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Texas Church Calls Obama 'Muslim,' 'Communist'

A message put on the sign of an interdenominational church in Texas referring to President Barack Obama as a "Muslim" and a "Communist" has garnered controversy.

Church in the Valley, a congregation situated in Leakey, posted a message on their marquee sign reading: "Vote for the Mormon, not the Muslim! The capitalist, not the communist!"

According to local media, members of the church self-described themselves as "right-wing" and "conservative," and say that the sign has gotten mostly positive feedback.

The Rev. Sam Hunnicut, pastor at nearby Hunt United Methodist Church, told The Christian Post that, speaking for himself rather than his congregation, the sign had fulfilled a negative purpose.

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  • Something to Think About

    Nothing wrong with just stating the obvious.

    • Kalev

      Obama is neither Muslim or Marxist. He is an athiest and an Alinskyite, hell bent on destroying the USA and having it under a NWO form of "government". Islam is NOT a religion it IS a ideology to rule in a manner similar to Nazism.

      • RonMar

        Obama is both an Islamist and Marxist, Alinskyite, hell bent …, but you are right about Islam being a political power and control system.

      • Me_in_Canada_eh

        He is a muslim, he was raised as a muslim and attended a madrassa in Indonesia. When he went to a speaking engagement at Notre Dame University, there was a statue of Christ in the auditorium. He made them cover it with a sheet. His bible is Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals", his mother associated with Frank Marshall Davis, a known communist, and his biggest supporter is George Soros, one of the most influential communists in the world today.

        • http://www.facebook.com/george.hardin3 George Hardin

          Obama's mother was a communists as were her parents.

      • Richard Brophy

        Whether Obama is Muslim or not, he clearly is partial to the Muslims. He and Hillary Clinton support the U.N. anti-Islam defamation law which prohibits saying anything bad about Islam; of course you can mock Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. Call him whatever you want, but when a person demonstrates fealty to Islam (and not any other religion), to me, he is a Muslim.

      • js

        the muslim book says it is ok to pretend to be something else to do away with the infadel.

        • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

          It is called taquiya(spelling?). As long as it furthers islam it is ok.

      • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

        Correction. He is a mooslim. islam is a cult just as the cult of jim jones in ghyanna was. You do what the "leader at the time" says or you die. In the jones cult they died anyway.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Johnson/100000824645514 Stephen Johnson

        Not a communist but his mentor was Frank Marshall Davis? Do you then consider it "just a coincidence" that the American "c"ommunist party endorsed him for re-election? Or that the people of China referred to him as "a friend of communism"?

    • Kronae

      You must be blind. It is hardly obvious.

      • daves

        Or even true.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BX7Q3RKO7UTT6Q7TJE27NVGPQE lonestarlady

          Still worshiping at the alter of Obama aren't you daves?

          • daves

            I worship no man.

          • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

            Your coments say otherwise.

        • Esther

          What daves? Et tu brute? so glad I stayed up to read all the news… until now I did not know your stance. You need help. Tell me, is it too late to get help? Are you completely lost to that "side"? Yes or no?

          • daves

            President Obama is neither a Muslim or a Communist. Please feel free to prove me wrong.

          • Esther

            You are a Kronae sidekick, evident above. Read my posts on this page, DaveS. I didn't mention any ideologies or religions. you did. But being a follower as you have demonstrated just may be a lot worse. Btw, do you know the person you followed and the reason for my dismay?

          • daves

            No I don't. Who is this person I followed?

          • Esther

            Something to Think About • a day ago−Nothing wrong with just stating the obvious.50 2 •Reply•Share ›
            Kronae • a day ago • parentYou must be blind. It is hardly obvious.2 9 •Reply•Share ›
            daves • a day ago • parent−Or even true.0 15 •Reply•Share ›

          • daves

            ? Kronae?

          • Esther

            Affirmative

          • daves

            Oh – I didn't realize you meant who commented before me. What does this have to do with anything?

          • Esther

            You responded to one of the Alinskyite's of the Rules for Radicals ilk, Kronae, see your parent statement. Did you mean to do otherwise?

          • Socialist Troll

            Hey … daves, your making us socialists look bad. Now, bow down and worship our Fuhrer, The Obama.

          • Esther

            You mean the emperor who has no clothes

          • Socialist Troll

            Good lies, keep it up!

          • Esther

            .
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            DaveS: THIS character along with other Kronae students and adherents are community organizers using your taxpayer money as a member of the alinsky rules for radicals gang in full force today for the emperor who has no clothes
            .
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          • Lurl

            We have just been advised that you are someone who portrays themselves as a Moron/Mormon. It has been well noted that you have never been a part of the LDS cultic group and have been lying about this for some time.
            It was most providential that this information was provided to us from several mods.
            Why would anyone be so deceitful as to portray themselves as a member of the LDS group unless they had ulterior motives such as making them appear to be as stupid as possible.
            Would you like us to publish all your names here or would you rather stop attacking us. What difference is it to you that we are a part of the Alinsky Philosophy? There are many well known public figures in business, medicine, teaching, religion and politics who have been very brilliant students of this philosophy from several universities and colleges.
            You are not in any form,other than one who has been excommunicated, a practicing Mormon.
            Good luck and have a jolly life.

          • Esther

            YOU SAID: "What difference is it to you that we are a part of the Alinsky Philosophy?"
            You are really out of the loop that you think you are in, if you don't know the answer to that question. Why don't you publish the resume of the famous Alinskyites and their deeds to start that quest, if you feel the Alinsky philosophy is so innocuous, especially in the case where you think you choose the right field? I would certainly want to know the implications of the philosophy I study. By your question you do not seem to know.

            BTW, Disqus, the service this forum uses to store comments, hides nothing of me, so the threat to "expose" me is meaningless. I would expect nothing less of you and your ilk to destroy good Americans. If you think I am an idiot, go ahead. Be careful you are about to shoot yourself in the foot. 'Don't know what that means? Ask any red-blooded American.

          • Lurl

            Don't have a clue as to what you mean but then I am NOT a red-blooded american.
            Thanks for the thought….
            That is what counts.
            By the way it is not just your alias that amuses us it is your many "other" antics.
            By the way our great Emperor has plenty of beautiful form fitting clothes.
            Now get ready for the Donald and his great expose that we have know about for over 8 years and he just found out. Perhaps he is also a dollar short.
            He too is a student of Dr. Alinsky. Strange bedfellows here.

          • Esther

            No surprise you are not a red blooded American. I suggest you learn how to read if you are getting a degree in a reading discipline.

          • Lurl

            Sorry but they can't tell the truth. Must be a genetic problems from the inbred moron/mormons.

          • Esther

            Au contraire, idiot lurl. I have my parents genes you wish you had (DaveS: THIS lurl character is a member of the alinsky rules for radicals gang in full force today for the emperor who has no clothes)

        • van Helsing

          Bagged another Troll!

          • Esther

            van Helsing, DaveS is a regular commenter on Zionica, he is naive … we all know that who know him… does that still make him a troll?

          • Esther

            .
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            DaveS: THIS character "van Helsing" is also is a member of the Alinsky Rules for Radicals gang paid with taxpayer grants from our federal government to destroy the U. S. Constitutional Republic.

          • van Helsing

            Esther: I am NOT, or ever was, part of the Alinsky gang.

          • Esther

            Great. I am sorry for the insult. We have been bombarded by them and I am touchy. What does it mean to be a troll? I misunderstood what you meant?

          • van Helsing

            I simply hunt them down and expose them.

          • Esther

            Gee whiz, I don't want to be one of those. I think I know what you mean, then when I first spoke to you, you meant lurl? Is that right?

      • Esther

        Why? Ans: B/c all these foregoing descriptions fit you, don't they Kronae?

    • edc

      There is no one named on the sign so how do liberals know it's obama-bin-lyin that's the muslim, or the communist? (If the shoe fits.)

  • bill

    love it.

