupt (financially and spiritually) Nation, a third world level country, or do we want to move back to restoring what we have lost in terms of moral fiber, freedom, and direction. Under Obama we cannot say "In God We Trust".

    • daves

      Does that mean that not voting for President Obama is a vote for Mr. Romney?

      • http://www.answersingenesis.org/ keyboardshark

        If you are an Obama supporter but you stay home and do not vote, it is as least as good as a half vote for Romney. And vice versa if you are a Romney supporter. Some who comment on these pages (and you know who you are) do not seem to understand that. They will declare their opposition to Obama yet sit home on election day because Romney isn't perfect, or vote for some write-in candidate who doesn't have a snowball's chance in you-know-where, thereby ensuring another 4 years for the pathological liar Obama.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neal-Avery/100003816547114 Neal Avery

          If we can just get Obama out. We can deal with Romney if he doesn't work out. They are "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints." I am an Anglican, but I was an Episcopalian. I would vote for almost anyone but an Episcopalian. Except for Obama. I would even vote for the Presiding Bishop instead of Obama. Not that it would be much different.

  • TACIM4

    We can bear another 4 years of an islamic president who is so self involved that he doesn't even care that he is ruining this country for his own children.
    I think that we have to look at the backgrounds of both canidates, their voting history and pray for the Lord to guide our vote. But yes we have to vote. And I can't believe the Lord will let the Dumbacrats keep control of the senate or win the White House again since they are all anit Isreal and took God from their platform.
    It's his will be done not ours.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neal-Avery/100003816547114 Neal Avery

      You can help the Lord by voting for Romney. Otherwise the Dumbacrats may retain control. The Lord has given us free will. We must use it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Patton/592034163 Andrew Patton

      There is no contest here. Obama voted to allow critically injured babies to be left to die. He's a pro-abortion radical even by Democrat standards. Romney, while not perfect on the right to life, at least professes the inherent dignity of a human being, and has promised to work toward eliminating at least 98% of all abortions. Now it's possible that time will reveal Romney to be a liar who never meant anything he said, but until such time as I have evidence of that, I have to take him at his word.

      • Ethan David Ellingson

        We heard that lie from "W", and he did little to stop the murder of the unborn.

        We face the ancient crossroads once again: choose this day whom you will serve: the U.S. Constitution and the Baals it has created for centuries, or Yahweh through His Son and His perfect law of liberty. Simple choice for a true Christian – but not easy…

        • Vladimir

          FALSE choice, Ethan David Ellingson (or Ted R. Weiland whoever you are).

          Are we suppose to trash our Constitution and choose some other form of government so everyone has to worship Yahweh? Do we really want to remove freedom of religion from the table so YOU can dictate that everyone MUST worship Yahweh?

          If so, the first thing we must do is execute all those that don't worship Yahweh or perhaps we can borrow from Islam and the unbelievers can pay a tax for not worshiping Yahweh.

          Next we weed out the ones that aren't worshiping Yahweh ENOUGH or the CORRECT way and execute or tax them, too.

          Do you honestly think that we on this website don't think for ourselves?? Do you think we can't identify nonsense when it is presented to us?

          The U.S. Constitution has afforded us the best opportunity ON EARTH to
          worship Yahweh according to the dictates of our own conscience and we are not required to execute anyone.

          Your premise is rubbish and you have no plan or end game. Go back to Ted R. Weiland and tell him we are on to his effort to destroy our Constitutional protections and replace them with Obama socialism.

          • Ethan David Ellingson

            Thank you for your response.

            I am not a Weilandite. I've read the Scriptures and the Constitution for myself, have you? It is clear that the God of Heaven was supplanted in 1789 for another god, "We the People". The original colonists, according to the Mayflower Pact, purposed to "expand the boarders of the Kingdom of God". You may not like their purpose, but I do. A bunch of lawyers got together in 1787 and took the theonomy away from the colonists and handed them a polytheistic, anti-thetical toward God, statist fomenting "supreme law of the land", which has resulted in gross contradiction to the basic precepts of the Law of God, and a multitude of cancers that have plagued this land, the latest bleeding, puss-filled growth being the God-cursed sodomite appeal to "marry".

            I will quote this again, because you must understand as a son of Japheth:

            "Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men. He was also saying to them, "You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.""

            What you call rubbish, I call a true, long-lasting remedy to the illness that has stricken America.

  • Evermyrtle

    Who says that it doesn't matter?? It matters to me, I want a Christian who accepts the HOLY TRINITY, including MY SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST, GOD AND THE HOLY GHOST.

  • Ethan David Ellingson

    Based on the article and discussion it seems the mass media spell is working. [dreamy, soft voice] "There are only two candidates… a good person votes… the constitution will save us… religion doesn't matter… lesser of two evils… don't complain if you don't vote… sleep, sheeple, sleep."

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    "…governing authorities… are a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil." Ro. 13

    Is this a Christian nation or isn't it? Either Christ is King and Lord of all or He isn't.

  • Evermyrtle

    Who is the authority that says it doesn't matter? I believe that is up to GOD!!!