  • victorbarney

    Not too bad. After all, MARXISM & ISLAM are in CALIPHATE to DESTROY U.S.(Israel, as England by the seed of Joseph & including Judah, but not Dan(Rev. chapter7) out of brotherly hate from Esau. Did I mention that both Marxism & Islam are "Anti-Christ" in belief, but ONLY MARXISM is unable to be FORGIVEN? Why Marxism only? Because it even DENIES THE SPIRITUAL WORLD, which is blasopheme against the set-apart Spirit & unforgiveable both in this world & the next world, also as written. p.s. Welcome to Adam's world, even BEFORE the FIRST MURDERER was EVEN BORN. Just saying…

    • Winston

      You err in saying only Marxism is unable to be forgiven, because the Bible teaches us that all those who deny the deity of Jesus as the only begotton Son of the Almighty God and second person of the Holy Trinity is the only unforgiveable sin. So that means that all religions rejecting Jesus as God, and view him only as a "good man", "teacher", "prophet" are all self-condemned by their unbelief. That includes Mormons and Muslims.

      • Kronae

        You to a sick and need this silly crutch in order to live. Try walking on your own two feet and make life livable.

        • Esther

          KRONAE: NO ANSWER YET FROM YOUR STUDENT ON THIS ONE… CARE TO COMMENT OR ANSWER THE QUEST?:

          Esther • 7 hours ago • parent
          Lurl: More of Americans are being forced into welfare…32 million have grown to 47 million on Obama's watch, he is building his Army of Obama, an army of free loaders, being created to perpetuate his power.And when there are more freeloaders and less taxpayers…
          What happens, lurl?

          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, PROF. KRONAE

      • Kalev

        There is One God, the Father and His Son is the Savior sent to all mankind, those that truly believe that fact are in-dwelled with the Holy Spirit, the very essence of God the Father.
        The Doctrine of the Trinity is a doctrine of men and it teaches a heretical tri-theism and denys the monotheic nature of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The research is enormous, so much so that anyone with a decent search engine can find the evidence individually.

        • Evermyrtle

          The term "Trinity" is not a word that is mentioned in the WORD OF GOD, but it is true. We do have all three of wonderful power and we cannot deny any one of them. If we said "GOD AND JESUS CHRIST is the PERFECT DUET" would be much the same as the TRINITY, and there would be no harm in it. We have so much, that is sin we do not need to be trying to make sin or look for more sin.

        • dntmkmecomoverther

          Let's hear you describe the essence of the persons of God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. What would you say as a creed of what you believe?

        • SonnyMagoo

          A search engine? That is the source of truth? Wow. If only I had known.
          The trinity doctrine is mans attempt to describe what is not possible to human understanding.

          • Kalev

            The Gospel is "not possible to human understanding". Why should the "Doctrine of the Trinity be as such? It is because mere men developed it and those Gentile men had some very heretical ideas at that time. These same men denied the Jewishness of the Messiah out of fear of the Roman authorities that were persecuting the Jewish people at that time, believing and non-believing Jews alike.
            BTW, are you aware that Matthew 28:19 was not in Matthews original Gospel but was modified to suit Trinitarians some 350-400 years after the Ascension? The evidence is there for those interested enough. The original text, as understood was, "…baptizing them in My Name…" The Doctrine of the Trinity was "developed" by the early Roman Catholic Church, that in and of itself makes it very suspect to me.

          • millergroup2

            Then you need to read the Word of God Kalev. You have been listening to much of the Mormon doctrine?

      • Evermyrtle

        I don't believe that is what "Sinning against the HOLY GHOST means!!" The Trinity is made up of GOD, JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY GHOST.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BX7Q3RKO7UTT6Q7TJE27NVGPQE lonestarlady

        Excuse me Winston, but that does not include the Mormons as they believe in the Holy Spirit, Jesus and God!

        • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

          But they do NOT believe Jesus is the Lamb who was crucified for our sins. They do not believe nor do they accept the concept that accepting Jesus as your personal Saviour is the only way to get to heaven.

      • Esther

        You could learn a thing or two about patriotism from the saints, Winston. They are wonderful EAGLE SCOUT BUILDERS. I bet they are doubly so in TEXAS!!! Go Texas!

        Take note Winston: Mormon is a highly revered American priest who gathered the writings of his peoples and put them together into a book we now call after him: The Book of Mormon. So we are not Mormons, that is a nickname. We are the saints or LDS from the real name of Christ's church: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints!!!

        Thank you for making that distinction!!! and thank you for your comment.

        • Lurl

          And you are none of them. You are not now nor have you ever been a mormon.
          You are just another irrelevant person with too much time on your hands and love to play the part of an agent provocateur!
          How many are with you using your ID? Otherwise we know you are a 24 hour scam artist?
          Does your mum let you sit around all day and night using that 10 year old computer?
          Please keep up your most interesting and irrelevant sayings filled with lies and distortions.

          • Esther

            Time for a new green card, lurl? You had better be nicer to tax paying Americans, there are fewer and fewer of us to pay your bills. We could change the rules about foreign students once Obama gets displaced.

          • Lurl

            I believe the post had as its subject your are here portraying a person who would be a mormon. Why, I would never guess but you are Not a Mormon. You probably don't even own a Dressage horse.
            Sorry I don't have a green card. No one pays my bills other than myself. There is no way you will change the rules about students, or anything else in this world.
            Fraud!

          • Esther

            lurl, got his ph.d. with Kronae, he said "Why, I would never guess but you are Not a Mormon." Can you believe this is where our taxpayer money is going?

          • Esther

            More of Americans are being forced into welfare…32 million have grown to 47 million on Obama's watch, he is building his Army of Obama, an army of free loaders, being created to perpetuate the his power.

            And when there are more freeloaders and less taxpayers… What happens, lurl?

          • Esther

            lurl, What grade did you get from your teacher Kronae the Alinskyite, to begin your destruction of America?

          • Esther

            Gee Whiz, lurl, I am honored to be one of your enigmas. So you consider hard-working Americans who pay taxes and support the U. S. Constitutional Republic, "just another irrelevant person," a "scam artist", an "agent provocateur" … that seems to be the entire spectrum … goodness…

            Well, no. Actually I am one of many "hardworking Americans who pay taxes and support the U. S. Constitutional Republic." Can you say that? Because, all those other things, which you learned watching the Avengers Movie, No, are not me, nor are they the regular taxpayers here. The movies are just for fun here, lurl, haven't you found that out yet?. I am just a plain taxpayer concerned about who is using my taxes and how are they using that money.

            Now, does that make more sense to you? See, nothing romantic about it at all. Just good old American know-how lurl, didn't you learn about it in sociology class? If you want "just another irrelevant person," a "scam artist", an "agent provocateur" you will likely find those in your old country. When are you leaving to go home? You seem to be missing that element of your society, and I am wishing we had fewer like those, maybe fewer like you if you are really that way.

            If you are into real sociology, you might do well to investigate another graduate program than Kronae, an anathema. There are hundreds of programs across this great United States and hundreds of points of view. Begin with a study of the U. S. Constitution and the great men who composed it.

    • Kronae

      You have nothing to say. Your words a meaningless and useless. The IRS will solve all these scum churches that take advantage of all the low IQ people around who are so gullible.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6JJT2ZCFDB3ZB26UQM2CSPRXXY redrover

        You are as big a fool as the government is now!!

      • Evermyrtle

        Most of the scum is outside of the churches, never seen in one except maybe at a funeral or a wedding.

        • Kronae

          The scum are those who sit in the pews and hand the worthless buggers who run the places their hard earned shekels. They are a bunch of sheep that can't think for themselves.
          Well now we will see how many so-called churches survive with the new rules now in effect., Time for these burdens on society to pay for all the freebies they have been getting. Now they can realize there is a real separation of church and state.

          • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

            And you are the fool. May God have mercy on your soul.

          • petroskhan

            Your viewpoint would be annoying (as is the fact that you're allowed to vote and breed), if you weren't so danged FUNNY!

            To think, a person with enough brain cells to actually remember to breathe can hold the opinions that you do! Astonishing!

          • Aristophanes

            kronae – you really are drinking the obama kool-aid. You have a problem with churches being tax exempt; but, you have no problem with welfare, food stamps, etc.? What planet do you come from? Oh, never mind – the obama planet. It just really amazes me that there are people out there who really believe what you just stated. And, of course, you have to do the personal attacks instead of just addressing the issues. Another obozo supporter trait. I actually feel sorry for you – when you do finally realize what obozo is up to, it will be too late. But, then again, you might never realize it. See, I can be very subtle in my attacks – I just called you stupid.

          • van Helsing

            Bagged another Troll!

          • Esther

            You mean like Obama in Reverend Wright's church?
            How much freebee of the taxpayer money did you get this year for teaching your ideology to your graduate students, Professor Kronae?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BX7Q3RKO7UTT6Q7TJE27NVGPQE lonestarlady

        Great we will tell the IRS to tax athiests triple of what everyone else is taxed. Move to a non believing country. You will be happier and so will we.

        • Kronae

          Take care of your own problems first fat busybody.

          • Esther

            That would be you Kronae.

        • Esther

          This guy is an Alinskyite, lonestarlady!!! He is a student of Saul Alinsky, who wrote Rules for Radicals. The same background in Chicago as Barack Hussein Obama. That is his issue which he does not understand. Being an atheist is not the issue. You are right we would be happier in the case you give. Thanks for standing up against him. He has many students posting here and everywhere, btw.

      • whynot

        You are not only unbeliver, you are what God created hell for, an empty shell to be burned to nothing….a pig that he cast the evil spirits into!!!!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

          actually kronae will live forever. In torment, pain, agony, and hearing inhuman screams forever and ever.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mfernandez57 Michael Fernandez

        Those "scum churches" are obviously not taking advantage of "all the low IQ people around" as you apparently escaped being taken advantage of by them, so why not change it to "so many of the low IQ people around" that way, there's room for the few odd low IQ people like yourself.

      • Esther

        The IRS also collects taxes to apportion to universities Kronae. Aren't we who pay you? You work for us. The lonestarlady is very likely a taxpayer also. Most alert Americans do pay taxes. That is how we have run this republic of a country over 200 years. We have not been in fiscal trouble like this before progressivism took hold 70 or so years ago.. I don't have to tell you what progressivism is, do I? You are an educated man, Alinsky should have told you or you should have had a course or two in 20th century American and European history, as all incoming university students must. You do seem to have blinders on.

    • Bighoss

      Yep, we all need to avoid "blasopheme." And we all need to avoid that asinine British Israelism you espouse.

  • mallen11

    WOW! Talk about spreading the truth about -0!!! I pray that God will protect that church and the entire congregation with a wall of fire. Of course the "social gospel" Methodist will go against the truth.
    The wall of fire principle comes from…

    Zechariah 2:4-6 and said to him, “Run, speak to that young man, saying, ‘Jerusalem will be inhabited without walls because of the multitude of men and cattle within it. For I,’ declares the Lord, ‘will be a wall of fire around her, and I will be the glory in her midst.’”

    • sroesser

      Amen!!

  • grassroot

    Well, as Jesus said, " By their fruits ye shall know them," A duck that waddles,,

  • Kalev

    Not the right way to show Christian values.

    • Aristophanes

      kalev – What do you consider the right way to show Christian values? I think it is showing Christian values. Jesus fought the money changers and Christians are not suppose to lie. You are one of those people who has to attack Christians no matter what. And you can't handle it when Christians finally voice what they believe. I totally agree with this Church. i just wish my conservative Church would do the same thing.

      • Kalev

        I believe in Yeshua, Jesus' given Hebrew name. Obama nor Romney are Christians. Obama is not a Muslim (Islamist) he is a radical Alinskyite, an athiest hell bent on Destroying the USA and turn it into NWO ruled serfdom. That Church sign is incorrect and mis-leading. Do you consider misleading others as a Christian value?

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/6JJT2ZCFDB3ZB26UQM2CSPRXXY redrover

          You are sensible to believe, but the sign is true; he is a muslim, a communist high up and if churches do not get Christians to fight for this nation, it will persih earlier than the Lord plans!! We MUST stand for FAITH,PATRIOTISM and ALL that this naiton was founded on!!! Just the values I have stands; faith in God and our foundation there of, patriotsm and all the documents founded in faith that were written for us in freedom to be as was given to us in founding the greatest nation in the world!!! TIME TO GET BACK TO FAITH OF ALL AND THE TRUTH ALL THE WAY AROUND!!!! WE UNITE AS ONE PEOPLE AND STAND FOR AMERICA, OR WE ARE GOING TO LOOSE HER!!!!

          • Bighoss

            He is NOT a Muslim. He was born in the U.S. and is as loyal to it as any other good citizen. He is a moderate liberal, NOT a communist. And by your post, you clearly stamp your ignorant self as a dingbat dupe of the wackadoodle right wing nut species.

          • Aristophanes

            bighoss – boy, you really got your point across intelligently (sarcasm)!! Try again without the really dumb attacks.

          • Bighoss

            Not "attacks", just correct taxonomy.

        • Aristophanes

          You are very arrogant and prideful. That Church sign is correct and not at all misleading. Look up your definitions and your history. obozo is a muslim and a communist. I agree with you that he wants nwo and he wants to be the dictator. But, I do not agree with you that all he is is a "radical Alinskyite".

          • Kronae

            He is none of the above. He is one of the greatest president the us has ever had.
            He is far too good for you bunch of hicks.
            Being dictator of this failed country is not what he wants to do.

          • Aristophanes

            Okay – that just confirmed it. You are an alien from the obozo planet. There is so much wrong with your post, I do not have the space to reply. But, I will say this: If you think he is "the greatest president", you really need to read the U.S. TRUE history; not the false history obozo is trying to create. Also, if seeing obozo for what he really is makes me and other conservatives "hicks", then I will proudly wear the title (along with racist, homophobe, and any of the other cute little names you regressives come up with). I was once proud of my country and hope to be again when obama is OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

        • whynot

          Do you have a belief or are you spouting names you heard on blogs trying to sound like someone in the know?….because you keep repeating the same garbage!!!!! Go away….get a life….please move to another country…..bye!!!!!!

        • Bighoss

          Kalev–your cover has been blown. Check out some heavy truth:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VrsFEiTpsQ&feature=plcp

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6udew9axmdM

          The link is to the video recording of a secret (until now) ceremony in a Mormon temple, covertly recorded and now available for us "Gentiles" to view. There are many Mormons who have not been through this temple ceremony (wherein the participants acquire status as "temple Mormons") and who have never seen what actually goes on there, but NOW THEY CAN, and so can you and I, owing to the infiltration of this silly ritual by outsiders who somehow engineered this coup.
          Many thanks to those who are showing the world just what kind of zany stuff goes on in these now-no-longer-secret rituals. I wager the current "Prophet" and the current "Twelve Apostles" are fit to be tied over the release of this video.
          There are interesting political aspects to this also. A very interesting aspect of this temple tomfoolery is the covenant and promise that the Mormon candidates for "temple endowment" are required to make, to wit "…to pray to Almighty God Elohim to avenge the blood of the prophets upon the United States, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the 3rd and 4th generations." That has to mean that Mitt's daddy, George, was committed to teaching this covenant of vengeance upon the U.S. to his children, including, of course, Mitt, and that if Big George was still living when Mitt's 5 kids were of teachable age, Big George was obliged by this covenant and promise to indoctrinate this duty of vengeance within these grandchildren also. According to the UTube video, this duty had been cut from the temple ceremony by the time Mitt became a "temple Mormon," so he is not obliged to teach this duty to his own kids, but he certainly would not have been expected to interfere with Big George's covenant, promise and sacred duty to pump up the grandkids with vengeful sentiments against the U.S. More significantly, Big George presumably fulfilled his temple commitment to instruct little Mitt himself of HIS duty to pray for "Elohim" to whup up on the U.S. for the alleged murder of the prophets. Now all THAT seems to me to be much more worrisome than the family history the wingnuts cite to support their tenuous and speculative claim that the President is a Muslim, namely that as a little boy in Indonesia, he actually attended Muslim-operated elementary school (and the only school available there) for a few years. Do we want a man in the Oval Office with a family history of vowing vengeance upon the United States??!!

      • Kronae

        No you don't! If you did you would no longer have a church next Wednesday. It would become a tax paying group.

    • RonMar

      Kal, so you believe Jesus was wrong vexing the Jewish authorities of His time so badly they asked the Romans to crucify Him. He called the authorities a nest of vipers, Raca meaning fool in Aramaic and threw the sacrifice sellers and moneychangers out of the Temple.

      • Kalev

        See my post above.

        • RonMar

          Saw it, and several others from you also. I agree with some of your points but not with all of your points.

          • Kalev

            I'm sure we'll never agree on all points, that doesn't really matter, what DOES matter is that you are in Messiah, and He in you through the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
            Aleikhem shalom – May peace be upon you!

          • Kalev

            Go to http://www.seedofabraham.net, you might enjoy it and learn some Hebraic perspective of the Christian faith.

          • RonMar

            Interesting site. Thanks. Are you a Messianic Jew?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6JJT2ZCFDB3ZB26UQM2CSPRXXY redrover

        JEWISH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR SAVIOR PERIOD….THAT IS THE TRUTH! I STAND WITH ISRAEL, BUT NOT WITH THOSE WHO ARE SO FOOLSIH AS TO NOT SEE THE TRUTH OR HAVE RESEARCHED EVERYTHING……DO NOT HELP CRUCIFY FAITH FOR THE SECOND TIME ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR..BE STRONG, FIND OUT THE TRUTH AND JOIN THE FIGHT FOR ALL OF US!!!! WE WANT AS MANY AS POSSIBLE TO SEE THE LIGHT AND BE IN HEAVEN….THE TIME IS SOON…I KNOW THAT THE END IS NEAR NO MATTER WHAT WE DO BUT IT IS BETTER THAN GOING DOWN IN COMMUNISM AND ISLAM!!!!!! THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR!!

        • RonMar

          I understand 144,000 Jews will accept Jesus as the Christ-Messiah-Savior, and you do not and should not be shouting (using all caps) about it here. That is rude and against posting policy:
          Posting Policy
          We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism, vulgarity, profanity, all caps, or discourteous behavior.

          • Kalev

            No, the number of Jews will be "…of the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed…" the remainder are from 11 tribes of the remnant of Israel", Rev 7:4-8. (Ephraim and Manassah represent Joseph and the tribe of Dan is excluded, and that's one I don't understand… yet.)

          • RonMar

            Looking at Rev. 14:4 again in response to another poster I noticed especially a footnote – opinion of a Bible scholar – that says, "The salvation of the 144,000 will forerun the salvation of a larger group of Israelites who will turn to the Lord at the end of the tribulation (cf. Isa. 2:3, Rom.11:15)."

          • Kronae

            So you are the local jehovah's witness rep?

          • RonMar

            No, and I cannot guess why you would imagine so.

          • Bighoss

            According to the Bible, at Revelation 14:4, the 144,000 are to be those who "were not defiled with women, for they are virgins." Thus they all are to be MEN who are VIRGINS–all 144,000 of 'em!. A tough roster to fill, ole son, but that is a problem for those of you who pick and choose willy-nilly which parts of prophecy to take literally and which parts to interpret figuratively.

          • RonMar

            Okay, but I am not one of "those … who pick and choose willy-nilly which parts of prophecy to take literally and which parts to interpret figuratively."
            Looking at Rev. 14:4 again just now I noticed especially a footnote – opinion of a Bible scholar – that says, "The salvation of the 144,000 will forerun the salvation of a larger group of Israelites who will turn to the Lord at the end of the tribulation (cf. Isa. 2:3, Rom.11:15)."

        • Kronae

          Your end is near!

          • Kalev

            Another threat I perceive.

      • Kalev

        Apple/ oranges in this particular case brother.

        • RonMar

          I don't believe so, but it's okay. We can let that one pass although I am not inclined to let people portray Jesus as only of the Sermon on the Mount, ignoring the harshness of Jesus toward the authorities of His time.

  • John Adams

    Simply stating the obvious.

  • Devasahayam

    Go Texicans — you called it right!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

      Correct terminology, Go Texans!

      • Esther

        Go Texas. Show us a good example of true patriotism!

  • Kronae

    We thank all those in charge of the IRS that this so-called church will have its rights to the free ride they wanted..never paying taxes whilst have all the benefits of a tax pay in any community will be over.
    The tax exempt status will be removed by Wednesday. Too bad they don't do it on Halloween it would be a terrific signal to all.
    Good to know the IRS is busy getting these churches off the free ride when they take all the benefits any other business has to pay for.
    BRAVO IRS!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Teresa-Smith/1240183259 Teresa Smith

      Acorn is non profit, and they are for "Dear Leader" how do you explain that?

      • Kronae

        Where have you been? Acorn is no longer in business. They were only a group of people trying to help people register to vote. Too bad we no longer have their services.

    • RonMar

      Kron, you must not be aware that on a Sunday earlier this month pastors nationwide preached "politics" from their pulpits, taped their sermons and sent them to the IRS.
      You sound as if your one day to celebrate each year is April 1.

      • Kronae

        NO! I much prefer the day that is coming right up.
        You will find that each one of those stupid so-called churches are on the list to have their tax free status will be removed. It will be beneficial to the country to have them pay real taxes but it will make them responsible for their actions against the laws of this country.
        Soon they will be just like any other business that cons people out of their money and get nothing for it.
        Why do you think the IRS has just hired over 1100 new agents. These churches will pay for their slander.

        • RonMar

          "You will find that each one of those stupid so-called churches are on the list to have their tax free status will be removed." – No, I won't find that and neither will you unless you are an IRS insider and such a list actually exists. I doubt it does other than as another figment of your imagination.
          "It will be beneficial to the country to have them pay real taxes but it will make them responsible for their actions against the laws of this country." – No it will not "be beneficial to the country." It will be damaging to the country. The supreme law of the country – the U.S. Constitution – is the basis for the tax exemption for churches.
          Only a few televangelists mostly con gullible people out of money.
          Hire of "over 1100 new agents" was provided for in the Obamacare legislation to enforce the provision of Obamacare.
          "Slander?" – You have no clue what slander is. The churches have not committed slander in any way.
          You make obvious in your posts you are ignorant and wildly anti-church.

    • Kalev

      No church should accept the non-profit status, that puts them at the mercy of the state. The separation clause doesn't give the government the right to tax the Church, that's how the founders intended it, which neither the Demoncrats or Republicrats support or accept.

  • cathylovesyou

    This Texas Church is correct, as I also feel the same since 2008. He hasn't shown me differently so it seems it true and I wonder why we have to put up with.

    • theronald

      Because too many bubbleheads drank the koolaide in 2008.

    • Kronae

      Just you just arrive here from another country?

      • Esther

        You know the ropes huh, Prof. Kronae? And you are teaching your Rules for Radicals to our American children. Any illegal aliens in your group? Teaching them how to work the American system? How much in taxpayer money are you getting from the U. S. Government this year to teach your dirty deeds?

  • Kalev

    Obama is a radical leftist and uses the Christian label to fool idiots for their vote. Obama is an Alinshkyite, hell bent on destroying the USA and replace it with a NWO style of rule.

    • RonMar

      Now you're talking right.

    • Kronae

      You have it all wrong. It was the Bush family who were so involved with the NWO and still are.

      • Ruth

        Kronae, Do your research before YOU speak….Only George HW Bush was involved with the Trilateral Commission, one of the 7 organizations that will issue in the NWO…But Both Hillary Clinton and Obama met with the Bilderbergs and Hillary was told to step aside 2012 Romney met with them…So, it won't matter who gets in…The plan is in place…If Romney should win the presidency, then Obama will move onto be the President of the NWO, As mentioned several times by former US Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, a bigshot in the Bilderbergs….Soooo, The United States Will be one of the 10 designated groups to form the NWO…NO MATTER WHO gets elected….Only the process will change…..And ONLY the God Almighty can save us.. II Chronicles 7:14…But

    • http://www.facebook.com/kenneth.lee.58511 Kenneth Lee

      The mooslim term is taquiya. Not sure of spelling but it means it is ok to lie to an infidel as long as it promotes islam or the pagan moon god allah.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003961394056 Lauritz Heinze

    So what? It's bad to tell the truth now?

    • RonMar

      The Bible says good shall be called bad, and bad shall be called good.

      • Kronae

        We can see this is 'bad' can you?

        • RonMar

          To what are you referring as "this" in your poor way of trying to communicate but failing at communicating?

  • a fellow patriot

    One thing about Texans. They don't tend to parse words. They pretty much nailed this one, and most everybody knows it, but the major networks of course are not allowed to even use the word communist. Anyway they reinvented themselves as Progressives. The idealogy is the same.

    • Kronae

      You are not a patriot…you are a certified hate monger!

      • Esther

        You are a certified vulture.

      • petroskhan

        Could you explain what is so hateful in what he posted? I've read it a couple of times, and I'm not seeing it.

      • Esther

        You are precisely the ilk Patriot is talking about… tell that to your grad students for their research in The Kronae BS Ph. D. Group, which studies Saul Ainsky's Rules for Radicals, Oh, friend of the bomber Ayers, SOS progressive Clinton, Rham Emmanuel, etc in Chicago Machine, who else… now, who is it you are calling a hate monger.

    • Esther

      Excellent observation, Patriot!

  • RonMar

    The church is right.

  • sroesser

    I say Kudos to Church in the Valley! That they are willing to speak the truth while they still can. If Obama gets reelected that right will possibly be erased from the books.

    • Kronae

      They will be erased by Wednesday…all three of them.

      • Esther

        And they pay your salary, Kronae. Another joker, about to get shot in his foot if he gets his way.

      • sroesser

        You do know your free speech rights will be gone too Kronae!

      • Esther

        Really? They will be erased? Care to elaborate on that one Professor Kronae.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neal-Avery/100003816547114 Neal Avery

    UMC is left wing Big Four Church. Of course their minister would be against what the interdenominational would say.

    • Kronae

      Would you like to have another opportunity to redo your post and try it again in English?

      • Esther

        I hope you alert your students to all your displays of lack of knowledge of Americans. You just don't know where your livelihood comes from do you Kronae?

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.papich.3 Michael Papich

    The truth shall make you free.

  • Bighoss

    A Texas church–it figures. This is the same state where a group of cattlemen are feverishly trying to breed a "red heifer" without spot or blemish as a prerequisite to the re-institution of Jewish temple worship and as an alleged means of hastening the return of Jesus to preside over the fantasy premillennialist regime they have embraced within their heretical and fanciful imaginations.

    This is the same state that gave us Rick Perry, sponsor of the big assembly of theocratic wackadoodles during the Republican primary, including several "apostles" from the heretical "New Apostolic Reformation," who envision a regime wherein all major areas of life and work in this nation become subject to religious standards propagated by them in their role as "apostles," the deplorable and egotistical C. Peter Wagner being the Rasputinesque founder of this seditious bunch of power–crazed nutjobs.

    Consider the source.

    • Kronae

      It is true. Texas does have familial problems and strange places they call churches.
      They are just the denizens of the dregs of society. No human would want to live there.

      • Esther

        Kronae: And you have The Kronae B.S. Factory

  • 1straightshooter

    What in the world is a Christian magazine doing saying, "Only 49% 'knew' that Obama 'is' a Christian." ? For heaven's sake, people, his ring says, "There is no god but Allah." Wake up!

    • Kronae

      His ring says nothing such as that. Prove that it does!
      Mine says GFY!

      • Esther

        says The Kronae B.S. Ph. D. Factory

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6JJT2ZCFDB3ZB26UQM2CSPRXXY redrover

    The churches MUST call it like it is because it IS! The truth sets us free and strengthens us in the true leader of Christians; Christ…It is way past time to take our stand for the Lord, the Nation and the TRUTH!!!!!!

  • Harold

    This church is completly right. Obama is a Muslime and a communist!

    • Kronae

      This isn't a church it is a B.S. factory.

      • Esther

        The Kronae B.S. Factory: THAT is where your graduate group of students are enrolled.

  • rick

    wow, someone else actually did the research, good job!!! the illegal, grew up in 2 households, communist & muslim. he would not have a clue about growing up in a black american household. the fact that law enforcement (arizona) is being ignored by ALL, should tell every american, that our country's politicians are ALL criminals and that our gov't is an illegal gov't. either do something about it or ????? well, i know what will happen, how bout you?

    • Kronae

      We know that President Obama will be re-elected in a landslide for the next four years.
      Where will you be moving. Can we send you a plane ticket…one way…of course.

      • Esther

        WE are not going away, Oh Vulture Kronae. Better get your tin cup ready for the street corner downstairs.

  • Oscar Dar

    DEAR AMERICA:
    WHATEVER OUR ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS, WE MUST CONVINCE OUR FRIENDS TO JOIN US. We can not give away our BELOVED AMERICA to the invaders of our country, our religions, our traditional lives to ATHEISTS, MUSLIMS and become their slaves. We must defend, preserve and protect our Constitution and our freedom of speech anywhere we are and whatever we do. That is why, we MUST JOIN OUR EFFORTS TOGETHER, to defeat the enemies and destroyers of our NATION. IF WE BELIEVE THAT ABORTION AND HOMOSEXUALITY ARE SIN, THEN FIGHT TO DEFEND OUR TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE AND THE AMERICAN LIVES, THAT NO ONE WILL EVER CHANGE US.

    • Kronae

      What exactly do you call traditional marriage?
      Only in your eyes is be gay a problem or a sin..it is neither and as to abortion is you don't want on don't have one. Your ilk will never remove that right from women again. They fought too hard and to long to have legal abortions and they will stay that way. Whom do you think you are attempting to tell women what they can and can not do.
      This is a newer age and women have come a long way. It is you who is the enemy and their are too few of you to make any difference.

      • Esther

        Speaking of ilk, why not divulge yours, Oh, Vulture Kronae. Do the parents of your students know who you and your ilk are? Probably not, My children will never study with you, dumbell.

  • Oscar Dar

    FRIENDS:
    WE ARE ALL ONE NATION AND PEOPLE OF AMERICA. OUR ENEMY NOW IS "OBAMA" AND HIS MINIONS. WE CAN NOT BE "FOOL AGAIN", TO BE FOOLED AGAIN BY OBAMA'S FALSE PROMISES, "REMEMBER SATAN" WHO PROMISED OUR FIRST PARENTS," that they will be a smart and as great as GOD. That's what OBAMA is doing now, to the NO BRAINS AMERICANS. To vote for him with a promise, that was NEVER DELIVERED… HE IS A LIAR, DISHONEST AND FABRICATOR of things that appear to be GREAT … THEY ARE ONLY PROMISES LIKE THE AIR COMING OUT OF HIS BUTT. SO let us all go out and VOTE, since IMPEACHMENT IS TOO LATE.. WE'LL GET HIM OUT IN NOVEMBER 6TH. AND SEND HIM OUT TO HIS COUNTRY KENYA TO FULFILL THE DREAMS FROM HIS FATHER.

    • Kronae

      Ah! Now we see what is going on. You have not read the books you seem to quote. Nothing you post has ever been written by our president.
      Just make it up as you go along. You are as transparent as a piece of plastic and just as sticky.
      Why not get something to do and see if you can make something of yourself rather than hiding out in your basement with your mom making up lies.

      • Esther

        You are hiding in the ivory tower making up you lies and spreading them to your students, using taxpayer money, Kronae the Bigot.

    • Bighoss

      More all caps blithering from Sir Oscar the Deranged!

  • Richard Brophy

    At last, a church courageous enough to call things the way they really are!
    They forgot to say though, "Vote for the Patriot, not the Traitor!"

    • Kronae

      After Wednesday they won't be saying much of anything as the IRS will be removing their tax free status and they will just become the usual purveyors of filth and hate-not to mention their active role in bigotry.

      • Esther

        This is coming from KRONAE THE BIGOT who lives off the taxpayer folks.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/QHRUML5XFH7AMSWH63TQH7F7E4 MalikTous

    Only difference between Castroach (Cuban dictator who just had a stroke) and Obama is Castro's lies are more predictable. Obama is a verified socialist and probable Communist/Stalinist or follower of Mao Zedong; he's also too supportive of 'hostile' faiths such as jihadist Islam and Filthy Phelps' WBC and similar extremist hate-driven faiths. Best place for Moochelle and him is a slow boat to mainland China or back to Kenya. And burn his fake ID!

    • Kronae

      Another lying piece of tripe sitting on his haunches waiting for his freebies.
      Get a job….but first learn how to write.

      • Esther

        BHaaaahahahaha you are the one getting freebies. Man, am I glad you brought that subject up!!!

        Oh One Who Teaches Community Organizing, what do you think it is like to be holding a tin cup to ask donations at the street corner from the community you are organizing!!!??? Rather than applying for your grant to pay you grad students!!! Ha ha, this is good.

        So you have grad students? And surely they are paid? And you are paid? With what KRONAE THE SCHIZOID? Kronae uses taxpayer money for EVERYTHING he does and EVERYTHING he has folks. He works FOR us!!! The USA taxpayer!!!

        • Lurl

          Yes indeed, he even works for you so that the medications you need so badly to treat your mental illness can be given to you. I do think in your case we should charge for it though.
          We can get you into the proper clinic quickly as you really are needy.

          • Esther

            Presenting once again the Alinskyite, for the emperor who has no clothes.

    • Lurl

      The one is being directed to the proper groups.

  • Oscar Dar

    AMERICA:
    OBAMA IS EVERY NAME IN THE BOOK, HE IS THE "NEW SATAN" OF THE MODERN TIMES. HE IS A MUSLIM AND PRETENDED TO BE CHRISTIAN, HE IS AN ATHEISTS, WHO PRETENDED TO BELIEVE IN GOD, HE A HOMOSEXUAL WHO PRETENDED TO BE NORMAL GUY WHO IS MARRIED, HE PRETENDED TO LOVE WOMEN AND BUT PROMOTED ABORTION TO PROTECT THE FEW. HE IS ILLEGAL AND INELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. HE IS IN SHORT AND IMPOSTOR, AND SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR ALL HIS VIOLATIONS OF THE LAWS AND NEGLECTING THE ENFORCE THE LAWS AND BYPASSED CONGRESS, AND SUED ARIZONA FOR ENFORCING THE IMMIGRATION, INSTEAD, HE ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO GRANT AMNESTY TO THE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS. We will work hard to prosecute him SOON after he loses his ILLEGAL REELECTION.

    • Kronae

      You are hysterical….keep posting! My grad students love reading your Schizophrenic material.
      Where do you find all this crap.

      • Esther

        You are the schizoid, Kronae. "Kronae the Schizoid". Thanks, that's better, it is right our of their teacher's mouth. I hope you give this to your "students." I will look for the publications…

        • van Helsing

          See below:

        • Lurl

          I won't forward this to him, shall post it immediately as the rest will find this as hysterical as all your posts.

          • Esther

            # 2:: Presenting once again the Alinskyite, for the emperor who has no clothes.

      • Vladimir

        Kronae, you've insinuated that you are some sort of a "professor" in a liberal institution of higher learning. You can't establish your credentials on this post in any other way except by the strength and accuracy of your arguments. Based on that criteria you have a long way to go to convincing anyone that your credentials are what you have suggested.

        • Lurl

          I will send this on to him. He should be thrilled although will probably never read it.

      • van Helsing

        Should your bio be corrected to say "Prof of Suppository Sociology"?

        • Lurl

          Good suggestion. I shall forward this on to him. He needs a good laugh!

    • Bighoss

      Oscar, you need to find the lower case letters and type your posts with them. Posting in all caps is the written equivalent of vocally shouting. Not one thing you have posted is worthy of even a hoarse whisper, let alone a shout, so kindly get off the all caps blithering.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.schafer.355 Jim Schafer

    let's just call a skunk a skunk—it does not matter what "religion" the obama defamation is he is just
    atheistic in all his practices and objectivities;;

    • Kronae

      Why don't you learn to speak English before you post!

      • Esther

        Kronae the Skunk, that's nicer than Vulture. So I will keep Vulture for you Kronae, you deserve it. Please don't thank me, you earned it.

    • Esther

      Jim: Atheism is NOT what this is about … it is Muslim that is the issue. Obama is Muslim. I am not an atheist, but I know atheists on this zionica forum, those whom I know are as American as anyone could possibly be, and constitutional conservatives, usually pay heed to forefathers of our country like Patrick Henry who said: "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people but is an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." Look for Jeff Dixon on Zionica and question him about this, if the topic interests you.

  • gadget

    Aabout time someone came forward to tell the TRUTH! Wake Up, America!

    • Kronae

      America is AWAKE and your kind is going down.

      • Kalev

        Typical Obama robot. disagree with threats of violence.
        Hey Moderator, pay attention here.

        • Esther

          THANK YOU.

          • Lurl

            You are most welcome. Happy to see you have joined the good doctor!

          • Esther

            #3: More rantings from the Alinskyite trolls, for the emperor who has no clothes.

      • Esther

        Kronae. YOU, you idiot! Can't you see we don't want to join the cult of Alinsky…? YOU wake up, Oh Treasured Teacher of the Alinsky Methods.

        • Lurl

          My dear person!
          Fear not! You would never be allowed to join in any activity that provides the education that only Dr. Alinsky could give us.
          You will just have to walk around in circles ruminating and vomiting your trite sayings by Joe Smith the old con man.
          Thanks Birdie for the hint!

          • Esther

            #34 More rantings from the loons of the Kromae Ph. D.in Alinsky Rules for Rdicals group, for the emperor who has no clothes.

    • Lurl

      You seem to stutter!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BX7Q3RKO7UTT6Q7TJE27NVGPQE lonestarlady

    Hooray to Church In The Valley and their pastor for speaking the truth.

    • Kronae

      These people are just another pack of liars who soon will be without their tax exempt status.
      Wednesday they will be declared just another every day business involved in deceiving the people.

      • Esther

        Kronae the Vulture, AGAIN!!!! I pay taxes, when people like me stop paying taxes where does that leave all the poor people to whom Obama is redistributing, idiot??? BHAAAHahahahaha.. you are such a bloodsucker Kronae.

        • Lurl

          From what I read here you are becoming very careless. Are you in your cups again? That wine is a bit strong for you. Is that why you start drinking it under the table…less distance for you to tip over?

          • Esther

            #5: Once again utter stupidity is demonstrated by an Alinskyite Rules for Radicals' student of Ayers, Emmanuel, Clinton, Kronae of the Chicago-Machine League, applying illogic for the benefit of the emperor who has no clothes.

    • Lurl

      One can find dumb bunnies all over Texas. It is a vast wasteland!
      Can't expect much from them that is intelligent…look at one of their products…g.w. bush!

  • Oscar Dar

    DEAR AMERICAN ELECTORATE:
    Tonight, will be the last debate between Obama and Mitt Romney. Obama stand on his FALSE PROMISES, HIS ATTACK ON ROMNEY'S SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND HIS LIES PUTTING INTO THE MOUTH OF ROMNEY. Only a FOOL WILL BELIEVE AND VOTE FOR HIM. Obama, has NO EXPERIENCE OF BUSINESS MANAGEMENT, NO SCHOOL RECORDS that he could show the WORLD. HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS FORGED AND HE IS USING A FRAUDULENT SS number. He is "RIDDLED" with lies and fabrication. HE IS NOT ONLY STANDING ON A THIN AIR. HE IS STANDING ON NOTHING. WHILE Romney, he has everything a person needs to be president. HE WAS BORN IN AMERICA WITH AMERICAN CITIZEN PARENTS, HE BECAME SUCCESSFUL IN BUSINESS, HE PROTECT, PRESERVE AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF AMERICA AND OUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH. PROTECT OUR TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE AND REGULAR AMERICAN LIVES. There is no comparison between these two men when it comes to CREDENTIALS AND RECORDS. SO, AMERICA, IT IS CLEAR ROMNEY IS THE WINNER AND OBAMA THE LOSER.

    • Kronae

      The big liar here is you oscar dar! You have posted lie after lie. What do you hope to gain by this.
      President Obama understands real people. The elitist Moromney understands firing people who get is his way and stop his unethical business practices that he learned at his fathers knee.
      The presidents records records are all online if you are bright enough to find them. You are not an American and you want to pull down the very fabric that makes america a free land and that includes speech, marriage and anything else you have been fed by the grand liars on FOX and other stations of their ilk.
      Well for you info. Moromney and his tribe of cultists are going down big time. Then what will you do? You might want to consider leaving the country and going to someplace that would better suit you. Try Saudi Arabia you would be very happy there. You would be amongst those who think as you do.

      • Kalev

        Keep sucking on O's kool-aid.
        You've exposed yourself as an Obama robot.

        • Esther

          Oh, yes, thank you… and that he is.

        • Lurl

          Whatever. But I don't drink kool-aid that is what the Moromney group prefers.
          They seem to like beer and Bourbon!

      • Esther

        You are the liar Vulture Kronae of Alinsky De-fame.

        • Lurl

          Please, you must excuse me, but am I to understand you are not of follower of Dr. Saul Alinsky? Surely then you must be a great admirer of Ayn Rand the great heroine loved by Paul Ryan. So much so he had all his underlings read her marvelous books.
          Bet you don't like Dr. Ayers either. You are missing so much!
          We are terribly impressed.

          • Esther

            #6: Once again utter stupidity is demonstrated by an Alinskyite applying illogic for the benefit of the emperor who has no clothes.

    • Lurl

      Moromney is clearly a Halloween joke. Understand there is going to be a big bonfire in the heart of Boston on Halloween eve where this cultist will be burned at the stake.
      In effigy, of course.
      Here we have a person who can't remember what he stated just prior to his usual mouth drivel.
      You do know how to determine when he lies don't you? His mouth is moving.

  • Byron

    As for me, I well not be voting for Obama. And I,m glad I dont attend a church like that or anyother church like that.

    • Lurl

      A real thinking person in this section. Amazing!

  • http://www.facebook.com/marc.jeric.9 Marc Jeric

    President Obama is a Marxist Muslim born in Mombassa, Kenya. It is now confirmed 100%.
    1) Both birth certificates were forged by clever computer imaging – the short form one and the long form one. The long form one was issued after the short-form one was shown to be a forgery and shows the hospital’s new name from 1971 – ten years after his birth.
    2) His Selective Service card is a forgery with a forged date; all SS cards show US Postal Service date with 4 numbers for the year; his card shows only two numbers – 80 – obtained by cutting out the date 2008 and reversing 08 into 80.
    3) Immigration records for the week of his birth are missing – destroyed; all such records are complete for at least 70 years – except for the first 10 days from August 1 to 10, 1961, when he was born, and when his grandmother and mother returned to Honolulu from Kenya with the baby.
    4) His Social Security card belongs to a long-dead Connecticut man by the name of Jean Paul Ludwig who died in Hawaii; Obama never lived in Connecticut. His grandmother worked for the Honolulu Social Services where she stole Mr. Ludwig’s Social Security card.
    5) His grandmother had said to the newsmen that she had accompanied her daughter, Obama's mother, on a trip to Mombassa, Kenya, to give birth there. Within a week after that the grandmother suddenly died; the official explanation was that the grandmother was losing her mind due to old age.
    6) His records from the Occidental College in Los Angeles show that he had received scholarship as a foreign student from Indonesia. The same “Foreign Student” is read on his student card from the Columbia University.
    7) He was sent to Pakistan in 1981 by his Muslim stepfather to study 3 months in a Muslim madrassa there, traveling with his Indonesian passport.
    8) All his schooling records are sealed: Occidental College records, Columbia College records, Columbia thesis paper, Harvard College records; also his Selective Service registration (now shown to be a fake); medical records; Illinois State Senate schedule and records; his law practice client list; baptism record; his passports. ALL SEALED.
    9) Another nail in the “Hawaii-born” Obama, was found in the first edition of his autobiographical book “Dreams from my father”, where he proudly stated that he was born in Kenya. That sentence was purged from the following editions of the book. His father was a tribal communist, ending his life as an alcoholic in abject poverty after he had failed in his political aspirations. There is no doubt any longer. Except that we all wonder – a President of the United States should have been able to secure services of more professional forgers.
    10) And I would appreciate if our commies, sozis, eco-nazis, and other Democrats would not answer the above 9 points by their invective and nasty name-calling – but by point-by-point documented answers.

    • Kronae

      Please post more. You have my students and fellow faculty members roaring with laughter.
      Two of them just happen to be former classmates of President Obama. You terrific post has now made it to the Harvard Review.
      Very, very funny.

      • Esther

        You Kronae, idiot student of Saul Alinsky, Ayers, Obama, Rham Emanuel, SOS Clinton, who else … Kronae the vulture has once again arrived at the forum … What, no spoils of war yet for your student vultures to feed upon? Have to put in gear your community organizing, is noted by someone who have published in higher places than the Harvard Review, and which the latter is diminished greatly by any association with Barry Sotero (Who is that???) or whoever is like him… that's you Vulture Kronae.

        • Lurl

          Thank you for your lovely response to Kronae. I shall certainly forward it to him but at this time he has left to be with the rest of the minions at the WH. I am amazed that so learned a person such as yourself would post the statement…"is noted by someone who have published?
          When we think of Dr. Kronae it is of one who flies higher than a vulture but more as the soaring Eagle. Don't misunderstand we do love our vultures but not those found in the moron/mormon cult. There are so many and they smell bad. Must be due to their Magikal Underwear.
          I don't imagine we will find you at any of the inaugural balls so just send me your address and we will send you a memento of our great day that will be shared by the better part of the populace in America.
          Just remember this election is not about President Obama it is about Yo Mama!

          • Esther

            #7: Once again an Alinskyite Rules for Radicals' student of Ayers, Emmanuel, Clinton, Kronae of the Chicago-Machine League, for the benefit of the emperor who has no clothes, even a child can see. You remember the story/.

      • Socialist Troll

        Good bullshit, I love it! Us socialists love to call those pesky "Constitutionalists" names. Our Fuhrer, The Obama, is proud of you, keep up the lies! Now, bow down towards Washington and worship The Obama like all pseudo intellectuals do.

        • Lurl

          Thanks! So happy you can read and enjoy our comments.
          We, by the way, don't worship President Obama but then, he is right up there in our Pantheon along with the Green Man.
          Thanks again ever so.
          Enjoy your Shape-Shifter moron moromney. A man who would be president but never will!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.schafer.355 Jim Schafer

    My only advice at this time is simply to place this, the return of Christ, to make sure that you are scripturally prepared and ready for this event. My first point is to realize that until the church has been raptured from the earth the beginning of the end will not happen. but since we can not predict the return of Christ, and the removal of the Church, I strongly suggest that we all are ready for that day. the rapture of the church must occur before this period. this is due to the end of the gentile period and the return of the israel to their relation to Jehovah. Hebrews 4, 5, 6). Therefore we gentiles that are in a personal relationship have little to worry about—our main responsibility during this time is evangelism(1 thessalonians 4) Telling others about Christ and his blessings should be our(including my own), our point of focus. Until I can begin exercising my evangelistic "duties", I will never know the true blessings of His ministry—watching others accept Christ and seeing Him make a change in their lives. (see: Romans 3:23; 6:23; 5:8; 10: 9-17.)

  • Helen

    I will say this: "I did not vote for Obama in 2008 and will not vote for him this year." Did not trust him then and still DO NOT TRUST him now.

  • Stealth

    Thank GOD for a small organization that has GUTS!! I salute this congregation!!

  • steve

    Typical United Methodist liberal moron

  • Michaelmhi

    Obama is a lieing no good gay muslim who has built his thieve'n career off of other people's live's and money and his so-called arranged marriage and his fake kids are just a con to destroy our country, i insist the American people hold him and his cronies liable for the destruction they have done to our land up till now, we need to punish these crooks to the full extent of the law.

    • Lurl

      How long have you been an outright liar! Do you make these statements from overhearing your parents talk about you and themselves.
      Obviously you want to get out grand dads ole hanging tree so you could just string up a few blacks for you Halloween decor or just for your enjoyment.
      We have posted your comments on our faculty wall for purview by our grad students.
      Yours is amongst the funniest and sickest. You may get the award!

  • David S.

    Yawn. Wake me when the election is over. Obama is not the answer; neither is Roney – it's sad that only one of those two will (more than likely) win. Wish Ron Paul had a chance.

  • Bob Koomans

    About TIME churches started stating their POSITION on GOD: Either they are FOR God's principles and LAWS, or they are AGAINST God! (from a quote in Revelations) – And that extends to their "Works Of Faith", through preaching political awareness of murderous lying infidels trying to take power in Government, to rebuking immoral activities by people around them, and within their churches! – For them to be BRAVE for God, as He hates COWARDS! He and Jesus also hate HYPOCRITES teaching LIES or failing to teach all that Jesus wanted to be taught. (includes the 10 Commandments and the requirement to try and keep ALL of them, leaving none out, nor replacing any with false doctrines or man's traditions. To be prepared to "COME OUT of Babylon, and get back to God's WAYS, or be left behind when The Saviour comes again. You see, the CURSES of the 2nd Commandment apply to those who Disrespect and Disobey and Dishonour God by failing to do what God teaches, and keeping men's fables that are not in scripture. SO FAR, the USA has not suffered too much from past mistakes, BUT the worst is yet to COME, if the USA does not REPENT and turn back from making their own curses by refusing to follow God's ways.

    • Lurl

      Sounds as though you want a return to the ideals of the Pilgrims and their Puritan ethic.
      It works very well in taking away women rights. Not just abortion but the rights to her own personal property, her own house, the ability to work outside the house and keep her money.
      We could go on but you get the idea.
      Who is going to be your main finger pointer? Who is going to be the arbiter in your puritan religion for today. Men would love to be able to control females as they did in the old and odd days but that ain't going to happen. There is no rolling back this brave new world.

      • Rebecca Koomans

        Actually the Pilgrims were already MISLED by an old fable from 231 AD started by Constantine in Rome. The churches were always a problem with The Christ, as they refused to acknowledge God's Laws correctly, and made errors by interpreting laws for themselves, against the rules set down for mankind. Jesus came the first time to correct the applications of the Laws into by-laws that made life difficult for mankind, and He accused the Church Leaders of His Day, of being HYPOCRITES and changing to INTENT of God's Laws. For instance, LEVITICUS was the set of rules made by Hebrews, to deal with lawbreakers, which was like the Muslim SHARIAH laws. They exceeded the MAXIMS of the Law (Eye for eye, tooth for tooth) and the conditional requirement of ensuring COMPASSION first before the Laws. So, God saw women as being of equal human rights as men, yet doing their own thing necessary to also raise a family. As far as MURDER goes, the Law is absolutely CLEAR: No-one must murder another human, including a foetus. There are compensation laws that cover a foetus killed by another human. The LAWS you see, are for the benefit of mankind: If we break any one of them (especially the 4th. which is for showing RESPECT to The Creator, and showing OBEDIENCE to Him) – then we begin making our own curses. A curse herein, is one we make and grow by breaking one rule, then suffer the EFFECTS of that breach, and if not repented of, keeps on growing in more breaches. We live in the age of myriads of breaches, which causes wars, disease, infidelity to God and each other, sexual deviations (which also bring about strange diseases), etc. Man was supposed to work WITH females although in different ways. Controlling or abusing each other was considered sinful and aggressive. Men can never run their own lifew properly without respecting God and His Laws first (Gen-2 and Ex-20)… but that does not include Levitical laws of punishment. Jesus proved that, with the woman who got led astray and succumbed to infidelity against her husband without a divorce decree in place. She was to be executed by stoning, but Jesus stopped it, pointing out the executioners OWN faults first.

  • shavager

    BaROKE OWEbumbler, in his book "Audacity of Hope" said on page 261: "I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION." How much UGLIER can it get with nearly 3000 Americans MURDERED BY MUSLIMS ON 9/11?? How much UGLIER with 13 more Americans MURDERED BY A MUSLIM AT FORT HOOD or an American Ambassador RAPED, TORTURED, MURDERED with 3 co-workers BY MUSLIMS IN LIBYA?? Is OWEbumbler saying "God Bless America" TO OUR FACE AND "Allahu Akbar" BEHIND OUR BACKS?? Experts say the GOLD RING on his left hand has inscribed on it in Arabic "There is no God but Allah"–THERE IS YOUR ANSWER AMERICA!! He is a MUSLIM APOLOGIST, PROTECTOR AND APPEASER!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MSPMCGZ4YDJQUT5DBX42QN6KUI Margo

    It only took a person that many Americans trusted to unite the Racial inbalance in America and in 4 years has created the biggest Racial divide in America. Can you ever trust and another minority person again? Long Live the USA.

  • Saltporkdoc

    Nothing wrong with just stating the truth!

  • Bill

    If it walks like a duck & talks like a duck – duh!, it must be one.
    Thanks for speaking out the truth.

  • BohdanUke1

    Re: Posting Policy] Reasonable discourse? The train left the station a long time ago.

  • Bighoss

    Read THIS and decide whether you want someone in the Oval Office whose family has a documented history of appealing to God for vengeance upon the United States of America!

    The links below are to the video recording of a secret (until now) ceremony in a Mormon temple, covertly recorded and now available for us "Gentiles" to view. There are many Mormons who have not been through this temple ceremony (wherein the participants acquire status as "temple Mormons") and who have never seen what actually goes on there, but NOW THEY CAN, and so can you and I, owing to the infiltration of this silly ritual by outsiders who somehow engineered this coup.

    Many thanks to those who are showing the world just what kind of zany stuff goes on in these now-no-longer-secret rituals. I wager the current "Prophet" and the current "Twelve Apostles" are fit to be tied over the release of this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6udew9axmdM

    This link is about 7 1/2 minutes. A second link provides a video of the entire temple ceremony, with much more absurdity and lasts over an hour for those with patience enough to view the entire mess:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VrsFEiTpsQ&feature=plcp

    A very interesting aspect of this temple tomfoolery is the covenant and promise that the Mormon candidates for "temple endowment" are required to make, to wit "…to pray to Almighty God Elohim to avenge the blood of the prophets upon the United States, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the 3rd and 4th generations."

    That has to mean that Mitt's daddy, George, was committed to teaching this covenant of vengeance upon the U.S. to his children, including, of course, Mitt, and that if Big George was still living when Mitt's 5 kids were of teachable age, Big George was obliged by this covenant and promise to indoctrinate this duty of vengeance within these grandchildren also. According to the UTube video, this duty had been cut from the temple ceremony by the time Mitt became a "temple Mormon," so he is not obliged to teach this duty to his own kids, but he certainly would not have been expected to interfere with Big George's covenant, promise and sacred duty to pump up the grandkids with vengeful sentiments against the U.S. More significantly, Big George presumably fulfilled his temple commitment to instruct little Mitt himself of HIS duty to pray for "Elohim" to whup up on the U.S. for the alleged murder of the prophets.

    Now all THAT seems to me to be much more worrisome than the family history the wingnuts cite to support their claim that the President is a Muslim, namely that as a little boy in Indonesia, he actually attended Muslim-operated elementary school (and the only school available there) for a few years.

    Do we want a man in the Oval Office with a family history of vowing vengeance upon the United States??!!

    • Lurl

      VERY GOOD POST!
      We have a number of these tapes in the grad student library. They are always being checked out especially by those students who are deeply involved in Social Justice Studies.
      This is just one small part that make up the oddities in belief and function/practice that this group of cultist believes.
      Too bad the American people have not made themselves aware of the practices. We used to think that the old time bible thumpers with their odds rules of snake handling, dunking themselves in water in an ice cold river and so many other strange acts that are especially rife in the south. This cultist group along with the others such as Scientology and others of their ilk just can't be considered 'normal.'
      Oh well! There are just some who won't accept modern thinking and they want to really destroy this country and reform it into their own religious land.

    • millergroup2

      Notice the silence Bighoss. Nor a retort, or rebuttal. The Mormon remains silent at the face of truth. Not a peep! The last lie that they will swallow is the "White Horse Prophecy". The great white Mormon god comes to save America at the 11th hour. King Romney will preside.

  • Don

    For Christians we are told to follow Christ as He is presently governing the world. I am not saying not to stand for the values of the scripture and vote for the candidate who most reflects that but we are never to embroil ourselves in hate or misguided zeal. Christ is Lord now and eventually will come to establish His kingdom.

  • bigbadude

    I say he is aganist the USA get him out!